Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
If I can put in my two cents worth, the problem may be related to the
fuel. Ethanol is mandated now, generally 10%, and alcohol will tear up the rubber in older fuel systems. Some older mechanical fuel pumps use rubber bellows and valves and they will deteriorate, as will the rubber bellows in the older accelerator pumps. Connect a fuel pressure gauge in the line at the carb, should be at least 6PSI. If it is, then change the filter in the carb, if there is one. Alcohol in the fuel can knock a lot of crud loose and plug it. I had exactly the same problem in my '61 CJ5 with an Olds V6. The filter in the carb plugged up and stopped me dead. I rebuilt the carb with alcohol-tolerant parts. I replaced the stock fuel pump with a Carter and added a Facet electric pump near the fuel tank. No problems since. -- Bill Lahr mr.bill@pcmagic.net Jamie Mello wrote: > Yea let us know how it goes.And like mike said I hope it is something > cheap and easy. > > > > 99 wrangler TJ 2.5 lift 31 inch Good year MTR tires and a ton of > lights > Warn M8000 winch and more toys to come. > > > > Some people have an addiction to drink... > Some people have an addiction to drugs.... > I just have an addiction to Jeeps and their accessories.... > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
If I can put in my two cents worth, the problem may be related to the
fuel. Ethanol is mandated now, generally 10%, and alcohol will tear up the rubber in older fuel systems. Some older mechanical fuel pumps use rubber bellows and valves and they will deteriorate, as will the rubber bellows in the older accelerator pumps. Connect a fuel pressure gauge in the line at the carb, should be at least 6PSI. If it is, then change the filter in the carb, if there is one. Alcohol in the fuel can knock a lot of crud loose and plug it. I had exactly the same problem in my '61 CJ5 with an Olds V6. The filter in the carb plugged up and stopped me dead. I rebuilt the carb with alcohol-tolerant parts. I replaced the stock fuel pump with a Carter and added a Facet electric pump near the fuel tank. No problems since. -- Bill Lahr mr.bill@pcmagic.net Jamie Mello wrote: > Yea let us know how it goes.And like mike said I hope it is something > cheap and easy. > > > > 99 wrangler TJ 2.5 lift 31 inch Good year MTR tires and a ton of > lights > Warn M8000 winch and more toys to come. > > > > Some people have an addiction to drink... > Some people have an addiction to drugs.... > I just have an addiction to Jeeps and their accessories.... > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
If I can put in my two cents worth, the problem may be related to the
fuel. Ethanol is mandated now, generally 10%, and alcohol will tear up the rubber in older fuel systems. Some older mechanical fuel pumps use rubber bellows and valves and they will deteriorate, as will the rubber bellows in the older accelerator pumps. Connect a fuel pressure gauge in the line at the carb, should be at least 6PSI. If it is, then change the filter in the carb, if there is one. Alcohol in the fuel can knock a lot of crud loose and plug it. I had exactly the same problem in my '61 CJ5 with an Olds V6. The filter in the carb plugged up and stopped me dead. I rebuilt the carb with alcohol-tolerant parts. I replaced the stock fuel pump with a Carter and added a Facet electric pump near the fuel tank. No problems since. -- Bill Lahr mr.bill@pcmagic.net Jamie Mello wrote: > Yea let us know how it goes.And like mike said I hope it is something > cheap and easy. > > > > 99 wrangler TJ 2.5 lift 31 inch Good year MTR tires and a ton of > lights > Warn M8000 winch and more toys to come. > > > > Some people have an addiction to drink... > Some people have an addiction to drugs.... > I just have an addiction to Jeeps and their accessories.... > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
As an update (disclosure: I am extremely new to auto mechanics):
Removing the air filter did not fix the problem unfortunately, so now I'm checking if it's the fuel filter. I removed the fuel pickup plate from the gas tank (had to remove the driver seat) so that I could check the fuel filter element. It was pretty dirty, not terrible though. I have ordered the correct replacement and am waiting for it to show up. While I had the pickup plate removed, I though I'd check out the tank condition with a flashlight... It was gross in there. The gasket that seals the pickup to the tank had essentially disintegrated and pieces of it were floating in the gas along with other junk. I removed and cleaned the tank and will replace the gasket and filter when they arrive (soon). I'll also be sure to add some Stabil when I fill it up again. I'll update again once the filter is replaced. Here's a picture of the of what an M38A1 pickup plate with filter attached looks like: http://www.midwestmil.com/fuelpickupplate.jpg -Steve |
Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
As an update (disclosure: I am extremely new to auto mechanics):
Removing the air filter did not fix the problem unfortunately, so now I'm checking if it's the fuel filter. I removed the fuel pickup plate from the gas tank (had to remove the driver seat) so that I could check the fuel filter element. It was pretty dirty, not terrible though. I have ordered the correct replacement and am waiting for it to show up. While I had the pickup plate removed, I though I'd check out the tank condition with a flashlight... It was gross in there. The gasket that seals the pickup to the tank had essentially disintegrated and pieces of it were floating in the gas along with other junk. I removed and cleaned the tank and will replace the gasket and filter when they arrive (soon). I'll also be sure to add some Stabil when I fill it up again. I'll update again once the filter is replaced. Here's a picture of the of what an M38A1 pickup plate with filter attached looks like: http://www.midwestmil.com/fuelpickupplate.jpg -Steve |
Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
As an update (disclosure: I am extremely new to auto mechanics):
Removing the air filter did not fix the problem unfortunately, so now I'm checking if it's the fuel filter. I removed the fuel pickup plate from the gas tank (had to remove the driver seat) so that I could check the fuel filter element. It was pretty dirty, not terrible though. I have ordered the correct replacement and am waiting for it to show up. While I had the pickup plate removed, I though I'd check out the tank condition with a flashlight... It was gross in there. The gasket that seals the pickup to the tank had essentially disintegrated and pieces of it were floating in the gas along with other junk. I removed and cleaned the tank and will replace the gasket and filter when they arrive (soon). I'll also be sure to add some Stabil when I fill it up again. I'll update again once the filter is replaced. Here's a picture of the of what an M38A1 pickup plate with filter attached looks like: http://www.midwestmil.com/fuelpickupplate.jpg -Steve |
Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
As an update (disclosure: I am extremely new to auto mechanics):
Removing the air filter did not fix the problem unfortunately, so now I'm checking if it's the fuel filter. I removed the fuel pickup plate from the gas tank (had to remove the driver seat) so that I could check the fuel filter element. It was pretty dirty, not terrible though. I have ordered the correct replacement and am waiting for it to show up. While I had the pickup plate removed, I though I'd check out the tank condition with a flashlight... It was gross in there. The gasket that seals the pickup to the tank had essentially disintegrated and pieces of it were floating in the gas along with other junk. I removed and cleaned the tank and will replace the gasket and filter when they arrive (soon). I'll also be sure to add some Stabil when I fill it up again. I'll update again once the filter is replaced. Here's a picture of the of what an M38A1 pickup plate with filter attached looks like: http://www.midwestmil.com/fuelpickupplate.jpg -Steve |
Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
steve.newhouse wrote:
> As an update (disclosure: I am extremely new to auto mechanics): > Removing the air filter did not fix the problem unfortunately, so now > I'm checking if it's the fuel filter. > > I removed the fuel pickup plate from the gas tank (had to remove the > driver seat) so that I could check the fuel filter element. It was > pretty dirty, not terrible though. I have ordered the correct > replacement and am waiting for it to show up. > > While I had the pickup plate removed, I though I'd check out the tank > condition with a flashlight... It was gross in there. The gasket that > seals the pickup to the tank had essentially disintegrated and pieces > of it were floating in the gas along with other junk. I removed and > cleaned the tank and will replace the gasket and filter when they > arrive (soon). I'll also be sure to add some Stabil when I fill it up > again. I'll update again once the filter is replaced. > > Here's a picture of the of what an M38A1 pickup plate with filter > attached looks like: > > http://www.midwestmil.com/fuelpickupplate.jpg > > -Steve > How did you clean that tank? It will probably need more than just a rinse. Instead of Stabil, you might run a bit of Seafoam in there to clean up any varnish in the lines, etc. tw |
Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
steve.newhouse wrote:
> As an update (disclosure: I am extremely new to auto mechanics): > Removing the air filter did not fix the problem unfortunately, so now > I'm checking if it's the fuel filter. > > I removed the fuel pickup plate from the gas tank (had to remove the > driver seat) so that I could check the fuel filter element. It was > pretty dirty, not terrible though. I have ordered the correct > replacement and am waiting for it to show up. > > While I had the pickup plate removed, I though I'd check out the tank > condition with a flashlight... It was gross in there. The gasket that > seals the pickup to the tank had essentially disintegrated and pieces > of it were floating in the gas along with other junk. I removed and > cleaned the tank and will replace the gasket and filter when they > arrive (soon). I'll also be sure to add some Stabil when I fill it up > again. I'll update again once the filter is replaced. > > Here's a picture of the of what an M38A1 pickup plate with filter > attached looks like: > > http://www.midwestmil.com/fuelpickupplate.jpg > > -Steve > How did you clean that tank? It will probably need more than just a rinse. Instead of Stabil, you might run a bit of Seafoam in there to clean up any varnish in the lines, etc. tw |
Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
steve.newhouse wrote:
> As an update (disclosure: I am extremely new to auto mechanics): > Removing the air filter did not fix the problem unfortunately, so now > I'm checking if it's the fuel filter. > > I removed the fuel pickup plate from the gas tank (had to remove the > driver seat) so that I could check the fuel filter element. It was > pretty dirty, not terrible though. I have ordered the correct > replacement and am waiting for it to show up. > > While I had the pickup plate removed, I though I'd check out the tank > condition with a flashlight... It was gross in there. The gasket that > seals the pickup to the tank had essentially disintegrated and pieces > of it were floating in the gas along with other junk. I removed and > cleaned the tank and will replace the gasket and filter when they > arrive (soon). I'll also be sure to add some Stabil when I fill it up > again. I'll update again once the filter is replaced. > > Here's a picture of the of what an M38A1 pickup plate with filter > attached looks like: > > http://www.midwestmil.com/fuelpickupplate.jpg > > -Steve > How did you clean that tank? It will probably need more than just a rinse. Instead of Stabil, you might run a bit of Seafoam in there to clean up any varnish in the lines, etc. tw |
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