Multiple fuel pump failures
#141
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. It doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country
for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self,
with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's
surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/******* like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
******* like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, ***, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing *** names, as fake as you.
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
All you little schizophrenic psychopath 24wimp:
http://www.----------.com/temp/24wimpIndiana.jpg liars having as much fun as
I'm having forwarding your groups?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Dr.---------" <DN@CentralPain.org> wrote in message
news:9do7j3dfeugrefo5fugp8ueb7so2g2usa2@4ax.com...
>
> When you have something to post to Cooyon, I may answer.
> Untill then ---- YOU!
>
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. It doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country
for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self,
with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's
surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/******* like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
******* like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, ***, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing *** names, as fake as you.
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
All you little schizophrenic psychopath 24wimp:
http://www.----------.com/temp/24wimpIndiana.jpg liars having as much fun as
I'm having forwarding your groups?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Dr.---------" <DN@CentralPain.org> wrote in message
news:9do7j3dfeugrefo5fugp8ueb7so2g2usa2@4ax.com...
>
> When you have something to post to Cooyon, I may answer.
> Untill then ---- YOU!
>
#142
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. It doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country
for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self,
with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's
surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/******* like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
******* like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, ***, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing *** names, as fake as you.
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
All you little schizophrenic psychopath 24wimp:
http://www.----------.com/temp/24wimpIndiana.jpg liars having as much fun as
I'm having forwarding your groups?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Dr.---------" <DN@CentralPain.org> wrote in message
news:9do7j3dfeugrefo5fugp8ueb7so2g2usa2@4ax.com...
>
> When you have something to post to Cooyon, I may answer.
> Untill then ---- YOU!
>
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. It doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country
for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self,
with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's
surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/******* like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
******* like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, ***, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing *** names, as fake as you.
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
All you little schizophrenic psychopath 24wimp:
http://www.----------.com/temp/24wimpIndiana.jpg liars having as much fun as
I'm having forwarding your groups?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Dr.---------" <DN@CentralPain.org> wrote in message
news:9do7j3dfeugrefo5fugp8ueb7so2g2usa2@4ax.com...
>
> When you have something to post to Cooyon, I may answer.
> Untill then ---- YOU!
>
#143
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
Retiredff wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Retiredff wrote:
>>
>>> It failed again.
>> Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>>
>> The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
>> top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>>
>> If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> normally get it going again.
>>
>> A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>>
>> Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.
>
>
A YJ pump will work I believe. The inlet is just on the other side so
the rubber line needs to be a bit longer to swing around.
Mike
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Retiredff wrote:
>>
>>> It failed again.
>> Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>>
>> The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
>> top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>>
>> If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> normally get it going again.
>>
>> A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>>
>> Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.
>
>
A YJ pump will work I believe. The inlet is just on the other side so
the rubber line needs to be a bit longer to swing around.
Mike
#144
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
Retiredff wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Retiredff wrote:
>>
>>> It failed again.
>> Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>>
>> The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
>> top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>>
>> If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> normally get it going again.
>>
>> A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>>
>> Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.
>
>
A YJ pump will work I believe. The inlet is just on the other side so
the rubber line needs to be a bit longer to swing around.
Mike
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Retiredff wrote:
>>
>>> It failed again.
>> Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>>
>> The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
>> top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>>
>> If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> normally get it going again.
>>
>> A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>>
>> Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.
>
>
A YJ pump will work I believe. The inlet is just on the other side so
the rubber line needs to be a bit longer to swing around.
Mike
#145
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Posts: n/a
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
Retiredff wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Retiredff wrote:
>>
>>> It failed again.
>> Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>>
>> The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
>> top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>>
>> If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> normally get it going again.
>>
>> A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>>
>> Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.
>
>
A YJ pump will work I believe. The inlet is just on the other side so
the rubber line needs to be a bit longer to swing around.
Mike
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Retiredff wrote:
>>
>>> It failed again.
>> Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>>
>> The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
>> top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>>
>> If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> normally get it going again.
>>
>> A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>>
>> Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.
>
>
A YJ pump will work I believe. The inlet is just on the other side so
the rubber line needs to be a bit longer to swing around.
Mike
#146
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Posts: n/a
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Retiredff wrote:
>
> >> It failed again.
>
> > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>
> > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
> > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
> > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>
> > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> > normally get it going again.
>
> > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>
> > Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Retired,
Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
Jon
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Retiredff wrote:
>
> >> It failed again.
>
> > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>
> > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
> > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
> > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>
> > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> > normally get it going again.
>
> > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>
> > Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Retired,
Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
Jon
#147
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Retiredff wrote:
>
> >> It failed again.
>
> > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>
> > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
> > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
> > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>
> > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> > normally get it going again.
>
> > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>
> > Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Retired,
Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
Jon
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Retiredff wrote:
>
> >> It failed again.
>
> > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>
> > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
> > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
> > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>
> > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> > normally get it going again.
>
> > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>
> > Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Retired,
Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
Jon
#148
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Posts: n/a
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Retiredff wrote:
>
> >> It failed again.
>
> > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>
> > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
> > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
> > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>
> > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> > normally get it going again.
>
> > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>
> > Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Retired,
Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
Jon
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Retiredff wrote:
>
> >> It failed again.
>
> > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>
> > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
> > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
> > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>
> > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> > normally get it going again.
>
> > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>
> > Mike
>
> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>
> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
> makes sense to me.
>
> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>
> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>
> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
> the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Retired,
Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
Jon
#149
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Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
Jon wrote:
> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> Retiredff wrote:
>>>> It failed again.
>>> Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>>> The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>>> 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
>>> top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>>> If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>>> normally get it going again.
>>> A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>>> line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>>> let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>>> Mike
>> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
>> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
>> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
>> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
>> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>>
>> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
>> makes sense to me.
>>
>> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
>> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
>> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>>
>> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>>
>> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
>> the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Retired,
>
> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>
> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>
> Jon
>
Good point, the alcohol in modern 'gas' dissolves the older fuel lines.
The owners manual for the CJ7 258 plainly states do not use 'any'
unless you are out of gas and need 'just' enough to get to real gas.
The pump should bench test.
He has an 89? Jeep has pumps for those, just not for the CJ's.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08
> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> Retiredff wrote:
>>>> It failed again.
>>> Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>>> The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>>> 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
>>> top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>>> If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>>> normally get it going again.
>>> A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>>> line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>>> let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>>> Mike
>> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
>> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
>> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
>> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
>> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>>
>> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
>> makes sense to me.
>>
>> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
>> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
>> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>>
>> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>>
>> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
>> the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Retired,
>
> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>
> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>
> Jon
>
Good point, the alcohol in modern 'gas' dissolves the older fuel lines.
The owners manual for the CJ7 258 plainly states do not use 'any'
unless you are out of gas and need 'just' enough to get to real gas.
The pump should bench test.
He has an 89? Jeep has pumps for those, just not for the CJ's.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08
#150
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
Jon wrote:
> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> Retiredff wrote:
>>>> It failed again.
>>> Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>>> The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>>> 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
>>> top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>>> If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>>> normally get it going again.
>>> A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>>> line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>>> let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>>> Mike
>> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
>> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
>> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
>> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
>> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>>
>> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
>> makes sense to me.
>>
>> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
>> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
>> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>>
>> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>>
>> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
>> the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Retired,
>
> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>
> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>
> Jon
>
Good point, the alcohol in modern 'gas' dissolves the older fuel lines.
The owners manual for the CJ7 258 plainly states do not use 'any'
unless you are out of gas and need 'just' enough to get to real gas.
The pump should bench test.
He has an 89? Jeep has pumps for those, just not for the CJ's.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08
> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> Retiredff wrote:
>>>> It failed again.
>>> Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>>> The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>>> 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
>>> top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>>> If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>>> normally get it going again.
>>> A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>>> line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>>> let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>>> Mike
>> Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is off
>> by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
>> amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece of
>> info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in that it
>> continually reminds me to get it correct!
>>
>> Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner that
>> makes sense to me.
>>
>> Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me to
>> forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one. Provided,
>> of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>>
>> Any guesses on how rare those are?
>>
>> Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers in
>> the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Retired,
>
> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>
> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>
> Jon
>
Good point, the alcohol in modern 'gas' dissolves the older fuel lines.
The owners manual for the CJ7 258 plainly states do not use 'any'
unless you are out of gas and need 'just' enough to get to real gas.
The pump should bench test.
He has an 89? Jeep has pumps for those, just not for the CJ's.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08