More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
06-02-2004, 07:07 PM
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More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
digress....
VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
pistons, etc., etc.
Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
Now, get ready for the fix....
VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
him and his contraption to the infernal regions!
(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
digress....
VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
pistons, etc., etc.
Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
Now, get ready for the fix....
VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
him and his contraption to the infernal regions!
06-02-2004, 07:40 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)
http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
:)
--
DougW
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)
http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
:)
--
DougW
06-02-2004, 07:40 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)
http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
:)
--
DougW
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)
http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
:)
--
DougW
06-02-2004, 07:40 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)
http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
:)
--
DougW
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)
http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
:)
--
DougW
06-02-2004, 07:40 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)
http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
:)
--
DougW
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)
http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
:)
--
DougW
06-02-2004, 09:12 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!
06-02-2004, 09:12 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!
06-02-2004, 09:12 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!
06-02-2004, 09:12 PM
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Posts: n/a
Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!
06-02-2004, 09:13 PM
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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....
REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?
Shame on you.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....
REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?
Shame on you.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
