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Spdloader 05-01-2007 01:33 PM

Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Wife's '97 TJ, 2.5eng., 77,000 miles.

Never been under water, or overheated.

Oil always changed at 3500mile intervals.

Problem: It has low oil pressure after warm up.

Cold (ambient, 65deg.) pressure is 45psi. After warm up, it cruises around
25-30psi then it idles down to "0", and all the check gauges lights all come
on. Pressure confirmed within a psi or two with a "live" gauge.
Tapping the throttle obviously raises the pressure slightly, and lights go
off. Running the A/C helps increase the idle slightly, increasing pressure
slightly.

Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump, which
made no difference whatsoever. I switched to straight 30W oil, which has a
higher cold start pressure, but makes no difference after warm up.

I don't really want to change the engine, but it would be easier than
putting in new main, rod, and cam bearings.

Any other ideas, or is there something about these 2.5's I've missed?

Spdloader



SnoMan 05-01-2007 02:09 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 13:33:22 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>I don't really want to change the engine, but it would be easier than
>putting in new main, rod, and cam bearings.
>
>Any other ideas, or is there something about these 2.5's I've missed?



Sounds like worn bearings. You might try 15w40 (not 10w40) as this can
boost pressure in a worn engine. Sometimes a can of STP or motor honey
can help here too but a real fix would be new bearings and you should
be able to replace them in car easier than a engine change. The 2.5 is
a sturdy mill and not trouble prone in this area. You did not mention
if you bought it new or the mileage on it. Also that engine tends to
work pretty hard at times and 3K miles is a better change interval for
it. I have one in my wifes 2000 Cherokee 5sp (we had a very hard time
finding one with a 2.5 too) and it has been trouble free since we
bought it new and it has over 80K on it now. Never regreted getting it
with 2.5 either as it is mostly a commuter and it gets around 20 or so
in town consistantly and around 23 to 25 MPG on the road with A/C on
longer runs to kids college. It has gotten as high as 27. Motor has
good torque for its size.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-01-2007 02:09 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 13:33:22 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>I don't really want to change the engine, but it would be easier than
>putting in new main, rod, and cam bearings.
>
>Any other ideas, or is there something about these 2.5's I've missed?



Sounds like worn bearings. You might try 15w40 (not 10w40) as this can
boost pressure in a worn engine. Sometimes a can of STP or motor honey
can help here too but a real fix would be new bearings and you should
be able to replace them in car easier than a engine change. The 2.5 is
a sturdy mill and not trouble prone in this area. You did not mention
if you bought it new or the mileage on it. Also that engine tends to
work pretty hard at times and 3K miles is a better change interval for
it. I have one in my wifes 2000 Cherokee 5sp (we had a very hard time
finding one with a 2.5 too) and it has been trouble free since we
bought it new and it has over 80K on it now. Never regreted getting it
with 2.5 either as it is mostly a commuter and it gets around 20 or so
in town consistantly and around 23 to 25 MPG on the road with A/C on
longer runs to kids college. It has gotten as high as 27. Motor has
good torque for its size.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-01-2007 02:09 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 13:33:22 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>I don't really want to change the engine, but it would be easier than
>putting in new main, rod, and cam bearings.
>
>Any other ideas, or is there something about these 2.5's I've missed?



Sounds like worn bearings. You might try 15w40 (not 10w40) as this can
boost pressure in a worn engine. Sometimes a can of STP or motor honey
can help here too but a real fix would be new bearings and you should
be able to replace them in car easier than a engine change. The 2.5 is
a sturdy mill and not trouble prone in this area. You did not mention
if you bought it new or the mileage on it. Also that engine tends to
work pretty hard at times and 3K miles is a better change interval for
it. I have one in my wifes 2000 Cherokee 5sp (we had a very hard time
finding one with a 2.5 too) and it has been trouble free since we
bought it new and it has over 80K on it now. Never regreted getting it
with 2.5 either as it is mostly a commuter and it gets around 20 or so
in town consistantly and around 23 to 25 MPG on the road with A/C on
longer runs to kids college. It has gotten as high as 27. Motor has
good torque for its size.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-01-2007 02:09 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 13:33:22 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>I don't really want to change the engine, but it would be easier than
>putting in new main, rod, and cam bearings.
>
>Any other ideas, or is there something about these 2.5's I've missed?



Sounds like worn bearings. You might try 15w40 (not 10w40) as this can
boost pressure in a worn engine. Sometimes a can of STP or motor honey
can help here too but a real fix would be new bearings and you should
be able to replace them in car easier than a engine change. The 2.5 is
a sturdy mill and not trouble prone in this area. You did not mention
if you bought it new or the mileage on it. Also that engine tends to
work pretty hard at times and 3K miles is a better change interval for
it. I have one in my wifes 2000 Cherokee 5sp (we had a very hard time
finding one with a 2.5 too) and it has been trouble free since we
bought it new and it has over 80K on it now. Never regreted getting it
with 2.5 either as it is mostly a commuter and it gets around 20 or so
in town consistantly and around 23 to 25 MPG on the road with A/C on
longer runs to kids college. It has gotten as high as 27. Motor has
good torque for its size.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Richard J Kinch 05-01-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Spdloader writes:

> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
> which made no difference whatsoever.


Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your pump
changeout?

Richard J Kinch 05-01-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Spdloader writes:

> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
> which made no difference whatsoever.


Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your pump
changeout?

Richard J Kinch 05-01-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Spdloader writes:

> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
> which made no difference whatsoever.


Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your pump
changeout?

Richard J Kinch 05-01-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Spdloader writes:

> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
> which made no difference whatsoever.


Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your pump
changeout?

Spdloader 05-01-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

You did not mention
> if you bought it new or the mileage on it.



Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage was 77,000.

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-01-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

You did not mention
> if you bought it new or the mileage on it.



Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage was 77,000.

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-01-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

You did not mention
> if you bought it new or the mileage on it.



Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage was 77,000.

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-01-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

You did not mention
> if you bought it new or the mileage on it.



Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage was 77,000.

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-01-2007 02:59 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9923967FBB28Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Spdloader writes:
>
>> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
>> which made no difference whatsoever.

>
> Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
> be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your
> pump
> changeout?


Yep, the new pump came with the tube pressed in and welded.

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-01-2007 02:59 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9923967FBB28Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Spdloader writes:
>
>> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
>> which made no difference whatsoever.

>
> Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
> be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your
> pump
> changeout?


Yep, the new pump came with the tube pressed in and welded.

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-01-2007 02:59 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9923967FBB28Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Spdloader writes:
>
>> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
>> which made no difference whatsoever.

>
> Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
> be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your
> pump
> changeout?


Yep, the new pump came with the tube pressed in and welded.

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-01-2007 02:59 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9923967FBB28Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Spdloader writes:
>
>> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
>> which made no difference whatsoever.

>
> Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
> be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your
> pump
> changeout?


Yep, the new pump came with the tube pressed in and welded.

Spdloader



SnoMan 05-01-2007 03:31 PM

Re: Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 14:58:31 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
> You did not mention
>> if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>
>
>Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage was 77,000.
>
>Spdloader
>



I guess I missed that. Still it is unusual because that 4 is based off
of old 232/258 block and is a sturdy design.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-01-2007 03:31 PM

Re: Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 14:58:31 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
> You did not mention
>> if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>
>
>Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage was 77,000.
>
>Spdloader
>



I guess I missed that. Still it is unusual because that 4 is based off
of old 232/258 block and is a sturdy design.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-01-2007 03:31 PM

Re: Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 14:58:31 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
> You did not mention
>> if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>
>
>Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage was 77,000.
>
>Spdloader
>



I guess I missed that. Still it is unusual because that 4 is based off
of old 232/258 block and is a sturdy design.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-01-2007 03:31 PM

Re: Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 14:58:31 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
> You did not mention
>> if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>
>
>Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage was 77,000.
>
>Spdloader
>



I guess I missed that. Still it is unusual because that 4 is based off
of old 232/258 block and is a sturdy design.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-01-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 14:59:52 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns9923967FBB28Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131 ...
>> Spdloader writes:
>>
>>> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
>>> which made no difference whatsoever.

>>
>> Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
>> be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your
>> pump
>> changeout?

>
>Yep, the new pump came with the tube pressed in and welded.
>
>Spdloader
>



Another thing that you could do that is a bit extreme but would help
even a new engine is add a external engine oil cooler as it cools oil
before it reaches bearing which boost pressure in a hot motor but
15w40 is your best bet now while sorting this out.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-01-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 14:59:52 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns9923967FBB28Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131 ...
>> Spdloader writes:
>>
>>> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
>>> which made no difference whatsoever.

>>
>> Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
>> be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your
>> pump
>> changeout?

>
>Yep, the new pump came with the tube pressed in and welded.
>
>Spdloader
>



Another thing that you could do that is a bit extreme but would help
even a new engine is add a external engine oil cooler as it cools oil
before it reaches bearing which boost pressure in a hot motor but
15w40 is your best bet now while sorting this out.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-01-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 14:59:52 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns9923967FBB28Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131 ...
>> Spdloader writes:
>>
>>> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
>>> which made no difference whatsoever.

>>
>> Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
>> be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your
>> pump
>> changeout?

>
>Yep, the new pump came with the tube pressed in and welded.
>
>Spdloader
>



Another thing that you could do that is a bit extreme but would help
even a new engine is add a external engine oil cooler as it cools oil
before it reaches bearing which boost pressure in a hot motor but
15w40 is your best bet now while sorting this out.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-01-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
On Tue, 1 May 2007 14:59:52 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns9923967FBB28Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131 ...
>> Spdloader writes:
>>
>>> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,
>>> which made no difference whatsoever.

>>
>> Dunno about your 2.5, but on the 4.0, there's a press-fit tube that has to
>> be changed with the oil pump to get a good fit. Was that part of your
>> pump
>> changeout?

>
>Yep, the new pump came with the tube pressed in and welded.
>
>Spdloader
>



Another thing that you could do that is a bit extreme but would help
even a new engine is add a external engine oil cooler as it cools oil
before it reaches bearing which boost pressure in a hot motor but
15w40 is your best bet now while sorting this out.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Earle Horton 05-01-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46378d8c$0$15097$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> You did not mention
> > if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>
>
> Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage
> was 77,000.
>

Mine's got 90,000+ miles, and it still gets the same oil pressure as it did
when new. The symptoms point to bearings.

Cheers,

Earle



Earle Horton 05-01-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46378d8c$0$15097$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> You did not mention
> > if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>
>
> Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage
> was 77,000.
>

Mine's got 90,000+ miles, and it still gets the same oil pressure as it did
when new. The symptoms point to bearings.

Cheers,

Earle



Earle Horton 05-01-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46378d8c$0$15097$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> You did not mention
> > if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>
>
> Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage
> was 77,000.
>

Mine's got 90,000+ miles, and it still gets the same oil pressure as it did
when new. The symptoms point to bearings.

Cheers,

Earle



Earle Horton 05-01-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46378d8c$0$15097$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> You did not mention
> > if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>
>
> Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage
> was 77,000.
>

Mine's got 90,000+ miles, and it still gets the same oil pressure as it did
when new. The symptoms point to bearings.

Cheers,

Earle



Spdloader 05-01-2007 05:14 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

"Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
news:46379b1c$0$31797$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46378d8c$0$15097$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> You did not mention
>> > if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>>
>>
>> Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage
>> was 77,000.
>>

> Mine's got 90,000+ miles, and it still gets the same oil pressure as it
> did
> when new. The symptoms point to bearings.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
>

I'm in denial right now Earle, humor me a bit.

lol

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-01-2007 05:14 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

"Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
news:46379b1c$0$31797$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46378d8c$0$15097$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> You did not mention
>> > if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>>
>>
>> Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage
>> was 77,000.
>>

> Mine's got 90,000+ miles, and it still gets the same oil pressure as it
> did
> when new. The symptoms point to bearings.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
>

I'm in denial right now Earle, humor me a bit.

lol

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-01-2007 05:14 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

"Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
news:46379b1c$0$31797$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46378d8c$0$15097$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> You did not mention
>> > if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>>
>>
>> Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage
>> was 77,000.
>>

> Mine's got 90,000+ miles, and it still gets the same oil pressure as it
> did
> when new. The symptoms point to bearings.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
>

I'm in denial right now Earle, humor me a bit.

lol

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-01-2007 05:14 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 

"Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
news:46379b1c$0$31797$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46378d8c$0$15097$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> You did not mention
>> > if you bought it new or the mileage on it.

>>
>>
>> Um, I did buy it new, and I did mention that the mileage
>> was 77,000.
>>

> Mine's got 90,000+ miles, and it still gets the same oil pressure as it
> did
> when new. The symptoms point to bearings.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
>

I'm in denial right now Earle, humor me a bit.

lol

Spdloader



L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-01-2007 07:07 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Even though you only have eighty thousand on, they may have been driven
with the petal to the metal, just trying to keep up with the traffic, so
your engine looks more like it just completed the Indy five hundred, switch
to a 20/50 to squeeze another hundred out of it. Also with the blow by
caused by the foot to the wood, contaminates would quickly clog the oil
filter, and limit the oil feeding your engine and getting to the pressure
gauge, so start changing her by a couple thousand.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46377996$0$5619$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Wife's '97 TJ, 2.5eng., 77,000 miles.
>
> Never been under water, or overheated.
>
> Oil always changed at 3500mile intervals.
>
> Problem: It has low oil pressure after warm up.
>
> Cold (ambient, 65deg.) pressure is 45psi. After warm up, it cruises around
> 25-30psi then it idles down to "0", and all the check gauges lights all

come
> on. Pressure confirmed within a psi or two with a "live" gauge.
> Tapping the throttle obviously raises the pressure slightly, and lights go
> off. Running the A/C helps increase the idle slightly, increasing pressure
> slightly.
>
> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,

which
> made no difference whatsoever. I switched to straight 30W oil, which has a
> higher cold start pressure, but makes no difference after warm up.
>
> I don't really want to change the engine, but it would be easier than
> putting in new main, rod, and cam bearings.
>
> Any other ideas, or is there something about these 2.5's I've missed?
>
> Spdloader
>
>




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-01-2007 07:07 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Even though you only have eighty thousand on, they may have been driven
with the petal to the metal, just trying to keep up with the traffic, so
your engine looks more like it just completed the Indy five hundred, switch
to a 20/50 to squeeze another hundred out of it. Also with the blow by
caused by the foot to the wood, contaminates would quickly clog the oil
filter, and limit the oil feeding your engine and getting to the pressure
gauge, so start changing her by a couple thousand.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Wife's '97 TJ, 2.5eng., 77,000 miles.
>
> Never been under water, or overheated.
>
> Oil always changed at 3500mile intervals.
>
> Problem: It has low oil pressure after warm up.
>
> Cold (ambient, 65deg.) pressure is 45psi. After warm up, it cruises around
> 25-30psi then it idles down to "0", and all the check gauges lights all

come
> on. Pressure confirmed within a psi or two with a "live" gauge.
> Tapping the throttle obviously raises the pressure slightly, and lights go
> off. Running the A/C helps increase the idle slightly, increasing pressure
> slightly.
>
> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,

which
> made no difference whatsoever. I switched to straight 30W oil, which has a
> higher cold start pressure, but makes no difference after warm up.
>
> I don't really want to change the engine, but it would be easier than
> putting in new main, rod, and cam bearings.
>
> Any other ideas, or is there something about these 2.5's I've missed?
>
> Spdloader
>
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-01-2007 07:07 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Even though you only have eighty thousand on, they may have been driven
with the petal to the metal, just trying to keep up with the traffic, so
your engine looks more like it just completed the Indy five hundred, switch
to a 20/50 to squeeze another hundred out of it. Also with the blow by
caused by the foot to the wood, contaminates would quickly clog the oil
filter, and limit the oil feeding your engine and getting to the pressure
gauge, so start changing her by a couple thousand.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46377996$0$5619$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Wife's '97 TJ, 2.5eng., 77,000 miles.
>
> Never been under water, or overheated.
>
> Oil always changed at 3500mile intervals.
>
> Problem: It has low oil pressure after warm up.
>
> Cold (ambient, 65deg.) pressure is 45psi. After warm up, it cruises around
> 25-30psi then it idles down to "0", and all the check gauges lights all

come
> on. Pressure confirmed within a psi or two with a "live" gauge.
> Tapping the throttle obviously raises the pressure slightly, and lights go
> off. Running the A/C helps increase the idle slightly, increasing pressure
> slightly.
>
> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,

which
> made no difference whatsoever. I switched to straight 30W oil, which has a
> higher cold start pressure, but makes no difference after warm up.
>
> I don't really want to change the engine, but it would be easier than
> putting in new main, rod, and cam bearings.
>
> Any other ideas, or is there something about these 2.5's I've missed?
>
> Spdloader
>
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-01-2007 07:07 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Even though you only have eighty thousand on, they may have been driven
with the petal to the metal, just trying to keep up with the traffic, so
your engine looks more like it just completed the Indy five hundred, switch
to a 20/50 to squeeze another hundred out of it. Also with the blow by
caused by the foot to the wood, contaminates would quickly clog the oil
filter, and limit the oil feeding your engine and getting to the pressure
gauge, so start changing her by a couple thousand.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46377996$0$5619$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Wife's '97 TJ, 2.5eng., 77,000 miles.
>
> Never been under water, or overheated.
>
> Oil always changed at 3500mile intervals.
>
> Problem: It has low oil pressure after warm up.
>
> Cold (ambient, 65deg.) pressure is 45psi. After warm up, it cruises around
> 25-30psi then it idles down to "0", and all the check gauges lights all

come
> on. Pressure confirmed within a psi or two with a "live" gauge.
> Tapping the throttle obviously raises the pressure slightly, and lights go
> off. Running the A/C helps increase the idle slightly, increasing pressure
> slightly.
>
> Hoping but not really believing it would work, I changed the oil pump,

which
> made no difference whatsoever. I switched to straight 30W oil, which has a
> higher cold start pressure, but makes no difference after warm up.
>
> I don't really want to change the engine, but it would be easier than
> putting in new main, rod, and cam bearings.
>
> Any other ideas, or is there something about these 2.5's I've missed?
>
> Spdloader
>
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-01-2007 07:16 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Pedal.

> Even though you only have eighty thousand on, they may have been

driven
> with the petal to the metal, just trying to keep up with the traffic, so
> your engine looks more like it just completed the Indy five hundred,

switch
> to a 20/50 to squeeze another hundred out of it. Also with the blow by
> caused by the foot to the wood, contaminates would quickly clog the oil
> filter, and limit the oil feeding your engine and getting to the pressure
> gauge, so start changing her by a couple thousand.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-01-2007 07:16 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Pedal.

> Even though you only have eighty thousand on, they may have been

driven
> with the petal to the metal, just trying to keep up with the traffic, so
> your engine looks more like it just completed the Indy five hundred,

switch
> to a 20/50 to squeeze another hundred out of it. Also with the blow by
> caused by the foot to the wood, contaminates would quickly clog the oil
> filter, and limit the oil feeding your engine and getting to the pressure
> gauge, so start changing her by a couple thousand.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-01-2007 07:16 PM

Re: Low Oil Pressure Guesses
 
Pedal.

> Even though you only have eighty thousand on, they may have been

driven
> with the petal to the metal, just trying to keep up with the traffic, so
> your engine looks more like it just completed the Indy five hundred,

switch
> to a 20/50 to squeeze another hundred out of it. Also with the blow by
> caused by the foot to the wood, contaminates would quickly clog the oil
> filter, and limit the oil feeding your engine and getting to the pressure
> gauge, so start changing her by a couple thousand.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/




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