MileMarker Hub Conversion
01-17-2005, 04:14 PM
#21
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Re: MileMarker Hub Conversion
Mike Romain wrote:
> Nope, there is a big thread on that going on the last few days. The
> military went with the cheapest they could get. Period.
you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
american made.
building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
enter the electric market.
> Nope, there is a big thread on that going on the last few days. The
> military went with the cheapest they could get. Period.
you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
american made.
building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
enter the electric market.
01-17-2005, 04:14 PM
#22
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Re: MileMarker Hub Conversion
Mike Romain wrote:
> Nope, there is a big thread on that going on the last few days. The
> military went with the cheapest they could get. Period.
you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
american made.
building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
enter the electric market.
> Nope, there is a big thread on that going on the last few days. The
> military went with the cheapest they could get. Period.
you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
american made.
building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
enter the electric market.
01-17-2005, 04:17 PM
#23
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Re: MileMarker Hub Conversion
Ben wrote:
> I didn't know they were made in China
nobody here has yet determined they were made in china. mike is
guessing partially because he doesnt know, and partially because he
prefers warn.
> What is so funny.. According to
> their website, the US Army is converting from Warn electric winches
to
> MileMarker hydraulic winches...
nothing funny about that. the hydraulic winch is far superior to the
electric winch for military applications. the hydraulic winch is built
right here in america, and is the cornerstone of mile marker. the
electric winch is just a cheaper alternative for those who want to go
electric but cant afford to shell out $700+ for a winch.
> I didn't know they were made in China
nobody here has yet determined they were made in china. mike is
guessing partially because he doesnt know, and partially because he
prefers warn.
> What is so funny.. According to
> their website, the US Army is converting from Warn electric winches
to
> MileMarker hydraulic winches...
nothing funny about that. the hydraulic winch is far superior to the
electric winch for military applications. the hydraulic winch is built
right here in america, and is the cornerstone of mile marker. the
electric winch is just a cheaper alternative for those who want to go
electric but cant afford to shell out $700+ for a winch.
01-17-2005, 04:17 PM
#24
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Re: MileMarker Hub Conversion
Ben wrote:
> I didn't know they were made in China
nobody here has yet determined they were made in china. mike is
guessing partially because he doesnt know, and partially because he
prefers warn.
> What is so funny.. According to
> their website, the US Army is converting from Warn electric winches
to
> MileMarker hydraulic winches...
nothing funny about that. the hydraulic winch is far superior to the
electric winch for military applications. the hydraulic winch is built
right here in america, and is the cornerstone of mile marker. the
electric winch is just a cheaper alternative for those who want to go
electric but cant afford to shell out $700+ for a winch.
> I didn't know they were made in China
nobody here has yet determined they were made in china. mike is
guessing partially because he doesnt know, and partially because he
prefers warn.
> What is so funny.. According to
> their website, the US Army is converting from Warn electric winches
to
> MileMarker hydraulic winches...
nothing funny about that. the hydraulic winch is far superior to the
electric winch for military applications. the hydraulic winch is built
right here in america, and is the cornerstone of mile marker. the
electric winch is just a cheaper alternative for those who want to go
electric but cant afford to shell out $700+ for a winch.
01-17-2005, 04:17 PM
#25
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Re: MileMarker Hub Conversion
Ben wrote:
> I didn't know they were made in China
nobody here has yet determined they were made in china. mike is
guessing partially because he doesnt know, and partially because he
prefers warn.
> What is so funny.. According to
> their website, the US Army is converting from Warn electric winches
to
> MileMarker hydraulic winches...
nothing funny about that. the hydraulic winch is far superior to the
electric winch for military applications. the hydraulic winch is built
right here in america, and is the cornerstone of mile marker. the
electric winch is just a cheaper alternative for those who want to go
electric but cant afford to shell out $700+ for a winch.
> I didn't know they were made in China
nobody here has yet determined they were made in china. mike is
guessing partially because he doesnt know, and partially because he
prefers warn.
> What is so funny.. According to
> their website, the US Army is converting from Warn electric winches
to
> MileMarker hydraulic winches...
nothing funny about that. the hydraulic winch is far superior to the
electric winch for military applications. the hydraulic winch is built
right here in america, and is the cornerstone of mile marker. the
electric winch is just a cheaper alternative for those who want to go
electric but cant afford to shell out $700+ for a winch.
01-17-2005, 05:23 PM
#26
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Re: MileMarker Hub Conversion
There was a day when we bought the best for our men, if it took six
hundred dollars to make a special hammer, they got it. But special
interests have taken over, proof:
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/true_story_m9.htm We have given
them a toy with which to defend themselves.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>
> you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
> at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
> advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
> the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
> american made.
>
> building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
> with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
> than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
> one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
> production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
> winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
> enter the electric market.
hundred dollars to make a special hammer, they got it. But special
interests have taken over, proof:
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/true_story_m9.htm We have given
them a toy with which to defend themselves.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>
> you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
> at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
> advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
> the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
> american made.
>
> building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
> with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
> than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
> one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
> production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
> winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
> enter the electric market.
01-17-2005, 05:23 PM
#27
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Re: MileMarker Hub Conversion
There was a day when we bought the best for our men, if it took six
hundred dollars to make a special hammer, they got it. But special
interests have taken over, proof:
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/true_story_m9.htm We have given
them a toy with which to defend themselves.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>
> you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
> at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
> advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
> the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
> american made.
>
> building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
> with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
> than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
> one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
> production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
> winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
> enter the electric market.
hundred dollars to make a special hammer, they got it. But special
interests have taken over, proof:
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/true_story_m9.htm We have given
them a toy with which to defend themselves.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>
> you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
> at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
> advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
> the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
> american made.
>
> building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
> with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
> than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
> one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
> production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
> winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
> enter the electric market.
01-17-2005, 05:23 PM
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: MileMarker Hub Conversion
There was a day when we bought the best for our men, if it took six
hundred dollars to make a special hammer, they got it. But special
interests have taken over, proof:
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/true_story_m9.htm We have given
them a toy with which to defend themselves.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>
> you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
> at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
> advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
> the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
> american made.
>
> building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
> with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
> than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
> one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
> production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
> winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
> enter the electric market.
hundred dollars to make a special hammer, they got it. But special
interests have taken over, proof:
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/true_story_m9.htm We have given
them a toy with which to defend themselves.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>
> you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
> at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
> advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
> the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
> american made.
>
> building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
> with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
> than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
> one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
> production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
> winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
> enter the electric market.
01-17-2005, 06:20 PM
#29
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Re: MileMarker Hub Conversion
Well there you go, that thread got so lost in BS so fast, all I got out
of it was milemarker were supplying the US military and made in
China....
I did point him to it.
Mike
montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Nope, there is a big thread on that going on the last few days. The
> > military went with the cheapest they could get. Period.
>
> you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
> at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
> advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
> the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
> american made.
>
> building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
> with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
> than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
> one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
> production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
> winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
> enter the electric market.
of it was milemarker were supplying the US military and made in
China....
I did point him to it.
Mike
montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Nope, there is a big thread on that going on the last few days. The
> > military went with the cheapest they could get. Period.
>
> you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
> at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
> advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
> the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
> american made.
>
> building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
> with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
> than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
> one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
> production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
> winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
> enter the electric market.
01-17-2005, 06:20 PM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: MileMarker Hub Conversion
Well there you go, that thread got so lost in BS so fast, all I got out
of it was milemarker were supplying the US military and made in
China....
I did point him to it.
Mike
montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Nope, there is a big thread on that going on the last few days. The
> > military went with the cheapest they could get. Period.
>
> you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
> at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
> advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
> the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
> american made.
>
> building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
> with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
> than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
> one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
> production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
> winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
> enter the electric market.
of it was milemarker were supplying the US military and made in
China....
I did point him to it.
Mike
montanajeeper@aol.com wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Nope, there is a big thread on that going on the last few days. The
> > military went with the cheapest they could get. Period.
>
> you should get your facts straight before dispensing advice on them, or
> at least not let your own preferences lead you to dispensing bad
> advice. the mile marker ELECTRIC winches are rebadged china winches.
> the mile marker HYDRAULIC winches, which you are addressing here, are
> american made.
>
> building the hydraulics cheaper than the competitors have nothing to do
> with substandard components. they can build hydraulic winches cheaper
> than warn because they have been building hydraulic winches from day
> one and theyre tooled up and running (not to mention capable of meeting
> production demands). warn is just now trying to get into the hydraulic
> winch business and are failing at it worse than mile markers attempt to
> enter the electric market.