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Much difference between 30's and 31's?
I regeared my TJ to 4.10 and dual True-Traks. I put 30's on the Jeep when I
first bought it, since I had 3.07 gearing and did not want to go any taller and could not afford to regear for a while. Now I'm debating whether it's worth it to buy some 31's; my 30's are BFG AT's which now have 12K miles on them, so they are far from worn out! OTOH, 31's would match the gear ratio better. I won't be doing any serious buildup on this Jeep for at least a couple years. It needs to stay family-friendly until I can afford to "retire" it to toy status, so lifting and putting 33's on there is not going to happen any time soon. Is there enough of a difference between 30's and 31's to justify new tires? WIll i notice the extra clearance and off-road capability? I'd probably go with BFG MT's. -jeff |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Hi Jeff,
Not in my book, 30" are still taller than what came with four cylinder and your gearing. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Handywired wrote: > > I regeared my TJ to 4.10 and dual True-Traks. I put 30's on the Jeep when I > first bought it, since I had 3.07 gearing and did not want to go any taller and > could not afford to regear for a while. Now I'm debating whether it's worth it > to buy some 31's; my 30's are BFG AT's which now have 12K miles on them, so > they are far from worn out! OTOH, 31's would match the gear ratio better. > > I won't be doing any serious buildup on this Jeep for at least a couple years. > It needs to stay family-friendly until I can afford to "retire" it to toy > status, so lifting and putting 33's on there is not going to happen any time > soon. > > Is there enough of a difference between 30's and 31's to justify new tires? > WIll i notice the extra clearance and off-road capability? I'd probably go > with BFG MT's. > > -jeff |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Hi Jeff,
Not in my book, 30" are still taller than what came with four cylinder and your gearing. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Handywired wrote: > > I regeared my TJ to 4.10 and dual True-Traks. I put 30's on the Jeep when I > first bought it, since I had 3.07 gearing and did not want to go any taller and > could not afford to regear for a while. Now I'm debating whether it's worth it > to buy some 31's; my 30's are BFG AT's which now have 12K miles on them, so > they are far from worn out! OTOH, 31's would match the gear ratio better. > > I won't be doing any serious buildup on this Jeep for at least a couple years. > It needs to stay family-friendly until I can afford to "retire" it to toy > status, so lifting and putting 33's on there is not going to happen any time > soon. > > Is there enough of a difference between 30's and 31's to justify new tires? > WIll i notice the extra clearance and off-road capability? I'd probably go > with BFG MT's. > > -jeff |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Hi Jeff,
Not in my book, 30" are still taller than what came with four cylinder and your gearing. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Handywired wrote: > > I regeared my TJ to 4.10 and dual True-Traks. I put 30's on the Jeep when I > first bought it, since I had 3.07 gearing and did not want to go any taller and > could not afford to regear for a while. Now I'm debating whether it's worth it > to buy some 31's; my 30's are BFG AT's which now have 12K miles on them, so > they are far from worn out! OTOH, 31's would match the gear ratio better. > > I won't be doing any serious buildup on this Jeep for at least a couple years. > It needs to stay family-friendly until I can afford to "retire" it to toy > status, so lifting and putting 33's on there is not going to happen any time > soon. > > Is there enough of a difference between 30's and 31's to justify new tires? > WIll i notice the extra clearance and off-road capability? I'd probably go > with BFG MT's. > > -jeff |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
With only 12K on your current BFG AT's, no way would I be looking to
move to 31's. You're only talking about an extra half inch of clearance (then again, having *no* dent in your oil pan is better than having a half an inch dent, if you know what I mean hehehe). Maybe if you could get a buyer lined up for your AT's at a decent price it would be worth the switch. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On 02 Mar 2004 08:46:54 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote: >I regeared my TJ to 4.10 and dual True-Traks. I put 30's on the Jeep when I >first bought it, since I had 3.07 gearing and did not want to go any taller and >could not afford to regear for a while. Now I'm debating whether it's worth it >to buy some 31's; my 30's are BFG AT's which now have 12K miles on them, so >they are far from worn out! OTOH, 31's would match the gear ratio better. > >I won't be doing any serious buildup on this Jeep for at least a couple years. >It needs to stay family-friendly until I can afford to "retire" it to toy >status, so lifting and putting 33's on there is not going to happen any time >soon. > >Is there enough of a difference between 30's and 31's to justify new tires? >WIll i notice the extra clearance and off-road capability? I'd probably go >with BFG MT's. > >-jeff |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
With only 12K on your current BFG AT's, no way would I be looking to
move to 31's. You're only talking about an extra half inch of clearance (then again, having *no* dent in your oil pan is better than having a half an inch dent, if you know what I mean hehehe). Maybe if you could get a buyer lined up for your AT's at a decent price it would be worth the switch. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On 02 Mar 2004 08:46:54 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote: >I regeared my TJ to 4.10 and dual True-Traks. I put 30's on the Jeep when I >first bought it, since I had 3.07 gearing and did not want to go any taller and >could not afford to regear for a while. Now I'm debating whether it's worth it >to buy some 31's; my 30's are BFG AT's which now have 12K miles on them, so >they are far from worn out! OTOH, 31's would match the gear ratio better. > >I won't be doing any serious buildup on this Jeep for at least a couple years. >It needs to stay family-friendly until I can afford to "retire" it to toy >status, so lifting and putting 33's on there is not going to happen any time >soon. > >Is there enough of a difference between 30's and 31's to justify new tires? >WIll i notice the extra clearance and off-road capability? I'd probably go >with BFG MT's. > >-jeff |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
With only 12K on your current BFG AT's, no way would I be looking to
move to 31's. You're only talking about an extra half inch of clearance (then again, having *no* dent in your oil pan is better than having a half an inch dent, if you know what I mean hehehe). Maybe if you could get a buyer lined up for your AT's at a decent price it would be worth the switch. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On 02 Mar 2004 08:46:54 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote: >I regeared my TJ to 4.10 and dual True-Traks. I put 30's on the Jeep when I >first bought it, since I had 3.07 gearing and did not want to go any taller and >could not afford to regear for a while. Now I'm debating whether it's worth it >to buy some 31's; my 30's are BFG AT's which now have 12K miles on them, so >they are far from worn out! OTOH, 31's would match the gear ratio better. > >I won't be doing any serious buildup on this Jeep for at least a couple years. >It needs to stay family-friendly until I can afford to "retire" it to toy >status, so lifting and putting 33's on there is not going to happen any time >soon. > >Is there enough of a difference between 30's and 31's to justify new tires? >WIll i notice the extra clearance and off-road capability? I'd probably go >with BFG MT's. > >-jeff |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Jeff - are you anywhere near NJ? Where are you?
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040302034654.02859.00000662@mb-m15.aol.com... > I regeared my TJ to 4.10 and dual True-Traks. I put 30's on the Jeep when I > first bought it, since I had 3.07 gearing and did not want to go any taller and > could not afford to regear for a while. Now I'm debating whether it's worth it > to buy some 31's; my 30's are BFG AT's which now have 12K miles on them, so > they are far from worn out! OTOH, 31's would match the gear ratio better. > > I won't be doing any serious buildup on this Jeep for at least a couple years. > It needs to stay family-friendly until I can afford to "retire" it to toy > status, so lifting and putting 33's on there is not going to happen any time > soon. > > Is there enough of a difference between 30's and 31's to justify new tires? > WIll i notice the extra clearance and off-road capability? I'd probably go > with BFG MT's. > > -jeff |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Jeff - are you anywhere near NJ? Where are you?
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040302034654.02859.00000662@mb-m15.aol.com... > I regeared my TJ to 4.10 and dual True-Traks. I put 30's on the Jeep when I > first bought it, since I had 3.07 gearing and did not want to go any taller and > could not afford to regear for a while. Now I'm debating whether it's worth it > to buy some 31's; my 30's are BFG AT's which now have 12K miles on them, so > they are far from worn out! OTOH, 31's would match the gear ratio better. > > I won't be doing any serious buildup on this Jeep for at least a couple years. > It needs to stay family-friendly until I can afford to "retire" it to toy > status, so lifting and putting 33's on there is not going to happen any time > soon. > > Is there enough of a difference between 30's and 31's to justify new tires? > WIll i notice the extra clearance and off-road capability? I'd probably go > with BFG MT's. > > -jeff |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Jeff - are you anywhere near NJ? Where are you?
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040302034654.02859.00000662@mb-m15.aol.com... > I regeared my TJ to 4.10 and dual True-Traks. I put 30's on the Jeep when I > first bought it, since I had 3.07 gearing and did not want to go any taller and > could not afford to regear for a while. Now I'm debating whether it's worth it > to buy some 31's; my 30's are BFG AT's which now have 12K miles on them, so > they are far from worn out! OTOH, 31's would match the gear ratio better. > > I won't be doing any serious buildup on this Jeep for at least a couple years. > It needs to stay family-friendly until I can afford to "retire" it to toy > status, so lifting and putting 33's on there is not going to happen any time > soon. > > Is there enough of a difference between 30's and 31's to justify new tires? > WIll i notice the extra clearance and off-road capability? I'd probably go > with BFG MT's. > > -jeff |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <40444C13.65A28DFA@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Jeff, > Not in my book, 30" are still taller than what came with four > cylinder and your gearing. Bill, his Jeep came with 3.07 gearing so it can't be a 4 cylinder. He regeared it to 4.1 according to his post. I think the 31s will be a better match for his gearing, although 32s would probably be even better. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <40444C13.65A28DFA@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Jeff, > Not in my book, 30" are still taller than what came with four > cylinder and your gearing. Bill, his Jeep came with 3.07 gearing so it can't be a 4 cylinder. He regeared it to 4.1 according to his post. I think the 31s will be a better match for his gearing, although 32s would probably be even better. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <40444C13.65A28DFA@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Jeff, > Not in my book, 30" are still taller than what came with four > cylinder and your gearing. Bill, his Jeep came with 3.07 gearing so it can't be a 4 cylinder. He regeared it to 4.1 according to his post. I think the 31s will be a better match for his gearing, although 32s would probably be even better. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <g2m8405fdc7f4khjmghcdvtkah40sb2q31@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote:
> With only 12K on your current BFG AT's, no way would I be looking to > move to 31's. You're only talking about an extra half inch of > clearance (then again, having *no* dent in your oil pan is better than > having a half an inch dent, if you know what I mean hehehe). Maybe if > you could get a buyer lined up for your AT's at a decent price it > would be worth the switch. It isn't quite that simple because of the differences between nominal and actual sizes of tires. A lot of 30s are really only 29 or 29.5 inches tall, whereas most 31s are just about right on 31 inches. And while that might not make a very big difference in clearance, it will have a bigger impact on his RPM at cruising speeds. With his 4.10 gearing a 31" tire would probably be a better choice, although I would personally want to go for 32s, since that gives the same overall ratio with 4.10 that I have with 30 inch tires and 3.73 gearing, which is a good all around combination. Whether or not it is worth switching is something that nobody here can answer for him. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <g2m8405fdc7f4khjmghcdvtkah40sb2q31@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote:
> With only 12K on your current BFG AT's, no way would I be looking to > move to 31's. You're only talking about an extra half inch of > clearance (then again, having *no* dent in your oil pan is better than > having a half an inch dent, if you know what I mean hehehe). Maybe if > you could get a buyer lined up for your AT's at a decent price it > would be worth the switch. It isn't quite that simple because of the differences between nominal and actual sizes of tires. A lot of 30s are really only 29 or 29.5 inches tall, whereas most 31s are just about right on 31 inches. And while that might not make a very big difference in clearance, it will have a bigger impact on his RPM at cruising speeds. With his 4.10 gearing a 31" tire would probably be a better choice, although I would personally want to go for 32s, since that gives the same overall ratio with 4.10 that I have with 30 inch tires and 3.73 gearing, which is a good all around combination. Whether or not it is worth switching is something that nobody here can answer for him. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <g2m8405fdc7f4khjmghcdvtkah40sb2q31@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote:
> With only 12K on your current BFG AT's, no way would I be looking to > move to 31's. You're only talking about an extra half inch of > clearance (then again, having *no* dent in your oil pan is better than > having a half an inch dent, if you know what I mean hehehe). Maybe if > you could get a buyer lined up for your AT's at a decent price it > would be worth the switch. It isn't quite that simple because of the differences between nominal and actual sizes of tires. A lot of 30s are really only 29 or 29.5 inches tall, whereas most 31s are just about right on 31 inches. And while that might not make a very big difference in clearance, it will have a bigger impact on his RPM at cruising speeds. With his 4.10 gearing a 31" tire would probably be a better choice, although I would personally want to go for 32s, since that gives the same overall ratio with 4.10 that I have with 30 inch tires and 3.73 gearing, which is a good all around combination. Whether or not it is worth switching is something that nobody here can answer for him. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Yup, that's Jeff told us. And what do all four cylinders come with?
You want Jeff to throw away his 30" BFG tires after only having a quarter use of them? God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Del Rawlins wrote: > > Bill, his Jeep came with 3.07 gearing so it can't be a 4 cylinder. He > regeared it to 4.1 according to his post. I think the 31s will be a > better match for his gearing, although 32s would probably be even better. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Yup, that's Jeff told us. And what do all four cylinders come with?
You want Jeff to throw away his 30" BFG tires after only having a quarter use of them? God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Del Rawlins wrote: > > Bill, his Jeep came with 3.07 gearing so it can't be a 4 cylinder. He > regeared it to 4.1 according to his post. I think the 31s will be a > better match for his gearing, although 32s would probably be even better. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Yup, that's Jeff told us. And what do all four cylinders come with?
You want Jeff to throw away his 30" BFG tires after only having a quarter use of them? God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Del Rawlins wrote: > > Bill, his Jeep came with 3.07 gearing so it can't be a 4 cylinder. He > regeared it to 4.1 according to his post. I think the 31s will be a > better match for his gearing, although 32s would probably be even better. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
I think you're thinking of what Daimler would sells as the 30"
group, Jeff replaced them with new 30" BFGs. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Del Rawlins wrote: > > It isn't quite that simple because of the differences between nominal > and actual sizes of tires. A lot of 30s are really only 29 or 29.5 > inches tall, whereas most 31s are just about right on 31 inches. And > while that might not make a very big difference in clearance, it will > have a bigger impact on his RPM at cruising speeds. With his 4.10 > gearing a 31" tire would probably be a better choice, although I would > personally want to go for 32s, since that gives the same overall ratio > with 4.10 that I have with 30 inch tires and 3.73 gearing, which is a > good all around combination. > > Whether or not it is worth switching is something that nobody here can > answer for him. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
I think you're thinking of what Daimler would sells as the 30"
group, Jeff replaced them with new 30" BFGs. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Del Rawlins wrote: > > It isn't quite that simple because of the differences between nominal > and actual sizes of tires. A lot of 30s are really only 29 or 29.5 > inches tall, whereas most 31s are just about right on 31 inches. And > while that might not make a very big difference in clearance, it will > have a bigger impact on his RPM at cruising speeds. With his 4.10 > gearing a 31" tire would probably be a better choice, although I would > personally want to go for 32s, since that gives the same overall ratio > with 4.10 that I have with 30 inch tires and 3.73 gearing, which is a > good all around combination. > > Whether or not it is worth switching is something that nobody here can > answer for him. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
I think you're thinking of what Daimler would sells as the 30"
group, Jeff replaced them with new 30" BFGs. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Del Rawlins wrote: > > It isn't quite that simple because of the differences between nominal > and actual sizes of tires. A lot of 30s are really only 29 or 29.5 > inches tall, whereas most 31s are just about right on 31 inches. And > while that might not make a very big difference in clearance, it will > have a bigger impact on his RPM at cruising speeds. With his 4.10 > gearing a 31" tire would probably be a better choice, although I would > personally want to go for 32s, since that gives the same overall ratio > with 4.10 that I have with 30 inch tires and 3.73 gearing, which is a > good all around combination. > > Whether or not it is worth switching is something that nobody here can > answer for him. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Moving from 30" to 31" is only a 3% change, or about 100 RPM at 65
MPH....not worth doing in my opinion. Walt Johnson 99 TJ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Moving from 30" to 31" is only a 3% change, or about 100 RPM at 65
MPH....not worth doing in my opinion. Walt Johnson 99 TJ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Moving from 30" to 31" is only a 3% change, or about 100 RPM at 65
MPH....not worth doing in my opinion. Walt Johnson 99 TJ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
On 2 Mar 2004 20:31:06 GMT, Del Rawlins
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote: >In <g2m8405fdc7f4khjmghcdvtkah40sb2q31@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote: >> With only 12K on your current BFG AT's, no way would I be looking to >> move to 31's. You're only talking about an extra half inch of >> clearance (then again, having *no* dent in your oil pan is better than >> having a half an inch dent, if you know what I mean hehehe). Maybe if >> you could get a buyer lined up for your AT's at a decent price it >> would be worth the switch. > >It isn't quite that simple because of the differences between nominal >and actual sizes of tires. A lot of 30s are really only 29 or 29.5 >inches tall, whereas most 31s are just about right on 31 inches. And >while that might not make a very big difference in clearance, it will >have a bigger impact on his RPM at cruising speeds. With his 4.10 >gearing a 31" tire would probably be a better choice, although I would >personally want to go for 32s, since that gives the same overall ratio >with 4.10 that I have with 30 inch tires and 3.73 gearing, which is a >good all around combination. > >Whether or not it is worth switching is something that nobody here can >answer for him. > >---------------------------------------------------- >Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org >Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. >Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: >http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ True Del, but as I recall, he was talking about switching from BFG AT 30's to BFG MT 31's. That's going to make the manufacturer variances in sizes pretty much a wash IMO. Dave |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
On 2 Mar 2004 20:31:06 GMT, Del Rawlins
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote: >In <g2m8405fdc7f4khjmghcdvtkah40sb2q31@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote: >> With only 12K on your current BFG AT's, no way would I be looking to >> move to 31's. You're only talking about an extra half inch of >> clearance (then again, having *no* dent in your oil pan is better than >> having a half an inch dent, if you know what I mean hehehe). Maybe if >> you could get a buyer lined up for your AT's at a decent price it >> would be worth the switch. > >It isn't quite that simple because of the differences between nominal >and actual sizes of tires. A lot of 30s are really only 29 or 29.5 >inches tall, whereas most 31s are just about right on 31 inches. And >while that might not make a very big difference in clearance, it will >have a bigger impact on his RPM at cruising speeds. With his 4.10 >gearing a 31" tire would probably be a better choice, although I would >personally want to go for 32s, since that gives the same overall ratio >with 4.10 that I have with 30 inch tires and 3.73 gearing, which is a >good all around combination. > >Whether or not it is worth switching is something that nobody here can >answer for him. > >---------------------------------------------------- >Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org >Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. >Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: >http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ True Del, but as I recall, he was talking about switching from BFG AT 30's to BFG MT 31's. That's going to make the manufacturer variances in sizes pretty much a wash IMO. Dave |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
On 2 Mar 2004 20:31:06 GMT, Del Rawlins
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote: >In <g2m8405fdc7f4khjmghcdvtkah40sb2q31@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote: >> With only 12K on your current BFG AT's, no way would I be looking to >> move to 31's. You're only talking about an extra half inch of >> clearance (then again, having *no* dent in your oil pan is better than >> having a half an inch dent, if you know what I mean hehehe). Maybe if >> you could get a buyer lined up for your AT's at a decent price it >> would be worth the switch. > >It isn't quite that simple because of the differences between nominal >and actual sizes of tires. A lot of 30s are really only 29 or 29.5 >inches tall, whereas most 31s are just about right on 31 inches. And >while that might not make a very big difference in clearance, it will >have a bigger impact on his RPM at cruising speeds. With his 4.10 >gearing a 31" tire would probably be a better choice, although I would >personally want to go for 32s, since that gives the same overall ratio >with 4.10 that I have with 30 inch tires and 3.73 gearing, which is a >good all around combination. > >Whether or not it is worth switching is something that nobody here can >answer for him. > >---------------------------------------------------- >Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org >Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. >Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: >http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ True Del, but as I recall, he was talking about switching from BFG AT 30's to BFG MT 31's. That's going to make the manufacturer variances in sizes pretty much a wash IMO. Dave |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <4045049E.81D244C9@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Yup, that's Jeff told us. And what do all four cylinders come > with? You want Jeff to throw away his 30" BFG tires after only > having a quarter use of them? I just misundertood that part of your post, thinking that you believed his Jeep to be a 2.5L. Actually I don't really care what he does with his 30 inchers, I was just saying that 31" would be a step in the right direction for his engine and gearing. My real opinion is that if he had bought a Jeep with 3.73s to begin with he would have been a lot happier waiting until it is convenient for him to lift the Jeep and install the tires he really wants. He got to where he is now by half measures ( first with the 30s, then the regear) and another half measure will still be sub optimal, but he'd at least be happier with the 31s than he is with the 30s. Whether that is enough to justify the expense is a question for the man in the mirror. It is questions like this that make me glad I custom ordered my Jeep the way I wanted it, or at least as close as Daimler would build for me. With 3.73 gears, 30" tires, a truetrac in front and a trashlock/d35c(rap) in the rear, it is a reasonably well balanced rig that I am happy driving on and off road. At some point I'd like to upgrade to 32" tires, regear to 4.10, install an electrac equipped D44 and a 2-3" lift but doing any one of those mods without the others would turn the Jeep into something I wouldn't be happy with. So I will wait until I can do them all at once. All that because I want ABS, which Daimler won't give you with the D44, although the aftermarket will at 4 times the price (plus shipping to Alaska). ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <4045049E.81D244C9@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Yup, that's Jeff told us. And what do all four cylinders come > with? You want Jeff to throw away his 30" BFG tires after only > having a quarter use of them? I just misundertood that part of your post, thinking that you believed his Jeep to be a 2.5L. Actually I don't really care what he does with his 30 inchers, I was just saying that 31" would be a step in the right direction for his engine and gearing. My real opinion is that if he had bought a Jeep with 3.73s to begin with he would have been a lot happier waiting until it is convenient for him to lift the Jeep and install the tires he really wants. He got to where he is now by half measures ( first with the 30s, then the regear) and another half measure will still be sub optimal, but he'd at least be happier with the 31s than he is with the 30s. Whether that is enough to justify the expense is a question for the man in the mirror. It is questions like this that make me glad I custom ordered my Jeep the way I wanted it, or at least as close as Daimler would build for me. With 3.73 gears, 30" tires, a truetrac in front and a trashlock/d35c(rap) in the rear, it is a reasonably well balanced rig that I am happy driving on and off road. At some point I'd like to upgrade to 32" tires, regear to 4.10, install an electrac equipped D44 and a 2-3" lift but doing any one of those mods without the others would turn the Jeep into something I wouldn't be happy with. So I will wait until I can do them all at once. All that because I want ABS, which Daimler won't give you with the D44, although the aftermarket will at 4 times the price (plus shipping to Alaska). ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <4045049E.81D244C9@cox.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Yup, that's Jeff told us. And what do all four cylinders come > with? You want Jeff to throw away his 30" BFG tires after only > having a quarter use of them? I just misundertood that part of your post, thinking that you believed his Jeep to be a 2.5L. Actually I don't really care what he does with his 30 inchers, I was just saying that 31" would be a step in the right direction for his engine and gearing. My real opinion is that if he had bought a Jeep with 3.73s to begin with he would have been a lot happier waiting until it is convenient for him to lift the Jeep and install the tires he really wants. He got to where he is now by half measures ( first with the 30s, then the regear) and another half measure will still be sub optimal, but he'd at least be happier with the 31s than he is with the 30s. Whether that is enough to justify the expense is a question for the man in the mirror. It is questions like this that make me glad I custom ordered my Jeep the way I wanted it, or at least as close as Daimler would build for me. With 3.73 gears, 30" tires, a truetrac in front and a trashlock/d35c(rap) in the rear, it is a reasonably well balanced rig that I am happy driving on and off road. At some point I'd like to upgrade to 32" tires, regear to 4.10, install an electrac equipped D44 and a 2-3" lift but doing any one of those mods without the others would turn the Jeep into something I wouldn't be happy with. So I will wait until I can do them all at once. All that because I want ABS, which Daimler won't give you with the D44, although the aftermarket will at 4 times the price (plus shipping to Alaska). ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <glia405r6melrmafd7vg19dmg6eug29jqf@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote:
> True Del, but as I recall, he was talking about switching from BFG AT > 30's to BFG MT 31's. That's going to make the manufacturer variances > in sizes pretty much a wash IMO. You can see that kind of thing even with the same manufacturer. Goodyear's 30s are only 29.5" tall, while their 31s are really 31s. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <glia405r6melrmafd7vg19dmg6eug29jqf@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote:
> True Del, but as I recall, he was talking about switching from BFG AT > 30's to BFG MT 31's. That's going to make the manufacturer variances > in sizes pretty much a wash IMO. You can see that kind of thing even with the same manufacturer. Goodyear's 30s are only 29.5" tall, while their 31s are really 31s. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
In <glia405r6melrmafd7vg19dmg6eug29jqf@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote:
> True Del, but as I recall, he was talking about switching from BFG AT > 30's to BFG MT 31's. That's going to make the manufacturer variances > in sizes pretty much a wash IMO. You can see that kind of thing even with the same manufacturer. Goodyear's 30s are only 29.5" tall, while their 31s are really 31s. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Hi Del,
And in the old days the same size tire could be anything. These nylon bias 11.50X15 Armstrong TruTracs ( no longer made) could be 30" new to 33" on a hot day as pictured: http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Del Rawlins wrote: > > You can see that kind of thing even with the same manufacturer. > Goodyear's 30s are only 29.5" tall, while their 31s are really 31s. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Hi Del,
And in the old days the same size tire could be anything. These nylon bias 11.50X15 Armstrong TruTracs ( no longer made) could be 30" new to 33" on a hot day as pictured: http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Del Rawlins wrote: > > You can see that kind of thing even with the same manufacturer. > Goodyear's 30s are only 29.5" tall, while their 31s are really 31s. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
Hi Del,
And in the old days the same size tire could be anything. These nylon bias 11.50X15 Armstrong TruTracs ( no longer made) could be 30" new to 33" on a hot day as pictured: http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Del Rawlins wrote: > > You can see that kind of thing even with the same manufacturer. > Goodyear's 30s are only 29.5" tall, while their 31s are really 31s. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
On 3 Mar 2004 05:51:26 GMT, Del Rawlins
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote: >In <glia405r6melrmafd7vg19dmg6eug29jqf@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote: > >> True Del, but as I recall, he was talking about switching from BFG AT >> 30's to BFG MT 31's. That's going to make the manufacturer variances >> in sizes pretty much a wash IMO. > >You can see that kind of thing even with the same manufacturer. >Goodyear's 30s are only 29.5" tall, while their 31s are really 31s. > >---------------------------------------------------- >Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org >Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. >Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: >http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ Just checked Goodyears site for specs on their MT tires: 31X10.50R15LT is 30.7 30X9.50R15LT is 29.7 But I do understand what you're driving at, and it's true sometimes. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
On 3 Mar 2004 05:51:26 GMT, Del Rawlins
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote: >In <glia405r6melrmafd7vg19dmg6eug29jqf@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote: > >> True Del, but as I recall, he was talking about switching from BFG AT >> 30's to BFG MT 31's. That's going to make the manufacturer variances >> in sizes pretty much a wash IMO. > >You can see that kind of thing even with the same manufacturer. >Goodyear's 30s are only 29.5" tall, while their 31s are really 31s. > >---------------------------------------------------- >Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org >Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. >Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: >http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ Just checked Goodyears site for specs on their MT tires: 31X10.50R15LT is 30.7 30X9.50R15LT is 29.7 But I do understand what you're driving at, and it's true sometimes. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm |
Re: Much difference between 30's and 31's?
On 3 Mar 2004 05:51:26 GMT, Del Rawlins
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote: >In <glia405r6melrmafd7vg19dmg6eug29jqf@4ax.com> David C. Moller wrote: > >> True Del, but as I recall, he was talking about switching from BFG AT >> 30's to BFG MT 31's. That's going to make the manufacturer variances >> in sizes pretty much a wash IMO. > >You can see that kind of thing even with the same manufacturer. >Goodyear's 30s are only 29.5" tall, while their 31s are really 31s. > >---------------------------------------------------- >Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org >Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. >Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: >http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ Just checked Goodyears site for specs on their MT tires: 31X10.50R15LT is 30.7 30X9.50R15LT is 29.7 But I do understand what you're driving at, and it's true sometimes. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm |
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