A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
11-22-2007, 09:15 PM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Nov 22, 7:02 pm, Jamie Mello <carkey...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I did ask a toyota group and they said a bushing also. And I am not
> sure what you mean by is the shifter internal or external?? Thanks
> Jamie
Jamie, some transmissions have internal shifters, that is if you look
at the transmission you will see the shift lever sticking out of it, I
think most modern transmissions are like that. Other transmissions
have levers on the outside that actually control the gears inside, say
one lever that shifts between 1st and Reverse, and another that shifts
between 2nd and 3rd. There is then a set of rods or cables that
connect those levers to the shifter. That kind of setup is common on
older American cars (the kind I'm most familiar with)... if you see an
old muscle car with a "Hurst" shifter what someone has done is replace
the stock external shifter with an aftermarket one.
The bottom line is if the shifter is external and worn you can
relatively easily replace it, if it's internal the transmission has to
come apart to fix it.
If it were me I'd find out what that bushing is, especially as the
Toyota guys were suggesting the same thing, if there is a chance thats
that problem it should be a lot easier and cheaper to replace that
than a whole transmission!
> I did ask a toyota group and they said a bushing also. And I am not
> sure what you mean by is the shifter internal or external?? Thanks
> Jamie
Jamie, some transmissions have internal shifters, that is if you look
at the transmission you will see the shift lever sticking out of it, I
think most modern transmissions are like that. Other transmissions
have levers on the outside that actually control the gears inside, say
one lever that shifts between 1st and Reverse, and another that shifts
between 2nd and 3rd. There is then a set of rods or cables that
connect those levers to the shifter. That kind of setup is common on
older American cars (the kind I'm most familiar with)... if you see an
old muscle car with a "Hurst" shifter what someone has done is replace
the stock external shifter with an aftermarket one.
The bottom line is if the shifter is external and worn you can
relatively easily replace it, if it's internal the transmission has to
come apart to fix it.
If it were me I'd find out what that bushing is, especially as the
Toyota guys were suggesting the same thing, if there is a chance thats
that problem it should be a lot easier and cheaper to replace that
than a whole transmission!
11-22-2007, 09:15 PM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Nov 22, 7:02 pm, Jamie Mello <carkey...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I did ask a toyota group and they said a bushing also. And I am not
> sure what you mean by is the shifter internal or external?? Thanks
> Jamie
Jamie, some transmissions have internal shifters, that is if you look
at the transmission you will see the shift lever sticking out of it, I
think most modern transmissions are like that. Other transmissions
have levers on the outside that actually control the gears inside, say
one lever that shifts between 1st and Reverse, and another that shifts
between 2nd and 3rd. There is then a set of rods or cables that
connect those levers to the shifter. That kind of setup is common on
older American cars (the kind I'm most familiar with)... if you see an
old muscle car with a "Hurst" shifter what someone has done is replace
the stock external shifter with an aftermarket one.
The bottom line is if the shifter is external and worn you can
relatively easily replace it, if it's internal the transmission has to
come apart to fix it.
If it were me I'd find out what that bushing is, especially as the
Toyota guys were suggesting the same thing, if there is a chance thats
that problem it should be a lot easier and cheaper to replace that
than a whole transmission!
> I did ask a toyota group and they said a bushing also. And I am not
> sure what you mean by is the shifter internal or external?? Thanks
> Jamie
Jamie, some transmissions have internal shifters, that is if you look
at the transmission you will see the shift lever sticking out of it, I
think most modern transmissions are like that. Other transmissions
have levers on the outside that actually control the gears inside, say
one lever that shifts between 1st and Reverse, and another that shifts
between 2nd and 3rd. There is then a set of rods or cables that
connect those levers to the shifter. That kind of setup is common on
older American cars (the kind I'm most familiar with)... if you see an
old muscle car with a "Hurst" shifter what someone has done is replace
the stock external shifter with an aftermarket one.
The bottom line is if the shifter is external and worn you can
relatively easily replace it, if it's internal the transmission has to
come apart to fix it.
If it were me I'd find out what that bushing is, especially as the
Toyota guys were suggesting the same thing, if there is a chance thats
that problem it should be a lot easier and cheaper to replace that
than a whole transmission!
11-22-2007, 09:33 PM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jamie Mello wrote:
> I am sorry I am so use to asking you guys for help I forgot you are
> Jeep guys not toytoa guys. Sorry :( Thanks Jamie
No problem, it may not be a Jeep question but it IS a vehicle question
and has no mention of goats <G>.
Jeff DeWitt
> I am sorry I am so use to asking you guys for help I forgot you are
> Jeep guys not toytoa guys. Sorry :( Thanks Jamie
No problem, it may not be a Jeep question but it IS a vehicle question
and has no mention of goats <G>.
Jeff DeWitt
11-22-2007, 09:33 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jamie Mello wrote:
> I am sorry I am so use to asking you guys for help I forgot you are
> Jeep guys not toytoa guys. Sorry :( Thanks Jamie
No problem, it may not be a Jeep question but it IS a vehicle question
and has no mention of goats <G>.
Jeff DeWitt
> I am sorry I am so use to asking you guys for help I forgot you are
> Jeep guys not toytoa guys. Sorry :( Thanks Jamie
No problem, it may not be a Jeep question but it IS a vehicle question
and has no mention of goats <G>.
Jeff DeWitt
11-23-2007, 12:04 AM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
> transmission.
It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
you mean the truck don't you....
I really doubt it'll hurt anything. Bushings wear, etc. You can
browse used car lots and see if it's typical of a Toyota with similar
miles but I really doubt it's anything that is dangerous as long as it
shifts properly.
--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org
> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
> transmission.
It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
you mean the truck don't you....
I really doubt it'll hurt anything. Bushings wear, etc. You can
browse used car lots and see if it's typical of a Toyota with similar
miles but I really doubt it's anything that is dangerous as long as it
shifts properly.
--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org
11-23-2007, 12:04 AM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
> transmission.
It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
you mean the truck don't you....
I really doubt it'll hurt anything. Bushings wear, etc. You can
browse used car lots and see if it's typical of a Toyota with similar
miles but I really doubt it's anything that is dangerous as long as it
shifts properly.
--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org
> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
> transmission.
It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
you mean the truck don't you....
I really doubt it'll hurt anything. Bushings wear, etc. You can
browse used car lots and see if it's typical of a Toyota with similar
miles but I really doubt it's anything that is dangerous as long as it
shifts properly.
--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org
11-23-2007, 07:16 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: A lot of play in my stick shift Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
> when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
Jamie,
You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn also.
You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is what,
unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced Toyota
mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or something,
where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new grooves in it, and
replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the labor
was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just broken.
Good luck,
Earle
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
> when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
Jamie,
You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn also.
You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is what,
unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced Toyota
mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or something,
where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new grooves in it, and
replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the labor
was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just broken.
Good luck,
Earle
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
