Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
">> > Drop the pan and plastigage the bearings. Tell us what you see. You > aren't > doing it any favors running it like that. > > Earle > > That's my plan, as soon as I heal my "wing". I had major shoulder surgery, and I'm in the 4th week of recovery / rehab now. The Jeep has been relegated to driveway duty since the problem got consistent, wife is rolling the miles up on the Explorer. Thanks, Spdloader |
Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
">> > Drop the pan and plastigage the bearings. Tell us what you see. You > aren't > doing it any favors running it like that. > > Earle > > That's my plan, as soon as I heal my "wing". I had major shoulder surgery, and I'm in the 4th week of recovery / rehab now. The Jeep has been relegated to driveway duty since the problem got consistent, wife is rolling the miles up on the Explorer. Thanks, Spdloader |
Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
">> > Drop the pan and plastigage the bearings. Tell us what you see. You > aren't > doing it any favors running it like that. > > Earle > > That's my plan, as soon as I heal my "wing". I had major shoulder surgery, and I'm in the 4th week of recovery / rehab now. The Jeep has been relegated to driveway duty since the problem got consistent, wife is rolling the miles up on the Explorer. Thanks, Spdloader |
Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
Spdloader wrote:
>> Somewhere back in foggy memory I remember an engine that had >> a ball and spring that kept the oil pressure regulated and one >> that bypassed the filter should it get cloged. But these days >> the bypass is built inside the filter. >> >> Might have been a Triumph? >> >> -- >> DougW > > Oh, now I get it. The ball and spring you refer to is in the oil pump > housing. I noticed it when I made the replacement. That's the sucker. One thought: I replaced the oil pump in my 4L after it dropped something like 15 PSI across the board on one 175 mile run. When I pulled it, it was obvious that the problem was a break in that thin paper gasket between the pump body and the block. Since the old pump had 175,000 miles on it, I went ahead and installed the new one anyway but I later ran a flow/pressure check on the old pump and it was still good - that one leaking gasket was apparently the whole problem. How careful were you about cleaning the surfaces when you mounted the new pump? It could be as simple as that. Small leaks on the high pressure side cause big problems. -- Will Honea |
Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
Spdloader wrote:
>> Somewhere back in foggy memory I remember an engine that had >> a ball and spring that kept the oil pressure regulated and one >> that bypassed the filter should it get cloged. But these days >> the bypass is built inside the filter. >> >> Might have been a Triumph? >> >> -- >> DougW > > Oh, now I get it. The ball and spring you refer to is in the oil pump > housing. I noticed it when I made the replacement. That's the sucker. One thought: I replaced the oil pump in my 4L after it dropped something like 15 PSI across the board on one 175 mile run. When I pulled it, it was obvious that the problem was a break in that thin paper gasket between the pump body and the block. Since the old pump had 175,000 miles on it, I went ahead and installed the new one anyway but I later ran a flow/pressure check on the old pump and it was still good - that one leaking gasket was apparently the whole problem. How careful were you about cleaning the surfaces when you mounted the new pump? It could be as simple as that. Small leaks on the high pressure side cause big problems. -- Will Honea |
Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
Spdloader wrote:
>> Somewhere back in foggy memory I remember an engine that had >> a ball and spring that kept the oil pressure regulated and one >> that bypassed the filter should it get cloged. But these days >> the bypass is built inside the filter. >> >> Might have been a Triumph? >> >> -- >> DougW > > Oh, now I get it. The ball and spring you refer to is in the oil pump > housing. I noticed it when I made the replacement. That's the sucker. One thought: I replaced the oil pump in my 4L after it dropped something like 15 PSI across the board on one 175 mile run. When I pulled it, it was obvious that the problem was a break in that thin paper gasket between the pump body and the block. Since the old pump had 175,000 miles on it, I went ahead and installed the new one anyway but I later ran a flow/pressure check on the old pump and it was still good - that one leaking gasket was apparently the whole problem. How careful were you about cleaning the surfaces when you mounted the new pump? It could be as simple as that. Small leaks on the high pressure side cause big problems. -- Will Honea |
Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
Spdloader wrote:
>> Somewhere back in foggy memory I remember an engine that had >> a ball and spring that kept the oil pressure regulated and one >> that bypassed the filter should it get cloged. But these days >> the bypass is built inside the filter. >> >> Might have been a Triumph? >> >> -- >> DougW > > Oh, now I get it. The ball and spring you refer to is in the oil pump > housing. I noticed it when I made the replacement. That's the sucker. One thought: I replaced the oil pump in my 4L after it dropped something like 15 PSI across the board on one 175 mile run. When I pulled it, it was obvious that the problem was a break in that thin paper gasket between the pump body and the block. Since the old pump had 175,000 miles on it, I went ahead and installed the new one anyway but I later ran a flow/pressure check on the old pump and it was still good - that one leaking gasket was apparently the whole problem. How careful were you about cleaning the surfaces when you mounted the new pump? It could be as simple as that. Small leaks on the high pressure side cause big problems. -- Will Honea |
Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4638fb47$0$492$815e3792@news.qwest.net... > Spdloader wrote: > >>> Somewhere back in foggy memory I remember an engine that had >>> a ball and spring that kept the oil pressure regulated and one >>> that bypassed the filter should it get cloged. But these days >>> the bypass is built inside the filter. >>> >>> Might have been a Triumph? >>> >>> -- >>> DougW >> >> Oh, now I get it. The ball and spring you refer to is in the oil pump >> housing. I noticed it when I made the replacement. > > That's the sucker. One thought: I replaced the oil pump in my 4L after it > dropped something like 15 PSI across the board on one 175 mile run. When > I > pulled it, it was obvious that the problem was a break in that thin paper > gasket between the pump body and the block. Since the old pump had > 175,000 > miles on it, I went ahead and installed the new one anyway but I later ran > a flow/pressure check on the old pump and it was still good - that one > leaking gasket was apparently the whole problem. How careful were you > about cleaning the surfaces when you mounted the new pump? It could be as > simple as that. Small leaks on the high pressure side cause big problems. > > -- > Will Honea Well, I was careful, I did not make it a top priority though. The old gasket came off with the old pump, I wiped the mating surface with a shop towel before slipping the new pump and gasket into place, but that's about it, other than torqueing the pump bolts. I have read before the bulletin about the gasket failure, but the old gasket seemed fine to me. Spdloader |
Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4638fb47$0$492$815e3792@news.qwest.net... > Spdloader wrote: > >>> Somewhere back in foggy memory I remember an engine that had >>> a ball and spring that kept the oil pressure regulated and one >>> that bypassed the filter should it get cloged. But these days >>> the bypass is built inside the filter. >>> >>> Might have been a Triumph? >>> >>> -- >>> DougW >> >> Oh, now I get it. The ball and spring you refer to is in the oil pump >> housing. I noticed it when I made the replacement. > > That's the sucker. One thought: I replaced the oil pump in my 4L after it > dropped something like 15 PSI across the board on one 175 mile run. When > I > pulled it, it was obvious that the problem was a break in that thin paper > gasket between the pump body and the block. Since the old pump had > 175,000 > miles on it, I went ahead and installed the new one anyway but I later ran > a flow/pressure check on the old pump and it was still good - that one > leaking gasket was apparently the whole problem. How careful were you > about cleaning the surfaces when you mounted the new pump? It could be as > simple as that. Small leaks on the high pressure side cause big problems. > > -- > Will Honea Well, I was careful, I did not make it a top priority though. The old gasket came off with the old pump, I wiped the mating surface with a shop towel before slipping the new pump and gasket into place, but that's about it, other than torqueing the pump bolts. I have read before the bulletin about the gasket failure, but the old gasket seemed fine to me. Spdloader |
Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4638fb47$0$492$815e3792@news.qwest.net... > Spdloader wrote: > >>> Somewhere back in foggy memory I remember an engine that had >>> a ball and spring that kept the oil pressure regulated and one >>> that bypassed the filter should it get cloged. But these days >>> the bypass is built inside the filter. >>> >>> Might have been a Triumph? >>> >>> -- >>> DougW >> >> Oh, now I get it. The ball and spring you refer to is in the oil pump >> housing. I noticed it when I made the replacement. > > That's the sucker. One thought: I replaced the oil pump in my 4L after it > dropped something like 15 PSI across the board on one 175 mile run. When > I > pulled it, it was obvious that the problem was a break in that thin paper > gasket between the pump body and the block. Since the old pump had > 175,000 > miles on it, I went ahead and installed the new one anyway but I later ran > a flow/pressure check on the old pump and it was still good - that one > leaking gasket was apparently the whole problem. How careful were you > about cleaning the surfaces when you mounted the new pump? It could be as > simple as that. Small leaks on the high pressure side cause big problems. > > -- > Will Honea Well, I was careful, I did not make it a top priority though. The old gasket came off with the old pump, I wiped the mating surface with a shop towel before slipping the new pump and gasket into place, but that's about it, other than torqueing the pump bolts. I have read before the bulletin about the gasket failure, but the old gasket seemed fine to me. Spdloader |
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