Kate

Sounds like a good job, lots of work to do.
So, what is YOUR opinion on countertops?
I cannot afford solid granite - period. I thought the tile might be a good
choice cut now I realize it has a very slightly mitered edge, this will
enlarge the toothpick sized grout line that I had planned.

So, I am half considering other options. Trouble is, I already spent $900 on
the tiles I have - I think sometimes I am an idiot, and things like this
just porve it.

I'd love to see some photos of your project.
Wanna see my floor?

Kate


"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:DsOdnUb8bJln3AbYnZ2dnUVZ_ualnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Kate,
>
> I've got some Hardi-Plank siding to finish on one gable end, then we
> need to stain and hang some cedar shake siding for the two tall gable
> ends. We floated the 6x6 shower stall's floor today, and we'll tile it
> tomorrow or the next day. We have a little more travertine to put on the
> shower stall walls, and three granite countertops to make. We also have
> one more header piece for some of the floor joists, the front and rear
> patios to pour and set the posts in.
>
> The master shower is AMAZING. It's basicaly 6x6 with four shower heads and
> a handheld. Completely tile, mostly travertine.
>
> We're also starting an attached shop to an existing home, 28x28 with a
> breezeway..
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
> news:GuGmh.18494$h_1.9017@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>>
>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>> news:ur6dnQ74LtIbLATYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Kate, I feel the same way, except the house I'm working on is for a
>>> customer. What do you guys have left to do?
>>>
>>> Carl
>>
>> Really, not so much, but I'm tired.. just tired.
>> We have to tile one bathroom floor, it's a small room and only a half
>> bath off of the litchen. Then tile the even smaller pantry floor and then
>> grout the entire area. We are going to rebuild the cabinet in the
>> bathroom, replace the sink and faucet and tile the countertop
>> (Travertine)
>>
>> Then... we still need to get our baseboards up in the dining room and
>> kitchen. Patch and paint walls, there were some BAD moves on electrical
>> boxes so some fairly large patches that need repairing and the walls here
>> are smooth, so it's kind of tedious. We are thinking of putting wainscot
>> in that area but if we do then I'll have to paint the fireplace, and I am
>> not crazy about that idea either.
>>
>> THEN we are going to redo the kitchen countertops. We have sombeautifu;
>> granite tile but I am having second thoughts. Then lastly, refinishing
>> the kitchen cabinets and maybe replacing the doors, which means we will
>> have to build them. I may just paint them and call it a day. They are
>> really cheesy though, I would like new doors.
>>
>> Geeze.. it does look like more than I thought.
>>
>> What are you doing on the house you're working on?
>>
>> Kate
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Kate

Sounds like a good job, lots of work to do.
So, what is YOUR opinion on countertops?
I cannot afford solid granite - period. I thought the tile might be a good
choice cut now I realize it has a very slightly mitered edge, this will
enlarge the toothpick sized grout line that I had planned.

So, I am half considering other options. Trouble is, I already spent $900 on
the tiles I have - I think sometimes I am an idiot, and things like this
just porve it.

I'd love to see some photos of your project.
Wanna see my floor?

Kate


"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:DsOdnUb8bJln3AbYnZ2dnUVZ_ualnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Kate,
>
> I've got some Hardi-Plank siding to finish on one gable end, then we
> need to stain and hang some cedar shake siding for the two tall gable
> ends. We floated the 6x6 shower stall's floor today, and we'll tile it
> tomorrow or the next day. We have a little more travertine to put on the
> shower stall walls, and three granite countertops to make. We also have
> one more header piece for some of the floor joists, the front and rear
> patios to pour and set the posts in.
>
> The master shower is AMAZING. It's basicaly 6x6 with four shower heads and
> a handheld. Completely tile, mostly travertine.
>
> We're also starting an attached shop to an existing home, 28x28 with a
> breezeway..
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
> news:GuGmh.18494$h_1.9017@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>>
>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>> news:ur6dnQ74LtIbLATYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Kate, I feel the same way, except the house I'm working on is for a
>>> customer. What do you guys have left to do?
>>>
>>> Carl
>>
>> Really, not so much, but I'm tired.. just tired.
>> We have to tile one bathroom floor, it's a small room and only a half
>> bath off of the litchen. Then tile the even smaller pantry floor and then
>> grout the entire area. We are going to rebuild the cabinet in the
>> bathroom, replace the sink and faucet and tile the countertop
>> (Travertine)
>>
>> Then... we still need to get our baseboards up in the dining room and
>> kitchen. Patch and paint walls, there were some BAD moves on electrical
>> boxes so some fairly large patches that need repairing and the walls here
>> are smooth, so it's kind of tedious. We are thinking of putting wainscot
>> in that area but if we do then I'll have to paint the fireplace, and I am
>> not crazy about that idea either.
>>
>> THEN we are going to redo the kitchen countertops. We have sombeautifu;
>> granite tile but I am having second thoughts. Then lastly, refinishing
>> the kitchen cabinets and maybe replacing the doors, which means we will
>> have to build them. I may just paint them and call it a day. They are
>> really cheesy though, I would like new doors.
>>
>> Geeze.. it does look like more than I thought.
>>
>> What are you doing on the house you're working on?
>>
>> Kate
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Kate

Sounds like a good job, lots of work to do.
So, what is YOUR opinion on countertops?
I cannot afford solid granite - period. I thought the tile might be a good
choice cut now I realize it has a very slightly mitered edge, this will
enlarge the toothpick sized grout line that I had planned.

So, I am half considering other options. Trouble is, I already spent $900 on
the tiles I have - I think sometimes I am an idiot, and things like this
just porve it.

I'd love to see some photos of your project.
Wanna see my floor?

Kate


"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:DsOdnUb8bJln3AbYnZ2dnUVZ_ualnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Kate,
>
> I've got some Hardi-Plank siding to finish on one gable end, then we
> need to stain and hang some cedar shake siding for the two tall gable
> ends. We floated the 6x6 shower stall's floor today, and we'll tile it
> tomorrow or the next day. We have a little more travertine to put on the
> shower stall walls, and three granite countertops to make. We also have
> one more header piece for some of the floor joists, the front and rear
> patios to pour and set the posts in.
>
> The master shower is AMAZING. It's basicaly 6x6 with four shower heads and
> a handheld. Completely tile, mostly travertine.
>
> We're also starting an attached shop to an existing home, 28x28 with a
> breezeway..
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
> news:GuGmh.18494$h_1.9017@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>>
>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>> news:ur6dnQ74LtIbLATYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Kate, I feel the same way, except the house I'm working on is for a
>>> customer. What do you guys have left to do?
>>>
>>> Carl
>>
>> Really, not so much, but I'm tired.. just tired.
>> We have to tile one bathroom floor, it's a small room and only a half
>> bath off of the litchen. Then tile the even smaller pantry floor and then
>> grout the entire area. We are going to rebuild the cabinet in the
>> bathroom, replace the sink and faucet and tile the countertop
>> (Travertine)
>>
>> Then... we still need to get our baseboards up in the dining room and
>> kitchen. Patch and paint walls, there were some BAD moves on electrical
>> boxes so some fairly large patches that need repairing and the walls here
>> are smooth, so it's kind of tedious. We are thinking of putting wainscot
>> in that area but if we do then I'll have to paint the fireplace, and I am
>> not crazy about that idea either.
>>
>> THEN we are going to redo the kitchen countertops. We have sombeautifu;
>> granite tile but I am having second thoughts. Then lastly, refinishing
>> the kitchen cabinets and maybe replacing the doors, which means we will
>> have to build them. I may just paint them and call it a day. They are
>> really cheesy though, I would like new doors.
>>
>> Geeze.. it does look like more than I thought.
>>
>> What are you doing on the house you're working on?
>>
>> Kate
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Carl

Kate,

I like to put 3/4" plywood on the cabinets, 1/2" hardi-backer (fiber
cement board) and then granite or ceramic tile on top. Then i'll cut a rip
of tile and put it on the front, and chamfer the edge a little bit. If you
use the granite tiles it comes out looking pretty slick, like a near 2" slab
of granite. I like to use the 1/16" "+" spacers, but installed with only the
down side in, instead of layed flat. This means you need four times as many,
but you can pull them out after the tile is set. Either way, I would
reccomend 1/16" to 1/8" grout gap, if you are using non-sanded. We use 3/16"
on floor tiles, but 1/16" on counter tops and shower walls. Too thin of a
grout line just won't hold up to the high stress and water contact of a
counter top, nor will too thick.

Another option to consider is a broken tile backsplash. This seems to work
better with lots of colored tiles, but I suppose it would work with granite,
too. Basically break the tiles into pieces you like the size of, put the
glue on the wall and stick them into a pattern you like. I have always
thought this was pretty slick looking.

Either way you go, I really reccomend the Hardi-Backer. It comes in 3x5
sheets and it's heavy as crap. Don't get wonderboard, it isn't as consistent
as the hardi-backer, and the edges fall apart easily.

If you have any other questions, I'd be happy to help if I can.

Some old pictures of the house are at:
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/

I'll get some new ones this week or next showing all the interior work. It
is REALLY slick inside!

I would LOVE to see some pics of your project!

Carl



"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
news:3HZmh.18218$641.1518@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> Sounds like a good job, lots of work to do.
> So, what is YOUR opinion on countertops?
> I cannot afford solid granite - period. I thought the tile might be a good
> choice cut now I realize it has a very slightly mitered edge, this will
> enlarge the toothpick sized grout line that I had planned.
>
> So, I am half considering other options. Trouble is, I already spent $900
> on the tiles I have - I think sometimes I am an idiot, and things like
> this just porve it.
>
> I'd love to see some photos of your project.
> Wanna see my floor?
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:DsOdnUb8bJln3AbYnZ2dnUVZ_ualnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Kate,
>>
>> I've got some Hardi-Plank siding to finish on one gable end, then we
>> need to stain and hang some cedar shake siding for the two tall gable
>> ends. We floated the 6x6 shower stall's floor today, and we'll tile it
>> tomorrow or the next day. We have a little more travertine to put on the
>> shower stall walls, and three granite countertops to make. We also have
>> one more header piece for some of the floor joists, the front and rear
>> patios to pour and set the posts in.
>>
>> The master shower is AMAZING. It's basicaly 6x6 with four shower heads
>> and a handheld. Completely tile, mostly travertine.
>>
>> We're also starting an attached shop to an existing home, 28x28 with a
>> breezeway..
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>> news:GuGmh.18494$h_1.9017@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>
>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ur6dnQ74LtIbLATYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> Kate, I feel the same way, except the house I'm working on is for a
>>>> customer. What do you guys have left to do?
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>
>>> Really, not so much, but I'm tired.. just tired.
>>> We have to tile one bathroom floor, it's a small room and only a half
>>> bath off of the litchen. Then tile the even smaller pantry floor and
>>> then grout the entire area. We are going to rebuild the cabinet in the
>>> bathroom, replace the sink and faucet and tile the countertop
>>> (Travertine)
>>>
>>> Then... we still need to get our baseboards up in the dining room and
>>> kitchen. Patch and paint walls, there were some BAD moves on electrical
>>> boxes so some fairly large patches that need repairing and the walls
>>> here are smooth, so it's kind of tedious. We are thinking of putting
>>> wainscot in that area but if we do then I'll have to paint the
>>> fireplace, and I am not crazy about that idea either.
>>>
>>> THEN we are going to redo the kitchen countertops. We have sombeautifu;
>>> granite tile but I am having second thoughts. Then lastly, refinishing
>>> the kitchen cabinets and maybe replacing the doors, which means we will
>>> have to build them. I may just paint them and call it a day. They are
>>> really cheesy though, I would like new doors.
>>>
>>> Geeze.. it does look like more than I thought.
>>>
>>> What are you doing on the house you're working on?
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Carl

Kate,

I like to put 3/4" plywood on the cabinets, 1/2" hardi-backer (fiber
cement board) and then granite or ceramic tile on top. Then i'll cut a rip
of tile and put it on the front, and chamfer the edge a little bit. If you
use the granite tiles it comes out looking pretty slick, like a near 2" slab
of granite. I like to use the 1/16" "+" spacers, but installed with only the
down side in, instead of layed flat. This means you need four times as many,
but you can pull them out after the tile is set. Either way, I would
reccomend 1/16" to 1/8" grout gap, if you are using non-sanded. We use 3/16"
on floor tiles, but 1/16" on counter tops and shower walls. Too thin of a
grout line just won't hold up to the high stress and water contact of a
counter top, nor will too thick.

Another option to consider is a broken tile backsplash. This seems to work
better with lots of colored tiles, but I suppose it would work with granite,
too. Basically break the tiles into pieces you like the size of, put the
glue on the wall and stick them into a pattern you like. I have always
thought this was pretty slick looking.

Either way you go, I really reccomend the Hardi-Backer. It comes in 3x5
sheets and it's heavy as crap. Don't get wonderboard, it isn't as consistent
as the hardi-backer, and the edges fall apart easily.

If you have any other questions, I'd be happy to help if I can.

Some old pictures of the house are at:
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/

I'll get some new ones this week or next showing all the interior work. It
is REALLY slick inside!

I would LOVE to see some pics of your project!

Carl



"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
news:3HZmh.18218$641.1518@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> Sounds like a good job, lots of work to do.
> So, what is YOUR opinion on countertops?
> I cannot afford solid granite - period. I thought the tile might be a good
> choice cut now I realize it has a very slightly mitered edge, this will
> enlarge the toothpick sized grout line that I had planned.
>
> So, I am half considering other options. Trouble is, I already spent $900
> on the tiles I have - I think sometimes I am an idiot, and things like
> this just porve it.
>
> I'd love to see some photos of your project.
> Wanna see my floor?
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:DsOdnUb8bJln3AbYnZ2dnUVZ_ualnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Kate,
>>
>> I've got some Hardi-Plank siding to finish on one gable end, then we
>> need to stain and hang some cedar shake siding for the two tall gable
>> ends. We floated the 6x6 shower stall's floor today, and we'll tile it
>> tomorrow or the next day. We have a little more travertine to put on the
>> shower stall walls, and three granite countertops to make. We also have
>> one more header piece for some of the floor joists, the front and rear
>> patios to pour and set the posts in.
>>
>> The master shower is AMAZING. It's basicaly 6x6 with four shower heads
>> and a handheld. Completely tile, mostly travertine.
>>
>> We're also starting an attached shop to an existing home, 28x28 with a
>> breezeway..
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>> news:GuGmh.18494$h_1.9017@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>
>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ur6dnQ74LtIbLATYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> Kate, I feel the same way, except the house I'm working on is for a
>>>> customer. What do you guys have left to do?
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>
>>> Really, not so much, but I'm tired.. just tired.
>>> We have to tile one bathroom floor, it's a small room and only a half
>>> bath off of the litchen. Then tile the even smaller pantry floor and
>>> then grout the entire area. We are going to rebuild the cabinet in the
>>> bathroom, replace the sink and faucet and tile the countertop
>>> (Travertine)
>>>
>>> Then... we still need to get our baseboards up in the dining room and
>>> kitchen. Patch and paint walls, there were some BAD moves on electrical
>>> boxes so some fairly large patches that need repairing and the walls
>>> here are smooth, so it's kind of tedious. We are thinking of putting
>>> wainscot in that area but if we do then I'll have to paint the
>>> fireplace, and I am not crazy about that idea either.
>>>
>>> THEN we are going to redo the kitchen countertops. We have sombeautifu;
>>> granite tile but I am having second thoughts. Then lastly, refinishing
>>> the kitchen cabinets and maybe replacing the doors, which means we will
>>> have to build them. I may just paint them and call it a day. They are
>>> really cheesy though, I would like new doors.
>>>
>>> Geeze.. it does look like more than I thought.
>>>
>>> What are you doing on the house you're working on?
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Carl

Kate,

I like to put 3/4" plywood on the cabinets, 1/2" hardi-backer (fiber
cement board) and then granite or ceramic tile on top. Then i'll cut a rip
of tile and put it on the front, and chamfer the edge a little bit. If you
use the granite tiles it comes out looking pretty slick, like a near 2" slab
of granite. I like to use the 1/16" "+" spacers, but installed with only the
down side in, instead of layed flat. This means you need four times as many,
but you can pull them out after the tile is set. Either way, I would
reccomend 1/16" to 1/8" grout gap, if you are using non-sanded. We use 3/16"
on floor tiles, but 1/16" on counter tops and shower walls. Too thin of a
grout line just won't hold up to the high stress and water contact of a
counter top, nor will too thick.

Another option to consider is a broken tile backsplash. This seems to work
better with lots of colored tiles, but I suppose it would work with granite,
too. Basically break the tiles into pieces you like the size of, put the
glue on the wall and stick them into a pattern you like. I have always
thought this was pretty slick looking.

Either way you go, I really reccomend the Hardi-Backer. It comes in 3x5
sheets and it's heavy as crap. Don't get wonderboard, it isn't as consistent
as the hardi-backer, and the edges fall apart easily.

If you have any other questions, I'd be happy to help if I can.

Some old pictures of the house are at:
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/

I'll get some new ones this week or next showing all the interior work. It
is REALLY slick inside!

I would LOVE to see some pics of your project!

Carl



"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
news:3HZmh.18218$641.1518@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> Sounds like a good job, lots of work to do.
> So, what is YOUR opinion on countertops?
> I cannot afford solid granite - period. I thought the tile might be a good
> choice cut now I realize it has a very slightly mitered edge, this will
> enlarge the toothpick sized grout line that I had planned.
>
> So, I am half considering other options. Trouble is, I already spent $900
> on the tiles I have - I think sometimes I am an idiot, and things like
> this just porve it.
>
> I'd love to see some photos of your project.
> Wanna see my floor?
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:DsOdnUb8bJln3AbYnZ2dnUVZ_ualnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Kate,
>>
>> I've got some Hardi-Plank siding to finish on one gable end, then we
>> need to stain and hang some cedar shake siding for the two tall gable
>> ends. We floated the 6x6 shower stall's floor today, and we'll tile it
>> tomorrow or the next day. We have a little more travertine to put on the
>> shower stall walls, and three granite countertops to make. We also have
>> one more header piece for some of the floor joists, the front and rear
>> patios to pour and set the posts in.
>>
>> The master shower is AMAZING. It's basicaly 6x6 with four shower heads
>> and a handheld. Completely tile, mostly travertine.
>>
>> We're also starting an attached shop to an existing home, 28x28 with a
>> breezeway..
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>> news:GuGmh.18494$h_1.9017@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>
>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ur6dnQ74LtIbLATYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> Kate, I feel the same way, except the house I'm working on is for a
>>>> customer. What do you guys have left to do?
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>
>>> Really, not so much, but I'm tired.. just tired.
>>> We have to tile one bathroom floor, it's a small room and only a half
>>> bath off of the litchen. Then tile the even smaller pantry floor and
>>> then grout the entire area. We are going to rebuild the cabinet in the
>>> bathroom, replace the sink and faucet and tile the countertop
>>> (Travertine)
>>>
>>> Then... we still need to get our baseboards up in the dining room and
>>> kitchen. Patch and paint walls, there were some BAD moves on electrical
>>> boxes so some fairly large patches that need repairing and the walls
>>> here are smooth, so it's kind of tedious. We are thinking of putting
>>> wainscot in that area but if we do then I'll have to paint the
>>> fireplace, and I am not crazy about that idea either.
>>>
>>> THEN we are going to redo the kitchen countertops. We have sombeautifu;
>>> granite tile but I am having second thoughts. Then lastly, refinishing
>>> the kitchen cabinets and maybe replacing the doors, which means we will
>>> have to build them. I may just paint them and call it a day. They are
>>> really cheesy though, I would like new doors.
>>>
>>> Geeze.. it does look like more than I thought.
>>>
>>> What are you doing on the house you're working on?
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Masnor

When the Dealer was trying to fix it, the parts list had the correct fluid
id, according to the manual. However, when the one-man transmission shop
worked on it, he thought the fluid was too thick to be correct. I'm not
positive what's in it now, but it feels exactly the same and when the Dealer
was working on it.

I'm just afraid that if I replace the transmmission, that the symptoms will
still be there and that the problem will have been something else. But, I
can't really imagine what else could cause it.

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:DbydnaDXb-Ij-wfYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@comcast.com...
> That transmission calls for a specific fluid, Pennzoil Syncromesh Manual
> Transmission Fluid. It does not use standard gear oil.
>
> "Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Lzimh.8268$2U4.826@newsfe16.lga...
>> Thanks for the response.
>>
>> It's not been submerged, not before or after any of the rebuilds.
>>
>> I'm going to try different fluids and maybe some additives before looking
>> for a used replacement. But I may drop by some of the junk yards and see
>> what they are selling for.
>>
>> Masnor
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45981656.7462D9D0@sympatico.ca...
>>>I would figure any more spent on that tranny would be just throwing good
>>> money after bad. It is toast in my mind. Bad cast maybe.
>>>
>>> I would be looking around at the wreckers for one.
>>>
>>> Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last 1000
>>> miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
>>> submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Masnor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have a 2000 Wrangler with a 4 liter and manual five speed. I'm the
>>>> second
>>>> owner and the first owner was a nurse that used the jeep as a highway
>>>> commuter car. The jeep has not been wrecked, rolled, or ever stuck.
>>>>
>>>> Over a year ago the reverse lockout pin was found (broken) while
>>>> changing
>>>> the transmission fluid. I took it to the dealer under warranty and
>>>> they
>>>> rebuilt the transmission. However, as soon as I picked up the Jeep
>>>> there
>>>> was a shift problem. That's when upshifting into 2ndfelt like a tooth
>>>> or two
>>>> was grinding past. It would shift and stay in 2nd gear, but it was
>>>> like the
>>>> clutch was only partially depressed while upshifting - like a lazy
>>>> upshift
>>>> micro-grind. Shifting up to 3rd had a similar feel, but was less
>>>> noticeable. Downshifting was as it should be. No grind, but smooth
>>>> shifting.
>>>>
>>>> So, I took it back of course. They tried a number of things, including
>>>> rebuilding the transmission, clutch, throwout bearing, etc. Nothing
>>>> helped.
>>>> And after five overnight trips to the dealer (30 miles away) they told
>>>> me
>>>> there was nothing they could do. When they test drove it, it was like
>>>> they
>>>> were driving the Pope-mobile and they would always take about three
>>>> seconds
>>>> to shift from one gear to the next - and with that time lag, the
>>>> problem is
>>>> less noticeable - but I could still hear it from the passenger seat.
>>>> However, that kind of shift is not normal or comfortable. I didn't
>>>> throw a
>>>> big enough fit and the warranty eventually expired.
>>>>
>>>> The problem stayed and eventually got to the point of occasional full
>>>> fledged grinds when shifting into second. Before having a lift put in
>>>> the
>>>> Wrangler I wanted to be sure the transmission was going to be good for
>>>> the
>>>> next 50,000 miles or so, so I took it to a one man transmission shop
>>>> that
>>>> was recommended by a long time general automotive mechanic I have known
>>>> for
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> He couldn't find anything really wrong with the transmission except a
>>>> little
>>>> abrasion on the shaft - and he replaced the shaft. He thought the
>>>> dealer
>>>> had been using the wrong fluid and initially the transmission shifted
>>>> better
>>>> with the fluid he used. However, after only about 1,000 miles, the
>>>> shifting
>>>> problem (not the all out grind) is back.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, while it was shifting better, I had a lot of work done
>>>> on the
>>>> Jeep. Now I have a 4 inch lift, new tires, new differentials, and new
>>>> drive
>>>> shaft, but the transmission is annoying as hell. I can shift REAL
>>>> slow, or
>>>> double clutch when going up to 2nd, but that's not a cure, there is
>>>> still
>>>> something not meshing like it should.
>>>>
>>>> So, finally, any suggestions? I've even starting thinking of a new
>>>> transmission, but the wife is going to kill me if it comes to that.
>>>>
>>>> Masnor@***.net
>>
>>
>
>

Masnor

When the Dealer was trying to fix it, the parts list had the correct fluid
id, according to the manual. However, when the one-man transmission shop
worked on it, he thought the fluid was too thick to be correct. I'm not
positive what's in it now, but it feels exactly the same and when the Dealer
was working on it.

I'm just afraid that if I replace the transmmission, that the symptoms will
still be there and that the problem will have been something else. But, I
can't really imagine what else could cause it.

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:DbydnaDXb-Ij-wfYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@comcast.com...
> That transmission calls for a specific fluid, Pennzoil Syncromesh Manual
> Transmission Fluid. It does not use standard gear oil.
>
> "Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Lzimh.8268$2U4.826@newsfe16.lga...
>> Thanks for the response.
>>
>> It's not been submerged, not before or after any of the rebuilds.
>>
>> I'm going to try different fluids and maybe some additives before looking
>> for a used replacement. But I may drop by some of the junk yards and see
>> what they are selling for.
>>
>> Masnor
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45981656.7462D9D0@sympatico.ca...
>>>I would figure any more spent on that tranny would be just throwing good
>>> money after bad. It is toast in my mind. Bad cast maybe.
>>>
>>> I would be looking around at the wreckers for one.
>>>
>>> Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last 1000
>>> miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
>>> submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Masnor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have a 2000 Wrangler with a 4 liter and manual five speed. I'm the
>>>> second
>>>> owner and the first owner was a nurse that used the jeep as a highway
>>>> commuter car. The jeep has not been wrecked, rolled, or ever stuck.
>>>>
>>>> Over a year ago the reverse lockout pin was found (broken) while
>>>> changing
>>>> the transmission fluid. I took it to the dealer under warranty and
>>>> they
>>>> rebuilt the transmission. However, as soon as I picked up the Jeep
>>>> there
>>>> was a shift problem. That's when upshifting into 2ndfelt like a tooth
>>>> or two
>>>> was grinding past. It would shift and stay in 2nd gear, but it was
>>>> like the
>>>> clutch was only partially depressed while upshifting - like a lazy
>>>> upshift
>>>> micro-grind. Shifting up to 3rd had a similar feel, but was less
>>>> noticeable. Downshifting was as it should be. No grind, but smooth
>>>> shifting.
>>>>
>>>> So, I took it back of course. They tried a number of things, including
>>>> rebuilding the transmission, clutch, throwout bearing, etc. Nothing
>>>> helped.
>>>> And after five overnight trips to the dealer (30 miles away) they told
>>>> me
>>>> there was nothing they could do. When they test drove it, it was like
>>>> they
>>>> were driving the Pope-mobile and they would always take about three
>>>> seconds
>>>> to shift from one gear to the next - and with that time lag, the
>>>> problem is
>>>> less noticeable - but I could still hear it from the passenger seat.
>>>> However, that kind of shift is not normal or comfortable. I didn't
>>>> throw a
>>>> big enough fit and the warranty eventually expired.
>>>>
>>>> The problem stayed and eventually got to the point of occasional full
>>>> fledged grinds when shifting into second. Before having a lift put in
>>>> the
>>>> Wrangler I wanted to be sure the transmission was going to be good for
>>>> the
>>>> next 50,000 miles or so, so I took it to a one man transmission shop
>>>> that
>>>> was recommended by a long time general automotive mechanic I have known
>>>> for
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> He couldn't find anything really wrong with the transmission except a
>>>> little
>>>> abrasion on the shaft - and he replaced the shaft. He thought the
>>>> dealer
>>>> had been using the wrong fluid and initially the transmission shifted
>>>> better
>>>> with the fluid he used. However, after only about 1,000 miles, the
>>>> shifting
>>>> problem (not the all out grind) is back.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, while it was shifting better, I had a lot of work done
>>>> on the
>>>> Jeep. Now I have a 4 inch lift, new tires, new differentials, and new
>>>> drive
>>>> shaft, but the transmission is annoying as hell. I can shift REAL
>>>> slow, or
>>>> double clutch when going up to 2nd, but that's not a cure, there is
>>>> still
>>>> something not meshing like it should.
>>>>
>>>> So, finally, any suggestions? I've even starting thinking of a new
>>>> transmission, but the wife is going to kill me if it comes to that.
>>>>
>>>> Masnor@***.net
>>
>>
>
>

Masnor

When the Dealer was trying to fix it, the parts list had the correct fluid
id, according to the manual. However, when the one-man transmission shop
worked on it, he thought the fluid was too thick to be correct. I'm not
positive what's in it now, but it feels exactly the same and when the Dealer
was working on it.

I'm just afraid that if I replace the transmmission, that the symptoms will
still be there and that the problem will have been something else. But, I
can't really imagine what else could cause it.

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:DbydnaDXb-Ij-wfYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@comcast.com...
> That transmission calls for a specific fluid, Pennzoil Syncromesh Manual
> Transmission Fluid. It does not use standard gear oil.
>
> "Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Lzimh.8268$2U4.826@newsfe16.lga...
>> Thanks for the response.
>>
>> It's not been submerged, not before or after any of the rebuilds.
>>
>> I'm going to try different fluids and maybe some additives before looking
>> for a used replacement. But I may drop by some of the junk yards and see
>> what they are selling for.
>>
>> Masnor
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45981656.7462D9D0@sympatico.ca...
>>>I would figure any more spent on that tranny would be just throwing good
>>> money after bad. It is toast in my mind. Bad cast maybe.
>>>
>>> I would be looking around at the wreckers for one.
>>>
>>> Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last 1000
>>> miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
>>> submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Masnor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have a 2000 Wrangler with a 4 liter and manual five speed. I'm the
>>>> second
>>>> owner and the first owner was a nurse that used the jeep as a highway
>>>> commuter car. The jeep has not been wrecked, rolled, or ever stuck.
>>>>
>>>> Over a year ago the reverse lockout pin was found (broken) while
>>>> changing
>>>> the transmission fluid. I took it to the dealer under warranty and
>>>> they
>>>> rebuilt the transmission. However, as soon as I picked up the Jeep
>>>> there
>>>> was a shift problem. That's when upshifting into 2ndfelt like a tooth
>>>> or two
>>>> was grinding past. It would shift and stay in 2nd gear, but it was
>>>> like the
>>>> clutch was only partially depressed while upshifting - like a lazy
>>>> upshift
>>>> micro-grind. Shifting up to 3rd had a similar feel, but was less
>>>> noticeable. Downshifting was as it should be. No grind, but smooth
>>>> shifting.
>>>>
>>>> So, I took it back of course. They tried a number of things, including
>>>> rebuilding the transmission, clutch, throwout bearing, etc. Nothing
>>>> helped.
>>>> And after five overnight trips to the dealer (30 miles away) they told
>>>> me
>>>> there was nothing they could do. When they test drove it, it was like
>>>> they
>>>> were driving the Pope-mobile and they would always take about three
>>>> seconds
>>>> to shift from one gear to the next - and with that time lag, the
>>>> problem is
>>>> less noticeable - but I could still hear it from the passenger seat.
>>>> However, that kind of shift is not normal or comfortable. I didn't
>>>> throw a
>>>> big enough fit and the warranty eventually expired.
>>>>
>>>> The problem stayed and eventually got to the point of occasional full
>>>> fledged grinds when shifting into second. Before having a lift put in
>>>> the
>>>> Wrangler I wanted to be sure the transmission was going to be good for
>>>> the
>>>> next 50,000 miles or so, so I took it to a one man transmission shop
>>>> that
>>>> was recommended by a long time general automotive mechanic I have known
>>>> for
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> He couldn't find anything really wrong with the transmission except a
>>>> little
>>>> abrasion on the shaft - and he replaced the shaft. He thought the
>>>> dealer
>>>> had been using the wrong fluid and initially the transmission shifted
>>>> better
>>>> with the fluid he used. However, after only about 1,000 miles, the
>>>> shifting
>>>> problem (not the all out grind) is back.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, while it was shifting better, I had a lot of work done
>>>> on the
>>>> Jeep. Now I have a 4 inch lift, new tires, new differentials, and new
>>>> drive
>>>> shaft, but the transmission is annoying as hell. I can shift REAL
>>>> slow, or
>>>> double clutch when going up to 2nd, but that's not a cure, there is
>>>> still
>>>> something not meshing like it should.
>>>>
>>>> So, finally, any suggestions? I've even starting thinking of a new
>>>> transmission, but the wife is going to kill me if it comes to that.
>>>>
>>>> Masnor@***.net
>>
>>
>
>

Masnor

When the Dealer was trying to fix it, the parts list had the correct fluid
id, according to the manual. However, when the one-man transmission shop
worked on it, he thought the fluid was too thick to be correct. I'm not
positive what's in it now, but it feels exactly the same and when the Dealer
was working on it.

I'm just afraid that if I replace the transmmission, that the symptoms will
still be there and that the problem will have been something else. But, I
can't really imagine what else could cause it.

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:DbydnaDXb-Ij-wfYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@comcast.com...
> That transmission calls for a specific fluid, Pennzoil Syncromesh Manual
> Transmission Fluid. It does not use standard gear oil.
>
> "Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Lzimh.8268$2U4.826@newsfe16.lga...
>> Thanks for the response.
>>
>> It's not been submerged, not before or after any of the rebuilds.
>>
>> I'm going to try different fluids and maybe some additives before looking
>> for a used replacement. But I may drop by some of the junk yards and see
>> what they are selling for.
>>
>> Masnor
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45981656.7462D9D0@sympatico.ca...
>>>I would figure any more spent on that tranny would be just throwing good
>>> money after bad. It is toast in my mind. Bad cast maybe.
>>>
>>> I would be looking around at the wreckers for one.
>>>
>>> Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last 1000
>>> miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
>>> submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Masnor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have a 2000 Wrangler with a 4 liter and manual five speed. I'm the
>>>> second
>>>> owner and the first owner was a nurse that used the jeep as a highway
>>>> commuter car. The jeep has not been wrecked, rolled, or ever stuck.
>>>>
>>>> Over a year ago the reverse lockout pin was found (broken) while
>>>> changing
>>>> the transmission fluid. I took it to the dealer under warranty and
>>>> they
>>>> rebuilt the transmission. However, as soon as I picked up the Jeep
>>>> there
>>>> was a shift problem. That's when upshifting into 2ndfelt like a tooth
>>>> or two
>>>> was grinding past. It would shift and stay in 2nd gear, but it was
>>>> like the
>>>> clutch was only partially depressed while upshifting - like a lazy
>>>> upshift
>>>> micro-grind. Shifting up to 3rd had a similar feel, but was less
>>>> noticeable. Downshifting was as it should be. No grind, but smooth
>>>> shifting.
>>>>
>>>> So, I took it back of course. They tried a number of things, including
>>>> rebuilding the transmission, clutch, throwout bearing, etc. Nothing
>>>> helped.
>>>> And after five overnight trips to the dealer (30 miles away) they told
>>>> me
>>>> there was nothing they could do. When they test drove it, it was like
>>>> they
>>>> were driving the Pope-mobile and they would always take about three
>>>> seconds
>>>> to shift from one gear to the next - and with that time lag, the
>>>> problem is
>>>> less noticeable - but I could still hear it from the passenger seat.
>>>> However, that kind of shift is not normal or comfortable. I didn't
>>>> throw a
>>>> big enough fit and the warranty eventually expired.
>>>>
>>>> The problem stayed and eventually got to the point of occasional full
>>>> fledged grinds when shifting into second. Before having a lift put in
>>>> the
>>>> Wrangler I wanted to be sure the transmission was going to be good for
>>>> the
>>>> next 50,000 miles or so, so I took it to a one man transmission shop
>>>> that
>>>> was recommended by a long time general automotive mechanic I have known
>>>> for
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> He couldn't find anything really wrong with the transmission except a
>>>> little
>>>> abrasion on the shaft - and he replaced the shaft. He thought the
>>>> dealer
>>>> had been using the wrong fluid and initially the transmission shifted
>>>> better
>>>> with the fluid he used. However, after only about 1,000 miles, the
>>>> shifting
>>>> problem (not the all out grind) is back.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, while it was shifting better, I had a lot of work done
>>>> on the
>>>> Jeep. Now I have a 4 inch lift, new tires, new differentials, and new
>>>> drive
>>>> shaft, but the transmission is annoying as hell. I can shift REAL
>>>> slow, or
>>>> double clutch when going up to 2nd, but that's not a cure, there is
>>>> still
>>>> something not meshing like it should.
>>>>
>>>> So, finally, any suggestions? I've even starting thinking of a new
>>>> transmission, but the wife is going to kill me if it comes to that.
>>>>
>>>> Masnor@***.net
>>
>>
>
>