Kate, I feel the same way, except the house I'm working on is for a
customer. What do you guys have left to do?

Carl

"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
news:Gfimh.14007$U12.5395@bignews1.bellsouth.net.. .
>I told my hubby about this, we will have a look in the next day or two.
> Todeay was ANOTHER trip to Lowes *sigh*
> I hope we get this damn house finished soon. I'm sick of it!
>
> Kate
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:2Iednb3gwfKg5gTYnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Kate,
>>
>> Not sure about the rubicon, but most of the diffs have the same
>> problem. Just do like mike said, get some trans cooler hose, pull off the
>> cap, slip the hose on and route it into the engine compartment.
>>
>> I like to cap mine with a small breather to keep mud and water out, but
>> if one's not availible or it fell out, a knot works just as well.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>> news:QnZlh.15619$641.7137@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>> Thank you Mike,
>>> I'll add that to my "Smart Things to do" list
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:45984894.63945699@sympatico.ca...
>>>> Yes. I pulled the button vent out of mine and put a piece of steel gas
>>>> line in for a hose nipple. It pressed in but I JB welded it anyway. I
>>>> them added a piece of transmission cooler line and ran that up by the
>>>> battery and hooked it in an upside down U or cane handle shape.
>>>>
>>>> There were write-ups for various tranny models, not sure about the new
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>
>>>> Kate wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Can something be modified to prevent this mike?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last
>>>>> > 1000
>>>>> > miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up
>>>>> > if
>>>>> > submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

Kate, I feel the same way, except the house I'm working on is for a
customer. What do you guys have left to do?

Carl

"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
news:Gfimh.14007$U12.5395@bignews1.bellsouth.net.. .
>I told my hubby about this, we will have a look in the next day or two.
> Todeay was ANOTHER trip to Lowes *sigh*
> I hope we get this damn house finished soon. I'm sick of it!
>
> Kate
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:2Iednb3gwfKg5gTYnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Kate,
>>
>> Not sure about the rubicon, but most of the diffs have the same
>> problem. Just do like mike said, get some trans cooler hose, pull off the
>> cap, slip the hose on and route it into the engine compartment.
>>
>> I like to cap mine with a small breather to keep mud and water out, but
>> if one's not availible or it fell out, a knot works just as well.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>> news:QnZlh.15619$641.7137@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>>> Thank you Mike,
>>> I'll add that to my "Smart Things to do" list
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:45984894.63945699@sympatico.ca...
>>>> Yes. I pulled the button vent out of mine and put a piece of steel gas
>>>> line in for a hose nipple. It pressed in but I JB welded it anyway. I
>>>> them added a piece of transmission cooler line and ran that up by the
>>>> battery and hooked it in an upside down U or cane handle shape.
>>>>
>>>> There were write-ups for various tranny models, not sure about the new
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>
>>>> Kate wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Can something be modified to prevent this mike?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last
>>>>> > 1000
>>>>> > miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up
>>>>> > if
>>>>> > submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

Thanks for the response.

It's not been submerged, not before or after any of the rebuilds.

I'm going to try different fluids and maybe some additives before looking
for a used replacement. But I may drop by some of the junk yards and see
what they are selling for.

Masnor


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45981656.7462D9D0@sympatico.ca...
>I would figure any more spent on that tranny would be just throwing good
> money after bad. It is toast in my mind. Bad cast maybe.
>
> I would be looking around at the wreckers for one.
>
> Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last 1000
> miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
> submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Masnor wrote:
>>
>> I have a 2000 Wrangler with a 4 liter and manual five speed. I'm the
>> second
>> owner and the first owner was a nurse that used the jeep as a highway
>> commuter car. The jeep has not been wrecked, rolled, or ever stuck.
>>
>> Over a year ago the reverse lockout pin was found (broken) while changing
>> the transmission fluid. I took it to the dealer under warranty and they
>> rebuilt the transmission. However, as soon as I picked up the Jeep there
>> was a shift problem. That's when upshifting into 2ndfelt like a tooth or
>> two
>> was grinding past. It would shift and stay in 2nd gear, but it was like
>> the
>> clutch was only partially depressed while upshifting - like a lazy
>> upshift
>> micro-grind. Shifting up to 3rd had a similar feel, but was less
>> noticeable. Downshifting was as it should be. No grind, but smooth
>> shifting.
>>
>> So, I took it back of course. They tried a number of things, including
>> rebuilding the transmission, clutch, throwout bearing, etc. Nothing
>> helped.
>> And after five overnight trips to the dealer (30 miles away) they told me
>> there was nothing they could do. When they test drove it, it was like
>> they
>> were driving the Pope-mobile and they would always take about three
>> seconds
>> to shift from one gear to the next - and with that time lag, the problem
>> is
>> less noticeable - but I could still hear it from the passenger seat.
>> However, that kind of shift is not normal or comfortable. I didn't throw
>> a
>> big enough fit and the warranty eventually expired.
>>
>> The problem stayed and eventually got to the point of occasional full
>> fledged grinds when shifting into second. Before having a lift put in
>> the
>> Wrangler I wanted to be sure the transmission was going to be good for
>> the
>> next 50,000 miles or so, so I took it to a one man transmission shop that
>> was recommended by a long time general automotive mechanic I have known
>> for
>> years.
>>
>> He couldn't find anything really wrong with the transmission except a
>> little
>> abrasion on the shaft - and he replaced the shaft. He thought the dealer
>> had been using the wrong fluid and initially the transmission shifted
>> better
>> with the fluid he used. However, after only about 1,000 miles, the
>> shifting
>> problem (not the all out grind) is back.
>>
>> Unfortunately, while it was shifting better, I had a lot of work done on
>> the
>> Jeep. Now I have a 4 inch lift, new tires, new differentials, and new
>> drive
>> shaft, but the transmission is annoying as hell. I can shift REAL slow,
>> or
>> double clutch when going up to 2nd, but that's not a cure, there is still
>> something not meshing like it should.
>>
>> So, finally, any suggestions? I've even starting thinking of a new
>> transmission, but the wife is going to kill me if it comes to that.
>>
>> Masnor@***.net

 

Thanks for the response.

It's not been submerged, not before or after any of the rebuilds.

I'm going to try different fluids and maybe some additives before looking
for a used replacement. But I may drop by some of the junk yards and see
what they are selling for.

Masnor


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45981656.7462D9D0@sympatico.ca...
>I would figure any more spent on that tranny would be just throwing good
> money after bad. It is toast in my mind. Bad cast maybe.
>
> I would be looking around at the wreckers for one.
>
> Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last 1000
> miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
> submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Masnor wrote:
>>
>> I have a 2000 Wrangler with a 4 liter and manual five speed. I'm the
>> second
>> owner and the first owner was a nurse that used the jeep as a highway
>> commuter car. The jeep has not been wrecked, rolled, or ever stuck.
>>
>> Over a year ago the reverse lockout pin was found (broken) while changing
>> the transmission fluid. I took it to the dealer under warranty and they
>> rebuilt the transmission. However, as soon as I picked up the Jeep there
>> was a shift problem. That's when upshifting into 2ndfelt like a tooth or
>> two
>> was grinding past. It would shift and stay in 2nd gear, but it was like
>> the
>> clutch was only partially depressed while upshifting - like a lazy
>> upshift
>> micro-grind. Shifting up to 3rd had a similar feel, but was less
>> noticeable. Downshifting was as it should be. No grind, but smooth
>> shifting.
>>
>> So, I took it back of course. They tried a number of things, including
>> rebuilding the transmission, clutch, throwout bearing, etc. Nothing
>> helped.
>> And after five overnight trips to the dealer (30 miles away) they told me
>> there was nothing they could do. When they test drove it, it was like
>> they
>> were driving the Pope-mobile and they would always take about three
>> seconds
>> to shift from one gear to the next - and with that time lag, the problem
>> is
>> less noticeable - but I could still hear it from the passenger seat.
>> However, that kind of shift is not normal or comfortable. I didn't throw
>> a
>> big enough fit and the warranty eventually expired.
>>
>> The problem stayed and eventually got to the point of occasional full
>> fledged grinds when shifting into second. Before having a lift put in
>> the
>> Wrangler I wanted to be sure the transmission was going to be good for
>> the
>> next 50,000 miles or so, so I took it to a one man transmission shop that
>> was recommended by a long time general automotive mechanic I have known
>> for
>> years.
>>
>> He couldn't find anything really wrong with the transmission except a
>> little
>> abrasion on the shaft - and he replaced the shaft. He thought the dealer
>> had been using the wrong fluid and initially the transmission shifted
>> better
>> with the fluid he used. However, after only about 1,000 miles, the
>> shifting
>> problem (not the all out grind) is back.
>>
>> Unfortunately, while it was shifting better, I had a lot of work done on
>> the
>> Jeep. Now I have a 4 inch lift, new tires, new differentials, and new
>> drive
>> shaft, but the transmission is annoying as hell. I can shift REAL slow,
>> or
>> double clutch when going up to 2nd, but that's not a cure, there is still
>> something not meshing like it should.
>>
>> So, finally, any suggestions? I've even starting thinking of a new
>> transmission, but the wife is going to kill me if it comes to that.
>>
>> Masnor@***.net

 

Thanks for the response.

It's not been submerged, not before or after any of the rebuilds.

I'm going to try different fluids and maybe some additives before looking
for a used replacement. But I may drop by some of the junk yards and see
what they are selling for.

Masnor


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45981656.7462D9D0@sympatico.ca...
>I would figure any more spent on that tranny would be just throwing good
> money after bad. It is toast in my mind. Bad cast maybe.
>
> I would be looking around at the wreckers for one.
>
> Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last 1000
> miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
> submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Masnor wrote:
>>
>> I have a 2000 Wrangler with a 4 liter and manual five speed. I'm the
>> second
>> owner and the first owner was a nurse that used the jeep as a highway
>> commuter car. The jeep has not been wrecked, rolled, or ever stuck.
>>
>> Over a year ago the reverse lockout pin was found (broken) while changing
>> the transmission fluid. I took it to the dealer under warranty and they
>> rebuilt the transmission. However, as soon as I picked up the Jeep there
>> was a shift problem. That's when upshifting into 2ndfelt like a tooth or
>> two
>> was grinding past. It would shift and stay in 2nd gear, but it was like
>> the
>> clutch was only partially depressed while upshifting - like a lazy
>> upshift
>> micro-grind. Shifting up to 3rd had a similar feel, but was less
>> noticeable. Downshifting was as it should be. No grind, but smooth
>> shifting.
>>
>> So, I took it back of course. They tried a number of things, including
>> rebuilding the transmission, clutch, throwout bearing, etc. Nothing
>> helped.
>> And after five overnight trips to the dealer (30 miles away) they told me
>> there was nothing they could do. When they test drove it, it was like
>> they
>> were driving the Pope-mobile and they would always take about three
>> seconds
>> to shift from one gear to the next - and with that time lag, the problem
>> is
>> less noticeable - but I could still hear it from the passenger seat.
>> However, that kind of shift is not normal or comfortable. I didn't throw
>> a
>> big enough fit and the warranty eventually expired.
>>
>> The problem stayed and eventually got to the point of occasional full
>> fledged grinds when shifting into second. Before having a lift put in
>> the
>> Wrangler I wanted to be sure the transmission was going to be good for
>> the
>> next 50,000 miles or so, so I took it to a one man transmission shop that
>> was recommended by a long time general automotive mechanic I have known
>> for
>> years.
>>
>> He couldn't find anything really wrong with the transmission except a
>> little
>> abrasion on the shaft - and he replaced the shaft. He thought the dealer
>> had been using the wrong fluid and initially the transmission shifted
>> better
>> with the fluid he used. However, after only about 1,000 miles, the
>> shifting
>> problem (not the all out grind) is back.
>>
>> Unfortunately, while it was shifting better, I had a lot of work done on
>> the
>> Jeep. Now I have a 4 inch lift, new tires, new differentials, and new
>> drive
>> shaft, but the transmission is annoying as hell. I can shift REAL slow,
>> or
>> double clutch when going up to 2nd, but that's not a cure, there is still
>> something not meshing like it should.
>>
>> So, finally, any suggestions? I've even starting thinking of a new
>> transmission, but the wife is going to kill me if it comes to that.
>>
>> Masnor@***.net

 

That transmission calls for a specific fluid, Pennzoil Syncromesh Manual
Transmission Fluid. It does not use standard gear oil.

"Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:Lzimh.8268$2U4.826@newsfe16.lga...
> Thanks for the response.
>
> It's not been submerged, not before or after any of the rebuilds.
>
> I'm going to try different fluids and maybe some additives before looking
> for a used replacement. But I may drop by some of the junk yards and see
> what they are selling for.
>
> Masnor
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45981656.7462D9D0@sympatico.ca...
>>I would figure any more spent on that tranny would be just throwing good
>> money after bad. It is toast in my mind. Bad cast maybe.
>>
>> I would be looking around at the wreckers for one.
>>
>> Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last 1000
>> miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
>> submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Masnor wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a 2000 Wrangler with a 4 liter and manual five speed. I'm the
>>> second
>>> owner and the first owner was a nurse that used the jeep as a highway
>>> commuter car. The jeep has not been wrecked, rolled, or ever stuck.
>>>
>>> Over a year ago the reverse lockout pin was found (broken) while
>>> changing
>>> the transmission fluid. I took it to the dealer under warranty and they
>>> rebuilt the transmission. However, as soon as I picked up the Jeep
>>> there
>>> was a shift problem. That's when upshifting into 2ndfelt like a tooth or
>>> two
>>> was grinding past. It would shift and stay in 2nd gear, but it was like
>>> the
>>> clutch was only partially depressed while upshifting - like a lazy
>>> upshift
>>> micro-grind. Shifting up to 3rd had a similar feel, but was less
>>> noticeable. Downshifting was as it should be. No grind, but smooth
>>> shifting.
>>>
>>> So, I took it back of course. They tried a number of things, including
>>> rebuilding the transmission, clutch, throwout bearing, etc. Nothing
>>> helped.
>>> And after five overnight trips to the dealer (30 miles away) they told
>>> me
>>> there was nothing they could do. When they test drove it, it was like
>>> they
>>> were driving the Pope-mobile and they would always take about three
>>> seconds
>>> to shift from one gear to the next - and with that time lag, the problem
>>> is
>>> less noticeable - but I could still hear it from the passenger seat.
>>> However, that kind of shift is not normal or comfortable. I didn't
>>> throw a
>>> big enough fit and the warranty eventually expired.
>>>
>>> The problem stayed and eventually got to the point of occasional full
>>> fledged grinds when shifting into second. Before having a lift put in
>>> the
>>> Wrangler I wanted to be sure the transmission was going to be good for
>>> the
>>> next 50,000 miles or so, so I took it to a one man transmission shop
>>> that
>>> was recommended by a long time general automotive mechanic I have known
>>> for
>>> years.
>>>
>>> He couldn't find anything really wrong with the transmission except a
>>> little
>>> abrasion on the shaft - and he replaced the shaft. He thought the
>>> dealer
>>> had been using the wrong fluid and initially the transmission shifted
>>> better
>>> with the fluid he used. However, after only about 1,000 miles, the
>>> shifting
>>> problem (not the all out grind) is back.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, while it was shifting better, I had a lot of work done on
>>> the
>>> Jeep. Now I have a 4 inch lift, new tires, new differentials, and new
>>> drive
>>> shaft, but the transmission is annoying as hell. I can shift REAL slow,
>>> or
>>> double clutch when going up to 2nd, but that's not a cure, there is
>>> still
>>> something not meshing like it should.
>>>
>>> So, finally, any suggestions? I've even starting thinking of a new
>>> transmission, but the wife is going to kill me if it comes to that.
>>>
>>> Masnor@***.net
>
>

 

That transmission calls for a specific fluid, Pennzoil Syncromesh Manual
Transmission Fluid. It does not use standard gear oil.

"Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:Lzimh.8268$2U4.826@newsfe16.lga...
> Thanks for the response.
>
> It's not been submerged, not before or after any of the rebuilds.
>
> I'm going to try different fluids and maybe some additives before looking
> for a used replacement. But I may drop by some of the junk yards and see
> what they are selling for.
>
> Masnor
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45981656.7462D9D0@sympatico.ca...
>>I would figure any more spent on that tranny would be just throwing good
>> money after bad. It is toast in my mind. Bad cast maybe.
>>
>> I would be looking around at the wreckers for one.
>>
>> Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last 1000
>> miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
>> submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Masnor wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a 2000 Wrangler with a 4 liter and manual five speed. I'm the
>>> second
>>> owner and the first owner was a nurse that used the jeep as a highway
>>> commuter car. The jeep has not been wrecked, rolled, or ever stuck.
>>>
>>> Over a year ago the reverse lockout pin was found (broken) while
>>> changing
>>> the transmission fluid. I took it to the dealer under warranty and they
>>> rebuilt the transmission. However, as soon as I picked up the Jeep
>>> there
>>> was a shift problem. That's when upshifting into 2ndfelt like a tooth or
>>> two
>>> was grinding past. It would shift and stay in 2nd gear, but it was like
>>> the
>>> clutch was only partially depressed while upshifting - like a lazy
>>> upshift
>>> micro-grind. Shifting up to 3rd had a similar feel, but was less
>>> noticeable. Downshifting was as it should be. No grind, but smooth
>>> shifting.
>>>
>>> So, I took it back of course. They tried a number of things, including
>>> rebuilding the transmission, clutch, throwout bearing, etc. Nothing
>>> helped.
>>> And after five overnight trips to the dealer (30 miles away) they told
>>> me
>>> there was nothing they could do. When they test drove it, it was like
>>> they
>>> were driving the Pope-mobile and they would always take about three
>>> seconds
>>> to shift from one gear to the next - and with that time lag, the problem
>>> is
>>> less noticeable - but I could still hear it from the passenger seat.
>>> However, that kind of shift is not normal or comfortable. I didn't
>>> throw a
>>> big enough fit and the warranty eventually expired.
>>>
>>> The problem stayed and eventually got to the point of occasional full
>>> fledged grinds when shifting into second. Before having a lift put in
>>> the
>>> Wrangler I wanted to be sure the transmission was going to be good for
>>> the
>>> next 50,000 miles or so, so I took it to a one man transmission shop
>>> that
>>> was recommended by a long time general automotive mechanic I have known
>>> for
>>> years.
>>>
>>> He couldn't find anything really wrong with the transmission except a
>>> little
>>> abrasion on the shaft - and he replaced the shaft. He thought the
>>> dealer
>>> had been using the wrong fluid and initially the transmission shifted
>>> better
>>> with the fluid he used. However, after only about 1,000 miles, the
>>> shifting
>>> problem (not the all out grind) is back.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, while it was shifting better, I had a lot of work done on
>>> the
>>> Jeep. Now I have a 4 inch lift, new tires, new differentials, and new
>>> drive
>>> shaft, but the transmission is annoying as hell. I can shift REAL slow,
>>> or
>>> double clutch when going up to 2nd, but that's not a cure, there is
>>> still
>>> something not meshing like it should.
>>>
>>> So, finally, any suggestions? I've even starting thinking of a new
>>> transmission, but the wife is going to kill me if it comes to that.
>>>
>>> Masnor@***.net
>
>

 

That transmission calls for a specific fluid, Pennzoil Syncromesh Manual
Transmission Fluid. It does not use standard gear oil.

"Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:Lzimh.8268$2U4.826@newsfe16.lga...
> Thanks for the response.
>
> It's not been submerged, not before or after any of the rebuilds.
>
> I'm going to try different fluids and maybe some additives before looking
> for a used replacement. But I may drop by some of the junk yards and see
> what they are selling for.
>
> Masnor
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45981656.7462D9D0@sympatico.ca...
>>I would figure any more spent on that tranny would be just throwing good
>> money after bad. It is toast in my mind. Bad cast maybe.
>>
>> I would be looking around at the wreckers for one.
>>
>> Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last 1000
>> miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
>> submerged. They then usually shift bad....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Masnor wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a 2000 Wrangler with a 4 liter and manual five speed. I'm the
>>> second
>>> owner and the first owner was a nurse that used the jeep as a highway
>>> commuter car. The jeep has not been wrecked, rolled, or ever stuck.
>>>
>>> Over a year ago the reverse lockout pin was found (broken) while
>>> changing
>>> the transmission fluid. I took it to the dealer under warranty and they
>>> rebuilt the transmission. However, as soon as I picked up the Jeep
>>> there
>>> was a shift problem. That's when upshifting into 2ndfelt like a tooth or
>>> two
>>> was grinding past. It would shift and stay in 2nd gear, but it was like
>>> the
>>> clutch was only partially depressed while upshifting - like a lazy
>>> upshift
>>> micro-grind. Shifting up to 3rd had a similar feel, but was less
>>> noticeable. Downshifting was as it should be. No grind, but smooth
>>> shifting.
>>>
>>> So, I took it back of course. They tried a number of things, including
>>> rebuilding the transmission, clutch, throwout bearing, etc. Nothing
>>> helped.
>>> And after five overnight trips to the dealer (30 miles away) they told
>>> me
>>> there was nothing they could do. When they test drove it, it was like
>>> they
>>> were driving the Pope-mobile and they would always take about three
>>> seconds
>>> to shift from one gear to the next - and with that time lag, the problem
>>> is
>>> less noticeable - but I could still hear it from the passenger seat.
>>> However, that kind of shift is not normal or comfortable. I didn't
>>> throw a
>>> big enough fit and the warranty eventually expired.
>>>
>>> The problem stayed and eventually got to the point of occasional full
>>> fledged grinds when shifting into second. Before having a lift put in
>>> the
>>> Wrangler I wanted to be sure the transmission was going to be good for
>>> the
>>> next 50,000 miles or so, so I took it to a one man transmission shop
>>> that
>>> was recommended by a long time general automotive mechanic I have known
>>> for
>>> years.
>>>
>>> He couldn't find anything really wrong with the transmission except a
>>> little
>>> abrasion on the shaft - and he replaced the shaft. He thought the
>>> dealer
>>> had been using the wrong fluid and initially the transmission shifted
>>> better
>>> with the fluid he used. However, after only about 1,000 miles, the
>>> shifting
>>> problem (not the all out grind) is back.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, while it was shifting better, I had a lot of work done on
>>> the
>>> Jeep. Now I have a 4 inch lift, new tires, new differentials, and new
>>> drive
>>> shaft, but the transmission is annoying as hell. I can shift REAL slow,
>>> or
>>> double clutch when going up to 2nd, but that's not a cure, there is
>>> still
>>> something not meshing like it should.
>>>
>>> So, finally, any suggestions? I've even starting thinking of a new
>>> transmission, but the wife is going to kill me if it comes to that.
>>>
>>> Masnor@***.net
>
>

 

What, the new Jeeps can't go under 'any' water now???

I was under the definite impression that all Jeep diffs and t-cases have
high water vents.

They only wanted to change a lot of transmissions by leaving it off
those....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Carl wrote:
>
> Kate,
>
> Not sure about the rubicon, but most of the diffs have the same problem.
> Just do like mike said, get some trans cooler hose, pull off the cap, slip
> the hose on and route it into the engine compartment.
>
> I like to cap mine with a small breather to keep mud and water out, but if
> one's not availible or it fell out, a knot works just as well.
>
> Carl
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
> news:QnZlh.15619$641.7137@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> > Thank you Mike,
> > I'll add that to my "Smart Things to do" list
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:45984894.63945699@sympatico.ca...
> >> Yes. I pulled the button vent out of mine and put a piece of steel gas
> >> line in for a hose nipple. It pressed in but I JB welded it anyway. I
> >> them added a piece of transmission cooler line and ran that up by the
> >> battery and hooked it in an upside down U or cane handle shape.
> >>
> >> There were write-ups for various tranny models, not sure about the new
> >> one.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >> Kate wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can something be modified to prevent this mike?
> >>>
> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> >>> >
> >>> > Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last
> >>> > 1000
> >>> > miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
> >>> > submerged. They then usually shift bad....
> >
> >

 

What, the new Jeeps can't go under 'any' water now???

I was under the definite impression that all Jeep diffs and t-cases have
high water vents.

They only wanted to change a lot of transmissions by leaving it off
those....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Carl wrote:
>
> Kate,
>
> Not sure about the rubicon, but most of the diffs have the same problem.
> Just do like mike said, get some trans cooler hose, pull off the cap, slip
> the hose on and route it into the engine compartment.
>
> I like to cap mine with a small breather to keep mud and water out, but if
> one's not availible or it fell out, a knot works just as well.
>
> Carl
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
> news:QnZlh.15619$641.7137@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> > Thank you Mike,
> > I'll add that to my "Smart Things to do" list
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:45984894.63945699@sympatico.ca...
> >> Yes. I pulled the button vent out of mine and put a piece of steel gas
> >> line in for a hose nipple. It pressed in but I JB welded it anyway. I
> >> them added a piece of transmission cooler line and ran that up by the
> >> battery and hooked it in an upside down U or cane handle shape.
> >>
> >> There were write-ups for various tranny models, not sure about the new
> >> one.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>
> >> Kate wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can something be modified to prevent this mike?
> >>>
> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> >>> >
> >>> > Unless you have had your Jeep out to play in the water in the last
> >>> > 1000
> >>> > miles? The tranny doesn't have a high water vent and they fill up if
> >>> > submerged. They then usually shift bad....
> >
> >