Lug nuts and proper torque?
01-17-2004, 04:54 PM
#21
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Re: Lug nuts and proper torque?
Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
thanks again,
Jeff
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:<YybOb.1941$k%7.19927053@news-text.cableinet.net>...
> ditto
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Matt" <emailmatt9@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f16e279dfd510b03657986664d4c7aa9@news.teranew s.com...
> > I do mine at 110ft/lbs.
> >
> > --
> > Matt
> > '03 TJ Sport
> > 91 kawasaki 650sx
> > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> > news:b15a3f2e.0401161901.f89825c@posting.google.co m...
> > > After getting new tires from NTB a month ago, I just found out today
> > > that I'm missing a lug nut on a rear wheel. I found this out when I
> > > went to retorque them. I've been driving a month on it without
> > > realizing it! I'm getting a lug nut tomorrow, but after driving on it
> > > like this for a month, could this have bent my rim or damaged
> > > something? I'm pissed that this happened from the "professionals" at
> > > NTB. It was Sunday and they were getting ready to close, but......
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004
> >
> >
really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
thanks again,
Jeff
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:<YybOb.1941$k%7.19927053@news-text.cableinet.net>...
> ditto
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Matt" <emailmatt9@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f16e279dfd510b03657986664d4c7aa9@news.teranew s.com...
> > I do mine at 110ft/lbs.
> >
> > --
> > Matt
> > '03 TJ Sport
> > 91 kawasaki 650sx
> > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> > news:b15a3f2e.0401161901.f89825c@posting.google.co m...
> > > After getting new tires from NTB a month ago, I just found out today
> > > that I'm missing a lug nut on a rear wheel. I found this out when I
> > > went to retorque them. I've been driving a month on it without
> > > realizing it! I'm getting a lug nut tomorrow, but after driving on it
> > > like this for a month, could this have bent my rim or damaged
> > > something? I'm pissed that this happened from the "professionals" at
> > > NTB. It was Sunday and they were getting ready to close, but......
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004
> >
> >
01-17-2004, 04:54 PM
#22
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Re: Lug nuts and proper torque?
Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
thanks again,
Jeff
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:<YybOb.1941$k%7.19927053@news-text.cableinet.net>...
> ditto
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Matt" <emailmatt9@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f16e279dfd510b03657986664d4c7aa9@news.teranew s.com...
> > I do mine at 110ft/lbs.
> >
> > --
> > Matt
> > '03 TJ Sport
> > 91 kawasaki 650sx
> > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> > news:b15a3f2e.0401161901.f89825c@posting.google.co m...
> > > After getting new tires from NTB a month ago, I just found out today
> > > that I'm missing a lug nut on a rear wheel. I found this out when I
> > > went to retorque them. I've been driving a month on it without
> > > realizing it! I'm getting a lug nut tomorrow, but after driving on it
> > > like this for a month, could this have bent my rim or damaged
> > > something? I'm pissed that this happened from the "professionals" at
> > > NTB. It was Sunday and they were getting ready to close, but......
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004
> >
> >
really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
thanks again,
Jeff
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:<YybOb.1941$k%7.19927053@news-text.cableinet.net>...
> ditto
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Matt" <emailmatt9@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f16e279dfd510b03657986664d4c7aa9@news.teranew s.com...
> > I do mine at 110ft/lbs.
> >
> > --
> > Matt
> > '03 TJ Sport
> > 91 kawasaki 650sx
> > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> > news:b15a3f2e.0401161901.f89825c@posting.google.co m...
> > > After getting new tires from NTB a month ago, I just found out today
> > > that I'm missing a lug nut on a rear wheel. I found this out when I
> > > went to retorque them. I've been driving a month on it without
> > > realizing it! I'm getting a lug nut tomorrow, but after driving on it
> > > like this for a month, could this have bent my rim or damaged
> > > something? I'm pissed that this happened from the "professionals" at
> > > NTB. It was Sunday and they were getting ready to close, but......
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004
> >
> >
01-17-2004, 05:34 PM
#23
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Re: Lug nuts and proper torque?
In the old days, when there were service stations, the work order
would had boxes next the work performed that two people would have to
initial as done. like the person would have yelled out tight, and made a
signal like slapping the wrench, to which another would acknowledge then
sign off. A routine, like pilots go through a check list.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
stephjeff wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
> really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
> mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
> problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
> a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
> checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
> thanks again,
> Jeff
would had boxes next the work performed that two people would have to
initial as done. like the person would have yelled out tight, and made a
signal like slapping the wrench, to which another would acknowledge then
sign off. A routine, like pilots go through a check list.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
stephjeff wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
> really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
> mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
> problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
> a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
> checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
> thanks again,
> Jeff
01-17-2004, 05:34 PM
#24
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Re: Lug nuts and proper torque?
In the old days, when there were service stations, the work order
would had boxes next the work performed that two people would have to
initial as done. like the person would have yelled out tight, and made a
signal like slapping the wrench, to which another would acknowledge then
sign off. A routine, like pilots go through a check list.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
stephjeff wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
> really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
> mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
> problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
> a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
> checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
> thanks again,
> Jeff
would had boxes next the work performed that two people would have to
initial as done. like the person would have yelled out tight, and made a
signal like slapping the wrench, to which another would acknowledge then
sign off. A routine, like pilots go through a check list.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
stephjeff wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
> really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
> mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
> problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
> a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
> checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
> thanks again,
> Jeff
01-17-2004, 05:34 PM
#25
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Re: Lug nuts and proper torque?
In the old days, when there were service stations, the work order
would had boxes next the work performed that two people would have to
initial as done. like the person would have yelled out tight, and made a
signal like slapping the wrench, to which another would acknowledge then
sign off. A routine, like pilots go through a check list.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
stephjeff wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
> really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
> mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
> problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
> a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
> checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
> thanks again,
> Jeff
would had boxes next the work performed that two people would have to
initial as done. like the person would have yelled out tight, and made a
signal like slapping the wrench, to which another would acknowledge then
sign off. A routine, like pilots go through a check list.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
stephjeff wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
> really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
> mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
> problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
> a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
> checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
> thanks again,
> Jeff
01-17-2004, 10:23 PM
#26
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Re: Lug nuts and proper torque?
If they were interupted I think you might have also found a jack under
the vehicle.
On 17 Jan 2004 13:54:33 -0800, bag@centurytel.net (stephjeff) wrote:
>Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
>really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
>mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
>problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
>a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
>checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
>thanks again,
>Jeff
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:<YybOb.1941$k%7.19927053@news-text.cableinet.net>...
>> ditto
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>
>> "Matt" <emailmatt9@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:f16e279dfd510b03657986664d4c7aa9@news.teranew s.com...
>> > I do mine at 110ft/lbs.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt
>> > '03 TJ Sport
>> > 91 kawasaki 650sx
>> > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> > news:b15a3f2e.0401161901.f89825c@posting.google.co m...
>> > > After getting new tires from NTB a month ago, I just found out today
>> > > that I'm missing a lug nut on a rear wheel. I found this out when I
>> > > went to retorque them. I've been driving a month on it without
>> > > realizing it! I'm getting a lug nut tomorrow, but after driving on it
>> > > like this for a month, could this have bent my rim or damaged
>> > > something? I'm pissed that this happened from the "professionals" at
>> > > NTB. It was Sunday and they were getting ready to close, but......
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
>> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>> > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004
>> >
>> >
the vehicle.
On 17 Jan 2004 13:54:33 -0800, bag@centurytel.net (stephjeff) wrote:
>Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
>really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
>mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
>problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
>a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
>checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
>thanks again,
>Jeff
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:<YybOb.1941$k%7.19927053@news-text.cableinet.net>...
>> ditto
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>
>> "Matt" <emailmatt9@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:f16e279dfd510b03657986664d4c7aa9@news.teranew s.com...
>> > I do mine at 110ft/lbs.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt
>> > '03 TJ Sport
>> > 91 kawasaki 650sx
>> > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> > news:b15a3f2e.0401161901.f89825c@posting.google.co m...
>> > > After getting new tires from NTB a month ago, I just found out today
>> > > that I'm missing a lug nut on a rear wheel. I found this out when I
>> > > went to retorque them. I've been driving a month on it without
>> > > realizing it! I'm getting a lug nut tomorrow, but after driving on it
>> > > like this for a month, could this have bent my rim or damaged
>> > > something? I'm pissed that this happened from the "professionals" at
>> > > NTB. It was Sunday and they were getting ready to close, but......
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
>> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>> > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004
>> >
>> >
01-17-2004, 10:23 PM
#27
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Re: Lug nuts and proper torque?
If they were interupted I think you might have also found a jack under
the vehicle.
On 17 Jan 2004 13:54:33 -0800, bag@centurytel.net (stephjeff) wrote:
>Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
>really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
>mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
>problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
>a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
>checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
>thanks again,
>Jeff
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:<YybOb.1941$k%7.19927053@news-text.cableinet.net>...
>> ditto
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>
>> "Matt" <emailmatt9@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:f16e279dfd510b03657986664d4c7aa9@news.teranew s.com...
>> > I do mine at 110ft/lbs.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt
>> > '03 TJ Sport
>> > 91 kawasaki 650sx
>> > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> > news:b15a3f2e.0401161901.f89825c@posting.google.co m...
>> > > After getting new tires from NTB a month ago, I just found out today
>> > > that I'm missing a lug nut on a rear wheel. I found this out when I
>> > > went to retorque them. I've been driving a month on it without
>> > > realizing it! I'm getting a lug nut tomorrow, but after driving on it
>> > > like this for a month, could this have bent my rim or damaged
>> > > something? I'm pissed that this happened from the "professionals" at
>> > > NTB. It was Sunday and they were getting ready to close, but......
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
>> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>> > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004
>> >
>> >
the vehicle.
On 17 Jan 2004 13:54:33 -0800, bag@centurytel.net (stephjeff) wrote:
>Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
>really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
>mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
>problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
>a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
>checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
>thanks again,
>Jeff
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:<YybOb.1941$k%7.19927053@news-text.cableinet.net>...
>> ditto
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>
>> "Matt" <emailmatt9@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:f16e279dfd510b03657986664d4c7aa9@news.teranew s.com...
>> > I do mine at 110ft/lbs.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt
>> > '03 TJ Sport
>> > 91 kawasaki 650sx
>> > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> > news:b15a3f2e.0401161901.f89825c@posting.google.co m...
>> > > After getting new tires from NTB a month ago, I just found out today
>> > > that I'm missing a lug nut on a rear wheel. I found this out when I
>> > > went to retorque them. I've been driving a month on it without
>> > > realizing it! I'm getting a lug nut tomorrow, but after driving on it
>> > > like this for a month, could this have bent my rim or damaged
>> > > something? I'm pissed that this happened from the "professionals" at
>> > > NTB. It was Sunday and they were getting ready to close, but......
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
>> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>> > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004
>> >
>> >
01-17-2004, 10:23 PM
#28
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Re: Lug nuts and proper torque?
If they were interupted I think you might have also found a jack under
the vehicle.
On 17 Jan 2004 13:54:33 -0800, bag@centurytel.net (stephjeff) wrote:
>Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
>really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
>mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
>problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
>a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
>checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
>thanks again,
>Jeff
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:<YybOb.1941$k%7.19927053@news-text.cableinet.net>...
>> ditto
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>
>> "Matt" <emailmatt9@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:f16e279dfd510b03657986664d4c7aa9@news.teranew s.com...
>> > I do mine at 110ft/lbs.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt
>> > '03 TJ Sport
>> > 91 kawasaki 650sx
>> > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> > news:b15a3f2e.0401161901.f89825c@posting.google.co m...
>> > > After getting new tires from NTB a month ago, I just found out today
>> > > that I'm missing a lug nut on a rear wheel. I found this out when I
>> > > went to retorque them. I've been driving a month on it without
>> > > realizing it! I'm getting a lug nut tomorrow, but after driving on it
>> > > like this for a month, could this have bent my rim or damaged
>> > > something? I'm pissed that this happened from the "professionals" at
>> > > NTB. It was Sunday and they were getting ready to close, but......
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
>> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>> > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004
>> >
>> >
the vehicle.
On 17 Jan 2004 13:54:33 -0800, bag@centurytel.net (stephjeff) wrote:
>Thanks everyone for the input. I have had them torqued at 100 lbs. I
>really think it's too much of a coinidence to have it be a thief. I
>mean, after six years in my nice neighborhood and work, never had a
>problem. Like I said, it was closing time at NTB and they were all in
>a hurry. Seems to add up. It ultimately is my fault though for not
>checking. It just reinforces how leary I am of shops and trust.
>
>thanks again,
>Jeff
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:<YybOb.1941$k%7.19927053@news-text.cableinet.net>...
>> ditto
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>
>> "Matt" <emailmatt9@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:f16e279dfd510b03657986664d4c7aa9@news.teranew s.com...
>> > I do mine at 110ft/lbs.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt
>> > '03 TJ Sport
>> > 91 kawasaki 650sx
>> > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> > news:b15a3f2e.0401161901.f89825c@posting.google.co m...
>> > > After getting new tires from NTB a month ago, I just found out today
>> > > that I'm missing a lug nut on a rear wheel. I found this out when I
>> > > went to retorque them. I've been driving a month on it without
>> > > realizing it! I'm getting a lug nut tomorrow, but after driving on it
>> > > like this for a month, could this have bent my rim or damaged
>> > > something? I'm pissed that this happened from the "professionals" at
>> > > NTB. It was Sunday and they were getting ready to close, but......
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
>> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>> > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004
>> >
>> >
01-17-2004, 11:54 PM
#29
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Re: Lug nuts and proper torque?
The thieves I've grown up with just loosen the lug nuts on one pass
then on a later pass just pull the wheels and let the disks fall on the
ground. Ten seconds later they're gone. Several times I've found my lugs
loose, once my car on the ground. I haven't lost a wheel in twenty
years, partly due to the house motion detectors, and the car's alarm, a
couple of smashed rear seat windows, but they left the stereos.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> If they were interupted I think you might have also found a jack under
> the vehicle.
then on a later pass just pull the wheels and let the disks fall on the
ground. Ten seconds later they're gone. Several times I've found my lugs
loose, once my car on the ground. I haven't lost a wheel in twenty
years, partly due to the house motion detectors, and the car's alarm, a
couple of smashed rear seat windows, but they left the stereos.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Jeepster wrote:
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> If they were interupted I think you might have also found a jack under
> the vehicle.
01-17-2004, 11:54 PM
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Re: Lug nuts and proper torque?
The thieves I've grown up with just loosen the lug nuts on one pass
then on a later pass just pull the wheels and let the disks fall on the
ground. Ten seconds later they're gone. Several times I've found my lugs
loose, once my car on the ground. I haven't lost a wheel in twenty
years, partly due to the house motion detectors, and the car's alarm, a
couple of smashed rear seat windows, but they left the stereos.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> If they were interupted I think you might have also found a jack under
> the vehicle.
then on a later pass just pull the wheels and let the disks fall on the
ground. Ten seconds later they're gone. Several times I've found my lugs
loose, once my car on the ground. I haven't lost a wheel in twenty
years, partly due to the house motion detectors, and the car's alarm, a
couple of smashed rear seat windows, but they left the stereos.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> If they were interupted I think you might have also found a jack under
> the vehicle.