Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:

> I actually 'have' the 'real stuff' holding it on now. Got it on one
> trip from an old farmer/mechanic to help hold my muffler up once.
>
> The last use this one piece of bailing wire had was to hold a duck on a
> spit for a slow 7 hour fire roast a couple weeks back when my wife and I
> were out camping. Versatile stuff eh. ;-)

Yep. That and duct tape

(set the coffe down)

http://www.octanecreative.com/ductta...hop/page2.html

--
DougW

 

Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:

> I actually 'have' the 'real stuff' holding it on now. Got it on one
> trip from an old farmer/mechanic to help hold my muffler up once.
>
> The last use this one piece of bailing wire had was to hold a duck on a
> spit for a slow 7 hour fire roast a couple weeks back when my wife and I
> were out camping. Versatile stuff eh. ;-)

Yep. That and duct tape

(set the coffe down)

http://www.octanecreative.com/ductta...hop/page2.html

--
DougW

 

Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:

> I actually 'have' the 'real stuff' holding it on now. Got it on one
> trip from an old farmer/mechanic to help hold my muffler up once.
>
> The last use this one piece of bailing wire had was to hold a duck on a
> spit for a slow 7 hour fire roast a couple weeks back when my wife and I
> were out camping. Versatile stuff eh. ;-)

Yep. That and duct tape

(set the coffe down)

http://www.octanecreative.com/ductta...hop/page2.html

--
DougW

 

Real Jeeps use open channel frames like the eighteen wheelers, that
never catch water and rust out:
http://www.----------.com/realJeepFrame.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> So here I am driving down the main drag in Toronto and hear/feel a
> strange thump then scraping. Crap I think, there goes the muffler or
> tailpipe or something. Not loud, hmmm... I pull over and walk back
> looking at the guy behind me laughing and there is my frame crossmember
> and stainless bumperette loops laying on the ground..... There was a
> left over piece if string I used to tie something once holding it on.
>
> Ouch!
>
> I knew it was getting ratty when my gas tank skid plate fell off a while
> back but was hoping to get the winter out of it.
>
> My kid just came in laughing and asked what was holding the back springs
> on. I can't figure that out either, they are sorta just hanging there
> on a cob web of rust....
>
> I have the gas tank hung off the body as it is via a couple big eye
> hooks through the floor and cargo straps.
>
> Oh well, I guess it is time to get some square tubing and cover the
> frame tails and anchor the spring shackles and a new C channel
> crossmember to them. Then to get a gas tank skid plate.
>
> Anyone know if a YJ 20 gallon skid plate will fit a cj 20 gallon tank?
>
> Meanwhile some bailing wire keeps it 'looking' like it belongs
> there.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Real Jeeps use open channel frames like the eighteen wheelers, that
never catch water and rust out:
http://www.----------.com/realJeepFrame.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> So here I am driving down the main drag in Toronto and hear/feel a
> strange thump then scraping. Crap I think, there goes the muffler or
> tailpipe or something. Not loud, hmmm... I pull over and walk back
> looking at the guy behind me laughing and there is my frame crossmember
> and stainless bumperette loops laying on the ground..... There was a
> left over piece if string I used to tie something once holding it on.
>
> Ouch!
>
> I knew it was getting ratty when my gas tank skid plate fell off a while
> back but was hoping to get the winter out of it.
>
> My kid just came in laughing and asked what was holding the back springs
> on. I can't figure that out either, they are sorta just hanging there
> on a cob web of rust....
>
> I have the gas tank hung off the body as it is via a couple big eye
> hooks through the floor and cargo straps.
>
> Oh well, I guess it is time to get some square tubing and cover the
> frame tails and anchor the spring shackles and a new C channel
> crossmember to them. Then to get a gas tank skid plate.
>
> Anyone know if a YJ 20 gallon skid plate will fit a cj 20 gallon tank?
>
> Meanwhile some bailing wire keeps it 'looking' like it belongs
> there.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Real Jeeps use open channel frames like the eighteen wheelers, that
never catch water and rust out:
http://www.----------.com/realJeepFrame.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> So here I am driving down the main drag in Toronto and hear/feel a
> strange thump then scraping. Crap I think, there goes the muffler or
> tailpipe or something. Not loud, hmmm... I pull over and walk back
> looking at the guy behind me laughing and there is my frame crossmember
> and stainless bumperette loops laying on the ground..... There was a
> left over piece if string I used to tie something once holding it on.
>
> Ouch!
>
> I knew it was getting ratty when my gas tank skid plate fell off a while
> back but was hoping to get the winter out of it.
>
> My kid just came in laughing and asked what was holding the back springs
> on. I can't figure that out either, they are sorta just hanging there
> on a cob web of rust....
>
> I have the gas tank hung off the body as it is via a couple big eye
> hooks through the floor and cargo straps.
>
> Oh well, I guess it is time to get some square tubing and cover the
> frame tails and anchor the spring shackles and a new C channel
> crossmember to them. Then to get a gas tank skid plate.
>
> Anyone know if a YJ 20 gallon skid plate will fit a cj 20 gallon tank?
>
> Meanwhile some bailing wire keeps it 'looking' like it belongs
> there.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Mud and dirt is the big issue I think Bill.

When I tore down the Jeep for the 'glass body job, it took 2 days to
hose all the mud out of the frame. That stuff holds water and worse
salty water in the winter.

I wonder if I should replace the frame tail pieces with C channel
instead of the square tubing I was thinking of? Thinking about it, naw,
there isn't enough left to do a decent C channel job I don't think.

Is that frame all C channel with big assed rivets in the corners? If so
can it twist up like mine without tearing off cross members? My front
one broke too, that big wide one. All that is holding the front rails
is the warn winch mount.

Man do I ever need a new frame..... :-(

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Real Jeeps use open channel frames like the eighteen wheelers, that
> never catch water and rust out:
> http://www.----------.com/realJeepFrame.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > So here I am driving down the main drag in Toronto and hear/feel a
> > strange thump then scraping. Crap I think, there goes the muffler or
> > tailpipe or something. Not loud, hmmm... I pull over and walk back
> > looking at the guy behind me laughing and there is my frame crossmember
> > and stainless bumperette loops laying on the ground..... There was a
> > left over piece if string I used to tie something once holding it on.
> >
> > Ouch!
> >
> > I knew it was getting ratty when my gas tank skid plate fell off a while
> > back but was hoping to get the winter out of it.
> >
> > My kid just came in laughing and asked what was holding the back springs
> > on. I can't figure that out either, they are sorta just hanging there
> > on a cob web of rust....
> >
> > I have the gas tank hung off the body as it is via a couple big eye
> > hooks through the floor and cargo straps.
> >
> > Oh well, I guess it is time to get some square tubing and cover the
> > frame tails and anchor the spring shackles and a new C channel
> > crossmember to them. Then to get a gas tank skid plate.
> >
> > Anyone know if a YJ 20 gallon skid plate will fit a cj 20 gallon tank?
> >
> > Meanwhile some bailing wire keeps it 'looking' like it belongs
> > there.....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Mud and dirt is the big issue I think Bill.

When I tore down the Jeep for the 'glass body job, it took 2 days to
hose all the mud out of the frame. That stuff holds water and worse
salty water in the winter.

I wonder if I should replace the frame tail pieces with C channel
instead of the square tubing I was thinking of? Thinking about it, naw,
there isn't enough left to do a decent C channel job I don't think.

Is that frame all C channel with big assed rivets in the corners? If so
can it twist up like mine without tearing off cross members? My front
one broke too, that big wide one. All that is holding the front rails
is the warn winch mount.

Man do I ever need a new frame..... :-(

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Real Jeeps use open channel frames like the eighteen wheelers, that
> never catch water and rust out:
> http://www.----------.com/realJeepFrame.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > So here I am driving down the main drag in Toronto and hear/feel a
> > strange thump then scraping. Crap I think, there goes the muffler or
> > tailpipe or something. Not loud, hmmm... I pull over and walk back
> > looking at the guy behind me laughing and there is my frame crossmember
> > and stainless bumperette loops laying on the ground..... There was a
> > left over piece if string I used to tie something once holding it on.
> >
> > Ouch!
> >
> > I knew it was getting ratty when my gas tank skid plate fell off a while
> > back but was hoping to get the winter out of it.
> >
> > My kid just came in laughing and asked what was holding the back springs
> > on. I can't figure that out either, they are sorta just hanging there
> > on a cob web of rust....
> >
> > I have the gas tank hung off the body as it is via a couple big eye
> > hooks through the floor and cargo straps.
> >
> > Oh well, I guess it is time to get some square tubing and cover the
> > frame tails and anchor the spring shackles and a new C channel
> > crossmember to them. Then to get a gas tank skid plate.
> >
> > Anyone know if a YJ 20 gallon skid plate will fit a cj 20 gallon tank?
> >
> > Meanwhile some bailing wire keeps it 'looking' like it belongs
> > there.....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Mud and dirt is the big issue I think Bill.

When I tore down the Jeep for the 'glass body job, it took 2 days to
hose all the mud out of the frame. That stuff holds water and worse
salty water in the winter.

I wonder if I should replace the frame tail pieces with C channel
instead of the square tubing I was thinking of? Thinking about it, naw,
there isn't enough left to do a decent C channel job I don't think.

Is that frame all C channel with big assed rivets in the corners? If so
can it twist up like mine without tearing off cross members? My front
one broke too, that big wide one. All that is holding the front rails
is the warn winch mount.

Man do I ever need a new frame..... :-(

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Real Jeeps use open channel frames like the eighteen wheelers, that
> never catch water and rust out:
> http://www.----------.com/realJeepFrame.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > So here I am driving down the main drag in Toronto and hear/feel a
> > strange thump then scraping. Crap I think, there goes the muffler or
> > tailpipe or something. Not loud, hmmm... I pull over and walk back
> > looking at the guy behind me laughing and there is my frame crossmember
> > and stainless bumperette loops laying on the ground..... There was a
> > left over piece if string I used to tie something once holding it on.
> >
> > Ouch!
> >
> > I knew it was getting ratty when my gas tank skid plate fell off a while
> > back but was hoping to get the winter out of it.
> >
> > My kid just came in laughing and asked what was holding the back springs
> > on. I can't figure that out either, they are sorta just hanging there
> > on a cob web of rust....
> >
> > I have the gas tank hung off the body as it is via a couple big eye
> > hooks through the floor and cargo straps.
> >
> > Oh well, I guess it is time to get some square tubing and cover the
> > frame tails and anchor the spring shackles and a new C channel
> > crossmember to them. Then to get a gas tank skid plate.
> >
> > Anyone know if a YJ 20 gallon skid plate will fit a cj 20 gallon tank?
> >
> > Meanwhile some bailing wire keeps it 'looking' like it belongs
> > there.....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Ouch!

Mike

Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41A7A19A.FDC2130A@sympatico.ca...
> : So here I am driving down the main drag in Toronto and hear/feel a
> : strange thump then scraping. Crap I think, there goes the muffler or
> : tailpipe or something. Not loud, hmmm... I pull over and walk back
> : looking at the guy behind me laughing and there is my frame crossmember
> : and stainless bumperette loops laying on the ground..... There was a
> : left over piece if string I used to tie something once holding it on.
> :
>
> And I thought I had a bad day...
> Wed. morning driving home from work at 4 AM I feel my l/f brake grinding on
> my van... it had been squealing for a week so I had the forethought to buy
> the parts (thanks Napa for the 40% off 'dealer discount'). So I get home and
> it's pretty mild 6*C (42F) and I figure I'll get it done before I go to bed.
> Jump out of the van and I hear hissing, my r/r tire is going down.
>
> I go to move my XJ so I can pull the van up to the garage, dead battery.
> Throw the charger on the XJ and drag the floor jack to the end of the
> driveway to the van.
>
> I get to the point of no return in the brake job, calliper off, brake line
> off, rotor off and I feel a very cold rain drop on the back of my neck.
> ^#$%$!!!!
>
> The temp. dropped quick! I re-packed the bearings in slow motion waiting for
> the rain to let up... no such luck. By 5:30 AM, my wife was standing over me
> with an umbrella while I reassembled the brakes. Bled them and went to
> bed... maybe it will stop raining by the time I get up to change the tire...
> nope. Waited until the last possible moment before work to change it.....
> lower the spare down from underneath the van and the hanger is rusted to the
> friggin' rim. &%$%$%$!!!!
>
> Went into work soaked... by the time I dried off, I had to get out of the
> truck again to get soaked... this happed four more times (rinse and
> repeat?). Get back to the yard only to find I left the interior lights on in
> the van. It won't start. Waited for the day shift to come in to get a
> boost... in the rain.
>
> -Brian