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Mobile 1 Extended Performance
I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear
about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet the GF-4 specs. Or does it not really make that much difference? 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. Thank you, Campbell C Freeman Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
In the words of Jeff Strickland... "snake oil" & extended performance "snake
oil". IMO, if you change the oil and filter regularly, the oil you use makes no difference. (let the flames begin) -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift "Campbell C Freeman" wrote in message ... > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > the GF-4 specs. > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > Thank you, > Campbell C Freeman > Columbia, SC > > |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
In the words of Jeff Strickland... "snake oil" & extended performance "snake
oil". IMO, if you change the oil and filter regularly, the oil you use makes no difference. (let the flames begin) -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift "Campbell C Freeman" wrote in message ... > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > the GF-4 specs. > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > Thank you, > Campbell C Freeman > Columbia, SC > > |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
In the words of Jeff Strickland... "snake oil" & extended performance "snake
oil". IMO, if you change the oil and filter regularly, the oil you use makes no difference. (let the flames begin) -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift "Campbell C Freeman" wrote in message ... > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > the GF-4 specs. > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > Thank you, > Campbell C Freeman > Columbia, SC > > |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
and anyway... what do you mean "I have been pleased with the performance of
Mobile 1"? Do you have the used oil tested after removal? Does it make the Jeep run better? Or what? JimG "Campbell C Freeman" wrote in message ... > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
and anyway... what do you mean "I have been pleased with the performance of
Mobile 1"? Do you have the used oil tested after removal? Does it make the Jeep run better? Or what? JimG "Campbell C Freeman" wrote in message ... > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
and anyway... what do you mean "I have been pleased with the performance of
Mobile 1"? Do you have the used oil tested after removal? Does it make the Jeep run better? Or what? JimG "Campbell C Freeman" wrote in message ... > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know
which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is invincible. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > the GF-4 specs. > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > Thank you, > Campbell C Freeman > Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know
which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is invincible. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > the GF-4 specs. > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > Thank you, > Campbell C Freeman > Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know
which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is invincible. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > the GF-4 specs. > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > Thank you, > Campbell C Freeman > Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Nice to have such positive comments.
I never said or implied that the oil I was/am using is "invincible." I just made the comment that I have been pleased with it (Mobile1). I think I will just take a break from the group. Too much negativity. Did you even see or read the "disclaimer?" <"Or does it not really make that much difference?"> You ask a simple question or make a comment and you get blasted. I see it over and over and over again. I thought the purpose of the newsgroup was to be helpful, give and offer advice, and ask questions. Guess I just don't get it. I regret even having made the original post. jeeezzzz C Freeman "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > invincible. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ >> the >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> Thank you, >> Campbell C Freeman >> Columbia, SC "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > invincible. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ >> the >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> Thank you, >> Campbell C Freeman >> Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Nice to have such positive comments.
I never said or implied that the oil I was/am using is "invincible." I just made the comment that I have been pleased with it (Mobile1). I think I will just take a break from the group. Too much negativity. Did you even see or read the "disclaimer?" <"Or does it not really make that much difference?"> You ask a simple question or make a comment and you get blasted. I see it over and over and over again. I thought the purpose of the newsgroup was to be helpful, give and offer advice, and ask questions. Guess I just don't get it. I regret even having made the original post. jeeezzzz C Freeman "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > invincible. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ >> the >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> Thank you, >> Campbell C Freeman >> Columbia, SC "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > invincible. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ >> the >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> Thank you, >> Campbell C Freeman >> Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Nice to have such positive comments.
I never said or implied that the oil I was/am using is "invincible." I just made the comment that I have been pleased with it (Mobile1). I think I will just take a break from the group. Too much negativity. Did you even see or read the "disclaimer?" <"Or does it not really make that much difference?"> You ask a simple question or make a comment and you get blasted. I see it over and over and over again. I thought the purpose of the newsgroup was to be helpful, give and offer advice, and ask questions. Guess I just don't get it. I regret even having made the original post. jeeezzzz C Freeman "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > invincible. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ >> the >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> Thank you, >> Campbell C Freeman >> Columbia, SC "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > invincible. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ >> the >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> Thank you, >> Campbell C Freeman >> Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Sorry man but the last person I know to make claims about how long
between oil changes 'he' could go ended up with the oil pressure 'mysteriously' pegged out and upon inspection we found 6" of solid black goo inside his oil pan.... He then promptly sold the truck to some unsuspecting fool while still making 'great' oil comments.... Oh, I think if you look, the castrol is 'fake' synthetic, (could be wrong there) with a high price because of the name not the original synthetic like Mobile uses in 'some' of it's oils. The oil companies made the word 'synthetic' a buzz word that actually only means it costs more, nothing else. They took the 'real' 'synthetic' oil makers to court over the definition and won. Mike Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > Nice to have such positive comments. > > I never said or implied that the oil I was/am using is "invincible." I just > made the comment that I have been pleased with it (Mobile1). > > I think I will just take a break from the group. Too much negativity. > > Did you even see or read the "disclaimer?" <"Or does it not really make > that much difference?"> > > You ask a simple question or make a comment and you get blasted. I see it > over and over and over again. I thought the purpose of the newsgroup was to > be helpful, give and offer advice, and ask questions. > > Guess I just don't get it. > > I regret even having made the original post. > > jeeezzzz > > C Freeman > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > > invincible. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >> > >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > >> > >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > >> the GF-4 specs. > >> > >> Or does it not really make that much difference? > >> > >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ > >> the > >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Campbell C Freeman > >> Columbia, SC > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > > invincible. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >> > >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > >> > >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > >> the GF-4 specs. > >> > >> Or does it not really make that much difference? > >> > >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ > >> the > >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Campbell C Freeman > >> Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Sorry man but the last person I know to make claims about how long
between oil changes 'he' could go ended up with the oil pressure 'mysteriously' pegged out and upon inspection we found 6" of solid black goo inside his oil pan.... He then promptly sold the truck to some unsuspecting fool while still making 'great' oil comments.... Oh, I think if you look, the castrol is 'fake' synthetic, (could be wrong there) with a high price because of the name not the original synthetic like Mobile uses in 'some' of it's oils. The oil companies made the word 'synthetic' a buzz word that actually only means it costs more, nothing else. They took the 'real' 'synthetic' oil makers to court over the definition and won. Mike Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > Nice to have such positive comments. > > I never said or implied that the oil I was/am using is "invincible." I just > made the comment that I have been pleased with it (Mobile1). > > I think I will just take a break from the group. Too much negativity. > > Did you even see or read the "disclaimer?" <"Or does it not really make > that much difference?"> > > You ask a simple question or make a comment and you get blasted. I see it > over and over and over again. I thought the purpose of the newsgroup was to > be helpful, give and offer advice, and ask questions. > > Guess I just don't get it. > > I regret even having made the original post. > > jeeezzzz > > C Freeman > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > > invincible. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >> > >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > >> > >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > >> the GF-4 specs. > >> > >> Or does it not really make that much difference? > >> > >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ > >> the > >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Campbell C Freeman > >> Columbia, SC > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > > invincible. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >> > >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > >> > >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > >> the GF-4 specs. > >> > >> Or does it not really make that much difference? > >> > >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ > >> the > >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Campbell C Freeman > >> Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Sorry man but the last person I know to make claims about how long
between oil changes 'he' could go ended up with the oil pressure 'mysteriously' pegged out and upon inspection we found 6" of solid black goo inside his oil pan.... He then promptly sold the truck to some unsuspecting fool while still making 'great' oil comments.... Oh, I think if you look, the castrol is 'fake' synthetic, (could be wrong there) with a high price because of the name not the original synthetic like Mobile uses in 'some' of it's oils. The oil companies made the word 'synthetic' a buzz word that actually only means it costs more, nothing else. They took the 'real' 'synthetic' oil makers to court over the definition and won. Mike Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > Nice to have such positive comments. > > I never said or implied that the oil I was/am using is "invincible." I just > made the comment that I have been pleased with it (Mobile1). > > I think I will just take a break from the group. Too much negativity. > > Did you even see or read the "disclaimer?" <"Or does it not really make > that much difference?"> > > You ask a simple question or make a comment and you get blasted. I see it > over and over and over again. I thought the purpose of the newsgroup was to > be helpful, give and offer advice, and ask questions. > > Guess I just don't get it. > > I regret even having made the original post. > > jeeezzzz > > C Freeman > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > > invincible. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >> > >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > >> > >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > >> the GF-4 specs. > >> > >> Or does it not really make that much difference? > >> > >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ > >> the > >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Campbell C Freeman > >> Columbia, SC > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... > > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > > invincible. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >> > >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > >> > >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > >> the GF-4 specs. > >> > >> Or does it not really make that much difference? > >> > >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ > >> the > >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Campbell C Freeman > >> Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
I'm confused Mike, does Campbell somewhere say he did extended interval
oil changes? Jerry Mike Romain wrote: > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > invincible. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >>I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear >>about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I >>found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification >>while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >>specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >>I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet >>the GF-4 specs. >> >>Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >>2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the >>performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >>Thank you, >>Campbell C Freeman >>Columbia, SC -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
I'm confused Mike, does Campbell somewhere say he did extended interval
oil changes? Jerry Mike Romain wrote: > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > invincible. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >>I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear >>about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I >>found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification >>while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >>specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >>I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet >>the GF-4 specs. >> >>Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >>2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the >>performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >>Thank you, >>Campbell C Freeman >>Columbia, SC -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
I'm confused Mike, does Campbell somewhere say he did extended interval
oil changes? Jerry Mike Romain wrote: > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... > > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is > invincible. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >>I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear >>about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I >>found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification >>while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >>specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >>I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet >>the GF-4 specs. >> >>Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >>2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the >>performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >>Thank you, >>Campbell C Freeman >>Columbia, SC -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" I never said
anything about "...how long (I) could go between oil changes..." OR about the so-called "invincibility" to which you refer, but I have already commented about that. BTW...both Castrol Syntec & Mobile1 are fully synthetic oils, as are Red Line and Amsoil. I do use synthetic and I am not ashamed to do so. My Jeep Wrangler Sport is a 2001 (bought new in May 2001), and only has 23,000 miles. I never go past 3 - 3.5 K on the "oil." This averages to under 20 miles a day (roughly)...98% city driving...which means I can go up to 6 months between oil changes. That is one of the reasons why I use synthetic oil. It is also my choice to do so...like it or not...agree with it or not. I give up. Please disregard my original post entirely. Campbell Freeman And thanks Jerry Bransford. I always appreciate your posts, knowledge, measured approach, and advice. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A3B7A.59BA5AF3@sympatico.ca... > Sorry man but the last person I know to make claims about how long > between oil changes 'he' could go ended up with the oil pressure > 'mysteriously' pegged out and upon inspection we found 6" of solid black > goo inside his oil pan.... > > He then promptly sold the truck to some unsuspecting fool while still > making 'great' oil comments.... > > Oh, I think if you look, the castrol is 'fake' synthetic, (could be > wrong there) with a high price because of the name not the original > synthetic like Mobile uses in 'some' of it's oils. > > The oil companies made the word 'synthetic' a buzz word that actually > only means it costs more, nothing else. They took the 'real' > 'synthetic' oil makers to court over the definition and won. > > Mike > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> Nice to have such positive comments. >> >> I never said or implied that the oil I was/am using is "invincible." I >> just >> made the comment that I have been pleased with it (Mobile1). >> >> I think I will just take a break from the group. Too much negativity. >> >> Did you even see or read the "disclaimer?" <"Or does it not really make >> that much difference?"> >> >> You ask a simple question or make a comment and you get blasted. I see >> it >> over and over and over again. I thought the purpose of the newsgroup was >> to >> be helpful, give and offer advice, and ask questions. >> >> Guess I just don't get it. >> >> I regret even having made the original post. >> >> jeeezzzz >> >> C Freeman >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... >> > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know >> > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... >> > >> > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is >> > invincible. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > >> > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to >> >> hear >> >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. >> >> What I >> >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 >> >> Certification >> >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does >> >> meet >> >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased >> >> w/ >> >> the >> >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Campbell C Freeman >> >> Columbia, SC >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... >> > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know >> > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... >> > >> > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is >> > invincible. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > >> > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to >> >> hear >> >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. >> >> What I >> >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 >> >> Certification >> >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does >> >> meet >> >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased >> >> w/ >> >> the >> >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Campbell C Freeman >> >> Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" I never said
anything about "...how long (I) could go between oil changes..." OR about the so-called "invincibility" to which you refer, but I have already commented about that. BTW...both Castrol Syntec & Mobile1 are fully synthetic oils, as are Red Line and Amsoil. I do use synthetic and I am not ashamed to do so. My Jeep Wrangler Sport is a 2001 (bought new in May 2001), and only has 23,000 miles. I never go past 3 - 3.5 K on the "oil." This averages to under 20 miles a day (roughly)...98% city driving...which means I can go up to 6 months between oil changes. That is one of the reasons why I use synthetic oil. It is also my choice to do so...like it or not...agree with it or not. I give up. Please disregard my original post entirely. Campbell Freeman And thanks Jerry Bransford. I always appreciate your posts, knowledge, measured approach, and advice. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A3B7A.59BA5AF3@sympatico.ca... > Sorry man but the last person I know to make claims about how long > between oil changes 'he' could go ended up with the oil pressure > 'mysteriously' pegged out and upon inspection we found 6" of solid black > goo inside his oil pan.... > > He then promptly sold the truck to some unsuspecting fool while still > making 'great' oil comments.... > > Oh, I think if you look, the castrol is 'fake' synthetic, (could be > wrong there) with a high price because of the name not the original > synthetic like Mobile uses in 'some' of it's oils. > > The oil companies made the word 'synthetic' a buzz word that actually > only means it costs more, nothing else. They took the 'real' > 'synthetic' oil makers to court over the definition and won. > > Mike > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> Nice to have such positive comments. >> >> I never said or implied that the oil I was/am using is "invincible." I >> just >> made the comment that I have been pleased with it (Mobile1). >> >> I think I will just take a break from the group. Too much negativity. >> >> Did you even see or read the "disclaimer?" <"Or does it not really make >> that much difference?"> >> >> You ask a simple question or make a comment and you get blasted. I see >> it >> over and over and over again. I thought the purpose of the newsgroup was >> to >> be helpful, give and offer advice, and ask questions. >> >> Guess I just don't get it. >> >> I regret even having made the original post. >> >> jeeezzzz >> >> C Freeman >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... >> > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know >> > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... >> > >> > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is >> > invincible. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > >> > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to >> >> hear >> >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. >> >> What I >> >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 >> >> Certification >> >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does >> >> meet >> >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased >> >> w/ >> >> the >> >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Campbell C Freeman >> >> Columbia, SC >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... >> > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know >> > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... >> > >> > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is >> > invincible. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > >> > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to >> >> hear >> >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. >> >> What I >> >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 >> >> Certification >> >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does >> >> meet >> >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased >> >> w/ >> >> the >> >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Campbell C Freeman >> >> Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" I never said
anything about "...how long (I) could go between oil changes..." OR about the so-called "invincibility" to which you refer, but I have already commented about that. BTW...both Castrol Syntec & Mobile1 are fully synthetic oils, as are Red Line and Amsoil. I do use synthetic and I am not ashamed to do so. My Jeep Wrangler Sport is a 2001 (bought new in May 2001), and only has 23,000 miles. I never go past 3 - 3.5 K on the "oil." This averages to under 20 miles a day (roughly)...98% city driving...which means I can go up to 6 months between oil changes. That is one of the reasons why I use synthetic oil. It is also my choice to do so...like it or not...agree with it or not. I give up. Please disregard my original post entirely. Campbell Freeman And thanks Jerry Bransford. I always appreciate your posts, knowledge, measured approach, and advice. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A3B7A.59BA5AF3@sympatico.ca... > Sorry man but the last person I know to make claims about how long > between oil changes 'he' could go ended up with the oil pressure > 'mysteriously' pegged out and upon inspection we found 6" of solid black > goo inside his oil pan.... > > He then promptly sold the truck to some unsuspecting fool while still > making 'great' oil comments.... > > Oh, I think if you look, the castrol is 'fake' synthetic, (could be > wrong there) with a high price because of the name not the original > synthetic like Mobile uses in 'some' of it's oils. > > The oil companies made the word 'synthetic' a buzz word that actually > only means it costs more, nothing else. They took the 'real' > 'synthetic' oil makers to court over the definition and won. > > Mike > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> Nice to have such positive comments. >> >> I never said or implied that the oil I was/am using is "invincible." I >> just >> made the comment that I have been pleased with it (Mobile1). >> >> I think I will just take a break from the group. Too much negativity. >> >> Did you even see or read the "disclaimer?" <"Or does it not really make >> that much difference?"> >> >> You ask a simple question or make a comment and you get blasted. I see >> it >> over and over and over again. I thought the purpose of the newsgroup was >> to >> be helpful, give and offer advice, and ask questions. >> >> Guess I just don't get it. >> >> I regret even having made the original post. >> >> jeeezzzz >> >> C Freeman >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... >> > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know >> > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... >> > >> > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is >> > invincible. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > >> > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to >> >> hear >> >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. >> >> What I >> >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 >> >> Certification >> >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does >> >> meet >> >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased >> >> w/ >> >> the >> >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Campbell C Freeman >> >> Columbia, SC >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> news:420A276C.4676FEF0@sympatico.ca... >> > Please let us know where you live and the color of your Jeep so we know >> > which one to avoid when it comes up for sale.... >> > >> > Nothing kills an engine faster than someone who thinks their oil is >> > invincible. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > >> > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> >> >> I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to >> >> hear >> >> about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. >> >> What I >> >> found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 >> >> Certification >> >> while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these >> >> specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? >> >> >> >> I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does >> >> meet >> >> the GF-4 specs. >> >> >> >> Or does it not really make that much difference? >> >> >> >> 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased >> >> w/ >> >> the >> >> performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Campbell C Freeman >> >> Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Campbell C Freeman wrote:
> > Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" Not well enough I guess, sorry... Mike |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Campbell C Freeman wrote:
> > Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" Not well enough I guess, sorry... Mike |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Campbell C Freeman wrote:
> > Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" Not well enough I guess, sorry... Mike |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
No problem.
I'm just a 50 year old guy in SC who has wanted a Jeep since he was a child, playing "Army." Now I finally have one...a "real" one (boy, that will likely start it up again), and I love it, and I want to keep it as long as I can. And who knows, I may get "run over by a bus" on the way home today. I hope not, but if I do, then none of this will have mattered anyway... Thanks, Campbell Freeman "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A598A.4348A499@sympatico.ca... > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" > > Not well enough I guess, sorry... > > Mike |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
No problem.
I'm just a 50 year old guy in SC who has wanted a Jeep since he was a child, playing "Army." Now I finally have one...a "real" one (boy, that will likely start it up again), and I love it, and I want to keep it as long as I can. And who knows, I may get "run over by a bus" on the way home today. I hope not, but if I do, then none of this will have mattered anyway... Thanks, Campbell Freeman "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A598A.4348A499@sympatico.ca... > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" > > Not well enough I guess, sorry... > > Mike |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
No problem.
I'm just a 50 year old guy in SC who has wanted a Jeep since he was a child, playing "Army." Now I finally have one...a "real" one (boy, that will likely start it up again), and I love it, and I want to keep it as long as I can. And who knows, I may get "run over by a bus" on the way home today. I hope not, but if I do, then none of this will have mattered anyway... Thanks, Campbell Freeman "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:420A598A.4348A499@sympatico.ca... > Campbell C Freeman wrote: >> >> Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" > > Not well enough I guess, sorry... > > Mike |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Unfortunately my mind doesn't track straight all the time these days,
too many pills. Not sure what set me off on that one.... Mike Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > No problem. > > I'm just a 50 year old guy in SC who has wanted a Jeep since he was a child, > playing "Army." Now I finally have one...a "real" one (boy, that will > likely start it up again), and I love it, and I want to keep it as long as I > can. > > And who knows, I may get "run over by a bus" on the way home today. I hope > not, but if I do, then none of this will have mattered anyway... > > Thanks, > > Campbell Freeman > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:420A598A.4348A499@sympatico.ca... > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >> > >> Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" > > > > Not well enough I guess, sorry... > > > > Mike |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Unfortunately my mind doesn't track straight all the time these days,
too many pills. Not sure what set me off on that one.... Mike Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > No problem. > > I'm just a 50 year old guy in SC who has wanted a Jeep since he was a child, > playing "Army." Now I finally have one...a "real" one (boy, that will > likely start it up again), and I love it, and I want to keep it as long as I > can. > > And who knows, I may get "run over by a bus" on the way home today. I hope > not, but if I do, then none of this will have mattered anyway... > > Thanks, > > Campbell Freeman > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:420A598A.4348A499@sympatico.ca... > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >> > >> Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" > > > > Not well enough I guess, sorry... > > > > Mike |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Unfortunately my mind doesn't track straight all the time these days,
too many pills. Not sure what set me off on that one.... Mike Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > No problem. > > I'm just a 50 year old guy in SC who has wanted a Jeep since he was a child, > playing "Army." Now I finally have one...a "real" one (boy, that will > likely start it up again), and I love it, and I want to keep it as long as I > can. > > And who knows, I may get "run over by a bus" on the way home today. I hope > not, but if I do, then none of this will have mattered anyway... > > Thanks, > > Campbell Freeman > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:420A598A.4348A499@sympatico.ca... > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > >> > >> Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" > > > > Not well enough I guess, sorry... > > > > Mike |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Hi Campbell,
You use the word "synthetic" as if it's not a petroleum product. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" I never said > anything about "...how long (I) could go between oil changes..." OR about > the so-called "invincibility" to which you refer, but I have already > commented about that. > > BTW...both Castrol Syntec & Mobile1 are fully synthetic oils, as are Red > Line and Amsoil. > > I do use synthetic and I am not ashamed to do so. My Jeep Wrangler Sport is > a 2001 (bought new in May 2001), and only has 23,000 miles. I never go past > 3 - 3.5 K on the "oil." This averages to under 20 miles a day > (roughly)...98% city driving...which means I can go up to 6 months between > oil changes. That is one of the reasons why I use synthetic oil. It is > also my choice to do so...like it or not...agree with it or not. > > I give up. Please disregard my original post entirely. > > Campbell Freeman > > And thanks Jerry Bransford. I always appreciate your posts, knowledge, > measured approach, and advice. |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Hi Campbell,
You use the word "synthetic" as if it's not a petroleum product. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" I never said > anything about "...how long (I) could go between oil changes..." OR about > the so-called "invincibility" to which you refer, but I have already > commented about that. > > BTW...both Castrol Syntec & Mobile1 are fully synthetic oils, as are Red > Line and Amsoil. > > I do use synthetic and I am not ashamed to do so. My Jeep Wrangler Sport is > a 2001 (bought new in May 2001), and only has 23,000 miles. I never go past > 3 - 3.5 K on the "oil." This averages to under 20 miles a day > (roughly)...98% city driving...which means I can go up to 6 months between > oil changes. That is one of the reasons why I use synthetic oil. It is > also my choice to do so...like it or not...agree with it or not. > > I give up. Please disregard my original post entirely. > > Campbell Freeman > > And thanks Jerry Bransford. I always appreciate your posts, knowledge, > measured approach, and advice. |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Hi Campbell,
You use the word "synthetic" as if it's not a petroleum product. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > Well...again I ask "...did you even read my original post...?" I never said > anything about "...how long (I) could go between oil changes..." OR about > the so-called "invincibility" to which you refer, but I have already > commented about that. > > BTW...both Castrol Syntec & Mobile1 are fully synthetic oils, as are Red > Line and Amsoil. > > I do use synthetic and I am not ashamed to do so. My Jeep Wrangler Sport is > a 2001 (bought new in May 2001), and only has 23,000 miles. I never go past > 3 - 3.5 K on the "oil." This averages to under 20 miles a day > (roughly)...98% city driving...which means I can go up to 6 months between > oil changes. That is one of the reasons why I use synthetic oil. It is > also my choice to do so...like it or not...agree with it or not. > > I give up. Please disregard my original post entirely. > > Campbell Freeman > > And thanks Jerry Bransford. I always appreciate your posts, knowledge, > measured approach, and advice. |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Hi Campbell,
The main claim of the new Mobil One Extended Performance is the longer 15,000 mile service interval. Looks like they're trying to answer to AMSOIL's extended service claims (35,000 miles!): http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/0w30-ams...ne-engines.php As for the Castrol Syntec, be careful. Apparently the US-made version is not a 'true' synthetic and is a relatively poor performer. Look for the imported Castrol Syntec with 'Made in Germany' printed on the bottle. Myself, I change the non-synthetic 5W-30 in my high-mileage 4.0L every 3K miles. The engine runs great and it doesn't burn oil. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org Campbell C Freeman wrote: > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > the GF-4 specs. > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > Thank you, > Campbell C Freeman > Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Hi Campbell,
The main claim of the new Mobil One Extended Performance is the longer 15,000 mile service interval. Looks like they're trying to answer to AMSOIL's extended service claims (35,000 miles!): http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/0w30-ams...ne-engines.php As for the Castrol Syntec, be careful. Apparently the US-made version is not a 'true' synthetic and is a relatively poor performer. Look for the imported Castrol Syntec with 'Made in Germany' printed on the bottle. Myself, I change the non-synthetic 5W-30 in my high-mileage 4.0L every 3K miles. The engine runs great and it doesn't burn oil. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org Campbell C Freeman wrote: > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > the GF-4 specs. > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > Thank you, > Campbell C Freeman > Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
Hi Campbell,
The main claim of the new Mobil One Extended Performance is the longer 15,000 mile service interval. Looks like they're trying to answer to AMSOIL's extended service claims (35,000 miles!): http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/0w30-ams...ne-engines.php As for the Castrol Syntec, be careful. Apparently the US-made version is not a 'true' synthetic and is a relatively poor performer. Look for the imported Castrol Syntec with 'Made in Germany' printed on the bottle. Myself, I change the non-synthetic 5W-30 in my high-mileage 4.0L every 3K miles. The engine runs great and it doesn't burn oil. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org Campbell C Freeman wrote: > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > the GF-4 specs. > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > Thank you, > Campbell C Freeman > Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
My $0.000002...
I have had the opportunity to study quite a lot of closely held oil/filter/wear information. Here's the basics: Keeping oil clean is the primary goal. What is 'clean'? The primary component of 'clean' is particulate loading and particulate size. Your normal paper oil filter filters out most of the particulates 25 microns and larger. That's 0.001 inches. The smaller chunks keep circulating. Think about a low viscosity slurry of oil and rubbing compound. As the total particulate loading is reduced and the maximum size is reduced by more efficient filtration, the total amount of component wear starts dropping rapidly. Cutting the load and maximum size of particulates in half results cutting the total wear by a square root function. There is also the distinct probability that any single element pleated paper filter will be leaking unfiltered oil (blow-through) by 3K-5K miles. The other thing that happens is that the additives and stabilizers in the oil are depleted and there is an associated breakdown of the polymer molecules. However, I am aware of an experiment that ran petroleum oil with double efficiency filtration that ran 30K miles while maintaining the oil within all oil testing specifications. Another factor is the contamination of oil with other liquids - fuel or coolant - that serves to reduce viscosity and upset/reduce the additives, breakdown the oil and drastically accelerate wear. A true synthetic (Mobil 1 and many others) does not breakdown like pure petroleum products. But, it can get just as dirty. In a perfect world, using a premium lower-micron rated filter and changing it frequently can allow a synthetic oil to be used over and over for many miles and still maintain minimal total wear. The cost of using synthetic oil is the oil, not the filter. Premium filters generally cost around $10. Clean oil = low wear. MikeinIN (engineer in an automotive related industry) "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message news:36vh4rF57ai01U1@individual.net... > Hi Campbell, > > The main claim of the new Mobil One Extended Performance is the longer > 15,000 mile service interval. Looks like they're trying to answer to > AMSOIL's extended service claims (35,000 miles!): > > http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/0w30-ams...ne-engines.php > > As for the Castrol Syntec, be careful. Apparently the US-made version is > not a 'true' synthetic and is a relatively poor performer. Look for the > imported Castrol Syntec with 'Made in Germany' printed on the bottle. > > Myself, I change the non-synthetic 5W-30 in my high-mileage 4.0L every > 3K miles. The engine runs great and it doesn't burn oil. > > Steve > http://xjeep.dyndns.org > > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > > the GF-4 specs. > > > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > > > Thank you, > > Campbell C Freeman > > Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
My $0.000002...
I have had the opportunity to study quite a lot of closely held oil/filter/wear information. Here's the basics: Keeping oil clean is the primary goal. What is 'clean'? The primary component of 'clean' is particulate loading and particulate size. Your normal paper oil filter filters out most of the particulates 25 microns and larger. That's 0.001 inches. The smaller chunks keep circulating. Think about a low viscosity slurry of oil and rubbing compound. As the total particulate loading is reduced and the maximum size is reduced by more efficient filtration, the total amount of component wear starts dropping rapidly. Cutting the load and maximum size of particulates in half results cutting the total wear by a square root function. There is also the distinct probability that any single element pleated paper filter will be leaking unfiltered oil (blow-through) by 3K-5K miles. The other thing that happens is that the additives and stabilizers in the oil are depleted and there is an associated breakdown of the polymer molecules. However, I am aware of an experiment that ran petroleum oil with double efficiency filtration that ran 30K miles while maintaining the oil within all oil testing specifications. Another factor is the contamination of oil with other liquids - fuel or coolant - that serves to reduce viscosity and upset/reduce the additives, breakdown the oil and drastically accelerate wear. A true synthetic (Mobil 1 and many others) does not breakdown like pure petroleum products. But, it can get just as dirty. In a perfect world, using a premium lower-micron rated filter and changing it frequently can allow a synthetic oil to be used over and over for many miles and still maintain minimal total wear. The cost of using synthetic oil is the oil, not the filter. Premium filters generally cost around $10. Clean oil = low wear. MikeinIN (engineer in an automotive related industry) "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message news:36vh4rF57ai01U1@individual.net... > Hi Campbell, > > The main claim of the new Mobil One Extended Performance is the longer > 15,000 mile service interval. Looks like they're trying to answer to > AMSOIL's extended service claims (35,000 miles!): > > http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/0w30-ams...ne-engines.php > > As for the Castrol Syntec, be careful. Apparently the US-made version is > not a 'true' synthetic and is a relatively poor performer. Look for the > imported Castrol Syntec with 'Made in Germany' printed on the bottle. > > Myself, I change the non-synthetic 5W-30 in my high-mileage 4.0L every > 3K miles. The engine runs great and it doesn't burn oil. > > Steve > http://xjeep.dyndns.org > > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > > the GF-4 specs. > > > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > > > Thank you, > > Campbell C Freeman > > Columbia, SC |
Re: Mobile 1 Extended Performance
My $0.000002...
I have had the opportunity to study quite a lot of closely held oil/filter/wear information. Here's the basics: Keeping oil clean is the primary goal. What is 'clean'? The primary component of 'clean' is particulate loading and particulate size. Your normal paper oil filter filters out most of the particulates 25 microns and larger. That's 0.001 inches. The smaller chunks keep circulating. Think about a low viscosity slurry of oil and rubbing compound. As the total particulate loading is reduced and the maximum size is reduced by more efficient filtration, the total amount of component wear starts dropping rapidly. Cutting the load and maximum size of particulates in half results cutting the total wear by a square root function. There is also the distinct probability that any single element pleated paper filter will be leaking unfiltered oil (blow-through) by 3K-5K miles. The other thing that happens is that the additives and stabilizers in the oil are depleted and there is an associated breakdown of the polymer molecules. However, I am aware of an experiment that ran petroleum oil with double efficiency filtration that ran 30K miles while maintaining the oil within all oil testing specifications. Another factor is the contamination of oil with other liquids - fuel or coolant - that serves to reduce viscosity and upset/reduce the additives, breakdown the oil and drastically accelerate wear. A true synthetic (Mobil 1 and many others) does not breakdown like pure petroleum products. But, it can get just as dirty. In a perfect world, using a premium lower-micron rated filter and changing it frequently can allow a synthetic oil to be used over and over for many miles and still maintain minimal total wear. The cost of using synthetic oil is the oil, not the filter. Premium filters generally cost around $10. Clean oil = low wear. MikeinIN (engineer in an automotive related industry) "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message news:36vh4rF57ai01U1@individual.net... > Hi Campbell, > > The main claim of the new Mobil One Extended Performance is the longer > 15,000 mile service interval. Looks like they're trying to answer to > AMSOIL's extended service claims (35,000 miles!): > > http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/0w30-ams...ne-engines.php > > As for the Castrol Syntec, be careful. Apparently the US-made version is > not a 'true' synthetic and is a relatively poor performer. Look for the > imported Castrol Syntec with 'Made in Germany' printed on the bottle. > > Myself, I change the non-synthetic 5W-30 in my high-mileage 4.0L every > 3K miles. The engine runs great and it doesn't burn oil. > > Steve > http://xjeep.dyndns.org > > > Campbell C Freeman wrote: > > I have been using Mobile 1 Synthetic Oil for years & was pleased to hear > > about the introduction of Mobile 1 Extended Performance Synthetic. What I > > found disturbing was that it does not meet API ILSAC GF-4 Certification > > while Castrol Syntec does. I believe Mobile 1 SuperSyn does meet these > > specs. At any rate can you tell me the reason for this? > > > > I am considering Castrol Syntec a try for my next change which does meet > > the GF-4 specs. > > > > Or does it not really make that much difference? > > > > 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4L 6 cyl w/ 23K miles & I have been pleased w/ the > > performance of Mobile 1. The manual calls for 10W30 oil. > > > > Thank you, > > Campbell C Freeman > > Columbia, SC |
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