More Problems with My '89 XJ :-(
#11
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Re: More Problems with My '89 XJ :-(
For #1 I would clean all the connections on the throttle body with a
spray contact cleaner. WD40 will work in a pinch. You could just be
describing a dirty connection on the TPS which is fairly common on the
older beasts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Jeffery P." wrote:
>
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
spray contact cleaner. WD40 will work in a pinch. You could just be
describing a dirty connection on the TPS which is fairly common on the
older beasts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Jeffery P." wrote:
>
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: More Problems with My '89 XJ :-(
For #1 I would clean all the connections on the throttle body with a
spray contact cleaner. WD40 will work in a pinch. You could just be
describing a dirty connection on the TPS which is fairly common on the
older beasts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Jeffery P." wrote:
>
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
spray contact cleaner. WD40 will work in a pinch. You could just be
describing a dirty connection on the TPS which is fairly common on the
older beasts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Jeffery P." wrote:
>
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: More Problems with My '89 XJ :-(
For #1 I would clean all the connections on the throttle body with a
spray contact cleaner. WD40 will work in a pinch. You could just be
describing a dirty connection on the TPS which is fairly common on the
older beasts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Jeffery P." wrote:
>
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
spray contact cleaner. WD40 will work in a pinch. You could just be
describing a dirty connection on the TPS which is fairly common on the
older beasts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Jeffery P." wrote:
>
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
#14
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Re: More Problems with My '89 XJ :-(
I've been trying to get mine to play nice on cold start for 4 years
now - and I've about given up. I'm pretty sure it's a problem with
temperature and the computer somewhere. My throttle body and
everything associated with it were one big heap of gunk when I got it
and a really thorough cleaning got rid of the majority of the problems
and changing the O2 sensor got rid of a lot more, but those all had
sympthoms beyond just dying at the stop sign. For the first 2-3
minutes it still does that BUT only when the outside temperature is in
the 50 degree range. Cleaning the throttle position sensor leads helps
a little but the idle still drops way low at the stop sign at the
bottom of the hill - sometimes it catches and is fine, sometimes it
dies. If it's good and cold or nice and warm out, no problem - just
that one temperature range that usually comes in the Spring and Fall.
Aside from that, no problems so I've pretty much decided to leave it
alone and expect it on those chilly but not cold mornings.
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:13:44 UTC Jeffery P. <jeepboy*nospam*@mts.net>
wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
--
Will Honea
now - and I've about given up. I'm pretty sure it's a problem with
temperature and the computer somewhere. My throttle body and
everything associated with it were one big heap of gunk when I got it
and a really thorough cleaning got rid of the majority of the problems
and changing the O2 sensor got rid of a lot more, but those all had
sympthoms beyond just dying at the stop sign. For the first 2-3
minutes it still does that BUT only when the outside temperature is in
the 50 degree range. Cleaning the throttle position sensor leads helps
a little but the idle still drops way low at the stop sign at the
bottom of the hill - sometimes it catches and is fine, sometimes it
dies. If it's good and cold or nice and warm out, no problem - just
that one temperature range that usually comes in the Spring and Fall.
Aside from that, no problems so I've pretty much decided to leave it
alone and expect it on those chilly but not cold mornings.
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:13:44 UTC Jeffery P. <jeepboy*nospam*@mts.net>
wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
--
Will Honea
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: More Problems with My '89 XJ :-(
I've been trying to get mine to play nice on cold start for 4 years
now - and I've about given up. I'm pretty sure it's a problem with
temperature and the computer somewhere. My throttle body and
everything associated with it were one big heap of gunk when I got it
and a really thorough cleaning got rid of the majority of the problems
and changing the O2 sensor got rid of a lot more, but those all had
sympthoms beyond just dying at the stop sign. For the first 2-3
minutes it still does that BUT only when the outside temperature is in
the 50 degree range. Cleaning the throttle position sensor leads helps
a little but the idle still drops way low at the stop sign at the
bottom of the hill - sometimes it catches and is fine, sometimes it
dies. If it's good and cold or nice and warm out, no problem - just
that one temperature range that usually comes in the Spring and Fall.
Aside from that, no problems so I've pretty much decided to leave it
alone and expect it on those chilly but not cold mornings.
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:13:44 UTC Jeffery P. <jeepboy*nospam*@mts.net>
wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
--
Will Honea
now - and I've about given up. I'm pretty sure it's a problem with
temperature and the computer somewhere. My throttle body and
everything associated with it were one big heap of gunk when I got it
and a really thorough cleaning got rid of the majority of the problems
and changing the O2 sensor got rid of a lot more, but those all had
sympthoms beyond just dying at the stop sign. For the first 2-3
minutes it still does that BUT only when the outside temperature is in
the 50 degree range. Cleaning the throttle position sensor leads helps
a little but the idle still drops way low at the stop sign at the
bottom of the hill - sometimes it catches and is fine, sometimes it
dies. If it's good and cold or nice and warm out, no problem - just
that one temperature range that usually comes in the Spring and Fall.
Aside from that, no problems so I've pretty much decided to leave it
alone and expect it on those chilly but not cold mornings.
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:13:44 UTC Jeffery P. <jeepboy*nospam*@mts.net>
wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
--
Will Honea
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: More Problems with My '89 XJ :-(
I've been trying to get mine to play nice on cold start for 4 years
now - and I've about given up. I'm pretty sure it's a problem with
temperature and the computer somewhere. My throttle body and
everything associated with it were one big heap of gunk when I got it
and a really thorough cleaning got rid of the majority of the problems
and changing the O2 sensor got rid of a lot more, but those all had
sympthoms beyond just dying at the stop sign. For the first 2-3
minutes it still does that BUT only when the outside temperature is in
the 50 degree range. Cleaning the throttle position sensor leads helps
a little but the idle still drops way low at the stop sign at the
bottom of the hill - sometimes it catches and is fine, sometimes it
dies. If it's good and cold or nice and warm out, no problem - just
that one temperature range that usually comes in the Spring and Fall.
Aside from that, no problems so I've pretty much decided to leave it
alone and expect it on those chilly but not cold mornings.
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:13:44 UTC Jeffery P. <jeepboy*nospam*@mts.net>
wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
--
Will Honea
now - and I've about given up. I'm pretty sure it's a problem with
temperature and the computer somewhere. My throttle body and
everything associated with it were one big heap of gunk when I got it
and a really thorough cleaning got rid of the majority of the problems
and changing the O2 sensor got rid of a lot more, but those all had
sympthoms beyond just dying at the stop sign. For the first 2-3
minutes it still does that BUT only when the outside temperature is in
the 50 degree range. Cleaning the throttle position sensor leads helps
a little but the idle still drops way low at the stop sign at the
bottom of the hill - sometimes it catches and is fine, sometimes it
dies. If it's good and cold or nice and warm out, no problem - just
that one temperature range that usually comes in the Spring and Fall.
Aside from that, no problems so I've pretty much decided to leave it
alone and expect it on those chilly but not cold mornings.
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:13:44 UTC Jeffery P. <jeepboy*nospam*@mts.net>
wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
--
Will Honea
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Re: More Problems with My '89 XJ :-(
I've been trying to get mine to play nice on cold start for 4 years
now - and I've about given up. I'm pretty sure it's a problem with
temperature and the computer somewhere. My throttle body and
everything associated with it were one big heap of gunk when I got it
and a really thorough cleaning got rid of the majority of the problems
and changing the O2 sensor got rid of a lot more, but those all had
sympthoms beyond just dying at the stop sign. For the first 2-3
minutes it still does that BUT only when the outside temperature is in
the 50 degree range. Cleaning the throttle position sensor leads helps
a little but the idle still drops way low at the stop sign at the
bottom of the hill - sometimes it catches and is fine, sometimes it
dies. If it's good and cold or nice and warm out, no problem - just
that one temperature range that usually comes in the Spring and Fall.
Aside from that, no problems so I've pretty much decided to leave it
alone and expect it on those chilly but not cold mornings.
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:13:44 UTC Jeffery P. <jeepboy*nospam*@mts.net>
wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
--
Will Honea
now - and I've about given up. I'm pretty sure it's a problem with
temperature and the computer somewhere. My throttle body and
everything associated with it were one big heap of gunk when I got it
and a really thorough cleaning got rid of the majority of the problems
and changing the O2 sensor got rid of a lot more, but those all had
sympthoms beyond just dying at the stop sign. For the first 2-3
minutes it still does that BUT only when the outside temperature is in
the 50 degree range. Cleaning the throttle position sensor leads helps
a little but the idle still drops way low at the stop sign at the
bottom of the hill - sometimes it catches and is fine, sometimes it
dies. If it's good and cold or nice and warm out, no problem - just
that one temperature range that usually comes in the Spring and Fall.
Aside from that, no problems so I've pretty much decided to leave it
alone and expect it on those chilly but not cold mornings.
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:13:44 UTC Jeffery P. <jeepboy*nospam*@mts.net>
wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> I am having a couple of problems with my 89 Cherokee and I was just
> wondering if anyone has any suggestions to help me track down and
> repair these problems. Any ideas would be very much appreciated, as
> always!
>
> Problem #1:
> When I first start the vehicle, drop her into "D" and start to drive
> everything seems fine but for the first few minutes it will stall out
> or the idle will drop really low every time I come to a stop unless I
> put into neutral and give it some gas. It does this for 2-3 minutes
> and then everything is fine. It does it at ALL temperatures, not just
> when cold. At any time I start the vehicle it goes through this same
> process all over again, even if the vehicle is only off for a couple
> of minutes.
>
> Problem #2:
> My PDL (power door locks) quit working so the first thing I checked
> was the circuit breaker at the fuse box. I found the breaker was super
> hot (I have the blisters to prove it) so I pulled it out with a pair
> of pliers and left it it cool down. Once it was cool I tried the same
> breaker in the Power Window slot and it was working fine and not
> heating up. I went to put the breaker back into the slot for the PDL
> and it sparked like crazy and my interior lights dimmer as I tried to
> put it in. Just to be sure it wasnt the breaker, I purchased a new one
> but the same thing happened-it let out a huge spark as I tried to put
> it in and in the 1/4 second it made contact, it got just as hot as the
> old one. I pulled both of the PDL switches out and checked for
> continuity in the wiring as well as all grounds/connections and
> switches and cant seem to see anything obvious. I put the breaker back
> in and checked for power but there is no power going to either switch.
> Any ideas???
>
> Thanks a bunch. :-)
>
> **********
> * JEFFERY *
> **********
>
> 89 Cherokee Laredo
> 4.0L, AT, Selectrac 4X4, A/T/C, PW, PDL
--
Will Honea
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Re: More Problems with My '89 XJ :-(
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