Re: Mike, here's the plugs after about a 10 to 15 mile run after new distributor and fresh rebuild
 

Never mind.

My plugs came out with much less brown on the tips, but I suppose that the
brown is not an indicator of trouble. They are all the same color, but the
ones to the back of the motor look a little darker to me.


IN A RELATED DEVELOPMENT
I took the plugs out of CRWLR, and the #3 plug is black and loading up.

You guys might remember that I wsas asking about a high speed miss that has
developed. The motor runs well at low speeds, normal city and rural road
driving, but misses after several minutes on the interstate. I was wondering
about what a floating valve might feel like. I have never had a valve float,
but if one did float, I think it should feel alot like what I am getting.
The black plug tends to support that I have something in the motor getting
ready to take a bye. .



"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10aia0us7e49bb7@corp.supernews.com...
> That's after only 15 miles?! The plugs out of my BMW were cleaner than
that
> after 50,000 miles.
>
> I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but me thinks you have issues.
>
>
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:2gqgl9F53o6mU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Mike, here's a look at the plugs after rebuild and I just replaced the
> > distributor.
> >
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/plugs.jpg
> >
> > What do you think about this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Mike, here's the plugs after about a 10 to 15 mile run after newdistributor and fresh rebuild
 

I will reserve judgment on Bill's plugs until some miles get on them.

I would be checking the plug wire and inside the distributor for carbon
tracks first on your miss, buildup. Even a bad plug. Maybe swap them
with a different cylinder to see what happens.

Then a fast compression test can tell a bunch...

A floating valve usually will be noisy, but not always.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Never mind.
>
> My plugs came out with much less brown on the tips, but I suppose that the
> brown is not an indicator of trouble. They are all the same color, but the
> ones to the back of the motor look a little darker to me.
>
> IN A RELATED DEVELOPMENT
> I took the plugs out of CRWLR, and the #3 plug is black and loading up.
>
> You guys might remember that I wsas asking about a high speed miss that has
> developed. The motor runs well at low speeds, normal city and rural road
> driving, but misses after several minutes on the interstate. I was wondering
> about what a floating valve might feel like. I have never had a valve float,
> but if one did float, I think it should feel alot like what I am getting.
> The black plug tends to support that I have something in the motor getting
> ready to take a bye. .
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10aia0us7e49bb7@corp.supernews.com...
> > That's after only 15 miles?! The plugs out of my BMW were cleaner than
> that
> > after 50,000 miles.
> >
> > I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but me thinks you have issues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:2gqgl9F53o6mU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Mike, here's a look at the plugs after rebuild and I just replaced the
> > > distributor.
> > >
> > > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/plugs.jpg
> > >
> > > What do you think about this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Mike, here's the plugs after about a 10 to 15 mile run after newdistributor and fresh rebuild
 

I will reserve judgment on Bill's plugs until some miles get on them.

I would be checking the plug wire and inside the distributor for carbon
tracks first on your miss, buildup. Even a bad plug. Maybe swap them
with a different cylinder to see what happens.

Then a fast compression test can tell a bunch...

A floating valve usually will be noisy, but not always.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Never mind.
>
> My plugs came out with much less brown on the tips, but I suppose that the
> brown is not an indicator of trouble. They are all the same color, but the
> ones to the back of the motor look a little darker to me.
>
> IN A RELATED DEVELOPMENT
> I took the plugs out of CRWLR, and the #3 plug is black and loading up.
>
> You guys might remember that I wsas asking about a high speed miss that has
> developed. The motor runs well at low speeds, normal city and rural road
> driving, but misses after several minutes on the interstate. I was wondering
> about what a floating valve might feel like. I have never had a valve float,
> but if one did float, I think it should feel alot like what I am getting.
> The black plug tends to support that I have something in the motor getting
> ready to take a bye. .
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10aia0us7e49bb7@corp.supernews.com...
> > That's after only 15 miles?! The plugs out of my BMW were cleaner than
> that
> > after 50,000 miles.
> >
> > I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but me thinks you have issues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:2gqgl9F53o6mU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Mike, here's a look at the plugs after rebuild and I just replaced the
> > > distributor.
> > >
> > > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/plugs.jpg
> > >
> > > What do you think about this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Mike, here's the plugs after about a 10 to 15 mile run after newdistributor and fresh rebuild
 

I will reserve judgment on Bill's plugs until some miles get on them.

I would be checking the plug wire and inside the distributor for carbon
tracks first on your miss, buildup. Even a bad plug. Maybe swap them
with a different cylinder to see what happens.

Then a fast compression test can tell a bunch...

A floating valve usually will be noisy, but not always.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Never mind.
>
> My plugs came out with much less brown on the tips, but I suppose that the
> brown is not an indicator of trouble. They are all the same color, but the
> ones to the back of the motor look a little darker to me.
>
> IN A RELATED DEVELOPMENT
> I took the plugs out of CRWLR, and the #3 plug is black and loading up.
>
> You guys might remember that I wsas asking about a high speed miss that has
> developed. The motor runs well at low speeds, normal city and rural road
> driving, but misses after several minutes on the interstate. I was wondering
> about what a floating valve might feel like. I have never had a valve float,
> but if one did float, I think it should feel alot like what I am getting.
> The black plug tends to support that I have something in the motor getting
> ready to take a bye. .
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10aia0us7e49bb7@corp.supernews.com...
> > That's after only 15 miles?! The plugs out of my BMW were cleaner than
> that
> > after 50,000 miles.
> >
> > I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but me thinks you have issues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:2gqgl9F53o6mU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Mike, here's a look at the plugs after rebuild and I just replaced the
> > > distributor.
> > >
> > > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/plugs.jpg
> > >
> > > What do you think about this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Mike, here's the plugs after about a 10 to 15 mile run after newdistributor and fresh rebuild
 

I will reserve judgment on Bill's plugs until some miles get on them.

I would be checking the plug wire and inside the distributor for carbon
tracks first on your miss, buildup. Even a bad plug. Maybe swap them
with a different cylinder to see what happens.

Then a fast compression test can tell a bunch...

A floating valve usually will be noisy, but not always.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Never mind.
>
> My plugs came out with much less brown on the tips, but I suppose that the
> brown is not an indicator of trouble. They are all the same color, but the
> ones to the back of the motor look a little darker to me.
>
> IN A RELATED DEVELOPMENT
> I took the plugs out of CRWLR, and the #3 plug is black and loading up.
>
> You guys might remember that I wsas asking about a high speed miss that has
> developed. The motor runs well at low speeds, normal city and rural road
> driving, but misses after several minutes on the interstate. I was wondering
> about what a floating valve might feel like. I have never had a valve float,
> but if one did float, I think it should feel alot like what I am getting.
> The black plug tends to support that I have something in the motor getting
> ready to take a bye. .
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10aia0us7e49bb7@corp.supernews.com...
> > That's after only 15 miles?! The plugs out of my BMW were cleaner than
> that
> > after 50,000 miles.
> >
> > I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but me thinks you have issues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:2gqgl9F53o6mU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Mike, here's a look at the plugs after rebuild and I just replaced the
> > > distributor.
> > >
> > > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/plugs.jpg
> > >
> > > What do you think about this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Mike, here's the plugs after about a 10 to 15 mile run after newdistributor and fresh rebuild
 

Hi Jeff,
Misfiring more at hot could be the coil giving up, and may be
showing up more at plug number three with it's possibly higher
resistance wire also needing replacement. It will instantly show up on
an analyzer's oscilloscope: http://www.----------.com/coilTest.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Never mind.
>
> My plugs came out with much less brown on the tips, but I suppose that the
> brown is not an indicator of trouble. They are all the same color, but the
> ones to the back of the motor look a little darker to me.
>
> IN A RELATED DEVELOPMENT
> I took the plugs out of CRWLR, and the #3 plug is black and loading up.
>
> You guys might remember that I wsas asking about a high speed miss that has
> developed. The motor runs well at low speeds, normal city and rural road
> driving, but misses after several minutes on the interstate. I was wondering
> about what a floating valve might feel like. I have never had a valve float,
> but if one did float, I think it should feel alot like what I am getting.
> The black plug tends to support that I have something in the motor getting
> ready to take a bye. .
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10aia0us7e49bb7@corp.supernews.com...
> > That's after only 15 miles?! The plugs out of my BMW were cleaner than
> that
> > after 50,000 miles.
> >
> > I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but me thinks you have issues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:2gqgl9F53o6mU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Mike, here's a look at the plugs after rebuild and I just replaced the
> > > distributor.
> > >
> > > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/plugs.jpg
> > >
> > > What do you think about this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Mike, here's the plugs after about a 10 to 15 mile run after newdistributor and fresh rebuild
 

Hi Jeff,
Misfiring more at hot could be the coil giving up, and may be
showing up more at plug number three with it's possibly higher
resistance wire also needing replacement. It will instantly show up on
an analyzer's oscilloscope: http://www.----------.com/coilTest.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Never mind.
>
> My plugs came out with much less brown on the tips, but I suppose that the
> brown is not an indicator of trouble. They are all the same color, but the
> ones to the back of the motor look a little darker to me.
>
> IN A RELATED DEVELOPMENT
> I took the plugs out of CRWLR, and the #3 plug is black and loading up.
>
> You guys might remember that I wsas asking about a high speed miss that has
> developed. The motor runs well at low speeds, normal city and rural road
> driving, but misses after several minutes on the interstate. I was wondering
> about what a floating valve might feel like. I have never had a valve float,
> but if one did float, I think it should feel alot like what I am getting.
> The black plug tends to support that I have something in the motor getting
> ready to take a bye. .
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10aia0us7e49bb7@corp.supernews.com...
> > That's after only 15 miles?! The plugs out of my BMW were cleaner than
> that
> > after 50,000 miles.
> >
> > I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but me thinks you have issues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:2gqgl9F53o6mU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Mike, here's a look at the plugs after rebuild and I just replaced the
> > > distributor.
> > >
> > > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/plugs.jpg
> > >
> > > What do you think about this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Mike, here's the plugs after about a 10 to 15 mile run after newdistributor and fresh rebuild
 

Hi Jeff,
Misfiring more at hot could be the coil giving up, and may be
showing up more at plug number three with it's possibly higher
resistance wire also needing replacement. It will instantly show up on
an analyzer's oscilloscope: http://www.----------.com/coilTest.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Never mind.
>
> My plugs came out with much less brown on the tips, but I suppose that the
> brown is not an indicator of trouble. They are all the same color, but the
> ones to the back of the motor look a little darker to me.
>
> IN A RELATED DEVELOPMENT
> I took the plugs out of CRWLR, and the #3 plug is black and loading up.
>
> You guys might remember that I wsas asking about a high speed miss that has
> developed. The motor runs well at low speeds, normal city and rural road
> driving, but misses after several minutes on the interstate. I was wondering
> about what a floating valve might feel like. I have never had a valve float,
> but if one did float, I think it should feel alot like what I am getting.
> The black plug tends to support that I have something in the motor getting
> ready to take a bye. .
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10aia0us7e49bb7@corp.supernews.com...
> > That's after only 15 miles?! The plugs out of my BMW were cleaner than
> that
> > after 50,000 miles.
> >
> > I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but me thinks you have issues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:2gqgl9F53o6mU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Mike, here's a look at the plugs after rebuild and I just replaced the
> > > distributor.
> > >
> > > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/plugs.jpg
> > >
> > > What do you think about this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Mike, here's the plugs after about a 10 to 15 mile run after newdistributor and fresh rebuild
 

Hi Jeff,
Misfiring more at hot could be the coil giving up, and may be
showing up more at plug number three with it's possibly higher
resistance wire also needing replacement. It will instantly show up on
an analyzer's oscilloscope: http://www.----------.com/coilTest.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Never mind.
>
> My plugs came out with much less brown on the tips, but I suppose that the
> brown is not an indicator of trouble. They are all the same color, but the
> ones to the back of the motor look a little darker to me.
>
> IN A RELATED DEVELOPMENT
> I took the plugs out of CRWLR, and the #3 plug is black and loading up.
>
> You guys might remember that I wsas asking about a high speed miss that has
> developed. The motor runs well at low speeds, normal city and rural road
> driving, but misses after several minutes on the interstate. I was wondering
> about what a floating valve might feel like. I have never had a valve float,
> but if one did float, I think it should feel alot like what I am getting.
> The black plug tends to support that I have something in the motor getting
> ready to take a bye. .
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10aia0us7e49bb7@corp.supernews.com...
> > That's after only 15 miles?! The plugs out of my BMW were cleaner than
> that
> > after 50,000 miles.
> >
> > I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but me thinks you have issues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:2gqgl9F53o6mU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Mike, here's a look at the plugs after rebuild and I just replaced the
> > > distributor.
> > >
> > > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/plugs.jpg
> > >
> > > What do you think about this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Mike, here's the plugs after about a 10 to 15 mile run after new distributor and fresh rebuild
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40A93A68.DBC28FBA@cox.net...
> Hi Jeff,
> Misfiring more at hot could be the coil giving up, and may be
> showing up more at plug number three with it's possibly higher
> resistance wire also needing replacement. It will instantly show up on
> an analyzer's oscilloscope: http://www.----------.com/coilTest.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------


Have you still got your scope?