"Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
05-06-2007, 10:26 PM
#61
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
> True
Of course it's true, Llewdellen, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.
You /could/ learn from that, but you won't.
> : http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ipall.ch?ip=66.177.72.128 There's
> nothing in the header that confects with Comcast domain, except previously I
> thought they were all in Canada.
This crapola isn't worth translating.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
And we all know what this hypocrisy is.
BTW, you've been reported for cross posting.
>
>
> "c" <c@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:Pku%h.163628$6m4.142642@pd7urf1no
>>
>> He didn't.
>>
>> He /appears/ to be from around Jacksonville, FL.
05-06-2007, 10:55 PM
#62
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
He didn't, but Colorado is a good example that the EPA isn't all powerful.
"Fined through the nose" just wouldn't happen here.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kvCdnesQr5hN-aPbnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Didn't see where the OP mentioned he was from Colorado.
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote in message
> news:463d5abf$0$31825$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > In Colorado where I live no one would care. Maybe in the polluted Front
> > Range the Colorado Clean Air Program is still active and the monkey
doing
> > the inspection would take a look under the car. Heh heh, who are we
> > kidding
> > here. As far as the DMV going after this guy, c'mon, it's Colorado.
EPA,
> > maybe but he's a private citizen. Do you think they have money to go
> > after
> > every guy who installs a "test pipe" in his vehicle?
> >
> > We have different standards in the far western and eastern parts of the
> > state than in the heavily populated Front Range area. The argument is
> > that
> > the pollution is "diluted" so it is fewer parts per million in the air
we
> > breath. There is no periodic emissions inspection unless you live in
the
> > Front Range including the Peoples' Republics of Denver, Boulder, Fort
> > Collins and Colorado Springs or one of their puppet communities. If you
> > periodically "commute to or reside" in the Front Range area you are
> > supposed
> > to get an inspection, but who do you think does this?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:2rCdnbg81OzqC6HbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> If you really want to buy it, tell the seller if he doesn't sell it to
> >> you
> >> at your named price, with a new cat installed per factory specs you'll
> > take
> >> the VIN and report it to the DMV and EPA, and he'll be fined through
the
> >> nose.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Seriously, though, if you live in a state that requires smog inspection
> >> that's an automatic fail. And if he did that, you have to wonder what
> >> else
> >> this genius has done to it. Did he tell you why he installed a "test
> > pipe?"
> >> If you are going to buy it, you should really have him pay to install
the
> >> cat, as it's illegal to operate it without one.
> >>
> >> As far as the O2 sensors go, you're right, it senses the exhaust gas
mix
> > and
> >> adjusts the fuel delivery parameters (no carb on this one, it's fuel
> >> injected) and the lack of a cat would give false readings and probably
> > screw
> >> up your fuel economy.
> >>
> >> "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8JqdnTFSWoiYCaHbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "What if" I found a 2000 JGC for sale, but the Seller told me
that
> > he
> >> > had "modified" the catalytic converter, by welding in a piece of
> > straight
> >> > pipe in its place ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am not a mechanic, but I seem to recall that there are one or two
> >> > oxygen
> >> > sensors before and after the catalytic converter that feed
information
> > to
> >> > the car's computer, adjusting the carb, etc etc. Are there steps
> >> > that
> >> > can
> >> > be taken to get around this potential problem ?
> >> >
> >> > If this would be a significant problem, should I either avoid buying
> >> > the
> >> > car, or just plan to have a new catalytic converter installed ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What are the pros and cons ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any tips or advice !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > James
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
"Fined through the nose" just wouldn't happen here.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kvCdnesQr5hN-aPbnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Didn't see where the OP mentioned he was from Colorado.
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote in message
> news:463d5abf$0$31825$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > In Colorado where I live no one would care. Maybe in the polluted Front
> > Range the Colorado Clean Air Program is still active and the monkey
doing
> > the inspection would take a look under the car. Heh heh, who are we
> > kidding
> > here. As far as the DMV going after this guy, c'mon, it's Colorado.
EPA,
> > maybe but he's a private citizen. Do you think they have money to go
> > after
> > every guy who installs a "test pipe" in his vehicle?
> >
> > We have different standards in the far western and eastern parts of the
> > state than in the heavily populated Front Range area. The argument is
> > that
> > the pollution is "diluted" so it is fewer parts per million in the air
we
> > breath. There is no periodic emissions inspection unless you live in
the
> > Front Range including the Peoples' Republics of Denver, Boulder, Fort
> > Collins and Colorado Springs or one of their puppet communities. If you
> > periodically "commute to or reside" in the Front Range area you are
> > supposed
> > to get an inspection, but who do you think does this?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:2rCdnbg81OzqC6HbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> If you really want to buy it, tell the seller if he doesn't sell it to
> >> you
> >> at your named price, with a new cat installed per factory specs you'll
> > take
> >> the VIN and report it to the DMV and EPA, and he'll be fined through
the
> >> nose.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Seriously, though, if you live in a state that requires smog inspection
> >> that's an automatic fail. And if he did that, you have to wonder what
> >> else
> >> this genius has done to it. Did he tell you why he installed a "test
> > pipe?"
> >> If you are going to buy it, you should really have him pay to install
the
> >> cat, as it's illegal to operate it without one.
> >>
> >> As far as the O2 sensors go, you're right, it senses the exhaust gas
mix
> > and
> >> adjusts the fuel delivery parameters (no carb on this one, it's fuel
> >> injected) and the lack of a cat would give false readings and probably
> > screw
> >> up your fuel economy.
> >>
> >> "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8JqdnTFSWoiYCaHbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "What if" I found a 2000 JGC for sale, but the Seller told me
that
> > he
> >> > had "modified" the catalytic converter, by welding in a piece of
> > straight
> >> > pipe in its place ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am not a mechanic, but I seem to recall that there are one or two
> >> > oxygen
> >> > sensors before and after the catalytic converter that feed
information
> > to
> >> > the car's computer, adjusting the carb, etc etc. Are there steps
> >> > that
> >> > can
> >> > be taken to get around this potential problem ?
> >> >
> >> > If this would be a significant problem, should I either avoid buying
> >> > the
> >> > car, or just plan to have a new catalytic converter installed ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What are the pros and cons ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any tips or advice !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > James
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
05-06-2007, 10:55 PM
#63
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
He didn't, but Colorado is a good example that the EPA isn't all powerful.
"Fined through the nose" just wouldn't happen here.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kvCdnesQr5hN-aPbnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Didn't see where the OP mentioned he was from Colorado.
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote in message
> news:463d5abf$0$31825$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > In Colorado where I live no one would care. Maybe in the polluted Front
> > Range the Colorado Clean Air Program is still active and the monkey
doing
> > the inspection would take a look under the car. Heh heh, who are we
> > kidding
> > here. As far as the DMV going after this guy, c'mon, it's Colorado.
EPA,
> > maybe but he's a private citizen. Do you think they have money to go
> > after
> > every guy who installs a "test pipe" in his vehicle?
> >
> > We have different standards in the far western and eastern parts of the
> > state than in the heavily populated Front Range area. The argument is
> > that
> > the pollution is "diluted" so it is fewer parts per million in the air
we
> > breath. There is no periodic emissions inspection unless you live in
the
> > Front Range including the Peoples' Republics of Denver, Boulder, Fort
> > Collins and Colorado Springs or one of their puppet communities. If you
> > periodically "commute to or reside" in the Front Range area you are
> > supposed
> > to get an inspection, but who do you think does this?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:2rCdnbg81OzqC6HbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> If you really want to buy it, tell the seller if he doesn't sell it to
> >> you
> >> at your named price, with a new cat installed per factory specs you'll
> > take
> >> the VIN and report it to the DMV and EPA, and he'll be fined through
the
> >> nose.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Seriously, though, if you live in a state that requires smog inspection
> >> that's an automatic fail. And if he did that, you have to wonder what
> >> else
> >> this genius has done to it. Did he tell you why he installed a "test
> > pipe?"
> >> If you are going to buy it, you should really have him pay to install
the
> >> cat, as it's illegal to operate it without one.
> >>
> >> As far as the O2 sensors go, you're right, it senses the exhaust gas
mix
> > and
> >> adjusts the fuel delivery parameters (no carb on this one, it's fuel
> >> injected) and the lack of a cat would give false readings and probably
> > screw
> >> up your fuel economy.
> >>
> >> "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8JqdnTFSWoiYCaHbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "What if" I found a 2000 JGC for sale, but the Seller told me
that
> > he
> >> > had "modified" the catalytic converter, by welding in a piece of
> > straight
> >> > pipe in its place ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am not a mechanic, but I seem to recall that there are one or two
> >> > oxygen
> >> > sensors before and after the catalytic converter that feed
information
> > to
> >> > the car's computer, adjusting the carb, etc etc. Are there steps
> >> > that
> >> > can
> >> > be taken to get around this potential problem ?
> >> >
> >> > If this would be a significant problem, should I either avoid buying
> >> > the
> >> > car, or just plan to have a new catalytic converter installed ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What are the pros and cons ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any tips or advice !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > James
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
"Fined through the nose" just wouldn't happen here.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kvCdnesQr5hN-aPbnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Didn't see where the OP mentioned he was from Colorado.
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote in message
> news:463d5abf$0$31825$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > In Colorado where I live no one would care. Maybe in the polluted Front
> > Range the Colorado Clean Air Program is still active and the monkey
doing
> > the inspection would take a look under the car. Heh heh, who are we
> > kidding
> > here. As far as the DMV going after this guy, c'mon, it's Colorado.
EPA,
> > maybe but he's a private citizen. Do you think they have money to go
> > after
> > every guy who installs a "test pipe" in his vehicle?
> >
> > We have different standards in the far western and eastern parts of the
> > state than in the heavily populated Front Range area. The argument is
> > that
> > the pollution is "diluted" so it is fewer parts per million in the air
we
> > breath. There is no periodic emissions inspection unless you live in
the
> > Front Range including the Peoples' Republics of Denver, Boulder, Fort
> > Collins and Colorado Springs or one of their puppet communities. If you
> > periodically "commute to or reside" in the Front Range area you are
> > supposed
> > to get an inspection, but who do you think does this?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:2rCdnbg81OzqC6HbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> If you really want to buy it, tell the seller if he doesn't sell it to
> >> you
> >> at your named price, with a new cat installed per factory specs you'll
> > take
> >> the VIN and report it to the DMV and EPA, and he'll be fined through
the
> >> nose.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Seriously, though, if you live in a state that requires smog inspection
> >> that's an automatic fail. And if he did that, you have to wonder what
> >> else
> >> this genius has done to it. Did he tell you why he installed a "test
> > pipe?"
> >> If you are going to buy it, you should really have him pay to install
the
> >> cat, as it's illegal to operate it without one.
> >>
> >> As far as the O2 sensors go, you're right, it senses the exhaust gas
mix
> > and
> >> adjusts the fuel delivery parameters (no carb on this one, it's fuel
> >> injected) and the lack of a cat would give false readings and probably
> > screw
> >> up your fuel economy.
> >>
> >> "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8JqdnTFSWoiYCaHbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "What if" I found a 2000 JGC for sale, but the Seller told me
that
> > he
> >> > had "modified" the catalytic converter, by welding in a piece of
> > straight
> >> > pipe in its place ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am not a mechanic, but I seem to recall that there are one or two
> >> > oxygen
> >> > sensors before and after the catalytic converter that feed
information
> > to
> >> > the car's computer, adjusting the carb, etc etc. Are there steps
> >> > that
> >> > can
> >> > be taken to get around this potential problem ?
> >> >
> >> > If this would be a significant problem, should I either avoid buying
> >> > the
> >> > car, or just plan to have a new catalytic converter installed ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What are the pros and cons ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any tips or advice !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > James
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
05-06-2007, 10:55 PM
#64
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
He didn't, but Colorado is a good example that the EPA isn't all powerful.
"Fined through the nose" just wouldn't happen here.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kvCdnesQr5hN-aPbnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Didn't see where the OP mentioned he was from Colorado.
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote in message
> news:463d5abf$0$31825$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > In Colorado where I live no one would care. Maybe in the polluted Front
> > Range the Colorado Clean Air Program is still active and the monkey
doing
> > the inspection would take a look under the car. Heh heh, who are we
> > kidding
> > here. As far as the DMV going after this guy, c'mon, it's Colorado.
EPA,
> > maybe but he's a private citizen. Do you think they have money to go
> > after
> > every guy who installs a "test pipe" in his vehicle?
> >
> > We have different standards in the far western and eastern parts of the
> > state than in the heavily populated Front Range area. The argument is
> > that
> > the pollution is "diluted" so it is fewer parts per million in the air
we
> > breath. There is no periodic emissions inspection unless you live in
the
> > Front Range including the Peoples' Republics of Denver, Boulder, Fort
> > Collins and Colorado Springs or one of their puppet communities. If you
> > periodically "commute to or reside" in the Front Range area you are
> > supposed
> > to get an inspection, but who do you think does this?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:2rCdnbg81OzqC6HbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> If you really want to buy it, tell the seller if he doesn't sell it to
> >> you
> >> at your named price, with a new cat installed per factory specs you'll
> > take
> >> the VIN and report it to the DMV and EPA, and he'll be fined through
the
> >> nose.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Seriously, though, if you live in a state that requires smog inspection
> >> that's an automatic fail. And if he did that, you have to wonder what
> >> else
> >> this genius has done to it. Did he tell you why he installed a "test
> > pipe?"
> >> If you are going to buy it, you should really have him pay to install
the
> >> cat, as it's illegal to operate it without one.
> >>
> >> As far as the O2 sensors go, you're right, it senses the exhaust gas
mix
> > and
> >> adjusts the fuel delivery parameters (no carb on this one, it's fuel
> >> injected) and the lack of a cat would give false readings and probably
> > screw
> >> up your fuel economy.
> >>
> >> "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8JqdnTFSWoiYCaHbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "What if" I found a 2000 JGC for sale, but the Seller told me
that
> > he
> >> > had "modified" the catalytic converter, by welding in a piece of
> > straight
> >> > pipe in its place ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am not a mechanic, but I seem to recall that there are one or two
> >> > oxygen
> >> > sensors before and after the catalytic converter that feed
information
> > to
> >> > the car's computer, adjusting the carb, etc etc. Are there steps
> >> > that
> >> > can
> >> > be taken to get around this potential problem ?
> >> >
> >> > If this would be a significant problem, should I either avoid buying
> >> > the
> >> > car, or just plan to have a new catalytic converter installed ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What are the pros and cons ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any tips or advice !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > James
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
"Fined through the nose" just wouldn't happen here.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kvCdnesQr5hN-aPbnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Didn't see where the OP mentioned he was from Colorado.
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote in message
> news:463d5abf$0$31825$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > In Colorado where I live no one would care. Maybe in the polluted Front
> > Range the Colorado Clean Air Program is still active and the monkey
doing
> > the inspection would take a look under the car. Heh heh, who are we
> > kidding
> > here. As far as the DMV going after this guy, c'mon, it's Colorado.
EPA,
> > maybe but he's a private citizen. Do you think they have money to go
> > after
> > every guy who installs a "test pipe" in his vehicle?
> >
> > We have different standards in the far western and eastern parts of the
> > state than in the heavily populated Front Range area. The argument is
> > that
> > the pollution is "diluted" so it is fewer parts per million in the air
we
> > breath. There is no periodic emissions inspection unless you live in
the
> > Front Range including the Peoples' Republics of Denver, Boulder, Fort
> > Collins and Colorado Springs or one of their puppet communities. If you
> > periodically "commute to or reside" in the Front Range area you are
> > supposed
> > to get an inspection, but who do you think does this?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:2rCdnbg81OzqC6HbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> If you really want to buy it, tell the seller if he doesn't sell it to
> >> you
> >> at your named price, with a new cat installed per factory specs you'll
> > take
> >> the VIN and report it to the DMV and EPA, and he'll be fined through
the
> >> nose.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Seriously, though, if you live in a state that requires smog inspection
> >> that's an automatic fail. And if he did that, you have to wonder what
> >> else
> >> this genius has done to it. Did he tell you why he installed a "test
> > pipe?"
> >> If you are going to buy it, you should really have him pay to install
the
> >> cat, as it's illegal to operate it without one.
> >>
> >> As far as the O2 sensors go, you're right, it senses the exhaust gas
mix
> > and
> >> adjusts the fuel delivery parameters (no carb on this one, it's fuel
> >> injected) and the lack of a cat would give false readings and probably
> > screw
> >> up your fuel economy.
> >>
> >> "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8JqdnTFSWoiYCaHbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "What if" I found a 2000 JGC for sale, but the Seller told me
that
> > he
> >> > had "modified" the catalytic converter, by welding in a piece of
> > straight
> >> > pipe in its place ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am not a mechanic, but I seem to recall that there are one or two
> >> > oxygen
> >> > sensors before and after the catalytic converter that feed
information
> > to
> >> > the car's computer, adjusting the carb, etc etc. Are there steps
> >> > that
> >> > can
> >> > be taken to get around this potential problem ?
> >> >
> >> > If this would be a significant problem, should I either avoid buying
> >> > the
> >> > car, or just plan to have a new catalytic converter installed ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What are the pros and cons ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any tips or advice !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > James
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
05-06-2007, 10:55 PM
#65
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
He didn't, but Colorado is a good example that the EPA isn't all powerful.
"Fined through the nose" just wouldn't happen here.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kvCdnesQr5hN-aPbnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Didn't see where the OP mentioned he was from Colorado.
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote in message
> news:463d5abf$0$31825$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > In Colorado where I live no one would care. Maybe in the polluted Front
> > Range the Colorado Clean Air Program is still active and the monkey
doing
> > the inspection would take a look under the car. Heh heh, who are we
> > kidding
> > here. As far as the DMV going after this guy, c'mon, it's Colorado.
EPA,
> > maybe but he's a private citizen. Do you think they have money to go
> > after
> > every guy who installs a "test pipe" in his vehicle?
> >
> > We have different standards in the far western and eastern parts of the
> > state than in the heavily populated Front Range area. The argument is
> > that
> > the pollution is "diluted" so it is fewer parts per million in the air
we
> > breath. There is no periodic emissions inspection unless you live in
the
> > Front Range including the Peoples' Republics of Denver, Boulder, Fort
> > Collins and Colorado Springs or one of their puppet communities. If you
> > periodically "commute to or reside" in the Front Range area you are
> > supposed
> > to get an inspection, but who do you think does this?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:2rCdnbg81OzqC6HbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> If you really want to buy it, tell the seller if he doesn't sell it to
> >> you
> >> at your named price, with a new cat installed per factory specs you'll
> > take
> >> the VIN and report it to the DMV and EPA, and he'll be fined through
the
> >> nose.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Seriously, though, if you live in a state that requires smog inspection
> >> that's an automatic fail. And if he did that, you have to wonder what
> >> else
> >> this genius has done to it. Did he tell you why he installed a "test
> > pipe?"
> >> If you are going to buy it, you should really have him pay to install
the
> >> cat, as it's illegal to operate it without one.
> >>
> >> As far as the O2 sensors go, you're right, it senses the exhaust gas
mix
> > and
> >> adjusts the fuel delivery parameters (no carb on this one, it's fuel
> >> injected) and the lack of a cat would give false readings and probably
> > screw
> >> up your fuel economy.
> >>
> >> "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8JqdnTFSWoiYCaHbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "What if" I found a 2000 JGC for sale, but the Seller told me
that
> > he
> >> > had "modified" the catalytic converter, by welding in a piece of
> > straight
> >> > pipe in its place ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am not a mechanic, but I seem to recall that there are one or two
> >> > oxygen
> >> > sensors before and after the catalytic converter that feed
information
> > to
> >> > the car's computer, adjusting the carb, etc etc. Are there steps
> >> > that
> >> > can
> >> > be taken to get around this potential problem ?
> >> >
> >> > If this would be a significant problem, should I either avoid buying
> >> > the
> >> > car, or just plan to have a new catalytic converter installed ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What are the pros and cons ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any tips or advice !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > James
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
"Fined through the nose" just wouldn't happen here.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kvCdnesQr5hN-aPbnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Didn't see where the OP mentioned he was from Colorado.
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote in message
> news:463d5abf$0$31825$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > In Colorado where I live no one would care. Maybe in the polluted Front
> > Range the Colorado Clean Air Program is still active and the monkey
doing
> > the inspection would take a look under the car. Heh heh, who are we
> > kidding
> > here. As far as the DMV going after this guy, c'mon, it's Colorado.
EPA,
> > maybe but he's a private citizen. Do you think they have money to go
> > after
> > every guy who installs a "test pipe" in his vehicle?
> >
> > We have different standards in the far western and eastern parts of the
> > state than in the heavily populated Front Range area. The argument is
> > that
> > the pollution is "diluted" so it is fewer parts per million in the air
we
> > breath. There is no periodic emissions inspection unless you live in
the
> > Front Range including the Peoples' Republics of Denver, Boulder, Fort
> > Collins and Colorado Springs or one of their puppet communities. If you
> > periodically "commute to or reside" in the Front Range area you are
> > supposed
> > to get an inspection, but who do you think does this?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:2rCdnbg81OzqC6HbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> If you really want to buy it, tell the seller if he doesn't sell it to
> >> you
> >> at your named price, with a new cat installed per factory specs you'll
> > take
> >> the VIN and report it to the DMV and EPA, and he'll be fined through
the
> >> nose.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Seriously, though, if you live in a state that requires smog inspection
> >> that's an automatic fail. And if he did that, you have to wonder what
> >> else
> >> this genius has done to it. Did he tell you why he installed a "test
> > pipe?"
> >> If you are going to buy it, you should really have him pay to install
the
> >> cat, as it's illegal to operate it without one.
> >>
> >> As far as the O2 sensors go, you're right, it senses the exhaust gas
mix
> > and
> >> adjusts the fuel delivery parameters (no carb on this one, it's fuel
> >> injected) and the lack of a cat would give false readings and probably
> > screw
> >> up your fuel economy.
> >>
> >> "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8JqdnTFSWoiYCaHbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "What if" I found a 2000 JGC for sale, but the Seller told me
that
> > he
> >> > had "modified" the catalytic converter, by welding in a piece of
> > straight
> >> > pipe in its place ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am not a mechanic, but I seem to recall that there are one or two
> >> > oxygen
> >> > sensors before and after the catalytic converter that feed
information
> > to
> >> > the car's computer, adjusting the carb, etc etc. Are there steps
> >> > that
> >> > can
> >> > be taken to get around this potential problem ?
> >> >
> >> > If this would be a significant problem, should I either avoid buying
> >> > the
> >> > car, or just plan to have a new catalytic converter installed ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What are the pros and cons ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any tips or advice !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > James
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
05-06-2007, 11:22 PM
#66
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
And so have you, draft dodging coward in Vancouver:
internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"c" <c@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:R7w%h.163293$DE1.64686@pd7urf2no...
>
> Of course it's true, Llewdellen, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.
>
> You /could/ learn from that, but you won't.
>
> This crapola isn't worth translating.
> And we all know what this hypocrisy is.
>
>
> BTW, you've been reported for cross posting.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"c" <c@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:R7w%h.163293$DE1.64686@pd7urf2no...
>
> Of course it's true, Llewdellen, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.
>
> You /could/ learn from that, but you won't.
>
> This crapola isn't worth translating.
> And we all know what this hypocrisy is.
>
>
> BTW, you've been reported for cross posting.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
05-06-2007, 11:22 PM
#67
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
And so have you, draft dodging coward in Vancouver:
internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"c" <c@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:R7w%h.163293$DE1.64686@pd7urf2no...
>
> Of course it's true, Llewdellen, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.
>
> You /could/ learn from that, but you won't.
>
> This crapola isn't worth translating.
> And we all know what this hypocrisy is.
>
>
> BTW, you've been reported for cross posting.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"c" <c@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:R7w%h.163293$DE1.64686@pd7urf2no...
>
> Of course it's true, Llewdellen, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.
>
> You /could/ learn from that, but you won't.
>
> This crapola isn't worth translating.
> And we all know what this hypocrisy is.
>
>
> BTW, you've been reported for cross posting.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
05-06-2007, 11:22 PM
#68
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
And so have you, draft dodging coward in Vancouver:
internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"c" <c@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:R7w%h.163293$DE1.64686@pd7urf2no...
>
> Of course it's true, Llewdellen, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.
>
> You /could/ learn from that, but you won't.
>
> This crapola isn't worth translating.
> And we all know what this hypocrisy is.
>
>
> BTW, you've been reported for cross posting.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"c" <c@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:R7w%h.163293$DE1.64686@pd7urf2no...
>
> Of course it's true, Llewdellen, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.
>
> You /could/ learn from that, but you won't.
>
> This crapola isn't worth translating.
> And we all know what this hypocrisy is.
>
>
> BTW, you've been reported for cross posting.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
05-06-2007, 11:22 PM
#69
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
And so have you, draft dodging coward in Vancouver:
internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"c" <c@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:R7w%h.163293$DE1.64686@pd7urf2no...
>
> Of course it's true, Llewdellen, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.
>
> You /could/ learn from that, but you won't.
>
> This crapola isn't worth translating.
> And we all know what this hypocrisy is.
>
>
> BTW, you've been reported for cross posting.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
internet.help@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"c" <c@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:R7w%h.163293$DE1.64686@pd7urf2no...
>
> Of course it's true, Llewdellen, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.
>
> You /could/ learn from that, but you won't.
>
> This crapola isn't worth translating.
> And we all know what this hypocrisy is.
>
>
> BTW, you've been reported for cross posting.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
05-06-2007, 11:33 PM
#70
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
"c" <c@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:R7w%h.163293$DE1.64686@pd7urf2no...
>
>
> BTW, you've been reported for cross posting.
>
>
Nobody cares about cross posting a reply to a post that was cross posted
originally, unless the person that replies adds new groups to the cross
post.
I'm not sure what your beef is with Bill, but clearly you are an idiot. Take
a chill pill and a shot of Scotch ...
