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Lon 12-16-2004 10:54 PM

Re: M-151 Mutt / Jeep
 

I quickly found out that the best way to sync multiple SU's was to
set them up properly once. Then replace the !#@$!@#$ original
equipment jets with ones that didn't leak at the hose coupling.
Then set them up again. Then use very light oil or better tranny
fluid in the dashpots. Then leave the damn things alone and go fix
the even more crappy ignition before laying a finger on the carbs.
The japanese versions on the old Datsun 2 litre 4 banger were pretty
much a set and forget type--unlike the MG, the TR Spitfire, the TR4,
the Jag [have I mentioned I tend to repeat mistakes yet?] etc.


Mike Romain proclaimed:

> That Austin is sweet. Triple SU's, man those must have been a riot to
> sync up. LOL! I played with lots of dual SU and Stromberg systems and
> they were a hoot. Got good enough the boys were bringing me the 6 packs
> to sync.
>
> The SU has a taller pot on it, the Stromberg or Zenith on the mutt is
> squatter like this Volvo one:
> http://www.volvoadventures.com/121JoaquinPeru1006.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>>Hi Mike,
>> When you suggested Stromberg, it reminds me that was the carburetor
>>I chose to use on my '57 Bird (pre big Holleys):
>>http://www.vintagespeed.com/newprod.htm to use on my 430" stinkin'
>>Lincoln conversion for '59, three 97s:
>>http://www.----------.com/tBirdPipeWrench.jpg The carburetor on the Mutt
>>looks exactly like the carburetors on an aluminum bodied '55 Austin
>>Healey I once owned. First and last British product, lesson well
>>learned. This '62 pictured says they were S. U.s:
>>http://www.hymanltd.com/search/detai...&recordCount=0
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/57bird.jpg
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>That sure looks like a Stromberg to me. Same one they used on the
>>>Volvo's.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Lon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Appears to be the dashpot cap of the sewer valve SU's, but seems a bit
>>>> short unless the photo is from an unobviously bad angle.
>>>> Hitachi-Solex would be another guess, but they were tall much like the
>>>> unlamented SU.
>>>>
>>>> PS. Wonder how much a Unisyn and SU Tool is worth on eBay?
>>>>
>>>>Dave Milne proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Looks like a Stromberg or SU.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:41BFC7A5.C686E726@cox.net...
>>>>> Does this look
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>like an American Carburetor to you?
>>>>>>http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military...lery/mutt3.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>


Lon 12-16-2004 10:54 PM

Re: M-151 Mutt / Jeep
 

I quickly found out that the best way to sync multiple SU's was to
set them up properly once. Then replace the !#@$!@#$ original
equipment jets with ones that didn't leak at the hose coupling.
Then set them up again. Then use very light oil or better tranny
fluid in the dashpots. Then leave the damn things alone and go fix
the even more crappy ignition before laying a finger on the carbs.
The japanese versions on the old Datsun 2 litre 4 banger were pretty
much a set and forget type--unlike the MG, the TR Spitfire, the TR4,
the Jag [have I mentioned I tend to repeat mistakes yet?] etc.


Mike Romain proclaimed:

> That Austin is sweet. Triple SU's, man those must have been a riot to
> sync up. LOL! I played with lots of dual SU and Stromberg systems and
> they were a hoot. Got good enough the boys were bringing me the 6 packs
> to sync.
>
> The SU has a taller pot on it, the Stromberg or Zenith on the mutt is
> squatter like this Volvo one:
> http://www.volvoadventures.com/121JoaquinPeru1006.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>>Hi Mike,
>> When you suggested Stromberg, it reminds me that was the carburetor
>>I chose to use on my '57 Bird (pre big Holleys):
>>http://www.vintagespeed.com/newprod.htm to use on my 430" stinkin'
>>Lincoln conversion for '59, three 97s:
>>http://www.----------.com/tBirdPipeWrench.jpg The carburetor on the Mutt
>>looks exactly like the carburetors on an aluminum bodied '55 Austin
>>Healey I once owned. First and last British product, lesson well
>>learned. This '62 pictured says they were S. U.s:
>>http://www.hymanltd.com/search/detai...&recordCount=0
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/57bird.jpg
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>That sure looks like a Stromberg to me. Same one they used on the
>>>Volvo's.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Lon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Appears to be the dashpot cap of the sewer valve SU's, but seems a bit
>>>> short unless the photo is from an unobviously bad angle.
>>>> Hitachi-Solex would be another guess, but they were tall much like the
>>>> unlamented SU.
>>>>
>>>> PS. Wonder how much a Unisyn and SU Tool is worth on eBay?
>>>>
>>>>Dave Milne proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Looks like a Stromberg or SU.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:41BFC7A5.C686E726@cox.net...
>>>>> Does this look
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>like an American Carburetor to you?
>>>>>>http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military...lery/mutt3.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>


Lon 12-16-2004 10:54 PM

Re: M-151 Mutt / Jeep
 

I quickly found out that the best way to sync multiple SU's was to
set them up properly once. Then replace the !#@$!@#$ original
equipment jets with ones that didn't leak at the hose coupling.
Then set them up again. Then use very light oil or better tranny
fluid in the dashpots. Then leave the damn things alone and go fix
the even more crappy ignition before laying a finger on the carbs.
The japanese versions on the old Datsun 2 litre 4 banger were pretty
much a set and forget type--unlike the MG, the TR Spitfire, the TR4,
the Jag [have I mentioned I tend to repeat mistakes yet?] etc.


Mike Romain proclaimed:

> That Austin is sweet. Triple SU's, man those must have been a riot to
> sync up. LOL! I played with lots of dual SU and Stromberg systems and
> they were a hoot. Got good enough the boys were bringing me the 6 packs
> to sync.
>
> The SU has a taller pot on it, the Stromberg or Zenith on the mutt is
> squatter like this Volvo one:
> http://www.volvoadventures.com/121JoaquinPeru1006.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>>Hi Mike,
>> When you suggested Stromberg, it reminds me that was the carburetor
>>I chose to use on my '57 Bird (pre big Holleys):
>>http://www.vintagespeed.com/newprod.htm to use on my 430" stinkin'
>>Lincoln conversion for '59, three 97s:
>>http://www.----------.com/tBirdPipeWrench.jpg The carburetor on the Mutt
>>looks exactly like the carburetors on an aluminum bodied '55 Austin
>>Healey I once owned. First and last British product, lesson well
>>learned. This '62 pictured says they were S. U.s:
>>http://www.hymanltd.com/search/detai...&recordCount=0
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/57bird.jpg
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>That sure looks like a Stromberg to me. Same one they used on the
>>>Volvo's.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Lon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Appears to be the dashpot cap of the sewer valve SU's, but seems a bit
>>>> short unless the photo is from an unobviously bad angle.
>>>> Hitachi-Solex would be another guess, but they were tall much like the
>>>> unlamented SU.
>>>>
>>>> PS. Wonder how much a Unisyn and SU Tool is worth on eBay?
>>>>
>>>>Dave Milne proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Looks like a Stromberg or SU.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:41BFC7A5.C686E726@cox.net...
>>>>> Does this look
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>like an American Carburetor to you?
>>>>>>http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military...lery/mutt3.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-17-2004 12:23 AM

Re: M-151 Mutt / Jeep
 
Yup, that's what that plastic screw thingie was for, to unscrew and
top off with oil, with every lube job. I took a job to start an old MG,
one of the sleeves was stuck wide open, and I didn't know it until after
I squirted it with starting fluid and cranked it. Must of done ten grand
for ten seconds, with the ignition off. Fortunately she tuned up
perfect, without any extra knocks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon wrote:
>
> I quickly found out that the best way to sync multiple SU's was to
> set them up properly once. Then replace the !#@$!@#$ original
> equipment jets with ones that didn't leak at the hose coupling.
> Then set them up again. Then use very light oil or better tranny
> fluid in the dashpots. Then leave the damn things alone and go fix
> the even more crappy ignition before laying a finger on the carbs.
> The japanese versions on the old Datsun 2 litre 4 banger were pretty
> much a set and forget type--unlike the MG, the TR Spitfire, the TR4,
> the Jag [have I mentioned I tend to repeat mistakes yet?] etc.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-17-2004 12:23 AM

Re: M-151 Mutt / Jeep
 
Yup, that's what that plastic screw thingie was for, to unscrew and
top off with oil, with every lube job. I took a job to start an old MG,
one of the sleeves was stuck wide open, and I didn't know it until after
I squirted it with starting fluid and cranked it. Must of done ten grand
for ten seconds, with the ignition off. Fortunately she tuned up
perfect, without any extra knocks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon wrote:
>
> I quickly found out that the best way to sync multiple SU's was to
> set them up properly once. Then replace the !#@$!@#$ original
> equipment jets with ones that didn't leak at the hose coupling.
> Then set them up again. Then use very light oil or better tranny
> fluid in the dashpots. Then leave the damn things alone and go fix
> the even more crappy ignition before laying a finger on the carbs.
> The japanese versions on the old Datsun 2 litre 4 banger were pretty
> much a set and forget type--unlike the MG, the TR Spitfire, the TR4,
> the Jag [have I mentioned I tend to repeat mistakes yet?] etc.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-17-2004 12:23 AM

Re: M-151 Mutt / Jeep
 
Yup, that's what that plastic screw thingie was for, to unscrew and
top off with oil, with every lube job. I took a job to start an old MG,
one of the sleeves was stuck wide open, and I didn't know it until after
I squirted it with starting fluid and cranked it. Must of done ten grand
for ten seconds, with the ignition off. Fortunately she tuned up
perfect, without any extra knocks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon wrote:
>
> I quickly found out that the best way to sync multiple SU's was to
> set them up properly once. Then replace the !#@$!@#$ original
> equipment jets with ones that didn't leak at the hose coupling.
> Then set them up again. Then use very light oil or better tranny
> fluid in the dashpots. Then leave the damn things alone and go fix
> the even more crappy ignition before laying a finger on the carbs.
> The japanese versions on the old Datsun 2 litre 4 banger were pretty
> much a set and forget type--unlike the MG, the TR Spitfire, the TR4,
> the Jag [have I mentioned I tend to repeat mistakes yet?] etc.


Dave Milne 12-17-2004 02:31 AM

Re: M-151 Mutt / Jeep
 
I had a boss who had one which would break down every other day. I fixed it
for him one lunchtime in a client's carpark so we could get home ; the
bastard wrote on my review form for the assignment that I had "oil under my
fingernails". If I ever see that MGB again, I'm doing to drive my Waggy
right over the top of it..

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41C26D37.E3EBF184@cox.net...
> Yup, that's what that plastic screw thingie was for, to unscrew and
> top off with oil, with every lube job. I took a job to start an old MG,
> one of the sleeves was stuck wide open, and I didn't know it until after
> I squirted it with starting fluid and cranked it. Must of done ten grand
> for ten seconds, with the ignition off. Fortunately she tuned up
> perfect, without any extra knocks.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/




Dave Milne 12-17-2004 02:31 AM

Re: M-151 Mutt / Jeep
 
I had a boss who had one which would break down every other day. I fixed it
for him one lunchtime in a client's carpark so we could get home ; the
bastard wrote on my review form for the assignment that I had "oil under my
fingernails". If I ever see that MGB again, I'm doing to drive my Waggy
right over the top of it..

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41C26D37.E3EBF184@cox.net...
> Yup, that's what that plastic screw thingie was for, to unscrew and
> top off with oil, with every lube job. I took a job to start an old MG,
> one of the sleeves was stuck wide open, and I didn't know it until after
> I squirted it with starting fluid and cranked it. Must of done ten grand
> for ten seconds, with the ignition off. Fortunately she tuned up
> perfect, without any extra knocks.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/




Dave Milne 12-17-2004 02:31 AM

Re: M-151 Mutt / Jeep
 
I had a boss who had one which would break down every other day. I fixed it
for him one lunchtime in a client's carpark so we could get home ; the
bastard wrote on my review form for the assignment that I had "oil under my
fingernails". If I ever see that MGB again, I'm doing to drive my Waggy
right over the top of it..

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41C26D37.E3EBF184@cox.net...
> Yup, that's what that plastic screw thingie was for, to unscrew and
> top off with oil, with every lube job. I took a job to start an old MG,
> one of the sleeves was stuck wide open, and I didn't know it until after
> I squirted it with starting fluid and cranked it. Must of done ten grand
> for ten seconds, with the ignition off. Fortunately she tuned up
> perfect, without any extra knocks.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/




Patrick 12-17-2004 12:33 PM

Re: M-151 Mutt / Jeep
 
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lXvwd.1538$Ar5.642@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> I had a boss who had one which would break down every other day. I fixed

it
> for him one lunchtime in a client's carpark so we could get home ; the
> bastard wrote on my review form for the assignment that I had "oil under

my
> fingernails". If I ever see that MGB again, I'm doing to drive my Waggy
> right over the top of it..
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:41C26D37.E3EBF184@cox.net...
> > Yup, that's what that plastic screw thingie was for, to unscrew and
> > top off with oil, with every lube job. I took a job to start an old MG,
> > one of the sleeves was stuck wide open, and I didn't know it until after
> > I squirted it with starting fluid and cranked it. Must of done ten grand
> > for ten seconds, with the ignition off. Fortunately she tuned up
> > perfect, without any extra knocks.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

>
>





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