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d 08-14-2007 12:31 AM

Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
 
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:32:46 -0000, "steve.newhouse"
<steve.newhouse@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have a '53 M38A1 with what seems like a very "diagnosable" issue.
>The engine was rebuilt about 3 years ago and has a the correct carb.
>I leave it in MA during the winter, so it sits for about 8 months at a
>time before being driven again during the summer.
>
>On to the symptoms:
>
>The car was running fine until about two weeks ago when it began to
>stall out when you step on the gas. It starts and idles well, but as
>soon as I step on the gas, it revs a little bit then dies until I let
>up on the gas again.
>
>I'm not sure if the engine is flooding or starving (is there an easy
>way to tell)? Any idea what would cause this?
>
>-Steve


I agree with Chris & Muddog that it sounds like an accelerator pump
problem. Sitting that long without running could cause the rubber
seals to dry up. Changing the fuel filter would also be a wise idea
because old gasoline will develope into a "laquer". If you let it sit
very long, I would reccomend using "Stabil" (gas stabilizer) to help
prevent tha laquer build up

Good luck,
Darrell

Mike Romain 08-14-2007 10:09 AM

Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
 
d wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:32:46 -0000, "steve.newhouse"
> <steve.newhouse@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a '53 M38A1 with what seems like a very "diagnosable" issue.
>> The engine was rebuilt about 3 years ago and has a the correct carb.
>> I leave it in MA during the winter, so it sits for about 8 months at a
>> time before being driven again during the summer.
>>
>> On to the symptoms:
>>
>> The car was running fine until about two weeks ago when it began to
>> stall out when you step on the gas. It starts and idles well, but as
>> soon as I step on the gas, it revs a little bit then dies until I let
>> up on the gas again.
>>
>> I'm not sure if the engine is flooding or starving (is there an easy
>> way to tell)? Any idea what would cause this?
>>
>> -Steve

>
> I agree with Chris & Muddog that it sounds like an accelerator pump
> problem. Sitting that long without running could cause the rubber
> seals to dry up. Changing the fuel filter would also be a wise idea
> because old gasoline will develope into a "laquer". If you let it sit
> very long, I would reccomend using "Stabil" (gas stabilizer) to help
> prevent tha laquer build up
>
> Good luck,
> Darrell



Well, I always figured the 'accelerator' pump was so named because it
gives an 'extra' shot of gas for 'acceleration'....

It isn't needed for running.....

If it is bad, the engine will stumble or bog on 'acceleration', it won't
up and die until you let off the gas....

Just on the ones 'I' have seen anyway....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 08-14-2007 10:09 AM

Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
 
d wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:32:46 -0000, "steve.newhouse"
> <steve.newhouse@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a '53 M38A1 with what seems like a very "diagnosable" issue.
>> The engine was rebuilt about 3 years ago and has a the correct carb.
>> I leave it in MA during the winter, so it sits for about 8 months at a
>> time before being driven again during the summer.
>>
>> On to the symptoms:
>>
>> The car was running fine until about two weeks ago when it began to
>> stall out when you step on the gas. It starts and idles well, but as
>> soon as I step on the gas, it revs a little bit then dies until I let
>> up on the gas again.
>>
>> I'm not sure if the engine is flooding or starving (is there an easy
>> way to tell)? Any idea what would cause this?
>>
>> -Steve

>
> I agree with Chris & Muddog that it sounds like an accelerator pump
> problem. Sitting that long without running could cause the rubber
> seals to dry up. Changing the fuel filter would also be a wise idea
> because old gasoline will develope into a "laquer". If you let it sit
> very long, I would reccomend using "Stabil" (gas stabilizer) to help
> prevent tha laquer build up
>
> Good luck,
> Darrell



Well, I always figured the 'accelerator' pump was so named because it
gives an 'extra' shot of gas for 'acceleration'....

It isn't needed for running.....

If it is bad, the engine will stumble or bog on 'acceleration', it won't
up and die until you let off the gas....

Just on the ones 'I' have seen anyway....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 08-14-2007 10:09 AM

Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
 
d wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:32:46 -0000, "steve.newhouse"
> <steve.newhouse@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a '53 M38A1 with what seems like a very "diagnosable" issue.
>> The engine was rebuilt about 3 years ago and has a the correct carb.
>> I leave it in MA during the winter, so it sits for about 8 months at a
>> time before being driven again during the summer.
>>
>> On to the symptoms:
>>
>> The car was running fine until about two weeks ago when it began to
>> stall out when you step on the gas. It starts and idles well, but as
>> soon as I step on the gas, it revs a little bit then dies until I let
>> up on the gas again.
>>
>> I'm not sure if the engine is flooding or starving (is there an easy
>> way to tell)? Any idea what would cause this?
>>
>> -Steve

>
> I agree with Chris & Muddog that it sounds like an accelerator pump
> problem. Sitting that long without running could cause the rubber
> seals to dry up. Changing the fuel filter would also be a wise idea
> because old gasoline will develope into a "laquer". If you let it sit
> very long, I would reccomend using "Stabil" (gas stabilizer) to help
> prevent tha laquer build up
>
> Good luck,
> Darrell



Well, I always figured the 'accelerator' pump was so named because it
gives an 'extra' shot of gas for 'acceleration'....

It isn't needed for running.....

If it is bad, the engine will stumble or bog on 'acceleration', it won't
up and die until you let off the gas....

Just on the ones 'I' have seen anyway....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 08-14-2007 10:09 AM

Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
 
d wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:32:46 -0000, "steve.newhouse"
> <steve.newhouse@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a '53 M38A1 with what seems like a very "diagnosable" issue.
>> The engine was rebuilt about 3 years ago and has a the correct carb.
>> I leave it in MA during the winter, so it sits for about 8 months at a
>> time before being driven again during the summer.
>>
>> On to the symptoms:
>>
>> The car was running fine until about two weeks ago when it began to
>> stall out when you step on the gas. It starts and idles well, but as
>> soon as I step on the gas, it revs a little bit then dies until I let
>> up on the gas again.
>>
>> I'm not sure if the engine is flooding or starving (is there an easy
>> way to tell)? Any idea what would cause this?
>>
>> -Steve

>
> I agree with Chris & Muddog that it sounds like an accelerator pump
> problem. Sitting that long without running could cause the rubber
> seals to dry up. Changing the fuel filter would also be a wise idea
> because old gasoline will develope into a "laquer". If you let it sit
> very long, I would reccomend using "Stabil" (gas stabilizer) to help
> prevent tha laquer build up
>
> Good luck,
> Darrell



Well, I always figured the 'accelerator' pump was so named because it
gives an 'extra' shot of gas for 'acceleration'....

It isn't needed for running.....

If it is bad, the engine will stumble or bog on 'acceleration', it won't
up and die until you let off the gas....

Just on the ones 'I' have seen anyway....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jamie Mello 08-15-2007 02:21 AM

Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
 
Hey your carb may also be clogged. You may want to spray some carb
cleaner in it. To see what happens. My brother has a 61 falcon and it
would do about the same thing as you are saying sprayed some carn
cleaner in it seem to run after ( now it has about 5 fuel leaks by the
engine and one on top of one of the HOT exhaust manifold so can not be
driven).



you all have fun off roading


Jamie Mello 08-15-2007 02:21 AM

Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
 
Hey your carb may also be clogged. You may want to spray some carb
cleaner in it. To see what happens. My brother has a 61 falcon and it
would do about the same thing as you are saying sprayed some carn
cleaner in it seem to run after ( now it has about 5 fuel leaks by the
engine and one on top of one of the HOT exhaust manifold so can not be
driven).



you all have fun off roading


Jamie Mello 08-15-2007 02:21 AM

Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
 
Hey your carb may also be clogged. You may want to spray some carb
cleaner in it. To see what happens. My brother has a 61 falcon and it
would do about the same thing as you are saying sprayed some carn
cleaner in it seem to run after ( now it has about 5 fuel leaks by the
engine and one on top of one of the HOT exhaust manifold so can not be
driven).



you all have fun off roading


Jamie Mello 08-15-2007 02:21 AM

Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
 
Hey your carb may also be clogged. You may want to spray some carb
cleaner in it. To see what happens. My brother has a 61 falcon and it
would do about the same thing as you are saying sprayed some carn
cleaner in it seem to run after ( now it has about 5 fuel leaks by the
engine and one on top of one of the HOT exhaust manifold so can not be
driven).



you all have fun off roading


Mike Romain 08-15-2007 10:39 AM

Re: M38A1 -- Idle's OK, Stalls on Acceleration
 
Even a plugged up air filter will kill top end.

Mike

Jamie Mello wrote:
> Hey your carb may also be clogged. You may want to spray some carb
> cleaner in it. To see what happens. My brother has a 61 falcon and it
> would do about the same thing as you are saying sprayed some carn
> cleaner in it seem to run after ( now it has about 5 fuel leaks by the
> engine and one on top of one of the HOT exhaust manifold so can not be
> driven).
>
>
>
> you all have fun off roading
>



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