A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my stick
shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop says I need
a new transmission now. And they said to me that it should not be on
the road even. And that doe's not sound right to me. The transmission
works fine it shifts in all the gears fine. It just has a lot of play
in the shifter thats all. Please Help me I do not want to pay 550
dollars at the junkyard for a new transmission. Thanks Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

I think I can also post a video on youtube if I have to, The only
thing I would I have to see if I can find a video cam. From someone (I
do not have one). Thanks Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

I think I can also post a video on youtube if I have to, The only
thing I would I have to see if I can find a video cam. From someone (I
do not have one). Thanks Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jamie Mello wrote:
> I think I can also post a video on youtube if I have to, The only
> thing I would I have to see if I can find a video cam. From someone (I
> do not have one). Thanks Jamie

OK Jamie, why are you asking a bunch of Jeep guys about your Toyota? <G>

Is the shifter internal or external? (I expect it's internal) I see
there is a shift lever bushing listed for those trucks, have you tried
changing that?

Jeff DeWitt

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jamie Mello wrote:
> I think I can also post a video on youtube if I have to, The only
> thing I would I have to see if I can find a video cam. From someone (I
> do not have one). Thanks Jamie

OK Jamie, why are you asking a bunch of Jeep guys about your Toyota? <G>

Is the shifter internal or external? (I expect it's internal) I see
there is a shift lever bushing listed for those trucks, have you tried
changing that?

Jeff DeWitt

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:19:00 -0800 (PST), Jamie Mello
<carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>I think I can also post a video on youtube if I have to, The only
>thing I would I have to see if I can find a video cam. From someone (I
>do not have one). Thanks Jamie

Better yet, find a Toyota group and ask them about your trans.

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:19:00 -0800 (PST), Jamie Mello
<carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>I think I can also post a video on youtube if I have to, The only
>thing I would I have to see if I can find a video cam. From someone (I
>do not have one). Thanks Jamie

Better yet, find a Toyota group and ask them about your trans.

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

I did ask a toyota group and they said a bushing also. And I am not
sure what you mean by is the shifter internal or external?? Thanks
Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

I did ask a toyota group and they said a bushing also. And I am not
sure what you mean by is the shifter internal or external?? Thanks
Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

I am sorry I am so use to asking you guys for help I forgot you are
Jeep guys not toytoa guys. Sorry :( Thanks Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

I am sorry I am so use to asking you guys for help I forgot you are
Jeep guys not toytoa guys. Sorry :( Thanks Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

On Nov 22, 7:02 pm, Jamie Mello <carkey...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I did ask a toyota group and they said a bushing also. And I am not
> sure what you mean by is the shifter internal or external?? Thanks
> Jamie


Jamie, some transmissions have internal shifters, that is if you look
at the transmission you will see the shift lever sticking out of it, I
think most modern transmissions are like that. Other transmissions
have levers on the outside that actually control the gears inside, say
one lever that shifts between 1st and Reverse, and another that shifts
between 2nd and 3rd. There is then a set of rods or cables that
connect those levers to the shifter. That kind of setup is common on
older American cars (the kind I'm most familiar with)... if you see an
old muscle car with a "Hurst" shifter what someone has done is replace
the stock external shifter with an aftermarket one.

The bottom line is if the shifter is external and worn you can
relatively easily replace it, if it's internal the transmission has to
come apart to fix it.

If it were me I'd find out what that bushing is, especially as the
Toyota guys were suggesting the same thing, if there is a chance thats
that problem it should be a lot easier and cheaper to replace that
than a whole transmission!

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

On Nov 22, 7:02 pm, Jamie Mello <carkey...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I did ask a toyota group and they said a bushing also. And I am not
> sure what you mean by is the shifter internal or external?? Thanks
> Jamie


Jamie, some transmissions have internal shifters, that is if you look
at the transmission you will see the shift lever sticking out of it, I
think most modern transmissions are like that. Other transmissions
have levers on the outside that actually control the gears inside, say
one lever that shifts between 1st and Reverse, and another that shifts
between 2nd and 3rd. There is then a set of rods or cables that
connect those levers to the shifter. That kind of setup is common on
older American cars (the kind I'm most familiar with)... if you see an
old muscle car with a "Hurst" shifter what someone has done is replace
the stock external shifter with an aftermarket one.

The bottom line is if the shifter is external and worn you can
relatively easily replace it, if it's internal the transmission has to
come apart to fix it.

If it were me I'd find out what that bushing is, especially as the
Toyota guys were suggesting the same thing, if there is a chance thats
that problem it should be a lot easier and cheaper to replace that
than a whole transmission!

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jamie Mello wrote:
> I am sorry I am so use to asking you guys for help I forgot you are
> Jeep guys not toytoa guys. Sorry :( Thanks Jamie

No problem, it may not be a Jeep question but it IS a vehicle question
and has no mention of goats <G>.

Jeff DeWitt

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jamie Mello wrote:
> I am sorry I am so use to asking you guys for help I forgot you are
> Jeep guys not toytoa guys. Sorry :( Thanks Jamie

No problem, it may not be a Jeep question but it IS a vehicle question
and has no mention of goats <G>.

Jeff DeWitt

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
> transmission.

It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
you mean the truck don't you....

I really doubt it'll hurt anything. Bushings wear, etc. You can
browse used car lots and see if it's typical of a Toyota with similar
miles but I really doubt it's anything that is dangerous as long as it
shifts properly.



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Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
> transmission.

It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
you mean the truck don't you....

I really doubt it'll hurt anything. Bushings wear, etc. You can
browse used car lots and see if it's typical of a Toyota with similar
miles but I really doubt it's anything that is dangerous as long as it
shifts properly.



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Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
> when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie

Jamie,

You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn also.
You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is what,
unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced Toyota
mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or something,
where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new grooves in it, and
replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the labor
was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just broken.

Good luck,

Earle




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Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
> when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie

Jamie,

You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn also.
You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is what,
unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced Toyota
mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or something,
where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new grooves in it, and
replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the labor
was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just broken.

Good luck,

Earle




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Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>
>
> Jamie,
>
> You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
> remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
> the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
> transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
> spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
> end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn also.
> You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is what,
> unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced Toyota
> mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or something,
> where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new grooves in it, and
> replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the labor
> was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just broken.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Earle
>
>
>
>
I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
a good place to start.

Jeff DeWitt

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>
>
> Jamie,
>
> You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
> remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
> the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
> transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
> spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
> end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn also.
> You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is what,
> unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced Toyota
> mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or something,
> where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new grooves in it, and
> replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the labor
> was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just broken.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Earle
>
>
>
>
I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
a good place to start.

Jeff DeWitt

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

XS11E wrote:
> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>> transmission.
>
> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
> you mean the truck don't you....
>
> I really doubt it'll hurt anything. Bushings wear, etc. You can
> browse used car lots and see if it's typical of a Toyota with similar
> miles but I really doubt it's anything that is dangerous as long as it
> shifts properly.

If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
your firewall.

Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission
rebuild wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs
list, etc. as the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending
on the market. Might want to check these folks out... they appear to
be geek level toyota folks:
http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm

Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
show up on their web site.

As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what
the heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up,
drops oil, doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is
that a transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

XS11E wrote:
> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>> transmission.
>
> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
> you mean the truck don't you....
>
> I really doubt it'll hurt anything. Bushings wear, etc. You can
> browse used car lots and see if it's typical of a Toyota with similar
> miles but I really doubt it's anything that is dangerous as long as it
> shifts properly.

If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
your firewall.

Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission
rebuild wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs
list, etc. as the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending
on the market. Might want to check these folks out... they appear to
be geek level toyota folks:
http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm

Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
show up on their web site.

As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what
the heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up,
drops oil, doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is
that a transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jeff DeWitt wrote:

> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>>
>>
>> Jamie,
>>
>> You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
>> remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
>> the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
>> transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
>> spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
>> end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn
>> also. You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is
>> what, unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced
>> Toyota
>> mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or
>> something, where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new
>> grooves in it, and
>> replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the
>> labor
>> was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just
>> broken.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
> Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
> thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
> as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
> a good place to start.

Probably something like the one on the AX shifter - cap that fits on the end
of the rod and rides in the rail slots. I've also seen plastic cups around
the ball on the shifter that would wear out.

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Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jeff DeWitt wrote:

> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>>
>>
>> Jamie,
>>
>> You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
>> remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
>> the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
>> transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
>> spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
>> end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn
>> also. You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is
>> what, unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced
>> Toyota
>> mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or
>> something, where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new
>> grooves in it, and
>> replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the
>> labor
>> was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just
>> broken.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
> Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
> thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
> as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
> a good place to start.

Probably something like the one on the AX shifter - cap that fits on the end
of the rod and rides in the rail slots. I've also seen plastic cups around
the ball on the shifter that would wear out.

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Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Will Honea wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>>>
>>>
>>>Jamie,
>>>
>>>You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
>>>remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
>>>the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
>>>transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
>>>spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
>>>end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn
>>>also. You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is
>>>what, unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced
>>>Toyota
>>>mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or
>>>something, where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new
>>>grooves in it, and
>>>replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the
>>>labor
>>>was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just
>>>broken.
>>>
>>>Good luck,
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
>>Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
>>thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
>>as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
>>a good place to start.
>
>
> Probably something like the one on the AX shifter - cap that fits on the end
> of the rod and rides in the rail slots. I've also seen plastic cups around
> the ball on the shifter that would wear out.
>

That makes sense, and it sure sounds like things would get sloppy if it
were worn out.

Jeff DeWitt

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Will Honea wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>>>
>>>
>>>Jamie,
>>>
>>>You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
>>>remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
>>>the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
>>>transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
>>>spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
>>>end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn
>>>also. You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is
>>>what, unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced
>>>Toyota
>>>mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or
>>>something, where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new
>>>grooves in it, and
>>>replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the
>>>labor
>>>was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just
>>>broken.
>>>
>>>Good luck,
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
>>Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
>>thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
>>as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
>>a good place to start.
>
>
> Probably something like the one on the AX shifter - cap that fits on the end
> of the rod and rides in the rail slots. I've also seen plastic cups around
> the ball on the shifter that would wear out.
>

That makes sense, and it sure sounds like things would get sloppy if it
were worn out.

Jeff DeWitt

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:AcednRNJhtde59ranZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> XS11E wrote:
>> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>>> transmission.
>>
>> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
>> you mean the truck don't you.... I really doubt it'll hurt anything.
>> Bushings wear, etc. You can browse used car lots and see if it's typical
>> of a Toyota with similar miles but I really doubt it's anything that is
>> dangerous as long as it shifts properly.
>
> If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
> dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
> your firewall.
>
> Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission rebuild
> wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs list, etc. as
> the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending on the market.
> Might want to check these folks out... they appear to be geek level toyota
> folks: http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm
>
> Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
> show up on their web site.
>
> As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what the
> heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up, drops oil,
> doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is that a
> transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?
>
Transmission chains are good at installing rebuild kits. A rebuild kit
won't include a standard transmission shifter bushing, ball, pins or
whatever it is that's bad. Like I said, take it apart, don't drop stuff
inside the transmission, take digital pictures, then go to the dealer parts
department and find out what parts they will sell you. Maybe you can find a
manual online or at Autozone. Sometimes Haynes, Chilton's or Motors Manuals
are good. There are Jeep sites with the type of exploded diagrams that you
need; there may be for Toyota. The Jeep AX5 and AX15 are after all Japanese
transmissions. The parts might even be the same.

Cheers,

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Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> XS11E wrote:
>> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>>> transmission.
>>
>> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
>> you mean the truck don't you.... I really doubt it'll hurt anything.
>> Bushings wear, etc. You can browse used car lots and see if it's typical
>> of a Toyota with similar miles but I really doubt it's anything that is
>> dangerous as long as it shifts properly.
>
> If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
> dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
> your firewall.
>
> Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission rebuild
> wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs list, etc. as
> the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending on the market.
> Might want to check these folks out... they appear to be geek level toyota
> folks: http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm
>
> Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
> show up on their web site.
>
> As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what the
> heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up, drops oil,
> doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is that a
> transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?
>
Transmission chains are good at installing rebuild kits. A rebuild kit
won't include a standard transmission shifter bushing, ball, pins or
whatever it is that's bad. Like I said, take it apart, don't drop stuff
inside the transmission, take digital pictures, then go to the dealer parts
department and find out what parts they will sell you. Maybe you can find a
manual online or at Autozone. Sometimes Haynes, Chilton's or Motors Manuals
are good. There are Jeep sites with the type of exploded diagrams that you
need; there may be for Toyota. The Jeep AX5 and AX15 are after all Japanese
transmissions. The parts might even be the same.

Cheers,

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Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Earle Horton wrote:

>
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:AcednRNJhtde59ranZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> XS11E wrote:
>>> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>>>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>>>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>>>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>>>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>>>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>>>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>>>> transmission.
>>>
>>> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
>>> you mean the truck don't you.... I really doubt it'll hurt anything.
>>> Bushings wear, etc. You can browse used car lots and see if it's
>>> typical of a Toyota with similar miles but I really doubt it's anything
>>> that is dangerous as long as it shifts properly.
>>
>> If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
>> dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
>> your firewall.
>>
>> Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission
>> rebuild
>> wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs list, etc.
>> as the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending on the
>> market. Might want to check these folks out... they appear to be geek
>> level toyota folks: http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm
>>
>> Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
>> show up on their web site.
>>
>> As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what
>> the
>> heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up, drops
>> oil,
>> doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is that a
>> transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?
>>
> Transmission chains are good at installing rebuild kits. A rebuild kit
> won't include a standard transmission shifter bushing, ball, pins or
> whatever it is that's bad. Like I said, take it apart, don't drop stuff
> inside the transmission, take digital pictures, then go to the dealer
> parts
> department and find out what parts they will sell you. Maybe you can find
> a
> manual online or at Autozone. Sometimes Haynes, Chilton's or Motors
> Manuals
> are good. There are Jeep sites with the type of exploded diagrams that
> you
> need; there may be for Toyota. The Jeep AX5 and AX15 are after all
> Japanese
> transmissions. The parts might even be the same.

Good point, Earle. I had forgotten that the AX15 I swapped into the MJ was a
pull from a Toyota pickup. I found that out when I queried the rebuilder
about the vent cap (mine had a solid plug in it) and he told me more than I
ever wanted to know about who used what <g>.

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Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Earle Horton wrote:

>
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:AcednRNJhtde59ranZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> XS11E wrote:
>>> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>>>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>>>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>>>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>>>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>>>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>>>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>>>> transmission.
>>>
>>> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
>>> you mean the truck don't you.... I really doubt it'll hurt anything.
>>> Bushings wear, etc. You can browse used car lots and see if it's
>>> typical of a Toyota with similar miles but I really doubt it's anything
>>> that is dangerous as long as it shifts properly.
>>
>> If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
>> dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
>> your firewall.
>>
>> Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission
>> rebuild
>> wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs list, etc.
>> as the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending on the
>> market. Might want to check these folks out... they appear to be geek
>> level toyota folks: http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm
>>
>> Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
>> show up on their web site.
>>
>> As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what
>> the
>> heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up, drops
>> oil,
>> doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is that a
>> transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?
>>
> Transmission chains are good at installing rebuild kits. A rebuild kit
> won't include a standard transmission shifter bushing, ball, pins or
> whatever it is that's bad. Like I said, take it apart, don't drop stuff
> inside the transmission, take digital pictures, then go to the dealer
> parts
> department and find out what parts they will sell you. Maybe you can find
> a
> manual online or at Autozone. Sometimes Haynes, Chilton's or Motors
> Manuals
> are good. There are Jeep sites with the type of exploded diagrams that
> you
> need; there may be for Toyota. The Jeep AX5 and AX15 are after all
> Japanese
> transmissions. The parts might even be the same.

Good point, Earle. I had forgotten that the AX15 I swapped into the MJ was a
pull from a Toyota pickup. I found that out when I queried the rebuilder
about the vent cap (mine had a solid plug in it) and he told me more than I
ever wanted to know about who used what <g>.

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Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Well the transmission is really hard to drive if you do not how to
drive it. And that is why I think they said it should not be on the on
the road I think they were being safe then sorry. And there have been
a few times when I went to shift down into 4th from 5th and put in to
2nd (only 2 times) and that maybe why they said that. Thanks Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Well the transmission is really hard to drive if you do not how to
drive it. And that is why I think they said it should not be on the on
the road I think they were being safe then sorry. And there have been
a few times when I went to shift down into 4th from 5th and put in to
2nd (only 2 times) and that maybe why they said that. Thanks Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Oh and this was not a transmission shop. It was a auto repair shop.
That I bet know very little to nothing about transmissions. And they
said something about the top half of the transmission sheared off. I
think that is a lie. Thanks Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Oh and this was not a transmission shop. It was a auto repair shop.
That I bet know very little to nothing about transmissions. And they
said something about the top half of the transmission sheared off. I
think that is a lie. Thanks Jamie

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jamie Mello wrote:
> Oh and this was not a transmission shop. It was a auto repair shop.
> That I bet know very little to nothing about transmissions. And they
> said something about the top half of the transmission sheared off. I
> think that is a lie. Thanks Jamie

Look in your local yellow pages for transmission shops or aftermarket
toyota truck specialty shops.

Or head for the internet and pick up a new, rebuilt, or used
transmission or a rebuild kit and the special tools you'll need to
rebuild it yourself.

And keep a cell phone or a good set of walking shoes in the truck, as
the worst case things that can happen if it blows is you wear out the
leather on a set of shoes.

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jamie Mello wrote:
> Oh and this was not a transmission shop. It was a auto repair shop.
> That I bet know very little to nothing about transmissions. And they
> said something about the top half of the transmission sheared off. I
> think that is a lie. Thanks Jamie

Look in your local yellow pages for transmission shops or aftermarket
toyota truck specialty shops.

Or head for the internet and pick up a new, rebuilt, or used
transmission or a rebuild kit and the special tools you'll need to
rebuild it yourself.

And keep a cell phone or a good set of walking shoes in the truck, as
the worst case things that can happen if it blows is you wear out the
leather on a set of shoes.

Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Jamie Mello wrote:
> > Oh and this was not a transmission shop. It was a auto repair shop.
> > That I bet know very little to nothing about transmissions. And they
> > said something about the top half of the transmission sheared off. I
> > think that is a lie. Thanks Jamie
>
> Look in your local yellow pages for transmission shops or aftermarket
> toyota truck specialty shops.
>
> Or head for the internet and pick up a new, rebuilt, or used
> transmission or a rebuild kit and the special tools you'll need to
> rebuild it yourself.
>
> And keep a cell phone or a good set of walking shoes in the truck, as
> the worst case things that can happen if it blows is you wear out the
> leather on a set of shoes.
>
Some local "auto repair shops" know a little about transmissions, and
some even know to farm out jobs they can't really handle. In my
experience the yokels Jamie has been talking to probably aren't lying;
they just don't know how to interpret reality properly or how to
communicate what they see. The "top half of the transmission sheared
off" could be a dowel pin sheared off, allowing the shift tower to walk
around a bit. A rebuild kit is not going to address this sort of
problem. Going way out on a limb here, the fix could be cheap, but it
will no doubt involve drilling out dowel pin holes oversize and
installing heli-coils, the sort of thing that takes brains, which are in
sort supply in many areas of rural America. See 99% of the topics in
this news group if you don't believe me on this.

Cheers,

Earle




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