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Eugene D'Jeep 05-03-2004 05:24 PM

Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!






twaldron 05-03-2004 06:50 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I go by mileage, within reason. If it's been 3 months and you've only
gone 1500 miles on the change, I'd wait. If it's been six months, I'd
change it.

Eugene D'Jeep wrote:
> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!


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__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 05-03-2004 06:50 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I go by mileage, within reason. If it's been 3 months and you've only
gone 1500 miles on the change, I'd wait. If it's been six months, I'd
change it.

Eugene D'Jeep wrote:
> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 05-03-2004 06:50 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I go by mileage, within reason. If it's been 3 months and you've only
gone 1500 miles on the change, I'd wait. If it's been six months, I'd
change it.

Eugene D'Jeep wrote:
> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 05-03-2004 06:50 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I go by mileage, within reason. If it's been 3 months and you've only
gone 1500 miles on the change, I'd wait. If it's been six months, I'd
change it.

Eugene D'Jeep wrote:
> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-03-2004 07:18 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
It's hard call to make, with that mileage there's going to be a lot
of short trips like to the post office where the engine will not reach
full operating temperature, leaving the crankcase full of condensed
water, acids, and gasoline, none of which the filter is cable of
filtering.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> I go by mileage, within reason. If it's been 3 months and you've only
> gone 1500 miles on the change, I'd wait. If it's been six months, I'd
> change it.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-03-2004 07:18 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
It's hard call to make, with that mileage there's going to be a lot
of short trips like to the post office where the engine will not reach
full operating temperature, leaving the crankcase full of condensed
water, acids, and gasoline, none of which the filter is cable of
filtering.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> I go by mileage, within reason. If it's been 3 months and you've only
> gone 1500 miles on the change, I'd wait. If it's been six months, I'd
> change it.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-03-2004 07:18 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
It's hard call to make, with that mileage there's going to be a lot
of short trips like to the post office where the engine will not reach
full operating temperature, leaving the crankcase full of condensed
water, acids, and gasoline, none of which the filter is cable of
filtering.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> I go by mileage, within reason. If it's been 3 months and you've only
> gone 1500 miles on the change, I'd wait. If it's been six months, I'd
> change it.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-03-2004 07:18 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
It's hard call to make, with that mileage there's going to be a lot
of short trips like to the post office where the engine will not reach
full operating temperature, leaving the crankcase full of condensed
water, acids, and gasoline, none of which the filter is cable of
filtering.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> I go by mileage, within reason. If it's been 3 months and you've only
> gone 1500 miles on the change, I'd wait. If it's been six months, I'd
> change it.


Terry Jeffrey 05-03-2004 11:06 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
dealer; do it yourself.

Terry.


"Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
>
>
>
>
>




Terry Jeffrey 05-03-2004 11:06 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
dealer; do it yourself.

Terry.


"Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
>
>
>
>
>




Terry Jeffrey 05-03-2004 11:06 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
dealer; do it yourself.

Terry.


"Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
>
>
>
>
>




Terry Jeffrey 05-03-2004 11:06 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
dealer; do it yourself.

Terry.


"Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
>
>
>
>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-03-2004 11:30 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
The oil change is probably the cheapest insurance you may buy.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-03-2004 11:30 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
The oil change is probably the cheapest insurance you may buy.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-03-2004 11:30 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
The oil change is probably the cheapest insurance you may buy.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-03-2004 11:30 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
The oil change is probably the cheapest insurance you may buy.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.


Roy J 05-04-2004 12:20 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I store my Jeep over the winter, change the oil just before
storage. So come spring I needed a new battery. The garage tried
to sell me an oil change even though it had only 100 miles on the
oil and 2 or 3 engine starts.

Eugene D'Jeep wrote:

> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
>
>
>
>
>


Roy J 05-04-2004 12:20 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I store my Jeep over the winter, change the oil just before
storage. So come spring I needed a new battery. The garage tried
to sell me an oil change even though it had only 100 miles on the
oil and 2 or 3 engine starts.

Eugene D'Jeep wrote:

> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
>
>
>
>
>


Roy J 05-04-2004 12:20 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I store my Jeep over the winter, change the oil just before
storage. So come spring I needed a new battery. The garage tried
to sell me an oil change even though it had only 100 miles on the
oil and 2 or 3 engine starts.

Eugene D'Jeep wrote:

> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
>
>
>
>
>


Roy J 05-04-2004 12:20 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
I store my Jeep over the winter, change the oil just before
storage. So come spring I needed a new battery. The garage tried
to sell me an oil change even though it had only 100 miles on the
oil and 2 or 3 engine starts.

Eugene D'Jeep wrote:

> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
>
>
>
>
>


Eugene D'Jeep 05-04-2004 01:37 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Thanks for all the replies. I was thinking of taking it to a
dealership out of town(roughly 50m away). They always get good ratings
for their outstanding service! As far as myself doing it, no way! I'd
just as soon roll it off a cliff, with me in the driver's seat!


Eugene D'Jeep 05-04-2004 01:37 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Thanks for all the replies. I was thinking of taking it to a
dealership out of town(roughly 50m away). They always get good ratings
for their outstanding service! As far as myself doing it, no way! I'd
just as soon roll it off a cliff, with me in the driver's seat!


Eugene D'Jeep 05-04-2004 01:37 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Thanks for all the replies. I was thinking of taking it to a
dealership out of town(roughly 50m away). They always get good ratings
for their outstanding service! As far as myself doing it, no way! I'd
just as soon roll it off a cliff, with me in the driver's seat!


Eugene D'Jeep 05-04-2004 01:37 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Thanks for all the replies. I was thinking of taking it to a
dealership out of town(roughly 50m away). They always get good ratings
for their outstanding service! As far as myself doing it, no way! I'd
just as soon roll it off a cliff, with me in the driver's seat!


Mike 05-04-2004 10:54 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
How about you roll it to Canada (into my driveway), then you jump over the
cliff of your choice.. lol..

"Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23786-40972C0D-412@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net...
> Thanks for all the replies. I was thinking of taking it to a
> dealership out of town(roughly 50m away). They always get good ratings
> for their outstanding service! As far as myself doing it, no way! I'd
> just as soon roll it off a cliff, with me in the driver's seat!
>




Mike 05-04-2004 10:54 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
How about you roll it to Canada (into my driveway), then you jump over the
cliff of your choice.. lol..

"Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23786-40972C0D-412@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net...
> Thanks for all the replies. I was thinking of taking it to a
> dealership out of town(roughly 50m away). They always get good ratings
> for their outstanding service! As far as myself doing it, no way! I'd
> just as soon roll it off a cliff, with me in the driver's seat!
>




Mike 05-04-2004 10:54 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
How about you roll it to Canada (into my driveway), then you jump over the
cliff of your choice.. lol..

"Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23786-40972C0D-412@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net...
> Thanks for all the replies. I was thinking of taking it to a
> dealership out of town(roughly 50m away). They always get good ratings
> for their outstanding service! As far as myself doing it, no way! I'd
> just as soon roll it off a cliff, with me in the driver's seat!
>




Mike 05-04-2004 10:54 AM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
How about you roll it to Canada (into my driveway), then you jump over the
cliff of your choice.. lol..

"Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23786-40972C0D-412@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net...
> Thanks for all the replies. I was thinking of taking it to a
> dealership out of town(roughly 50m away). They always get good ratings
> for their outstanding service! As far as myself doing it, no way! I'd
> just as soon roll it off a cliff, with me in the driver's seat!
>




Carlo 05-04-2004 12:52 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Exactly what I said the last 5 times this came up...............not
complaining.............happy to get a chance to say it again.......even
happier to see that more people agree with me than I had previously thought.

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:DMDlc.6130$Hs1.3271@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the

mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw

the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.
>
>
> "Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
> > Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> > maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> > date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> > rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> > mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> > I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> > was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> > off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> > oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> > odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> > it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>




Carlo 05-04-2004 12:52 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Exactly what I said the last 5 times this came up...............not
complaining.............happy to get a chance to say it again.......even
happier to see that more people agree with me than I had previously thought.

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:DMDlc.6130$Hs1.3271@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the

mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw

the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.
>
>
> "Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
> > Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> > maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> > date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> > rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> > mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> > I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> > was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> > off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> > oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> > odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> > it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>




Carlo 05-04-2004 12:52 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Exactly what I said the last 5 times this came up...............not
complaining.............happy to get a chance to say it again.......even
happier to see that more people agree with me than I had previously thought.

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:DMDlc.6130$Hs1.3271@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the

mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw

the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.
>
>
> "Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
> > Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> > maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> > date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> > rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> > mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> > I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> > was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> > off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> > oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> > odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> > it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>




Carlo 05-04-2004 12:52 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Exactly what I said the last 5 times this came up...............not
complaining.............happy to get a chance to say it again.......even
happier to see that more people agree with me than I had previously thought.

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:DMDlc.6130$Hs1.3271@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the

mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw

the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.
>
>
> "Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
> > Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
> > maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
> > date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
> > rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
> > mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
> > I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
> > was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
> > off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
> > oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
> > odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
> > it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>




twaldron 05-04-2004 01:18 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
While I think paying "no mind to the mileage" can be a waste, as in some
of the examples in this thread, what Terry does will NEVER hurt
you...unless you forget to put the drain plug back in. You can't change
your oil frequently enough, it's just a matter of what is actually
necessary. Oil does not have an expiration date, it's just a matter of
acidity, dirt, moisture and additive & viscosity breakdown. Use common
sense.

Terry Jeffrey wrote:

> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.
>
>
> "Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
>
>> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
>>maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
>>date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
>>rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
>>mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
>> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
>>was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
>>off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
>>oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
>>odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
>>it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!



--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 05-04-2004 01:18 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
While I think paying "no mind to the mileage" can be a waste, as in some
of the examples in this thread, what Terry does will NEVER hurt
you...unless you forget to put the drain plug back in. You can't change
your oil frequently enough, it's just a matter of what is actually
necessary. Oil does not have an expiration date, it's just a matter of
acidity, dirt, moisture and additive & viscosity breakdown. Use common
sense.

Terry Jeffrey wrote:

> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.
>
>
> "Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
>
>> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
>>maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
>>date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
>>rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
>>mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
>> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
>>was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
>>off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
>>oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
>>odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
>>it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!



--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 05-04-2004 01:18 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
While I think paying "no mind to the mileage" can be a waste, as in some
of the examples in this thread, what Terry does will NEVER hurt
you...unless you forget to put the drain plug back in. You can't change
your oil frequently enough, it's just a matter of what is actually
necessary. Oil does not have an expiration date, it's just a matter of
acidity, dirt, moisture and additive & viscosity breakdown. Use common
sense.

Terry Jeffrey wrote:

> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.
>
>
> "Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
>
>> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
>>maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
>>date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
>>rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
>>mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
>> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
>>was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
>>off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
>>oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
>>odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
>>it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!



--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 05-04-2004 01:18 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
While I think paying "no mind to the mileage" can be a waste, as in some
of the examples in this thread, what Terry does will NEVER hurt
you...unless you forget to put the drain plug back in. You can't change
your oil frequently enough, it's just a matter of what is actually
necessary. Oil does not have an expiration date, it's just a matter of
acidity, dirt, moisture and additive & viscosity breakdown. Use common
sense.

Terry Jeffrey wrote:

> I change mine every 3 months like clock work and pay no mind to the mileage.
> This has worked for me for the last 12.5 years with this engine. Screw the
> dealer; do it yourself.
>
> Terry.
>
>
> "Eugene D'Jeep" <YJHeaven@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13429-4096B8A5-122@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
>
>> Since when does the dealer go by miles in determining scheduled
>>maintenance, and not months? My '02 TJ has very low miles-12,800m from
>>date of purchase(8/02). For that reason, a lot of the time I go by month
>>rather than mileage in determining oil/filter changes. If I went by
>>mileage, the first oil change would have been at least 9 months later!
>> I had a reminder sticker on the windshield for the next change. It
>>was either for 4/04 or 14,100m. I made an appt. for today and dropped it
>>off last night. I picked it up this afternoon, and lo and behold, no
>>oil/filter change. When I asked why, the guy told me that since the
>>odometer was 1500m shy, he didn't see no point in it! I don't believe
>>it! I bought it new there and now I don't feel safe bringing it back!



--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-04-2004 01:28 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Yes, it's kinda like taking a bath, you should take one at least
once a month whether you need one or not.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> While I think paying "no mind to the mileage" can be a waste, as in some
> of the examples in this thread, what Terry does will NEVER hurt
> you...unless you forget to put the drain plug back in. You can't change
> your oil frequently enough, it's just a matter of what is actually
> necessary. Oil does not have an expiration date, it's just a matter of
> acidity, dirt, moisture and additive & viscosity breakdown. Use common
> sense.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-04-2004 01:28 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Yes, it's kinda like taking a bath, you should take one at least
once a month whether you need one or not.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> While I think paying "no mind to the mileage" can be a waste, as in some
> of the examples in this thread, what Terry does will NEVER hurt
> you...unless you forget to put the drain plug back in. You can't change
> your oil frequently enough, it's just a matter of what is actually
> necessary. Oil does not have an expiration date, it's just a matter of
> acidity, dirt, moisture and additive & viscosity breakdown. Use common
> sense.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-04-2004 01:28 PM

Re: Months Or Miles, Whichever Comes First?
 
Yes, it's kinda like taking a bath, you should take one at least
once a month whether you need one or not.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> While I think paying "no mind to the mileage" can be a waste, as in some
> of the examples in this thread, what Terry does will NEVER hurt
> you...unless you forget to put the drain plug back in. You can't change
> your oil frequently enough, it's just a matter of what is actually
> necessary. Oil does not have an expiration date, it's just a matter of
> acidity, dirt, moisture and additive & viscosity breakdown. Use common
> sense.



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