motor swap
01-04-2006, 07:37 PM
#11
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Re: motor swap
Thanks for the input. Will the rears still be used. If I use the 6cyl motor
and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
to keep the 411's
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> and driveshafts and away you go.
>
> If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
>
> You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Big Don wrote:
> >
> > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
5spd
> > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
same
> > year. what all would I need ?.
and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
to keep the 411's
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> and driveshafts and away you go.
>
> If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
>
> You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Big Don wrote:
> >
> > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
5spd
> > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
same
> > year. what all would I need ?.
01-04-2006, 07:37 PM
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: motor swap
Thanks for the input. Will the rears still be used. If I use the 6cyl motor
and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
to keep the 411's
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> and driveshafts and away you go.
>
> If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
>
> You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Big Don wrote:
> >
> > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
5spd
> > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
same
> > year. what all would I need ?.
and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
to keep the 411's
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> and driveshafts and away you go.
>
> If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
>
> You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Big Don wrote:
> >
> > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
5spd
> > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
same
> > year. what all would I need ?.
01-04-2006, 07:37 PM
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: motor swap
Thanks for the input. Will the rears still be used. If I use the 6cyl motor
and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
to keep the 411's
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> and driveshafts and away you go.
>
> If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
>
> You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Big Don wrote:
> >
> > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
5spd
> > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
same
> > year. what all would I need ?.
and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
to keep the 411's
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> and driveshafts and away you go.
>
> If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
>
> You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Big Don wrote:
> >
> > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
5spd
> > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
same
> > year. what all would I need ?.
01-04-2006, 07:49 PM
#14
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Posts: n/a
Re: motor swap
Yes, you can get shims at most suspension shops to adjust the pinion
angle if needed.
Mike
Big Don wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input. Will the rears still be used. If I use the 6cyl motor
> and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
> to keep the 411's
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> > The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> > good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> > and driveshafts and away you go.
> >
> > If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> > carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> > module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> > emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> > lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> > times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
> >
> > You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> > you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> > you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> > big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Big Don wrote:
> > >
> > > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
> 5spd
> > > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
> same
> > > year. what all would I need ?.
angle if needed.
Mike
Big Don wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input. Will the rears still be used. If I use the 6cyl motor
> and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
> to keep the 411's
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> > The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> > good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> > and driveshafts and away you go.
> >
> > If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> > carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> > module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> > emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> > lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> > times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
> >
> > You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> > you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> > you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> > big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Big Don wrote:
> > >
> > > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
> 5spd
> > > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
> same
> > > year. what all would I need ?.
01-04-2006, 07:49 PM
#15
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Posts: n/a
Re: motor swap
Yes, you can get shims at most suspension shops to adjust the pinion
angle if needed.
Mike
Big Don wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input. Will the rears still be used. If I use the 6cyl motor
> and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
> to keep the 411's
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> > The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> > good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> > and driveshafts and away you go.
> >
> > If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> > carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> > module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> > emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> > lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> > times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
> >
> > You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> > you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> > you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> > big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Big Don wrote:
> > >
> > > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
> 5spd
> > > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
> same
> > > year. what all would I need ?.
angle if needed.
Mike
Big Don wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input. Will the rears still be used. If I use the 6cyl motor
> and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
> to keep the 411's
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> > The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> > good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> > and driveshafts and away you go.
> >
> > If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> > carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> > module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> > emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> > lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> > times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
> >
> > You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> > you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> > you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> > big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Big Don wrote:
> > >
> > > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
> 5spd
> > > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
> same
> > > year. what all would I need ?.
01-04-2006, 07:49 PM
#16
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Posts: n/a
Re: motor swap
Yes, you can get shims at most suspension shops to adjust the pinion
angle if needed.
Mike
Big Don wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input. Will the rears still be used. If I use the 6cyl motor
> and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
> to keep the 411's
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> > The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> > good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> > and driveshafts and away you go.
> >
> > If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> > carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> > module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> > emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> > lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> > times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
> >
> > You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> > you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> > you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> > big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Big Don wrote:
> > >
> > > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
> 5spd
> > > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
> same
> > > year. what all would I need ?.
angle if needed.
Mike
Big Don wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input. Will the rears still be used. If I use the 6cyl motor
> and trans and shafts? I read that the pinion angle must be changed. i want
> to keep the 411's
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43BC4DF1.D428B518@sympatico.ca...
> > The easiest way would be to find a rust bucket or a roll over with a
> > good drivetrain. That way you can take the 6 with the tranny and t-case
> > and driveshafts and away you go.
> >
> > If you stick with the 90 or older options, you are talking the 4.2 L
> > carb engine. It can be put in with no electronics besides the ignition
> > module. The only computer they used was a poor excuse of a Ford
> > emissions computer. It can be bypassed with a boost in power and a
> > lowering in emissions at the tailpipe. This has been proven many
> > times. Tune a 258 right and it is a really clean burning engine.
> >
> > You have to watch out for some areas of the planet like California where
> > you have to use a stock powerplant with all the stock emissions. If so,
> > you need a working emissions computer to go with the engine. No real
> > big deal, just 25% less power and gas mileage for your smog controls...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Big Don wrote:
> > >
> > > i'm looking to buy a 90 wrangler with a blown motor. It has the 4cyl,
> 5spd
> > > trans in it. what is involved to install a 6cyl and trans of around the
> same
> > > year. what all would I need ?.
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