More New Scrambler Details
10-10-2003, 11:29 PM
#241
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
>This is the casting that adapts the blower.
>http://members.***.net/wilsond/sc-cast.jpg
haha ok i should have looked before posting. :) i can see how that doesnt
leave any place for you to plumb an IC :) oops.
re: water or alch injection, i just started dabbling in alch injection, but
have come to the conclusion tis a totally non-streetable (with confidence)
setup..
by the time iw as done remapping the injectors (it would play havoc with the
fuel curve when the secondaries (and the water/alch injectors now acting as
tertiary) injectors came online.. so anyways i played around until it ran
superbly with the alch injection, but let me tell you.. when your resevior runs
dry, or close to, youre sunk. i went so instantly lean it was scary.. there was
nothing gradual, no lead in... it just went from near perfect stoich to holy
crap shut it down NOW in about a second running wide open. it was the same as
if i just unplugged a few fuel injects at that moment. it did run well with it
- but this is my daily driver too, i could never feel comfortable with alch
injection (tuned properly)
-Steve 98 TJ
>http://members.***.net/wilsond/sc-cast.jpg
haha ok i should have looked before posting. :) i can see how that doesnt
leave any place for you to plumb an IC :) oops.
re: water or alch injection, i just started dabbling in alch injection, but
have come to the conclusion tis a totally non-streetable (with confidence)
setup..
by the time iw as done remapping the injectors (it would play havoc with the
fuel curve when the secondaries (and the water/alch injectors now acting as
tertiary) injectors came online.. so anyways i played around until it ran
superbly with the alch injection, but let me tell you.. when your resevior runs
dry, or close to, youre sunk. i went so instantly lean it was scary.. there was
nothing gradual, no lead in... it just went from near perfect stoich to holy
crap shut it down NOW in about a second running wide open. it was the same as
if i just unplugged a few fuel injects at that moment. it did run well with it
- but this is my daily driver too, i could never feel comfortable with alch
injection (tuned properly)
-Steve 98 TJ
10-10-2003, 11:29 PM
#242
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
>This is the casting that adapts the blower.
>http://members.***.net/wilsond/sc-cast.jpg
haha ok i should have looked before posting. :) i can see how that doesnt
leave any place for you to plumb an IC :) oops.
re: water or alch injection, i just started dabbling in alch injection, but
have come to the conclusion tis a totally non-streetable (with confidence)
setup..
by the time iw as done remapping the injectors (it would play havoc with the
fuel curve when the secondaries (and the water/alch injectors now acting as
tertiary) injectors came online.. so anyways i played around until it ran
superbly with the alch injection, but let me tell you.. when your resevior runs
dry, or close to, youre sunk. i went so instantly lean it was scary.. there was
nothing gradual, no lead in... it just went from near perfect stoich to holy
crap shut it down NOW in about a second running wide open. it was the same as
if i just unplugged a few fuel injects at that moment. it did run well with it
- but this is my daily driver too, i could never feel comfortable with alch
injection (tuned properly)
-Steve 98 TJ
>http://members.***.net/wilsond/sc-cast.jpg
haha ok i should have looked before posting. :) i can see how that doesnt
leave any place for you to plumb an IC :) oops.
re: water or alch injection, i just started dabbling in alch injection, but
have come to the conclusion tis a totally non-streetable (with confidence)
setup..
by the time iw as done remapping the injectors (it would play havoc with the
fuel curve when the secondaries (and the water/alch injectors now acting as
tertiary) injectors came online.. so anyways i played around until it ran
superbly with the alch injection, but let me tell you.. when your resevior runs
dry, or close to, youre sunk. i went so instantly lean it was scary.. there was
nothing gradual, no lead in... it just went from near perfect stoich to holy
crap shut it down NOW in about a second running wide open. it was the same as
if i just unplugged a few fuel injects at that moment. it did run well with it
- but this is my daily driver too, i could never feel comfortable with alch
injection (tuned properly)
-Steve 98 TJ
10-11-2003, 01:40 AM
#243
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
probably isn't that long for a supercharger, but it's looong for a single
turbo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:KdGhb.445338$2x.163184@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att. net...
: Only for the first few feet with a blower... if that long.
:
: Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
:
: > if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
: >
:
:
: --
: My governor can kick your governor's ***
:
turbo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:KdGhb.445338$2x.163184@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att. net...
: Only for the first few feet with a blower... if that long.
:
: Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
:
: > if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
: >
:
:
: --
: My governor can kick your governor's ***
:
10-11-2003, 01:40 AM
#244
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
probably isn't that long for a supercharger, but it's looong for a single
turbo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:KdGhb.445338$2x.163184@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att. net...
: Only for the first few feet with a blower... if that long.
:
: Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
:
: > if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
: >
:
:
: --
: My governor can kick your governor's ***
:
turbo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:KdGhb.445338$2x.163184@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att. net...
: Only for the first few feet with a blower... if that long.
:
: Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
:
: > if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
: >
:
:
: --
: My governor can kick your governor's ***
:
10-11-2003, 01:40 AM
#245
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
probably isn't that long for a supercharger, but it's looong for a single
turbo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:KdGhb.445338$2x.163184@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att. net...
: Only for the first few feet with a blower... if that long.
:
: Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
:
: > if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
: >
:
:
: --
: My governor can kick your governor's ***
:
turbo.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:KdGhb.445338$2x.163184@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att. net...
: Only for the first few feet with a blower... if that long.
:
: Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
:
: > if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
: >
:
:
: --
: My governor can kick your governor's ***
:
10-11-2003, 03:03 AM
#246
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Goat Crapp did pass the time by typing:
>> This is the casting that adapts the blower.
>> http://members.***.net/wilsond/sc-cast.jpg
>
> haha ok i should have looked before posting. :) i can see how that doesnt
> leave any place for you to plumb an IC :) oops.
>
> re: water or alch injection, i just started dabbling in alch injection, but
> have come to the conclusion tis a totally non-streetable (with confidence)
> setup..
>
> by the time iw as done remapping the injectors (it would play havoc with the
> fuel curve when the secondaries (and the water/alch injectors now acting as
> tertiary) injectors came online.. so anyways i played around until it ran
> superbly with the alch injection, but let me tell you.. when your resevior
> runs dry, or close to, youre sunk. i went so instantly lean it was scary..
> there was nothing gradual, no lead in... it just went from near perfect
> stoich to holy crap shut it down NOW in about a second running wide open. it
> was the same as if i just unplugged a few fuel injects at that moment. it
> did run well with it - but this is my daily driver too, i could never feel
> comfortable with alch injection (tuned properly)
Yep. :)
If I do a water injection it will be with an interlock. Prolly borrowing the existing
low level switch from the windshield washer bottle, using it in the reservoir, and tying
it to the shutdown relay so it's impossible to run low without going into limp mode.
--
DougW
>> This is the casting that adapts the blower.
>> http://members.***.net/wilsond/sc-cast.jpg
>
> haha ok i should have looked before posting. :) i can see how that doesnt
> leave any place for you to plumb an IC :) oops.
>
> re: water or alch injection, i just started dabbling in alch injection, but
> have come to the conclusion tis a totally non-streetable (with confidence)
> setup..
>
> by the time iw as done remapping the injectors (it would play havoc with the
> fuel curve when the secondaries (and the water/alch injectors now acting as
> tertiary) injectors came online.. so anyways i played around until it ran
> superbly with the alch injection, but let me tell you.. when your resevior
> runs dry, or close to, youre sunk. i went so instantly lean it was scary..
> there was nothing gradual, no lead in... it just went from near perfect
> stoich to holy crap shut it down NOW in about a second running wide open. it
> was the same as if i just unplugged a few fuel injects at that moment. it
> did run well with it - but this is my daily driver too, i could never feel
> comfortable with alch injection (tuned properly)
Yep. :)
If I do a water injection it will be with an interlock. Prolly borrowing the existing
low level switch from the windshield washer bottle, using it in the reservoir, and tying
it to the shutdown relay so it's impossible to run low without going into limp mode.
--
DougW
10-11-2003, 03:03 AM
#247
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Goat Crapp did pass the time by typing:
>> This is the casting that adapts the blower.
>> http://members.***.net/wilsond/sc-cast.jpg
>
> haha ok i should have looked before posting. :) i can see how that doesnt
> leave any place for you to plumb an IC :) oops.
>
> re: water or alch injection, i just started dabbling in alch injection, but
> have come to the conclusion tis a totally non-streetable (with confidence)
> setup..
>
> by the time iw as done remapping the injectors (it would play havoc with the
> fuel curve when the secondaries (and the water/alch injectors now acting as
> tertiary) injectors came online.. so anyways i played around until it ran
> superbly with the alch injection, but let me tell you.. when your resevior
> runs dry, or close to, youre sunk. i went so instantly lean it was scary..
> there was nothing gradual, no lead in... it just went from near perfect
> stoich to holy crap shut it down NOW in about a second running wide open. it
> was the same as if i just unplugged a few fuel injects at that moment. it
> did run well with it - but this is my daily driver too, i could never feel
> comfortable with alch injection (tuned properly)
Yep. :)
If I do a water injection it will be with an interlock. Prolly borrowing the existing
low level switch from the windshield washer bottle, using it in the reservoir, and tying
it to the shutdown relay so it's impossible to run low without going into limp mode.
--
DougW
>> This is the casting that adapts the blower.
>> http://members.***.net/wilsond/sc-cast.jpg
>
> haha ok i should have looked before posting. :) i can see how that doesnt
> leave any place for you to plumb an IC :) oops.
>
> re: water or alch injection, i just started dabbling in alch injection, but
> have come to the conclusion tis a totally non-streetable (with confidence)
> setup..
>
> by the time iw as done remapping the injectors (it would play havoc with the
> fuel curve when the secondaries (and the water/alch injectors now acting as
> tertiary) injectors came online.. so anyways i played around until it ran
> superbly with the alch injection, but let me tell you.. when your resevior
> runs dry, or close to, youre sunk. i went so instantly lean it was scary..
> there was nothing gradual, no lead in... it just went from near perfect
> stoich to holy crap shut it down NOW in about a second running wide open. it
> was the same as if i just unplugged a few fuel injects at that moment. it
> did run well with it - but this is my daily driver too, i could never feel
> comfortable with alch injection (tuned properly)
Yep. :)
If I do a water injection it will be with an interlock. Prolly borrowing the existing
low level switch from the windshield washer bottle, using it in the reservoir, and tying
it to the shutdown relay so it's impossible to run low without going into limp mode.
--
DougW
10-11-2003, 03:03 AM
#248
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Goat Crapp did pass the time by typing:
>> This is the casting that adapts the blower.
>> http://members.***.net/wilsond/sc-cast.jpg
>
> haha ok i should have looked before posting. :) i can see how that doesnt
> leave any place for you to plumb an IC :) oops.
>
> re: water or alch injection, i just started dabbling in alch injection, but
> have come to the conclusion tis a totally non-streetable (with confidence)
> setup..
>
> by the time iw as done remapping the injectors (it would play havoc with the
> fuel curve when the secondaries (and the water/alch injectors now acting as
> tertiary) injectors came online.. so anyways i played around until it ran
> superbly with the alch injection, but let me tell you.. when your resevior
> runs dry, or close to, youre sunk. i went so instantly lean it was scary..
> there was nothing gradual, no lead in... it just went from near perfect
> stoich to holy crap shut it down NOW in about a second running wide open. it
> was the same as if i just unplugged a few fuel injects at that moment. it
> did run well with it - but this is my daily driver too, i could never feel
> comfortable with alch injection (tuned properly)
Yep. :)
If I do a water injection it will be with an interlock. Prolly borrowing the existing
low level switch from the windshield washer bottle, using it in the reservoir, and tying
it to the shutdown relay so it's impossible to run low without going into limp mode.
--
DougW
>> This is the casting that adapts the blower.
>> http://members.***.net/wilsond/sc-cast.jpg
>
> haha ok i should have looked before posting. :) i can see how that doesnt
> leave any place for you to plumb an IC :) oops.
>
> re: water or alch injection, i just started dabbling in alch injection, but
> have come to the conclusion tis a totally non-streetable (with confidence)
> setup..
>
> by the time iw as done remapping the injectors (it would play havoc with the
> fuel curve when the secondaries (and the water/alch injectors now acting as
> tertiary) injectors came online.. so anyways i played around until it ran
> superbly with the alch injection, but let me tell you.. when your resevior
> runs dry, or close to, youre sunk. i went so instantly lean it was scary..
> there was nothing gradual, no lead in... it just went from near perfect
> stoich to holy crap shut it down NOW in about a second running wide open. it
> was the same as if i just unplugged a few fuel injects at that moment. it
> did run well with it - but this is my daily driver too, i could never feel
> comfortable with alch injection (tuned properly)
Yep. :)
If I do a water injection it will be with an interlock. Prolly borrowing the existing
low level switch from the windshield washer bottle, using it in the reservoir, and tying
it to the shutdown relay so it's impossible to run low without going into limp mode.
--
DougW
10-11-2003, 03:30 PM
#249
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
>
>probably isn't that long for a supercharger, but it's looong for a single
>turbo.
thats why its good to have an aggressively geared tranny.. make 1st almost
unusably short, and launch it at ridiculously high rpms.. with a higher
redline, youre still into boost when you drop to the next gear, but under a
normal launch, youre absolutely right.. theres no smooth transition with a
single large turbo. totally different schools of thought, tho... but in the 7
(large single turbo conversion), i'm still getting sub 2second 60 footers..
which is pretty quick. (best to date was 1.7x on drag radials. haven't gone
with slicks yet because i drive to and fro the track, and just dont have room
for the extra set of rims with mickeys on them.)
-Steve 98 TJ
>probably isn't that long for a supercharger, but it's looong for a single
>turbo.
thats why its good to have an aggressively geared tranny.. make 1st almost
unusably short, and launch it at ridiculously high rpms.. with a higher
redline, youre still into boost when you drop to the next gear, but under a
normal launch, youre absolutely right.. theres no smooth transition with a
single large turbo. totally different schools of thought, tho... but in the 7
(large single turbo conversion), i'm still getting sub 2second 60 footers..
which is pretty quick. (best to date was 1.7x on drag radials. haven't gone
with slicks yet because i drive to and fro the track, and just dont have room
for the extra set of rims with mickeys on them.)
-Steve 98 TJ
10-11-2003, 03:30 PM
#250
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
>
>probably isn't that long for a supercharger, but it's looong for a single
>turbo.
thats why its good to have an aggressively geared tranny.. make 1st almost
unusably short, and launch it at ridiculously high rpms.. with a higher
redline, youre still into boost when you drop to the next gear, but under a
normal launch, youre absolutely right.. theres no smooth transition with a
single large turbo. totally different schools of thought, tho... but in the 7
(large single turbo conversion), i'm still getting sub 2second 60 footers..
which is pretty quick. (best to date was 1.7x on drag radials. haven't gone
with slicks yet because i drive to and fro the track, and just dont have room
for the extra set of rims with mickeys on them.)
-Steve 98 TJ
>probably isn't that long for a supercharger, but it's looong for a single
>turbo.
thats why its good to have an aggressively geared tranny.. make 1st almost
unusably short, and launch it at ridiculously high rpms.. with a higher
redline, youre still into boost when you drop to the next gear, but under a
normal launch, youre absolutely right.. theres no smooth transition with a
single large turbo. totally different schools of thought, tho... but in the 7
(large single turbo conversion), i'm still getting sub 2second 60 footers..
which is pretty quick. (best to date was 1.7x on drag radials. haven't gone
with slicks yet because i drive to and fro the track, and just dont have room
for the extra set of rims with mickeys on them.)
-Steve 98 TJ
