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Earle Horton 11-24-2007 12:13 AM

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> XS11E wrote:
>> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>>> transmission.

>>
>> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
>> you mean the truck don't you.... I really doubt it'll hurt anything.
>> Bushings wear, etc. You can browse used car lots and see if it's typical
>> of a Toyota with similar miles but I really doubt it's anything that is
>> dangerous as long as it shifts properly.

>
> If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
> dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
> your firewall.
>
> Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission rebuild
> wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs list, etc. as
> the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending on the market.
> Might want to check these folks out... they appear to be geek level toyota
> folks: http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm
>
> Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
> show up on their web site.
>
> As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what the
> heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up, drops oil,
> doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is that a
> transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?
>

Transmission chains are good at installing rebuild kits. A rebuild kit
won't include a standard transmission shifter bushing, ball, pins or
whatever it is that's bad. Like I said, take it apart, don't drop stuff
inside the transmission, take digital pictures, then go to the dealer parts
department and find out what parts they will sell you. Maybe you can find a
manual online or at Autozone. Sometimes Haynes, Chilton's or Motors Manuals
are good. There are Jeep sites with the type of exploded diagrams that you
need; there may be for Toyota. The Jeep AX5 and AX15 are after all Japanese
transmissions. The parts might even be the same.

Cheers,

Earle



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Will Honea 11-24-2007 01:35 AM

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Earle Horton wrote:

>
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:AcednRNJhtde59ranZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> XS11E wrote:
>>> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>>>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>>>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>>>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>>>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>>>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>>>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>>>> transmission.
>>>
>>> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
>>> you mean the truck don't you.... I really doubt it'll hurt anything.
>>> Bushings wear, etc. You can browse used car lots and see if it's
>>> typical of a Toyota with similar miles but I really doubt it's anything
>>> that is dangerous as long as it shifts properly.

>>
>> If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
>> dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
>> your firewall.
>>
>> Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission
>> rebuild
>> wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs list, etc.
>> as the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending on the
>> market. Might want to check these folks out... they appear to be geek
>> level toyota folks: http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm
>>
>> Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
>> show up on their web site.
>>
>> As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what
>> the
>> heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up, drops
>> oil,
>> doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is that a
>> transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?
>>

> Transmission chains are good at installing rebuild kits. A rebuild kit
> won't include a standard transmission shifter bushing, ball, pins or
> whatever it is that's bad. Like I said, take it apart, don't drop stuff
> inside the transmission, take digital pictures, then go to the dealer
> parts
> department and find out what parts they will sell you. Maybe you can find
> a
> manual online or at Autozone. Sometimes Haynes, Chilton's or Motors
> Manuals
> are good. There are Jeep sites with the type of exploded diagrams that
> you
> need; there may be for Toyota. The Jeep AX5 and AX15 are after all
> Japanese
> transmissions. The parts might even be the same.


Good point, Earle. I had forgotten that the AX15 I swapped into the MJ was a
pull from a Toyota pickup. I found that out when I queried the rebuilder
about the vent cap (mine had a solid plug in it) and he told me more than I
ever wanted to know about who used what <g>.

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Will Honea 11-24-2007 01:35 AM

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Earle Horton wrote:

>
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:AcednRNJhtde59ranZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> XS11E wrote:
>>> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>>>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>>>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>>>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>>>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>>>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>>>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>>>> transmission.
>>>
>>> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
>>> you mean the truck don't you.... I really doubt it'll hurt anything.
>>> Bushings wear, etc. You can browse used car lots and see if it's
>>> typical of a Toyota with similar miles but I really doubt it's anything
>>> that is dangerous as long as it shifts properly.

>>
>> If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
>> dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
>> your firewall.
>>
>> Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission
>> rebuild
>> wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs list, etc.
>> as the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending on the
>> market. Might want to check these folks out... they appear to be geek
>> level toyota folks: http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm
>>
>> Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
>> show up on their web site.
>>
>> As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what
>> the
>> heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up, drops
>> oil,
>> doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is that a
>> transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?
>>

> Transmission chains are good at installing rebuild kits. A rebuild kit
> won't include a standard transmission shifter bushing, ball, pins or
> whatever it is that's bad. Like I said, take it apart, don't drop stuff
> inside the transmission, take digital pictures, then go to the dealer
> parts
> department and find out what parts they will sell you. Maybe you can find
> a
> manual online or at Autozone. Sometimes Haynes, Chilton's or Motors
> Manuals
> are good. There are Jeep sites with the type of exploded diagrams that
> you
> need; there may be for Toyota. The Jeep AX5 and AX15 are after all
> Japanese
> transmissions. The parts might even be the same.


Good point, Earle. I had forgotten that the AX15 I swapped into the MJ was a
pull from a Toyota pickup. I found that out when I queried the rebuilder
about the vent cap (mine had a solid plug in it) and he told me more than I
ever wanted to know about who used what <g>.

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Jamie Mello 11-24-2007 11:39 PM

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Well the transmission is really hard to drive if you do not how to
drive it. And that is why I think they said it should not be on the on
the road I think they were being safe then sorry. And there have been
a few times when I went to shift down into 4th from 5th and put in to
2nd (only 2 times) and that maybe why they said that. Thanks Jamie

Jamie Mello 11-24-2007 11:39 PM

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Well the transmission is really hard to drive if you do not how to
drive it. And that is why I think they said it should not be on the on
the road I think they were being safe then sorry. And there have been
a few times when I went to shift down into 4th from 5th and put in to
2nd (only 2 times) and that maybe why they said that. Thanks Jamie

Jamie Mello 11-25-2007 12:21 AM

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Oh and this was not a transmission shop. It was a auto repair shop.
That I bet know very little to nothing about transmissions. And they
said something about the top half of the transmission sheared off. I
think that is a lie. Thanks Jamie

Jamie Mello 11-25-2007 12:21 AM

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Oh and this was not a transmission shop. It was a auto repair shop.
That I bet know very little to nothing about transmissions. And they
said something about the top half of the transmission sheared off. I
think that is a lie. Thanks Jamie

Lon Stowell 11-25-2007 02:54 PM

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Oh and this was not a transmission shop. It was a auto repair shop.
> That I bet know very little to nothing about transmissions. And they
> said something about the top half of the transmission sheared off. I
> think that is a lie. Thanks Jamie


Look in your local yellow pages for transmission shops or aftermarket
toyota truck specialty shops.

Or head for the internet and pick up a new, rebuilt, or used
transmission or a rebuild kit and the special tools you'll need to
rebuild it yourself.

And keep a cell phone or a good set of walking shoes in the truck, as
the worst case things that can happen if it blows is you wear out the
leather on a set of shoes.


Lon Stowell 11-25-2007 02:54 PM

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Oh and this was not a transmission shop. It was a auto repair shop.
> That I bet know very little to nothing about transmissions. And they
> said something about the top half of the transmission sheared off. I
> think that is a lie. Thanks Jamie


Look in your local yellow pages for transmission shops or aftermarket
toyota truck specialty shops.

Or head for the internet and pick up a new, rebuilt, or used
transmission or a rebuild kit and the special tools you'll need to
rebuild it yourself.

And keep a cell phone or a good set of walking shoes in the truck, as
the worst case things that can happen if it blows is you wear out the
leather on a set of shoes.


Earle Horton 11-26-2007 10:20 AM

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:RZadnUjcm6aXTtTanZ2dnUVZ_tDinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Jamie Mello wrote:
> > Oh and this was not a transmission shop. It was a auto repair shop.
> > That I bet know very little to nothing about transmissions. And they
> > said something about the top half of the transmission sheared off. I
> > think that is a lie. Thanks Jamie

>
> Look in your local yellow pages for transmission shops or aftermarket
> toyota truck specialty shops.
>
> Or head for the internet and pick up a new, rebuilt, or used
> transmission or a rebuild kit and the special tools you'll need to
> rebuild it yourself.
>
> And keep a cell phone or a good set of walking shoes in the truck, as
> the worst case things that can happen if it blows is you wear out the
> leather on a set of shoes.
>

Some local "auto repair shops" know a little about transmissions, and
some even know to farm out jobs they can't really handle. In my
experience the yokels Jamie has been talking to probably aren't lying;
they just don't know how to interpret reality properly or how to
communicate what they see. The "top half of the transmission sheared
off" could be a dowel pin sheared off, allowing the shift tower to walk
around a bit. A rebuild kit is not going to address this sort of
problem. Going way out on a limb here, the fix could be cheap, but it
will no doubt involve drilling out dowel pin holes oversize and
installing heli-coils, the sort of thing that takes brains, which are in
sort supply in many areas of rural America. See 99% of the topics in
this news group if you don't believe me on this.

Cheers,

Earle




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