Lug nut torque & warped rotors
#81
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Re: Lug nut torque & warped rotors
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and getting
>sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs) were the number 2
>problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake job for comebacks, right
>behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
100 ft/lbs. Twice more, I nearly all four wheels simultaneously until
I checked with a dealer about the torque spec (turbine-style aluminum
wheels). I found that it is a frighteningly common occurrence, with
service station mechanics the usual culprits. It seemed every 5th or
6th person I talked to had had it happen to them or a family member.
It isn't that critical on steel rims, however, and my '77 Cherokee
only requires 75 ft/lbs.
>>
>>> "klutz" <klutz@klutzville.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Azdwf.8592$V.4423@fed1read04...
>>>> My wife's 2003 Grand Cherokee fell victim to warped rotors, but after
>>>> completing the repairs, I'm surmising that her driving style didn't
>>>> cause the problem. While removing the lug nuts with a breaker bar, I
>>>> felt a disparity in the effort required to loosen them. Hmmm. That
>>>> can't be good. I wondered what the torque was on the other wheel, so I
>>>> used a torque wrench to loosen the lugs. Torque varied from 80 to 125
>>>> lb/ft on the R/F wheel! Just for safety's sake, I checked the rear
>>>> wheels. Same sad shape. Torque was all over the map. Moral of the
>>>> story - when the dealer is doing warranty work (power window) and asks
>>>> if you want your tires rotated - tell 'em "No, thanks" - unless you can
>>>> oversee the job. Incidentally, the old rotors and pads had 29,000 miles
>>>> and wore evenly, with no glazing or hot spots. The pads have 5/16 of
>>>> friction material left. My money says that the dealer's tire-jockey has
>>>> caused me (and likely many others) to suffer from warped rotors.
>>>> Intentionally, perhaps? Hard to prove. Word to the wise - the 2003 WJ
>>>> has rotors made of soft cast iron. Inattention to wheel torque can
>>>> destroy them in a heartbeat.
From what I've been told, all the newer vehicles do, and at least some
factory rotors are also too thin to be turned.
Dan
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and getting
>sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs) were the number 2
>problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake job for comebacks, right
>behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
100 ft/lbs. Twice more, I nearly all four wheels simultaneously until
I checked with a dealer about the torque spec (turbine-style aluminum
wheels). I found that it is a frighteningly common occurrence, with
service station mechanics the usual culprits. It seemed every 5th or
6th person I talked to had had it happen to them or a family member.
It isn't that critical on steel rims, however, and my '77 Cherokee
only requires 75 ft/lbs.
>>
>>> "klutz" <klutz@klutzville.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Azdwf.8592$V.4423@fed1read04...
>>>> My wife's 2003 Grand Cherokee fell victim to warped rotors, but after
>>>> completing the repairs, I'm surmising that her driving style didn't
>>>> cause the problem. While removing the lug nuts with a breaker bar, I
>>>> felt a disparity in the effort required to loosen them. Hmmm. That
>>>> can't be good. I wondered what the torque was on the other wheel, so I
>>>> used a torque wrench to loosen the lugs. Torque varied from 80 to 125
>>>> lb/ft on the R/F wheel! Just for safety's sake, I checked the rear
>>>> wheels. Same sad shape. Torque was all over the map. Moral of the
>>>> story - when the dealer is doing warranty work (power window) and asks
>>>> if you want your tires rotated - tell 'em "No, thanks" - unless you can
>>>> oversee the job. Incidentally, the old rotors and pads had 29,000 miles
>>>> and wore evenly, with no glazing or hot spots. The pads have 5/16 of
>>>> friction material left. My money says that the dealer's tire-jockey has
>>>> caused me (and likely many others) to suffer from warped rotors.
>>>> Intentionally, perhaps? Hard to prove. Word to the wise - the 2003 WJ
>>>> has rotors made of soft cast iron. Inattention to wheel torque can
>>>> destroy them in a heartbeat.
From what I've been told, all the newer vehicles do, and at least some
factory rotors are also too thin to be turned.
Dan
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
#82
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Re: Lug nut torque & warped rotors
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and getting
>sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs) were the number 2
>problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake job for comebacks, right
>behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
100 ft/lbs. Twice more, I nearly all four wheels simultaneously until
I checked with a dealer about the torque spec (turbine-style aluminum
wheels). I found that it is a frighteningly common occurrence, with
service station mechanics the usual culprits. It seemed every 5th or
6th person I talked to had had it happen to them or a family member.
It isn't that critical on steel rims, however, and my '77 Cherokee
only requires 75 ft/lbs.
>>
>>> "klutz" <klutz@klutzville.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Azdwf.8592$V.4423@fed1read04...
>>>> My wife's 2003 Grand Cherokee fell victim to warped rotors, but after
>>>> completing the repairs, I'm surmising that her driving style didn't
>>>> cause the problem. While removing the lug nuts with a breaker bar, I
>>>> felt a disparity in the effort required to loosen them. Hmmm. That
>>>> can't be good. I wondered what the torque was on the other wheel, so I
>>>> used a torque wrench to loosen the lugs. Torque varied from 80 to 125
>>>> lb/ft on the R/F wheel! Just for safety's sake, I checked the rear
>>>> wheels. Same sad shape. Torque was all over the map. Moral of the
>>>> story - when the dealer is doing warranty work (power window) and asks
>>>> if you want your tires rotated - tell 'em "No, thanks" - unless you can
>>>> oversee the job. Incidentally, the old rotors and pads had 29,000 miles
>>>> and wore evenly, with no glazing or hot spots. The pads have 5/16 of
>>>> friction material left. My money says that the dealer's tire-jockey has
>>>> caused me (and likely many others) to suffer from warped rotors.
>>>> Intentionally, perhaps? Hard to prove. Word to the wise - the 2003 WJ
>>>> has rotors made of soft cast iron. Inattention to wheel torque can
>>>> destroy them in a heartbeat.
From what I've been told, all the newer vehicles do, and at least some
factory rotors are also too thin to be turned.
Dan
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and getting
>sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs) were the number 2
>problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake job for comebacks, right
>behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
100 ft/lbs. Twice more, I nearly all four wheels simultaneously until
I checked with a dealer about the torque spec (turbine-style aluminum
wheels). I found that it is a frighteningly common occurrence, with
service station mechanics the usual culprits. It seemed every 5th or
6th person I talked to had had it happen to them or a family member.
It isn't that critical on steel rims, however, and my '77 Cherokee
only requires 75 ft/lbs.
>>
>>> "klutz" <klutz@klutzville.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Azdwf.8592$V.4423@fed1read04...
>>>> My wife's 2003 Grand Cherokee fell victim to warped rotors, but after
>>>> completing the repairs, I'm surmising that her driving style didn't
>>>> cause the problem. While removing the lug nuts with a breaker bar, I
>>>> felt a disparity in the effort required to loosen them. Hmmm. That
>>>> can't be good. I wondered what the torque was on the other wheel, so I
>>>> used a torque wrench to loosen the lugs. Torque varied from 80 to 125
>>>> lb/ft on the R/F wheel! Just for safety's sake, I checked the rear
>>>> wheels. Same sad shape. Torque was all over the map. Moral of the
>>>> story - when the dealer is doing warranty work (power window) and asks
>>>> if you want your tires rotated - tell 'em "No, thanks" - unless you can
>>>> oversee the job. Incidentally, the old rotors and pads had 29,000 miles
>>>> and wore evenly, with no glazing or hot spots. The pads have 5/16 of
>>>> friction material left. My money says that the dealer's tire-jockey has
>>>> caused me (and likely many others) to suffer from warped rotors.
>>>> Intentionally, perhaps? Hard to prove. Word to the wise - the 2003 WJ
>>>> has rotors made of soft cast iron. Inattention to wheel torque can
>>>> destroy them in a heartbeat.
From what I've been told, all the newer vehicles do, and at least some
factory rotors are also too thin to be turned.
Dan
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Lug nut torque & warped rotors
Hootowl wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and getting
>>sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs) were the number 2
>>problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake job for comebacks, right
>>behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>
> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
[snip]
Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
had a good laugh about it.
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and getting
>>sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs) were the number 2
>>problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake job for comebacks, right
>>behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>
> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
[snip]
Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
had a good laugh about it.
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Re: Lug nut torque & warped rotors
Hootowl wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and getting
>>sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs) were the number 2
>>problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake job for comebacks, right
>>behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>
> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
[snip]
Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
had a good laugh about it.
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and getting
>>sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs) were the number 2
>>problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake job for comebacks, right
>>behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>
> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
[snip]
Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
had a good laugh about it.
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Re: Lug nut torque & warped rotors
Hootowl wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and getting
>>sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs) were the number 2
>>problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake job for comebacks, right
>>behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>
> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
[snip]
Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
had a good laugh about it.
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and getting
>>sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs) were the number 2
>>problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake job for comebacks, right
>>behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>
> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
[snip]
Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
had a good laugh about it.
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Re: Lug nut torque & warped rotors
Quite a few years ago. When I picked up my 88YJ
from the garage, after they replaced the wheel bearings
and axle seals I jumped on the freeway blasting to the
hunt camp to go fishing. When I felt a shimmy in the Jeep
"What the heck was that" I wondered. Looking in the rear view
mirror I could see one of my rear tires and axle bouncing
on the road behind me. Scared the heck outa me. Sure glad
no one was behind me. Mechanic told me they sent the wrong bearings
I still wonder about that.
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> Hootowl wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
>> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and
>>> getting sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs)
>>> were the number 2 problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake
>>> job for comebacks, right behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>>
>>
>> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
>> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
>> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
>> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
>
> [snip]
>
> Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
> loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
> we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
> looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
> street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
> or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
> the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
>
> Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
> middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
> ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
> from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
> had a good laugh about it.
from the garage, after they replaced the wheel bearings
and axle seals I jumped on the freeway blasting to the
hunt camp to go fishing. When I felt a shimmy in the Jeep
"What the heck was that" I wondered. Looking in the rear view
mirror I could see one of my rear tires and axle bouncing
on the road behind me. Scared the heck outa me. Sure glad
no one was behind me. Mechanic told me they sent the wrong bearings
I still wonder about that.
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> Hootowl wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
>> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and
>>> getting sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs)
>>> were the number 2 problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake
>>> job for comebacks, right behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>>
>>
>> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
>> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
>> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
>> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
>
> [snip]
>
> Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
> loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
> we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
> looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
> street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
> or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
> the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
>
> Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
> middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
> ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
> from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
> had a good laugh about it.
#87
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Re: Lug nut torque & warped rotors
Quite a few years ago. When I picked up my 88YJ
from the garage, after they replaced the wheel bearings
and axle seals I jumped on the freeway blasting to the
hunt camp to go fishing. When I felt a shimmy in the Jeep
"What the heck was that" I wondered. Looking in the rear view
mirror I could see one of my rear tires and axle bouncing
on the road behind me. Scared the heck outa me. Sure glad
no one was behind me. Mechanic told me they sent the wrong bearings
I still wonder about that.
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> Hootowl wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
>> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and
>>> getting sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs)
>>> were the number 2 problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake
>>> job for comebacks, right behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>>
>>
>> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
>> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
>> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
>> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
>
> [snip]
>
> Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
> loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
> we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
> looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
> street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
> or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
> the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
>
> Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
> middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
> ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
> from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
> had a good laugh about it.
from the garage, after they replaced the wheel bearings
and axle seals I jumped on the freeway blasting to the
hunt camp to go fishing. When I felt a shimmy in the Jeep
"What the heck was that" I wondered. Looking in the rear view
mirror I could see one of my rear tires and axle bouncing
on the road behind me. Scared the heck outa me. Sure glad
no one was behind me. Mechanic told me they sent the wrong bearings
I still wonder about that.
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> Hootowl wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
>> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and
>>> getting sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs)
>>> were the number 2 problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake
>>> job for comebacks, right behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>>
>>
>> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
>> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
>> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
>> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
>
> [snip]
>
> Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
> loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
> we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
> looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
> street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
> or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
> the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
>
> Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
> middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
> ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
> from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
> had a good laugh about it.
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Re: Lug nut torque & warped rotors
Quite a few years ago. When I picked up my 88YJ
from the garage, after they replaced the wheel bearings
and axle seals I jumped on the freeway blasting to the
hunt camp to go fishing. When I felt a shimmy in the Jeep
"What the heck was that" I wondered. Looking in the rear view
mirror I could see one of my rear tires and axle bouncing
on the road behind me. Scared the heck outa me. Sure glad
no one was behind me. Mechanic told me they sent the wrong bearings
I still wonder about that.
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> Hootowl wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
>> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and
>>> getting sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs)
>>> were the number 2 problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake
>>> job for comebacks, right behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>>
>>
>> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
>> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
>> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
>> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
>
> [snip]
>
> Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
> loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
> we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
> looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
> street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
> or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
> the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
>
> Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
> middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
> ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
> from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
> had a good laugh about it.
from the garage, after they replaced the wheel bearings
and axle seals I jumped on the freeway blasting to the
hunt camp to go fishing. When I felt a shimmy in the Jeep
"What the heck was that" I wondered. Looking in the rear view
mirror I could see one of my rear tires and axle bouncing
on the road behind me. Scared the heck outa me. Sure glad
no one was behind me. Mechanic told me they sent the wrong bearings
I still wonder about that.
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> Hootowl wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
>> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and
>>> getting sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs)
>>> were the number 2 problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake
>>> job for comebacks, right behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
>>
>>
>> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
>> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
>> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
>> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
>
> [snip]
>
> Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
> loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
> we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
> looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
> street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
> or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
> the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
>
> Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
> middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
> ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
> from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
> had a good laugh about it.
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Re: Lug nut torque & warped rotors
that's a kind of severe shimmy !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:t-GdnRHa6NMpeV7eRVn-jA@magma.ca...
> Quite a few years ago. When I picked up my 88YJ
> from the garage, after they replaced the wheel bearings
> and axle seals I jumped on the freeway blasting to the
> hunt camp to go fishing. When I felt a shimmy in the Jeep
> "What the heck was that" I wondered. Looking in the rear view
> mirror I could see one of my rear tires and axle bouncing
> on the road behind me. Scared the heck outa me. Sure glad
> no one was behind me. Mechanic told me they sent the wrong bearings
> I still wonder about that.
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > Hootowl wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
> >> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and
> >>> getting sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs)
> >>> were the number 2 problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake
> >>> job for comebacks, right behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
> >>
> >>
> >> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
> >> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
> >> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
> >> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
> > loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
> > we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
> > looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
> > street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
> > or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
> > the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
> >
> > Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
> > middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
> > ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
> > from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
> > had a good laugh about it.
>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:t-GdnRHa6NMpeV7eRVn-jA@magma.ca...
> Quite a few years ago. When I picked up my 88YJ
> from the garage, after they replaced the wheel bearings
> and axle seals I jumped on the freeway blasting to the
> hunt camp to go fishing. When I felt a shimmy in the Jeep
> "What the heck was that" I wondered. Looking in the rear view
> mirror I could see one of my rear tires and axle bouncing
> on the road behind me. Scared the heck outa me. Sure glad
> no one was behind me. Mechanic told me they sent the wrong bearings
> I still wonder about that.
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > Hootowl wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
> >> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and
> >>> getting sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs)
> >>> were the number 2 problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake
> >>> job for comebacks, right behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
> >>
> >>
> >> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
> >> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
> >> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
> >> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
> > loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
> > we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
> > looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
> > street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
> > or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
> > the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
> >
> > Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
> > middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
> > ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
> > from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
> > had a good laugh about it.
>
#90
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Re: Lug nut torque & warped rotors
that's a kind of severe shimmy !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:t-GdnRHa6NMpeV7eRVn-jA@magma.ca...
> Quite a few years ago. When I picked up my 88YJ
> from the garage, after they replaced the wheel bearings
> and axle seals I jumped on the freeway blasting to the
> hunt camp to go fishing. When I felt a shimmy in the Jeep
> "What the heck was that" I wondered. Looking in the rear view
> mirror I could see one of my rear tires and axle bouncing
> on the road behind me. Scared the heck outa me. Sure glad
> no one was behind me. Mechanic told me they sent the wrong bearings
> I still wonder about that.
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > Hootowl wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
> >> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and
> >>> getting sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs)
> >>> were the number 2 problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake
> >>> job for comebacks, right behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
> >>
> >>
> >> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
> >> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
> >> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
> >> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
> > loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
> > we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
> > looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
> > street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
> > or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
> > the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
> >
> > Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
> > middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
> > ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
> > from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
> > had a good laugh about it.
>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:t-GdnRHa6NMpeV7eRVn-jA@magma.ca...
> Quite a few years ago. When I picked up my 88YJ
> from the garage, after they replaced the wheel bearings
> and axle seals I jumped on the freeway blasting to the
> hunt camp to go fishing. When I felt a shimmy in the Jeep
> "What the heck was that" I wondered. Looking in the rear view
> mirror I could see one of my rear tires and axle bouncing
> on the road behind me. Scared the heck outa me. Sure glad
> no one was behind me. Mechanic told me they sent the wrong bearings
> I still wonder about that.
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > Hootowl wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:18 GMT, "Spdloader"
> >> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Costco "bothers" in order to keep the wheels from falling off and
> >>> getting sued. It happens more than you think. W/O's, (wheel offs)
> >>> were the number 2 problem with a vehicle with "mags" after a brake
> >>> job for comebacks, right behind brake squeal as complaints go for #1.
> >>
> >>
> >> Tell me about it! I had the left rear wheel come off my '80 lwb Dodge
> >> van in the wee hours one morning (it was loaded heavily with vending
> >> machine merchandise and had a full 36-gallon plastic tank to boot)
> >> after getting new tires. I found that the lug nuts had to torqued to
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Once upon a long farking time ago a car I was sitting in was hit by a
> > loose wheel. It was around midnight, my then-girlfriend was driving and
> > we'd pulled up to a stoplight in the little burg that we lived in. I
> > looked up the hill to our left and saw a tire and rim rolling down the
> > street -- no car, just a tire and rim. It must have hit a bit of gravel
> > or something because it hooked right and clipped her car just forward of
> > the front wheel, making a honkin huge dent in the fender.
> >
> > Driving up the hill we came upon a dazed guy leaning on his car in the
> > middle of the street, the left front of the car was leaning on the
> > ground where his tire and rim should have been. It was a good half mile
> > from where his last lug nut fell off to where the tire hit us. The cops
> > had a good laugh about it.
>