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I have really started to get interested in this beast of a vehicle and
the numberous vacuum lines etc and with this I'm starting to notice a lot of potential problems. 1.) My vehicle stinks like gas when in the garage and I know there are no leaks so I can assume that the evap canister is plugged? Or is it possible it is not purging and is just sitting there full of gas? If it isn't purging could it be a faulty CTO valve? 2.) Looking at a diagram of vac / vapour line routing for a YJ I see that the PCV valve should be tee'd over to the evap cannister. On my routing I can follow the PCV vent line (located at front end of valve cover) directly to the carb (No tee to evap cannister) 3.) I also have a broken nipple on the TVS valve so I imagine this is one of the reasons why the EGR valve is not moving. Could I bypass the TVS valve and have the EGR function all the time? I went to 3 places 2 of them didn't know what the TVS valve was and Canuck Tire said the part was discontinued. Thanks |
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Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip most
of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message news:ekvktvovovc8o9o36bln4012nl3unu59tl@4ax.com... > I have really started to get interested in this beast of a vehicle and > the numberous vacuum lines etc and with this I'm starting to notice a > lot of potential problems. > > 1.) My vehicle stinks like gas when in the garage and I know there are > no leaks so I can assume that the evap canister is plugged? Or is it > possible it is not purging and is just sitting there full of gas? > If it isn't purging could it be a faulty CTO valve? > > 2.) Looking at a diagram of vac / vapour line routing for a YJ I see > that the PCV valve should be tee'd over to the evap cannister. On my > routing I can follow the PCV vent line (located at front end of valve > cover) directly to the carb (No tee to evap cannister) > > 3.) I also have a broken nipple on the TVS valve so I imagine this is > one of the reasons why the EGR valve is not moving. Could I bypass the > TVS valve and have the EGR function all the time? I went to 3 places 2 > of them didn't know what the TVS valve was and Canuck Tire said the > part was discontinued. > > Thanks |
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Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip most
of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message news:ekvktvovovc8o9o36bln4012nl3unu59tl@4ax.com... > I have really started to get interested in this beast of a vehicle and > the numberous vacuum lines etc and with this I'm starting to notice a > lot of potential problems. > > 1.) My vehicle stinks like gas when in the garage and I know there are > no leaks so I can assume that the evap canister is plugged? Or is it > possible it is not purging and is just sitting there full of gas? > If it isn't purging could it be a faulty CTO valve? > > 2.) Looking at a diagram of vac / vapour line routing for a YJ I see > that the PCV valve should be tee'd over to the evap cannister. On my > routing I can follow the PCV vent line (located at front end of valve > cover) directly to the carb (No tee to evap cannister) > > 3.) I also have a broken nipple on the TVS valve so I imagine this is > one of the reasons why the EGR valve is not moving. Could I bypass the > TVS valve and have the EGR function all the time? I went to 3 places 2 > of them didn't know what the TVS valve was and Canuck Tire said the > part was discontinued. > > Thanks |
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Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip most
of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message news:ekvktvovovc8o9o36bln4012nl3unu59tl@4ax.com... > I have really started to get interested in this beast of a vehicle and > the numberous vacuum lines etc and with this I'm starting to notice a > lot of potential problems. > > 1.) My vehicle stinks like gas when in the garage and I know there are > no leaks so I can assume that the evap canister is plugged? Or is it > possible it is not purging and is just sitting there full of gas? > If it isn't purging could it be a faulty CTO valve? > > 2.) Looking at a diagram of vac / vapour line routing for a YJ I see > that the PCV valve should be tee'd over to the evap cannister. On my > routing I can follow the PCV vent line (located at front end of valve > cover) directly to the carb (No tee to evap cannister) > > 3.) I also have a broken nipple on the TVS valve so I imagine this is > one of the reasons why the EGR valve is not moving. Could I bypass the > TVS valve and have the EGR function all the time? I went to 3 places 2 > of them didn't know what the TVS valve was and Canuck Tire said the > part was discontinued. > > Thanks |
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Either do I :)
I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when it became illegal in Canada. :) On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote: >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip most >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. |
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Either do I :)
I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when it became illegal in Canada. :) On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote: >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip most >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. |
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Either do I :)
I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when it became illegal in Canada. :) On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote: >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip most >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. |
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You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted?
JimG "Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com... > Either do I :) > > I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > > I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > > My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > it became illegal in Canada. :) > > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip most > >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > |
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You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted?
JimG "Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com... > Either do I :) > > I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > > I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > > My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > it became illegal in Canada. :) > > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip most > >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > |
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You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted?
JimG "Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com... > Either do I :) > > I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > > I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > > My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > it became illegal in Canada. :) > > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip most > >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > |
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I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :)
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote: >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > >JimG > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . >> Either do I :) >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when >> it became illegal in Canada. :) >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> >> wrote: >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip >most >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. >> > |
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I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :)
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote: >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > >JimG > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . >> Either do I :) >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when >> it became illegal in Canada. :) >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> >> wrote: >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip >most >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. >> > |
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I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :)
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote: >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > >JimG > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . >> Either do I :) >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when >> it became illegal in Canada. :) >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> >> wrote: >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip >most >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. >> > |
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What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the
activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they don't last long. So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? JimG "Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com... > I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > > > >JimG > > > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . > >> Either do I :) > >> > >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > >> > >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > >> > >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > >> it became illegal in Canada. :) > >> > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip > >most > >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > >> > > > |
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What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the
activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they don't last long. So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? JimG "Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com... > I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > > > >JimG > > > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . > >> Either do I :) > >> > >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > >> > >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > >> > >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > >> it became illegal in Canada. :) > >> > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip > >most > >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > >> > > > |
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What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the
activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they don't last long. So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? JimG "Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com... > I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > > > >JimG > > > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . > >> Either do I :) > >> > >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > >> > >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > >> > >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > >> it became illegal in Canada. :) > >> > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip > >most > >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > >> > > > |
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A picture is worth a thousand words.
http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm Drop me an e-mail if you need help with your tv problem. On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:07:57 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote: >What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the >activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they >don't last long. >So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? > >JimG > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message >news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com.. . >> I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> >> wrote: >> >> >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? >> > >> >JimG >> > >> >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message >> >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . >> >> Either do I :) >> >> >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had >> >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the >> >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to >> >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. >> >> >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have >> >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never >> >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out >> >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked >> >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford >> >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get >> >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. >> >> >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when >> >> it became illegal in Canada. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip >> >most >> >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. >> >> >> > >> > |
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A picture is worth a thousand words.
http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm Drop me an e-mail if you need help with your tv problem. On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:07:57 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote: >What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the >activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they >don't last long. >So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? > >JimG > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message >news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com.. . >> I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> >> wrote: >> >> >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? >> > >> >JimG >> > >> >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message >> >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . >> >> Either do I :) >> >> >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had >> >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the >> >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to >> >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. >> >> >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have >> >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never >> >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out >> >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked >> >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford >> >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get >> >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. >> >> >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when >> >> it became illegal in Canada. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip >> >most >> >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. >> >> >> > >> > |
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A picture is worth a thousand words.
http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm Drop me an e-mail if you need help with your tv problem. On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:07:57 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote: >What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the >activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they >don't last long. >So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? > >JimG > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message >news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com.. . >> I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> >> wrote: >> >> >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? >> > >> >JimG >> > >> >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message >> >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . >> >> Either do I :) >> >> >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had >> >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the >> >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to >> >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. >> >> >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have >> >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never >> >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out >> >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked >> >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford >> >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get >> >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. >> >> >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when >> >> it became illegal in Canada. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip >> >most >> >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. >> >> >> > >> > |
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hey Jim,
When my needle and seat went bad the carb over flowed into the manifold. it stunk of gas big time. -- Thanks Always !!! Paul '75 CJ5 258 Vail, CO. "Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message news:7s8ltvsm5v253jap83he7u4bdtsqcoo3bf@4ax.com... > A picture is worth a thousand words. > http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm > > Drop me an e-mail if you need help with your tv problem. > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:07:57 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the > >activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they > >don't last long. > >So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? > > > >JimG > > > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com.. . > >> I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > >> > > >> >JimG > >> > > >> >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >> >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . > >> >> Either do I :) > >> >> > >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > >> >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > >> >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > >> >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > >> >> > >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > >> >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > >> >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > >> >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > >> >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > >> >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > >> >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > >> >> > >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > >> >> it became illegal in Canada. :) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip > >> >most > >> >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > |
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hey Jim,
When my needle and seat went bad the carb over flowed into the manifold. it stunk of gas big time. -- Thanks Always !!! Paul '75 CJ5 258 Vail, CO. "Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message news:7s8ltvsm5v253jap83he7u4bdtsqcoo3bf@4ax.com... > A picture is worth a thousand words. > http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm > > Drop me an e-mail if you need help with your tv problem. > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:07:57 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the > >activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they > >don't last long. > >So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? > > > >JimG > > > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com.. . > >> I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > >> > > >> >JimG > >> > > >> >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >> >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . > >> >> Either do I :) > >> >> > >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > >> >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > >> >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > >> >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > >> >> > >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > >> >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > >> >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > >> >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > >> >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > >> >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > >> >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > >> >> > >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > >> >> it became illegal in Canada. :) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip > >> >most > >> >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > |
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hey Jim,
When my needle and seat went bad the carb over flowed into the manifold. it stunk of gas big time. -- Thanks Always !!! Paul '75 CJ5 258 Vail, CO. "Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message news:7s8ltvsm5v253jap83he7u4bdtsqcoo3bf@4ax.com... > A picture is worth a thousand words. > http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm > > Drop me an e-mail if you need help with your tv problem. > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:07:57 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the > >activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they > >don't last long. > >So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? > > > >JimG > > > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com.. . > >> I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > >> > > >> >JimG > >> > > >> >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >> >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . > >> >> Either do I :) > >> >> > >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > >> >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > >> >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > >> >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > >> >> > >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > >> >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > >> >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > >> >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > >> >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > >> >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > >> >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > >> >> > >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > >> >> it became illegal in Canada. :) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip > >> >most > >> >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > |
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The vehicle in question has a new carb and come to think of it I did
notice the smell before I changed out the carb it is just a bit more noticable now that I have heat in my garage ...... wouldn't a stuck needle valve have flooded your jeep big time ? On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:39:46 -0700, "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote: >hey Jim, >When my needle and seat went bad the carb over flowed into the manifold. it >stunk of gas big time. |
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The vehicle in question has a new carb and come to think of it I did
notice the smell before I changed out the carb it is just a bit more noticable now that I have heat in my garage ...... wouldn't a stuck needle valve have flooded your jeep big time ? On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:39:46 -0700, "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote: >hey Jim, >When my needle and seat went bad the carb over flowed into the manifold. it >stunk of gas big time. |
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The vehicle in question has a new carb and come to think of it I did
notice the smell before I changed out the carb it is just a bit more noticable now that I have heat in my garage ...... wouldn't a stuck needle valve have flooded your jeep big time ? On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:39:46 -0700, "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote: >hey Jim, >When my needle and seat went bad the carb over flowed into the manifold. it >stunk of gas big time. |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:41:11 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) Semper Fi? |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:41:11 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) Semper Fi? |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:41:11 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote:
>I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) Semper Fi? |
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Being in Canada myself, have to ask, what make top is that and were did
you get it, very nice fit, would look good on my CJ "Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message news:7s8ltvsm5v253jap83he7u4bdtsqcoo3bf@4ax.com... > A picture is worth a thousand words. > http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm > > Drop me an e-mail if you need help with your tv problem. > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:07:57 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the > >activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they > >don't last long. > >So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? > > > >JimG > > > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com.. . > >> I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > >> > > >> >JimG > >> > > >> >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >> >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . > >> >> Either do I :) > >> >> > >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > >> >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > >> >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > >> >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > >> >> > >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > >> >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > >> >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > >> >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > >> >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > >> >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > >> >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > >> >> > >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > >> >> it became illegal in Canada. :) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip > >> >most > >> >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > |
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Being in Canada myself, have to ask, what make top is that and were did
you get it, very nice fit, would look good on my CJ "Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message news:7s8ltvsm5v253jap83he7u4bdtsqcoo3bf@4ax.com... > A picture is worth a thousand words. > http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm > > Drop me an e-mail if you need help with your tv problem. > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:07:57 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the > >activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they > >don't last long. > >So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? > > > >JimG > > > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com.. . > >> I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > >> > > >> >JimG > >> > > >> >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >> >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . > >> >> Either do I :) > >> >> > >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > >> >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > >> >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > >> >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > >> >> > >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > >> >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > >> >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > >> >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > >> >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > >> >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > >> >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > >> >> > >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > >> >> it became illegal in Canada. :) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip > >> >most > >> >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > |
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Being in Canada myself, have to ask, what make top is that and were did
you get it, very nice fit, would look good on my CJ "Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message news:7s8ltvsm5v253jap83he7u4bdtsqcoo3bf@4ax.com... > A picture is worth a thousand words. > http://members.shaw.ca/kb57/jeep.htm > > Drop me an e-mail if you need help with your tv problem. > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:07:57 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > wrote: > > >What a mess that ng is! I have prolly seen you there... I gave up when the > >activation no longer worked with my sub bin. Tried a few 3m's, but they > >don't last long. > >So... anyway , what model is your Jeep? > > > >JimG > > > >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >news:026ltvc06heuhin825aa6sqd2qvrmggujh@4ax.com.. . > >> I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:36:46 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >You mean you gave it up when the hu bins became blacklisted? > >> > > >> >JimG > >> > > >> >"Jeepster" <me@excite.com> wrote in message > >> >news:8i3ltvs20tqksr6ejvoo4pvivrgk0pk3ic@4ax.com.. . > >> >> Either do I :) > >> >> > >> >> I did some digging around by the canister and found the P.O had > >> >> plugged the line from the cannister back to were it tee'd off with the > >> >> PCV vent line back to the carb. I had enough vac line and fittings to > >> >> set this right so I'm hoping that is one of my problems fixed. > >> >> > >> >> I never had a garage in my previous town and when I moved here I have > >> >> this wonderful heated garage, before I fixed what was broken and never > >> >> had the ambition to do much else when it meant dragging the tools out > >> >> and working in the elements. In the last 1-1/2 years I have worked > >> >> 1400 hours overtime and now that the new plant is up (Shell Scotford > >> >> upgrader) and running I have a lot more time on my hands...... so get > >> >> use to my stupid questions I have a new hobby now. > >> >> > >> >> My hobby use to be American Satellite hacking but I gave that up when > >> >> it became illegal in Canada. :) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:19:18 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Dang!... sounds like "Mike" questions to me... personally I would rip > >> >most > >> >> >of that crap out... but then I don't have to pass a smog test. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > |
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Normally when I see a disconnected canister, that means the purge valve
went bad. I noticed you mention you have it hooked up now. I would recommend you test it. If blown, the canister purge valve will effectively shut down the PCV system and cause lots of oil to spit into the air filter. It will also make the idle rough and erratic. To test it have the engine running at idle and pinch the line from the canister to the PCV line closed. If the idle changes, the canister is dead. The canister is only supposed to be purging when the engine is hot and at speed. The purge signal is a ported vacuum source routed through the CTO valve. The canister also has an air filter on the bottom. CT sells them for about two bucks. Getting the first one out is a bear, it will need to be dug out with a screwdriver or hammer and chisel like mine. The new one just tucks back in. You really don't want the EGR to open until the engine is 'really' warmed up. That TVS holds the EGR closed until the air filter has warmed up enough. Maybe ask CT about one from a 91 YJ? Or one from a 86 CJ7? These both have the 4.2 engine. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Jeepster wrote: > > I have really started to get interested in this beast of a vehicle and > the numberous vacuum lines etc and with this I'm starting to notice a > lot of potential problems. > > 1.) My vehicle stinks like gas when in the garage and I know there are > no leaks so I can assume that the evap canister is plugged? Or is it > possible it is not purging and is just sitting there full of gas? > If it isn't purging could it be a faulty CTO valve? > > 2.) Looking at a diagram of vac / vapour line routing for a YJ I see > that the PCV valve should be tee'd over to the evap cannister. On my > routing I can follow the PCV vent line (located at front end of valve > cover) directly to the carb (No tee to evap cannister) > > 3.) I also have a broken nipple on the TVS valve so I imagine this is > one of the reasons why the EGR valve is not moving. Could I bypass the > TVS valve and have the EGR function all the time? I went to 3 places 2 > of them didn't know what the TVS valve was and Canuck Tire said the > part was discontinued. > > Thanks |
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Normally when I see a disconnected canister, that means the purge valve
went bad. I noticed you mention you have it hooked up now. I would recommend you test it. If blown, the canister purge valve will effectively shut down the PCV system and cause lots of oil to spit into the air filter. It will also make the idle rough and erratic. To test it have the engine running at idle and pinch the line from the canister to the PCV line closed. If the idle changes, the canister is dead. The canister is only supposed to be purging when the engine is hot and at speed. The purge signal is a ported vacuum source routed through the CTO valve. The canister also has an air filter on the bottom. CT sells them for about two bucks. Getting the first one out is a bear, it will need to be dug out with a screwdriver or hammer and chisel like mine. The new one just tucks back in. You really don't want the EGR to open until the engine is 'really' warmed up. That TVS holds the EGR closed until the air filter has warmed up enough. Maybe ask CT about one from a 91 YJ? Or one from a 86 CJ7? These both have the 4.2 engine. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Jeepster wrote: > > I have really started to get interested in this beast of a vehicle and > the numberous vacuum lines etc and with this I'm starting to notice a > lot of potential problems. > > 1.) My vehicle stinks like gas when in the garage and I know there are > no leaks so I can assume that the evap canister is plugged? Or is it > possible it is not purging and is just sitting there full of gas? > If it isn't purging could it be a faulty CTO valve? > > 2.) Looking at a diagram of vac / vapour line routing for a YJ I see > that the PCV valve should be tee'd over to the evap cannister. On my > routing I can follow the PCV vent line (located at front end of valve > cover) directly to the carb (No tee to evap cannister) > > 3.) I also have a broken nipple on the TVS valve so I imagine this is > one of the reasons why the EGR valve is not moving. Could I bypass the > TVS valve and have the EGR function all the time? I went to 3 places 2 > of them didn't know what the TVS valve was and Canuck Tire said the > part was discontinued. > > Thanks |
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Normally when I see a disconnected canister, that means the purge valve
went bad. I noticed you mention you have it hooked up now. I would recommend you test it. If blown, the canister purge valve will effectively shut down the PCV system and cause lots of oil to spit into the air filter. It will also make the idle rough and erratic. To test it have the engine running at idle and pinch the line from the canister to the PCV line closed. If the idle changes, the canister is dead. The canister is only supposed to be purging when the engine is hot and at speed. The purge signal is a ported vacuum source routed through the CTO valve. The canister also has an air filter on the bottom. CT sells them for about two bucks. Getting the first one out is a bear, it will need to be dug out with a screwdriver or hammer and chisel like mine. The new one just tucks back in. You really don't want the EGR to open until the engine is 'really' warmed up. That TVS holds the EGR closed until the air filter has warmed up enough. Maybe ask CT about one from a 91 YJ? Or one from a 86 CJ7? These both have the 4.2 engine. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Jeepster wrote: > > I have really started to get interested in this beast of a vehicle and > the numberous vacuum lines etc and with this I'm starting to notice a > lot of potential problems. > > 1.) My vehicle stinks like gas when in the garage and I know there are > no leaks so I can assume that the evap canister is plugged? Or is it > possible it is not purging and is just sitting there full of gas? > If it isn't purging could it be a faulty CTO valve? > > 2.) Looking at a diagram of vac / vapour line routing for a YJ I see > that the PCV valve should be tee'd over to the evap cannister. On my > routing I can follow the PCV vent line (located at front end of valve > cover) directly to the carb (No tee to evap cannister) > > 3.) I also have a broken nipple on the TVS valve so I imagine this is > one of the reasons why the EGR valve is not moving. Could I bypass the > TVS valve and have the EGR function all the time? I went to 3 places 2 > of them didn't know what the TVS valve was and Canuck Tire said the > part was discontinued. > > Thanks |
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Naw... it was my name in a online I use to play called Delta Force. :)
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:34:02 -0600, Matt Osborn <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote: >On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:41:11 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote: > >>I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > >Semper Fi? |
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Naw... it was my name in a online I use to play called Delta Force. :)
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:34:02 -0600, Matt Osborn <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote: >On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:41:11 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote: > >>I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > >Semper Fi? |
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Naw... it was my name in a online I use to play called Delta Force. :)
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:34:02 -0600, Matt Osborn <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote: >On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:41:11 -0700, Jeepster <me@excite.com> wrote: > >>I was known as Gunny in Alt.Dss.Hack .... :) > >Semper Fi? |
Re: More Questions
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:03:55 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote: >Normally when I see a disconnected canister, that means the purge valve >went bad. > >I noticed you mention you have it hooked up now. I would recommend you >test it. > >If blown, the canister purge valve will effectively shut down the PCV >system and cause lots of oil to spit into the air filter. It will also >make the idle rough and erratic. Yup it sure was the idle had picked up 100 or so RPM and it had that little bit of a stumble showing up when idling. > >To test it have the engine running at idle and pinch the line from the >canister to the PCV line closed. If the idle changes, the canister is >dead. > >The canister is only supposed to be purging when the engine is hot and >at speed. The purge signal is a ported vacuum source routed through the >CTO valve. > >The canister also has an air filter on the bottom. CT sells them for >about two bucks. Getting the first one out is a bear, it will need to >be dug out with a screwdriver or hammer and chisel like mine. The new >one just tucks back in. I will just go and get a whole new canister ..... :) > >You really don't want the EGR to open until the engine is 'really' >warmed up. That TVS holds the EGR closed until the air filter has >warmed up enough. I took it off today and it is packed up solid I'm waiting for a new one to come in and if I have to I will visit the local Pick Your Part and grab a TVS. > >Maybe ask CT about one from a 91 YJ? Or one from a 86 CJ7? These both >have the 4.2 engine. > >Mike >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Now that I have had a chance to drive it since doing the Nutter and adjusting the idle screws I do notice a slight stumble went I start out from a stop...... What could be causing this? Thanks as always. >Jeepster wrote: >> >> I have really started to get interested in this beast of a vehicle and >> the numberous vacuum lines etc and with this I'm starting to notice a >> lot of potential problems. >> >> 1.) My vehicle stinks like gas when in the garage and I know there are >> no leaks so I can assume that the evap canister is plugged? Or is it >> possible it is not purging and is just sitting there full of gas? >> If it isn't purging could it be a faulty CTO valve? >> >> 2.) Looking at a diagram of vac / vapour line routing for a YJ I see >> that the PCV valve should be tee'd over to the evap cannister. On my >> routing I can follow the PCV vent line (located at front end of valve >> cover) directly to the carb (No tee to evap cannister) >> >> 3.) I also have a broken nipple on the TVS valve so I imagine this is >> one of the reasons why the EGR valve is not moving. Could I bypass the >> TVS valve and have the EGR function all the time? I went to 3 places 2 >> of them didn't know what the TVS valve was and Canuck Tire said the >> part was discontinued. >> >> Thanks |
Re: More Questions
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:03:55 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote: >Normally when I see a disconnected canister, that means the purge valve >went bad. > >I noticed you mention you have it hooked up now. I would recommend you >test it. > >If blown, the canister purge valve will effectively shut down the PCV >system and cause lots of oil to spit into the air filter. It will also >make the idle rough and erratic. Yup it sure was the idle had picked up 100 or so RPM and it had that little bit of a stumble showing up when idling. > >To test it have the engine running at idle and pinch the line from the >canister to the PCV line closed. If the idle changes, the canister is >dead. > >The canister is only supposed to be purging when the engine is hot and >at speed. The purge signal is a ported vacuum source routed through the >CTO valve. > >The canister also has an air filter on the bottom. CT sells them for >about two bucks. Getting the first one out is a bear, it will need to >be dug out with a screwdriver or hammer and chisel like mine. The new >one just tucks back in. I will just go and get a whole new canister ..... :) > >You really don't want the EGR to open until the engine is 'really' >warmed up. That TVS holds the EGR closed until the air filter has >warmed up enough. I took it off today and it is packed up solid I'm waiting for a new one to come in and if I have to I will visit the local Pick Your Part and grab a TVS. > >Maybe ask CT about one from a 91 YJ? Or one from a 86 CJ7? These both >have the 4.2 engine. > >Mike >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Now that I have had a chance to drive it since doing the Nutter and adjusting the idle screws I do notice a slight stumble went I start out from a stop...... What could be causing this? Thanks as always. >Jeepster wrote: >> >> I have really started to get interested in this beast of a vehicle and >> the numberous vacuum lines etc and with this I'm starting to notice a >> lot of potential problems. >> >> 1.) My vehicle stinks like gas when in the garage and I know there are >> no leaks so I can assume that the evap canister is plugged? Or is it >> possible it is not purging and is just sitting there full of gas? >> If it isn't purging could it be a faulty CTO valve? >> >> 2.) Looking at a diagram of vac / vapour line routing for a YJ I see >> that the PCV valve should be tee'd over to the evap cannister. On my >> routing I can follow the PCV vent line (located at front end of valve >> cover) directly to the carb (No tee to evap cannister) >> >> 3.) I also have a broken nipple on the TVS valve so I imagine this is >> one of the reasons why the EGR valve is not moving. Could I bypass the >> TVS valve and have the EGR function all the time? I went to 3 places 2 >> of them didn't know what the TVS valve was and Canuck Tire said the >> part was discontinued. >> >> Thanks |
Re: More Questions
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:03:55 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote: >Normally when I see a disconnected canister, that means the purge valve >went bad. > >I noticed you mention you have it hooked up now. I would recommend you >test it. > >If blown, the canister purge valve will effectively shut down the PCV >system and cause lots of oil to spit into the air filter. It will also >make the idle rough and erratic. Yup it sure was the idle had picked up 100 or so RPM and it had that little bit of a stumble showing up when idling. > >To test it have the engine running at idle and pinch the line from the >canister to the PCV line closed. If the idle changes, the canister is >dead. > >The canister is only supposed to be purging when the engine is hot and >at speed. The purge signal is a ported vacuum source routed through the >CTO valve. > >The canister also has an air filter on the bottom. CT sells them for >about two bucks. Getting the first one out is a bear, it will need to >be dug out with a screwdriver or hammer and chisel like mine. The new >one just tucks back in. I will just go and get a whole new canister ..... :) > >You really don't want the EGR to open until the engine is 'really' >warmed up. That TVS holds the EGR closed until the air filter has >warmed up enough. I took it off today and it is packed up solid I'm waiting for a new one to come in and if I have to I will visit the local Pick Your Part and grab a TVS. > >Maybe ask CT about one from a 91 YJ? Or one from a 86 CJ7? These both >have the 4.2 engine. > >Mike >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Now that I have had a chance to drive it since doing the Nutter and adjusting the idle screws I do notice a slight stumble went I start out from a stop...... What could be causing this? Thanks as always. >Jeepster wrote: >> >> I have really started to get interested in this beast of a vehicle and >> the numberous vacuum lines etc and with this I'm starting to notice a >> lot of potential problems. >> >> 1.) My vehicle stinks like gas when in the garage and I know there are >> no leaks so I can assume that the evap canister is plugged? Or is it >> possible it is not purging and is just sitting there full of gas? >> If it isn't purging could it be a faulty CTO valve? >> >> 2.) Looking at a diagram of vac / vapour line routing for a YJ I see >> that the PCV valve should be tee'd over to the evap cannister. On my >> routing I can follow the PCV vent line (located at front end of valve >> cover) directly to the carb (No tee to evap cannister) >> >> 3.) I also have a broken nipple on the TVS valve so I imagine this is >> one of the reasons why the EGR valve is not moving. Could I bypass the >> TVS valve and have the EGR function all the time? I went to 3 places 2 >> of them didn't know what the TVS valve was and Canuck Tire said the >> part was discontinued. >> >> Thanks |
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