More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
06-02-2004, 09:13 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....
REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?
Shame on you.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....
REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?
Shame on you.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
06-02-2004, 09:13 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....
REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?
Shame on you.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....
REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?
Shame on you.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
06-02-2004, 09:13 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....
REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?
Shame on you.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....
REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?
Shame on you.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
06-02-2004, 09:24 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
https://www.wviz.org/features/0519saf_future_car.asp
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
06-02-2004, 09:24 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
https://www.wviz.org/features/0519saf_future_car.asp
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
06-02-2004, 09:24 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
https://www.wviz.org/features/0519saf_future_car.asp
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
06-02-2004, 09:24 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
https://www.wviz.org/features/0519saf_future_car.asp
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
06-03-2004, 12:44 AM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:07:35 UTC "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).
I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
after the other!
--
Will Honea
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).
I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
after the other!
--
Will Honea
06-03-2004, 12:44 AM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:07:35 UTC "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).
I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
after the other!
--
Will Honea
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).
I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
after the other!
--
Will Honea
06-03-2004, 12:44 AM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:07:35 UTC "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).
I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
after the other!
--
Will Honea
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).
I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
after the other!
--
Will Honea
