Loud grinding on start-up
12-20-2006, 08:22 PM
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Re: Loud grinding on start-up
Ditto. Although it's a combination of solenoid and ratchet, now.
Whatever they call it.
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Jon wrote:
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> How about a sticky bendix drive?
Whatever they call it.
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Jon wrote:
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> How about a sticky bendix drive?
12-20-2006, 08:22 PM
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Re: Loud grinding on start-up
Ditto. Although it's a combination of solenoid and ratchet, now.
Whatever they call it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Jon wrote:
>
> How about a sticky bendix drive?
Whatever they call it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jon wrote:
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> How about a sticky bendix drive?
12-20-2006, 08:22 PM
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Re: Loud grinding on start-up
Ditto. Although it's a combination of solenoid and ratchet, now.
Whatever they call it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jon wrote:
>
> How about a sticky bendix drive?
Whatever they call it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jon wrote:
>
> How about a sticky bendix drive?
12-21-2006, 01:03 AM
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Re: Loud grinding on start-up
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:41:15 -0800, Micah wrote:
> 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
5-spd.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
> 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
5-spd.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
12-21-2006, 01:03 AM
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Re: Loud grinding on start-up
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:41:15 -0800, Micah wrote:
> 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
5-spd.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
> 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
5-spd.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
12-21-2006, 01:03 AM
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Re: Loud grinding on start-up
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:41:15 -0800, Micah wrote:
> 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
5-spd.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
> 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
5-spd.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
12-21-2006, 09:55 AM
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Re: Loud grinding on start-up
That sounds like it. Guess I'll start looking for an AX-15. I've
wanted one ever since day 2 of owning my YJ when I found out my
transmission was made by the French.
And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
***-UMED right.
Thanks guys.
Will Honea wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:41:15 -0800, Micah wrote:
>
> > 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> > grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> > it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> > bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> > alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> > had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> > start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> > section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> > with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
>
> My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
> it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
> up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
> Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
> re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
> 5-spd.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
wanted one ever since day 2 of owning my YJ when I found out my
transmission was made by the French.
And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
***-UMED right.
Thanks guys.
Will Honea wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:41:15 -0800, Micah wrote:
>
> > 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> > grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> > it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> > bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> > alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> > had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> > start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> > section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> > with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
>
> My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
> it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
> up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
> Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
> re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
> 5-spd.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
12-21-2006, 09:55 AM
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Re: Loud grinding on start-up
That sounds like it. Guess I'll start looking for an AX-15. I've
wanted one ever since day 2 of owning my YJ when I found out my
transmission was made by the French.
And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
***-UMED right.
Thanks guys.
Will Honea wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:41:15 -0800, Micah wrote:
>
> > 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> > grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> > it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> > bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> > alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> > had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> > start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> > section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> > with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
>
> My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
> it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
> up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
> Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
> re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
> 5-spd.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
wanted one ever since day 2 of owning my YJ when I found out my
transmission was made by the French.
And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
***-UMED right.
Thanks guys.
Will Honea wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:41:15 -0800, Micah wrote:
>
> > 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> > grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> > it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> > bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> > alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> > had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> > start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> > section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> > with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
>
> My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
> it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
> up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
> Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
> re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
> 5-spd.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
12-21-2006, 09:55 AM
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Re: Loud grinding on start-up
That sounds like it. Guess I'll start looking for an AX-15. I've
wanted one ever since day 2 of owning my YJ when I found out my
transmission was made by the French.
And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
***-UMED right.
Thanks guys.
Will Honea wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:41:15 -0800, Micah wrote:
>
> > 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> > grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> > it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> > bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> > alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> > had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> > start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> > section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> > with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
>
> My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
> it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
> up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
> Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
> re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
> 5-spd.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
wanted one ever since day 2 of owning my YJ when I found out my
transmission was made by the French.
And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
***-UMED right.
Thanks guys.
Will Honea wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:41:15 -0800, Micah wrote:
>
> > 258 YJ, Peugeot trans. When I start it cold, I get a loud metallic
> > grinding sound. Rev the engine to 2,000 RPMs for a couple seconds and
> > it goes away. Sounds like it could 'possibly' be coming from the pilot
> > bearing. I replaced my clutch this spring but left the pilot bearing
> > alone because i didn't have a puller and the clutch I had in there only
> > had 20k or so miles on it. Assumed it would still be OK. Anyway, if I
> > start the engine warm, no sound. Looked at the Haynes troubleshooting
> > section, no mention of such a sound. Tried starting it cold in neutral
> > with the clutch engaged with the same results. Thoughts? Thanks.
>
> My BA10 had the same noises. They got progressively louder until I pulled
> it to swap in an AX15. The thrust bearings on the input shaft had given
> up and the noise was the input gear grinding on the slinger washer.
> Needed the input shaft for a clutch alignment tool, didn't bother
> re-assembling the rest before trashing it. I'm no fan of the puny French
> 5-spd.
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
12-21-2006, 10:44 AM
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Re: Loud grinding on start-up
Why are you looking for trans problems? I've re-read your post and
nothing in it suggest the transmission is making a noise... what happens
when you start it out of gear without the clutch depressed? If it has
clutch start then disable it.
I would be looking at the starter, and the fan clutch and work my way in
from there.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
nothing in it suggest the transmission is making a noise... what happens
when you start it out of gear without the clutch depressed? If it has
clutch start then disable it.
I would be looking at the starter, and the fan clutch and work my way in
from there.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
