Analog seems more tolerant of poor signal strength. While digital turns
your voice into trash, you can often hear a person through analog static.

I had Sprint once upon a time. Some of the best audio i've ever heard on a
cellphone. When I could get a signal that is. Which was next to never...

Notice I said cellphone too. It's not wireless, it's cellular. The switch
came some time back when the marketing guys wanted to get everyone used to
the idea of 'wireless services' that would be offered in the future. Anyway
I think the new term is 'mobile' now, referring to the phone itself. That
one's not too bad...I can live with it.

Shawn


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:410530C0.906C8F7A@***.net...
> You know, I have better luck keeping my connections and having the
> people I call understand what I'm saying by sticking with analog
> Motorola flip phone. My contract started with Pacific Telephone, and was
> sold to at least two companies before it wound up with Verizon,
> 760-518-4464. I don't think they could pay to switch. I also have a
> Motorola StarTac with Sprint 760-458-7136 that like all digitals, drops
> about half the sentences, right next to useless.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Endo wrote:
> >
> > It might depend on the type of phone you have. Did you upgrade to GSM
> > ('next generation' they call it) or do you still use the old TDMA
(digital)
> > service? If you have TDMA, then you should know that they are slowly
> > phasing it out. The word is that any sites that have equipment failures
> > dont' get fixed, along with no new cell sites or repeater sites. GSM is
> > going up everywhere and from what I hear they are using the 850MHz
spectrum
> > now out west. That created a problem for the early adopters of the GSM
> > service, since it was originally only 1900MHz. If you want the best GSM
> > service, be sure to have a phone capable of 850/1900MHZ and also
900/1800MHz
> > if you want a true 'world phone' for use in other countries. I have GSM
> > here around Pittsburgh and I can tell you that I have better coverage
here
> > in my house with 1900MHz GSM than with my old 850MHz TDMA phone.
> >
> > Cingular did buy out AT&T so not only will service improve but since
> > customer service is at rock bottom it can only get better. I have a
friend
> > in Florida who is a Cingular CSR and she tells me that great things are
> > coming...
> >
> > Just stick it out or consider upgrading to GSM if you haven't already.
For
> > the best coverage, when mobile in remote areas buy a car kit with
external
> > antenna. Get a hard install kit, not one of those flimsy aftermarket
> > portable ones. Nokia makes many fine models for TDMA and GSM phones.
> >
> > Shawn
> > KB8UDE

 

Analog seems more tolerant of poor signal strength. While digital turns
your voice into trash, you can often hear a person through analog static.

I had Sprint once upon a time. Some of the best audio i've ever heard on a
cellphone. When I could get a signal that is. Which was next to never...

Notice I said cellphone too. It's not wireless, it's cellular. The switch
came some time back when the marketing guys wanted to get everyone used to
the idea of 'wireless services' that would be offered in the future. Anyway
I think the new term is 'mobile' now, referring to the phone itself. That
one's not too bad...I can live with it.

Shawn


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:410530C0.906C8F7A@***.net...
> You know, I have better luck keeping my connections and having the
> people I call understand what I'm saying by sticking with analog
> Motorola flip phone. My contract started with Pacific Telephone, and was
> sold to at least two companies before it wound up with Verizon,
> 760-518-4464. I don't think they could pay to switch. I also have a
> Motorola StarTac with Sprint 760-458-7136 that like all digitals, drops
> about half the sentences, right next to useless.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Endo wrote:
> >
> > It might depend on the type of phone you have. Did you upgrade to GSM
> > ('next generation' they call it) or do you still use the old TDMA
(digital)
> > service? If you have TDMA, then you should know that they are slowly
> > phasing it out. The word is that any sites that have equipment failures
> > dont' get fixed, along with no new cell sites or repeater sites. GSM is
> > going up everywhere and from what I hear they are using the 850MHz
spectrum
> > now out west. That created a problem for the early adopters of the GSM
> > service, since it was originally only 1900MHz. If you want the best GSM
> > service, be sure to have a phone capable of 850/1900MHZ and also
900/1800MHz
> > if you want a true 'world phone' for use in other countries. I have GSM
> > here around Pittsburgh and I can tell you that I have better coverage
here
> > in my house with 1900MHz GSM than with my old 850MHz TDMA phone.
> >
> > Cingular did buy out AT&T so not only will service improve but since
> > customer service is at rock bottom it can only get better. I have a
friend
> > in Florida who is a Cingular CSR and she tells me that great things are
> > coming...
> >
> > Just stick it out or consider upgrading to GSM if you haven't already.
For
> > the best coverage, when mobile in remote areas buy a car kit with
external
> > antenna. Get a hard install kit, not one of those flimsy aftermarket
> > portable ones. Nokia makes many fine models for TDMA and GSM phones.
> >
> > Shawn
> > KB8UDE

 

Analog seems more tolerant of poor signal strength. While digital turns
your voice into trash, you can often hear a person through analog static.

I had Sprint once upon a time. Some of the best audio i've ever heard on a
cellphone. When I could get a signal that is. Which was next to never...

Notice I said cellphone too. It's not wireless, it's cellular. The switch
came some time back when the marketing guys wanted to get everyone used to
the idea of 'wireless services' that would be offered in the future. Anyway
I think the new term is 'mobile' now, referring to the phone itself. That
one's not too bad...I can live with it.

Shawn


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:410530C0.906C8F7A@***.net...
> You know, I have better luck keeping my connections and having the
> people I call understand what I'm saying by sticking with analog
> Motorola flip phone. My contract started with Pacific Telephone, and was
> sold to at least two companies before it wound up with Verizon,
> 760-518-4464. I don't think they could pay to switch. I also have a
> Motorola StarTac with Sprint 760-458-7136 that like all digitals, drops
> about half the sentences, right next to useless.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Endo wrote:
> >
> > It might depend on the type of phone you have. Did you upgrade to GSM
> > ('next generation' they call it) or do you still use the old TDMA
(digital)
> > service? If you have TDMA, then you should know that they are slowly
> > phasing it out. The word is that any sites that have equipment failures
> > dont' get fixed, along with no new cell sites or repeater sites. GSM is
> > going up everywhere and from what I hear they are using the 850MHz
spectrum
> > now out west. That created a problem for the early adopters of the GSM
> > service, since it was originally only 1900MHz. If you want the best GSM
> > service, be sure to have a phone capable of 850/1900MHZ and also
900/1800MHz
> > if you want a true 'world phone' for use in other countries. I have GSM
> > here around Pittsburgh and I can tell you that I have better coverage
here
> > in my house with 1900MHz GSM than with my old 850MHz TDMA phone.
> >
> > Cingular did buy out AT&T so not only will service improve but since
> > customer service is at rock bottom it can only get better. I have a
friend
> > in Florida who is a Cingular CSR and she tells me that great things are
> > coming...
> >
> > Just stick it out or consider upgrading to GSM if you haven't already.
For
> > the best coverage, when mobile in remote areas buy a car kit with
external
> > antenna. Get a hard install kit, not one of those flimsy aftermarket
> > portable ones. Nokia makes many fine models for TDMA and GSM phones.
> >
> > Shawn
> > KB8UDE

 

I'm pretty sure that AT&T won't even activate a new analog account anymore.
I'm sure that Verizon will, and probably Alltel as well in my area. Other
older/smaller operators may also do it.

Those bag phones were nice. 3 watts of power instead of .6 in the handheld
phones. I still have a few sitting around collecting dust.

Analog's big problem is efficiency...it takes too much bandwidth to place
one call. Cell companies want the most use of the spectrum they have to fit
the most users on a given channel. With the huge growth in popularity of
cellphones the last few years, it's out of necessity more than anything.

Shawn


"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:2ml3dpFn73dvU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > You know, I have better luck keeping my connections and having the
> > people I call understand what I'm saying by sticking with analog
> > Motorola flip phone
>
> I think you have it there, Bill.
> One of my friends needs to be easily reached for his business, he says the
> old "bag phones", on analog are the best for connecting here in the
> mountains. They come cheap at garage sales, and like any cellphone, can be
> used for 911 calls without subscribing to a service. On the other hand, I
> understand that analog's days are numbered.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> "
>
>

 

I'm pretty sure that AT&T won't even activate a new analog account anymore.
I'm sure that Verizon will, and probably Alltel as well in my area. Other
older/smaller operators may also do it.

Those bag phones were nice. 3 watts of power instead of .6 in the handheld
phones. I still have a few sitting around collecting dust.

Analog's big problem is efficiency...it takes too much bandwidth to place
one call. Cell companies want the most use of the spectrum they have to fit
the most users on a given channel. With the huge growth in popularity of
cellphones the last few years, it's out of necessity more than anything.

Shawn


"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:2ml3dpFn73dvU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > You know, I have better luck keeping my connections and having the
> > people I call understand what I'm saying by sticking with analog
> > Motorola flip phone
>
> I think you have it there, Bill.
> One of my friends needs to be easily reached for his business, he says the
> old "bag phones", on analog are the best for connecting here in the
> mountains. They come cheap at garage sales, and like any cellphone, can be
> used for 911 calls without subscribing to a service. On the other hand, I
> understand that analog's days are numbered.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> "
>
>

 

I'm pretty sure that AT&T won't even activate a new analog account anymore.
I'm sure that Verizon will, and probably Alltel as well in my area. Other
older/smaller operators may also do it.

Those bag phones were nice. 3 watts of power instead of .6 in the handheld
phones. I still have a few sitting around collecting dust.

Analog's big problem is efficiency...it takes too much bandwidth to place
one call. Cell companies want the most use of the spectrum they have to fit
the most users on a given channel. With the huge growth in popularity of
cellphones the last few years, it's out of necessity more than anything.

Shawn


"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:2ml3dpFn73dvU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > You know, I have better luck keeping my connections and having the
> > people I call understand what I'm saying by sticking with analog
> > Motorola flip phone
>
> I think you have it there, Bill.
> One of my friends needs to be easily reached for his business, he says the
> old "bag phones", on analog are the best for connecting here in the
> mountains. They come cheap at garage sales, and like any cellphone, can be
> used for 911 calls without subscribing to a service. On the other hand, I
> understand that analog's days are numbered.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> "
>
>

 

I'm pretty sure that AT&T won't even activate a new analog account anymore.
I'm sure that Verizon will, and probably Alltel as well in my area. Other
older/smaller operators may also do it.

Those bag phones were nice. 3 watts of power instead of .6 in the handheld
phones. I still have a few sitting around collecting dust.

Analog's big problem is efficiency...it takes too much bandwidth to place
one call. Cell companies want the most use of the spectrum they have to fit
the most users on a given channel. With the huge growth in popularity of
cellphones the last few years, it's out of necessity more than anything.

Shawn


"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:2ml3dpFn73dvU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > You know, I have better luck keeping my connections and having the
> > people I call understand what I'm saying by sticking with analog
> > Motorola flip phone
>
> I think you have it there, Bill.
> One of my friends needs to be easily reached for his business, he says the
> old "bag phones", on analog are the best for connecting here in the
> mountains. They come cheap at garage sales, and like any cellphone, can be
> used for 911 calls without subscribing to a service. On the other hand, I
> understand that analog's days are numbered.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> "
>
>

 

Thanks for checking around. I'll look into Sprint and Verizon. I've got an old
analog/digital phone that I used with Sprint years ago. I wonder if that would
work well down there? Given the rural nature of the area it will probably be
the last to be upgraded to the fancy GSM equipment.

It makes sense to me that an analog phone would work better in areas of poor
reception. Static that would kill a digital connection is still relatively easy
to hear through.

Dean


On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:34:16 -0600, "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote:

>The locals are saying:
>
>AT&T works ok, but you have to have a good phone with them. Also AT&T has
>been bought by Cingular, so services maybe changing soon
>
>AT&T works better than Nextel
>
>Verizon works OK
>
>Sprint "works great" in that area.
>
>
>
>"Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>news:hn%Mc.24163$zm6.17894@fe08.usenetserver.com. ..
>> The best service I have had in those "remote" Utah areas is by far your
>> favorite AT&T. I will ask around to some Moab locals and see if there is
>> something better down there.
>>
>>
>> "Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
>> news:a9t8g01ks5nd4l2u00hppt5i17kp9hg23u@4ax.com...
>> > Just got back from 3 days in Moab and boy am I hot, both physically and
>> > literally. The temps down there were pushing one hundred and my AT&T
>cell
>> phone
>> > was pushing my buttons until my temps were climbing too. <grrrrr>. For
>> me AT&T
>> > has been a lousy cell phone provider and this trip was the last straw.
>> Every
>> > time I go to Moab I swear I'm replacing AT&T before my next trip. This
>> time, no
>> > talk! Action! The Labor Day Jeep safari is only a few weeks away. :-)
>> >
>> > I know there is cell service because my AT&T phone shows service bars.
>> But
>> > AT&T customer service can't fix the problem until I place a call while
>I'm
>> > experiencing the problem. However, when I'm having the problem I can't
>> place or
>> > receive any calls, Catch 22. With the exception of downtown Moab the
>> AT&T
>> > phone doesn't work in a 20 mile radius.
>> >
>> > Does anybody know who the Moab locals use for their cell phone service?
>> Anybody
>> > have good or bad things to say about their provider around Moab?
>> Specifically I
>> > want service on the Jeep trails around Moab.
>> >
>> > TIA Dean
>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

Thanks for checking around. I'll look into Sprint and Verizon. I've got an old
analog/digital phone that I used with Sprint years ago. I wonder if that would
work well down there? Given the rural nature of the area it will probably be
the last to be upgraded to the fancy GSM equipment.

It makes sense to me that an analog phone would work better in areas of poor
reception. Static that would kill a digital connection is still relatively easy
to hear through.

Dean


On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:34:16 -0600, "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote:

>The locals are saying:
>
>AT&T works ok, but you have to have a good phone with them. Also AT&T has
>been bought by Cingular, so services maybe changing soon
>
>AT&T works better than Nextel
>
>Verizon works OK
>
>Sprint "works great" in that area.
>
>
>
>"Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>news:hn%Mc.24163$zm6.17894@fe08.usenetserver.com. ..
>> The best service I have had in those "remote" Utah areas is by far your
>> favorite AT&T. I will ask around to some Moab locals and see if there is
>> something better down there.
>>
>>
>> "Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
>> news:a9t8g01ks5nd4l2u00hppt5i17kp9hg23u@4ax.com...
>> > Just got back from 3 days in Moab and boy am I hot, both physically and
>> > literally. The temps down there were pushing one hundred and my AT&T
>cell
>> phone
>> > was pushing my buttons until my temps were climbing too. <grrrrr>. For
>> me AT&T
>> > has been a lousy cell phone provider and this trip was the last straw.
>> Every
>> > time I go to Moab I swear I'm replacing AT&T before my next trip. This
>> time, no
>> > talk! Action! The Labor Day Jeep safari is only a few weeks away. :-)
>> >
>> > I know there is cell service because my AT&T phone shows service bars.
>> But
>> > AT&T customer service can't fix the problem until I place a call while
>I'm
>> > experiencing the problem. However, when I'm having the problem I can't
>> place or
>> > receive any calls, Catch 22. With the exception of downtown Moab the
>> AT&T
>> > phone doesn't work in a 20 mile radius.
>> >
>> > Does anybody know who the Moab locals use for their cell phone service?
>> Anybody
>> > have good or bad things to say about their provider around Moab?
>> Specifically I
>> > want service on the Jeep trails around Moab.
>> >
>> > TIA Dean
>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

Thanks for checking around. I'll look into Sprint and Verizon. I've got an old
analog/digital phone that I used with Sprint years ago. I wonder if that would
work well down there? Given the rural nature of the area it will probably be
the last to be upgraded to the fancy GSM equipment.

It makes sense to me that an analog phone would work better in areas of poor
reception. Static that would kill a digital connection is still relatively easy
to hear through.

Dean


On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:34:16 -0600, "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote:

>The locals are saying:
>
>AT&T works ok, but you have to have a good phone with them. Also AT&T has
>been bought by Cingular, so services maybe changing soon
>
>AT&T works better than Nextel
>
>Verizon works OK
>
>Sprint "works great" in that area.
>
>
>
>"Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>news:hn%Mc.24163$zm6.17894@fe08.usenetserver.com. ..
>> The best service I have had in those "remote" Utah areas is by far your
>> favorite AT&T. I will ask around to some Moab locals and see if there is
>> something better down there.
>>
>>
>> "Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
>> news:a9t8g01ks5nd4l2u00hppt5i17kp9hg23u@4ax.com...
>> > Just got back from 3 days in Moab and boy am I hot, both physically and
>> > literally. The temps down there were pushing one hundred and my AT&T
>cell
>> phone
>> > was pushing my buttons until my temps were climbing too. <grrrrr>. For
>> me AT&T
>> > has been a lousy cell phone provider and this trip was the last straw.
>> Every
>> > time I go to Moab I swear I'm replacing AT&T before my next trip. This
>> time, no
>> > talk! Action! The Labor Day Jeep safari is only a few weeks away. :-)
>> >
>> > I know there is cell service because my AT&T phone shows service bars.
>> But
>> > AT&T customer service can't fix the problem until I place a call while
>I'm
>> > experiencing the problem. However, when I'm having the problem I can't
>> place or
>> > receive any calls, Catch 22. With the exception of downtown Moab the
>> AT&T
>> > phone doesn't work in a 20 mile radius.
>> >
>> > Does anybody know who the Moab locals use for their cell phone service?
>> Anybody
>> > have good or bad things to say about their provider around Moab?
>> Specifically I
>> > want service on the Jeep trails around Moab.
>> >
>> > TIA Dean
>>
>>
>>
>
>