Robert Bills

>So why do you want to have the same size wheels as on your Jeep? Does that
>mean if I'm running 33" tires on my CJ I'd also want the same on the
>trailer?

You want all the tires to be interchangable. 33's will fit an M416 with minor
suspension mods.

If the wheels and tires don't match the jeep you will need two different sized
spares. Mounting a spare on a small trailer can be a challenge. (i.e., its
just as easy to make all the wheels/tires match and carry one spare on your
jeep)

Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com

Robert Bills

>So why do you want to have the same size wheels as on your Jeep? Does that
>mean if I'm running 33" tires on my CJ I'd also want the same on the
>trailer?

You want all the tires to be interchangable. 33's will fit an M416 with minor
suspension mods.

If the wheels and tires don't match the jeep you will need two different sized
spares. Mounting a spare on a small trailer can be a challenge. (i.e., its
just as easy to make all the wheels/tires match and carry one spare on your
jeep)

Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com

Pete Elton

> The Vietnam era M-416 trailers are easier to find. They also have a wider
> track which more closely matches the track of the CJ-7. However, they need to
> be modified to accept the CJ 5 on 5 1/2 lug pattern so you can run the same
> wheels all around. (The M416 was designed to be towed by the old Mutt and
> Mighty Mite military vehicles, which have an entirely different wheel pattern
> than Jeeps.)

Not true. The M416 has a 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern.
The only time the bolt pattern becomes an issue is when
people (like me) want to tow one behind a TJ (5 on 4 1/2).
I towed it behind my Suburban too, so I simply modified the
trailer for an under-bed spare.

The trailer tows great behind a Jeep. Check out my
page below on the trailer I restored. I towed it from
Las Vegas, NV to Moab, UT at highway speeds with no trouble.

Pete

--

Pete Elton
2002 Solar Yellow TJ (Wrangler X)
1950 Orange CJ-3A
m416 trailer http://vegasauto.net/m416/

remove the '.jeep.' for the correct e-mail address.

Pete Elton

> The Vietnam era M-416 trailers are easier to find. They also have a wider
> track which more closely matches the track of the CJ-7. However, they need to
> be modified to accept the CJ 5 on 5 1/2 lug pattern so you can run the same
> wheels all around. (The M416 was designed to be towed by the old Mutt and
> Mighty Mite military vehicles, which have an entirely different wheel pattern
> than Jeeps.)

Not true. The M416 has a 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern.
The only time the bolt pattern becomes an issue is when
people (like me) want to tow one behind a TJ (5 on 4 1/2).
I towed it behind my Suburban too, so I simply modified the
trailer for an under-bed spare.

The trailer tows great behind a Jeep. Check out my
page below on the trailer I restored. I towed it from
Las Vegas, NV to Moab, UT at highway speeds with no trouble.

Pete

--

Pete Elton
2002 Solar Yellow TJ (Wrangler X)
1950 Orange CJ-3A
m416 trailer http://vegasauto.net/m416/

remove the '.jeep.' for the correct e-mail address.

Pete Elton

> The Vietnam era M-416 trailers are easier to find. They also have a wider
> track which more closely matches the track of the CJ-7. However, they need to
> be modified to accept the CJ 5 on 5 1/2 lug pattern so you can run the same
> wheels all around. (The M416 was designed to be towed by the old Mutt and
> Mighty Mite military vehicles, which have an entirely different wheel pattern
> than Jeeps.)

Not true. The M416 has a 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern.
The only time the bolt pattern becomes an issue is when
people (like me) want to tow one behind a TJ (5 on 4 1/2).
I towed it behind my Suburban too, so I simply modified the
trailer for an under-bed spare.

The trailer tows great behind a Jeep. Check out my
page below on the trailer I restored. I towed it from
Las Vegas, NV to Moab, UT at highway speeds with no trouble.

Pete

--

Pete Elton
2002 Solar Yellow TJ (Wrangler X)
1950 Orange CJ-3A
m416 trailer http://vegasauto.net/m416/

remove the '.jeep.' for the correct e-mail address.

CRWLR

I have the rounded fenders on the trailer that I have, and I truly love
pulling it. It follows me PERFECTLY. I drug it over the Rubicon behind my
CJ5, and I have pulled it through the Bad Lands out by the Salton Sea. It is
very cool because it almost never hits things that my Jeep avoids. Having
said that, I did manage to rip the tail lamps off of it, but that was more a
fucntion of the departure angle than dragging it past a tree. I went down
Heart Attack Hill out in Anza Borrego once while pulling my trailer. It was
Way Cool because I locked the trailer brake and the trailer then became an
anchor that held me steady on my course down the hill. The trailer actually
made the trip down easier than without the trailer!

I went to my local Ace Hardware and bought some high-quality bungee cords
and a 4x6 canvas tarp. I fill the trailer with a way-too-big tent and all of
the camping gear I can think of, and then fill a 60qt ice chest with beer
and ice, and hit the trails. I can even carry a 6ft folding banquet table to
set up at the campsite when we get there. I set the ice chest next to the
tailgate so I can get to its contents without having to completely undo the
bungees - all I need to do is unhook one cord and fold the flap over and the
ice chest is ready to despense its contents.
I installed the Mopar MPFI, the same one that you just installed, and a
Borla Header, and I don't even know the trailer is following me when I am on
the highway.






"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:btg6mt$6gqjm$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Just found out the freakin guy sold it out from under me. :-(
>
> I like the body style of the M416 better anyway (angled fenders over
rounded
> ones) so I'll keep looking.
>
> Anyway, What's the consensus regarding pulling a trailer behind a jeep. I
> have the image in my mind and thinking of using it for pulling camping
gear
> and supplies. Do CJ7s (I6, 258) pull trailers such as the M100 or M416
> well?
>
> thanks,
>
> bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FFB9B2A.2E418320@***.net...
> > If that's what turn you on:
> > http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Hubb...s/Bantam5.html
> > The bearing will have to be repacked before it goes anywhere other
> > than on another trailer, the rims should be the same size as your
> > Civilian Jeep.
> > Many times these things can be a nightmare trying to get a clear
> > tittle, like he may not even want to give you a bill of sale.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm going to look at a M100 to pull behind my CJ7. The guys says the
> tires
> > > and shocks will need to be replaced. Other than that it's in ok
shape.
> No
> > > major rust but there's a split at the front left and right corners.
> Also,
> > > the front panel at the top rail is split.
> > >
> > > He said it's been sitting for 5 years in storage.
> > >
> > > Question is what things should I look out for when I look at this
> trailer?
> > > Rust I know but what about axle rotation? Do these things freeze up?
> What
> > > do they turn on, bearings?
> > >
> > > He want's 250.00 for the trailer.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any input,
> > >
> > > Bill
>
>

CRWLR

I have the rounded fenders on the trailer that I have, and I truly love
pulling it. It follows me PERFECTLY. I drug it over the Rubicon behind my
CJ5, and I have pulled it through the Bad Lands out by the Salton Sea. It is
very cool because it almost never hits things that my Jeep avoids. Having
said that, I did manage to rip the tail lamps off of it, but that was more a
fucntion of the departure angle than dragging it past a tree. I went down
Heart Attack Hill out in Anza Borrego once while pulling my trailer. It was
Way Cool because I locked the trailer brake and the trailer then became an
anchor that held me steady on my course down the hill. The trailer actually
made the trip down easier than without the trailer!

I went to my local Ace Hardware and bought some high-quality bungee cords
and a 4x6 canvas tarp. I fill the trailer with a way-too-big tent and all of
the camping gear I can think of, and then fill a 60qt ice chest with beer
and ice, and hit the trails. I can even carry a 6ft folding banquet table to
set up at the campsite when we get there. I set the ice chest next to the
tailgate so I can get to its contents without having to completely undo the
bungees - all I need to do is unhook one cord and fold the flap over and the
ice chest is ready to despense its contents.
I installed the Mopar MPFI, the same one that you just installed, and a
Borla Header, and I don't even know the trailer is following me when I am on
the highway.






"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:btg6mt$6gqjm$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Just found out the freakin guy sold it out from under me. :-(
>
> I like the body style of the M416 better anyway (angled fenders over
rounded
> ones) so I'll keep looking.
>
> Anyway, What's the consensus regarding pulling a trailer behind a jeep. I
> have the image in my mind and thinking of using it for pulling camping
gear
> and supplies. Do CJ7s (I6, 258) pull trailers such as the M100 or M416
> well?
>
> thanks,
>
> bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FFB9B2A.2E418320@***.net...
> > If that's what turn you on:
> > http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Hubb...s/Bantam5.html
> > The bearing will have to be repacked before it goes anywhere other
> > than on another trailer, the rims should be the same size as your
> > Civilian Jeep.
> > Many times these things can be a nightmare trying to get a clear
> > tittle, like he may not even want to give you a bill of sale.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm going to look at a M100 to pull behind my CJ7. The guys says the
> tires
> > > and shocks will need to be replaced. Other than that it's in ok
shape.
> No
> > > major rust but there's a split at the front left and right corners.
> Also,
> > > the front panel at the top rail is split.
> > >
> > > He said it's been sitting for 5 years in storage.
> > >
> > > Question is what things should I look out for when I look at this
> trailer?
> > > Rust I know but what about axle rotation? Do these things freeze up?
> What
> > > do they turn on, bearings?
> > >
> > > He want's 250.00 for the trailer.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any input,
> > >
> > > Bill
>
>

CRWLR

I have the rounded fenders on the trailer that I have, and I truly love
pulling it. It follows me PERFECTLY. I drug it over the Rubicon behind my
CJ5, and I have pulled it through the Bad Lands out by the Salton Sea. It is
very cool because it almost never hits things that my Jeep avoids. Having
said that, I did manage to rip the tail lamps off of it, but that was more a
fucntion of the departure angle than dragging it past a tree. I went down
Heart Attack Hill out in Anza Borrego once while pulling my trailer. It was
Way Cool because I locked the trailer brake and the trailer then became an
anchor that held me steady on my course down the hill. The trailer actually
made the trip down easier than without the trailer!

I went to my local Ace Hardware and bought some high-quality bungee cords
and a 4x6 canvas tarp. I fill the trailer with a way-too-big tent and all of
the camping gear I can think of, and then fill a 60qt ice chest with beer
and ice, and hit the trails. I can even carry a 6ft folding banquet table to
set up at the campsite when we get there. I set the ice chest next to the
tailgate so I can get to its contents without having to completely undo the
bungees - all I need to do is unhook one cord and fold the flap over and the
ice chest is ready to despense its contents.
I installed the Mopar MPFI, the same one that you just installed, and a
Borla Header, and I don't even know the trailer is following me when I am on
the highway.






"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:btg6mt$6gqjm$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Just found out the freakin guy sold it out from under me. :-(
>
> I like the body style of the M416 better anyway (angled fenders over
rounded
> ones) so I'll keep looking.
>
> Anyway, What's the consensus regarding pulling a trailer behind a jeep. I
> have the image in my mind and thinking of using it for pulling camping
gear
> and supplies. Do CJ7s (I6, 258) pull trailers such as the M100 or M416
> well?
>
> thanks,
>
> bill
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FFB9B2A.2E418320@***.net...
> > If that's what turn you on:
> > http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Hubb...s/Bantam5.html
> > The bearing will have to be repacked before it goes anywhere other
> > than on another trailer, the rims should be the same size as your
> > Civilian Jeep.
> > Many times these things can be a nightmare trying to get a clear
> > tittle, like he may not even want to give you a bill of sale.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm going to look at a M100 to pull behind my CJ7. The guys says the
> tires
> > > and shocks will need to be replaced. Other than that it's in ok
shape.
> No
> > > major rust but there's a split at the front left and right corners.
> Also,
> > > the front panel at the top rail is split.
> > >
> > > He said it's been sitting for 5 years in storage.
> > >
> > > Question is what things should I look out for when I look at this
> trailer?
> > > Rust I know but what about axle rotation? Do these things freeze up?
> What
> > > do they turn on, bearings?
> > >
> > > He want's 250.00 for the trailer.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any input,
> > >
> > > Bill
>
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Great page, bookmarked, thanks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Pete Elton wrote:
>
> Not true. The M416 has a 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern.
> The only time the bolt pattern becomes an issue is when
> people (like me) want to tow one behind a TJ (5 on 4 1/2).
> I towed it behind my Suburban too, so I simply modified the
> trailer for an under-bed spare.
>
> The trailer tows great behind a Jeep. Check out my
> page below on the trailer I restored. I towed it from
> Las Vegas, NV to Moab, UT at highway speeds with no trouble.
>
> Pete
>
> --
>
> Pete Elton
> 2002 Solar Yellow TJ (Wrangler X)
> 1950 Orange CJ-3A
> m416 trailer http://vegasauto.net/m416/
>
> remove the '.jeep.' for the correct e-mail address.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Great page, bookmarked, thanks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Pete Elton wrote:
>
> Not true. The M416 has a 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern.
> The only time the bolt pattern becomes an issue is when
> people (like me) want to tow one behind a TJ (5 on 4 1/2).
> I towed it behind my Suburban too, so I simply modified the
> trailer for an under-bed spare.
>
> The trailer tows great behind a Jeep. Check out my
> page below on the trailer I restored. I towed it from
> Las Vegas, NV to Moab, UT at highway speeds with no trouble.
>
> Pete
>
> --
>
> Pete Elton
> 2002 Solar Yellow TJ (Wrangler X)
> 1950 Orange CJ-3A
> m416 trailer http://vegasauto.net/m416/
>
> remove the '.jeep.' for the correct e-mail address.