Losing Coolant and dropping oil pressure gauge
12-21-2006, 10:25 AM
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Re: Losing Coolant and dropping oil pressure gauge
Bummer....
They want 'way' too much labor for the installation by the way.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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tk wrote:
>
> Back from the dealer, they say I have a cracked head and the crack is
> visible from the oil filler hole in the valve cover. The service
> advisor said that they have seen these before in a range of motors that
> my year falls in. This is where the coolant is going and that I am
> burning it he says.
>
> He also ran a mechanical oil pressure gauge to the sending unit and the
> engine is 9 psi at idle which he thinks is below normal and that there
> is bearing damage.
>
> He is recommending a new long block at $3000 plus installation ($1500),
> he also mentioned that they could find and install a used one as well
> for around a $1000, installed for $2500
>
> Not to mention the rear end needs an overhaul with new bearings as
> metal is coming out in the oil.
>
> Nice xmas present.... thoughts anyone?
>
> Tom
>
> billy ray wrote:
> > Not only does the engine have to be at full temp and pressurized but at temp
> > long enough to get the hoses fully softened.
> >
> > Ed had a tiny little split hidden by the radiator clamp. Turns out the hoses
> > were factory from '96. It is lucky he didn't have to walk home...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4586BB80.2C5D5D18@sympatico.ca...
> > >I also had one of those recently. Drove me nuts until I noticed my
> > > battery was covered in coolant. Same deal a mini pin hole that would
> > > only open up at highway speeds when it was really hot.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > c wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You might have one of those mysterious leaks that only happens when the
> > >> vehicle is totally warmed up. I have a Chevy truck a while back that was
> > >> losing coolant. I knew it was a leak because I would see a puddle of
> > >> coolant
> > >> on the ground once in a while. A system pressure test showed no leaks. My
> > >> friend eventually found the leak. (He has a repair shop that is based on
> > >> AC
> > >> and radiator repair) The way he eventually found the problem was to
> > >> pressurize the system with a pressure tester and let the truck run. If I
> > >> recall, he said it took about 90 minutes, but eventually a small pinhole
> > >> in
> > >> the upper hose started spewing coolant. The thing absolutely would not
> > >> leak
> > >> until it was at full operating temperature.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> <realtreebob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1166439689.392296.265190@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I have all the same symtoms on my 2000 Grand Cherokee 4,0 Ltd.
> > >> >
> > >> > I know everything points to a head gasket but its twice the price to do
> > >> > here in the UK.
> > >> > Jeep have had my car for 2 days and they say it is NOT the head gasket.
> > >> >
> > >> > There is no microscopic parts per million of oil in the water or water
> > >> > in the oil
> > >> > but I still get through a litre in 40 to 80 miles with no leaks or loss
> > >> > of power.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bob
> > >> >
They want 'way' too much labor for the installation by the way.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
tk wrote:
>
> Back from the dealer, they say I have a cracked head and the crack is
> visible from the oil filler hole in the valve cover. The service
> advisor said that they have seen these before in a range of motors that
> my year falls in. This is where the coolant is going and that I am
> burning it he says.
>
> He also ran a mechanical oil pressure gauge to the sending unit and the
> engine is 9 psi at idle which he thinks is below normal and that there
> is bearing damage.
>
> He is recommending a new long block at $3000 plus installation ($1500),
> he also mentioned that they could find and install a used one as well
> for around a $1000, installed for $2500
>
> Not to mention the rear end needs an overhaul with new bearings as
> metal is coming out in the oil.
>
> Nice xmas present.... thoughts anyone?
>
> Tom
>
> billy ray wrote:
> > Not only does the engine have to be at full temp and pressurized but at temp
> > long enough to get the hoses fully softened.
> >
> > Ed had a tiny little split hidden by the radiator clamp. Turns out the hoses
> > were factory from '96. It is lucky he didn't have to walk home...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4586BB80.2C5D5D18@sympatico.ca...
> > >I also had one of those recently. Drove me nuts until I noticed my
> > > battery was covered in coolant. Same deal a mini pin hole that would
> > > only open up at highway speeds when it was really hot.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > c wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You might have one of those mysterious leaks that only happens when the
> > >> vehicle is totally warmed up. I have a Chevy truck a while back that was
> > >> losing coolant. I knew it was a leak because I would see a puddle of
> > >> coolant
> > >> on the ground once in a while. A system pressure test showed no leaks. My
> > >> friend eventually found the leak. (He has a repair shop that is based on
> > >> AC
> > >> and radiator repair) The way he eventually found the problem was to
> > >> pressurize the system with a pressure tester and let the truck run. If I
> > >> recall, he said it took about 90 minutes, but eventually a small pinhole
> > >> in
> > >> the upper hose started spewing coolant. The thing absolutely would not
> > >> leak
> > >> until it was at full operating temperature.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> <realtreebob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1166439689.392296.265190@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I have all the same symtoms on my 2000 Grand Cherokee 4,0 Ltd.
> > >> >
> > >> > I know everything points to a head gasket but its twice the price to do
> > >> > here in the UK.
> > >> > Jeep have had my car for 2 days and they say it is NOT the head gasket.
> > >> >
> > >> > There is no microscopic parts per million of oil in the water or water
> > >> > in the oil
> > >> > but I still get through a litre in 40 to 80 miles with no leaks or loss
> > >> > of power.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bob
> > >> >
12-21-2006, 10:25 AM
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Re: Losing Coolant and dropping oil pressure gauge
Bummer....
They want 'way' too much labor for the installation by the way.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
tk wrote:
>
> Back from the dealer, they say I have a cracked head and the crack is
> visible from the oil filler hole in the valve cover. The service
> advisor said that they have seen these before in a range of motors that
> my year falls in. This is where the coolant is going and that I am
> burning it he says.
>
> He also ran a mechanical oil pressure gauge to the sending unit and the
> engine is 9 psi at idle which he thinks is below normal and that there
> is bearing damage.
>
> He is recommending a new long block at $3000 plus installation ($1500),
> he also mentioned that they could find and install a used one as well
> for around a $1000, installed for $2500
>
> Not to mention the rear end needs an overhaul with new bearings as
> metal is coming out in the oil.
>
> Nice xmas present.... thoughts anyone?
>
> Tom
>
> billy ray wrote:
> > Not only does the engine have to be at full temp and pressurized but at temp
> > long enough to get the hoses fully softened.
> >
> > Ed had a tiny little split hidden by the radiator clamp. Turns out the hoses
> > were factory from '96. It is lucky he didn't have to walk home...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4586BB80.2C5D5D18@sympatico.ca...
> > >I also had one of those recently. Drove me nuts until I noticed my
> > > battery was covered in coolant. Same deal a mini pin hole that would
> > > only open up at highway speeds when it was really hot.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > c wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You might have one of those mysterious leaks that only happens when the
> > >> vehicle is totally warmed up. I have a Chevy truck a while back that was
> > >> losing coolant. I knew it was a leak because I would see a puddle of
> > >> coolant
> > >> on the ground once in a while. A system pressure test showed no leaks. My
> > >> friend eventually found the leak. (He has a repair shop that is based on
> > >> AC
> > >> and radiator repair) The way he eventually found the problem was to
> > >> pressurize the system with a pressure tester and let the truck run. If I
> > >> recall, he said it took about 90 minutes, but eventually a small pinhole
> > >> in
> > >> the upper hose started spewing coolant. The thing absolutely would not
> > >> leak
> > >> until it was at full operating temperature.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> <realtreebob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1166439689.392296.265190@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I have all the same symtoms on my 2000 Grand Cherokee 4,0 Ltd.
> > >> >
> > >> > I know everything points to a head gasket but its twice the price to do
> > >> > here in the UK.
> > >> > Jeep have had my car for 2 days and they say it is NOT the head gasket.
> > >> >
> > >> > There is no microscopic parts per million of oil in the water or water
> > >> > in the oil
> > >> > but I still get through a litre in 40 to 80 miles with no leaks or loss
> > >> > of power.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bob
> > >> >
They want 'way' too much labor for the installation by the way.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
tk wrote:
>
> Back from the dealer, they say I have a cracked head and the crack is
> visible from the oil filler hole in the valve cover. The service
> advisor said that they have seen these before in a range of motors that
> my year falls in. This is where the coolant is going and that I am
> burning it he says.
>
> He also ran a mechanical oil pressure gauge to the sending unit and the
> engine is 9 psi at idle which he thinks is below normal and that there
> is bearing damage.
>
> He is recommending a new long block at $3000 plus installation ($1500),
> he also mentioned that they could find and install a used one as well
> for around a $1000, installed for $2500
>
> Not to mention the rear end needs an overhaul with new bearings as
> metal is coming out in the oil.
>
> Nice xmas present.... thoughts anyone?
>
> Tom
>
> billy ray wrote:
> > Not only does the engine have to be at full temp and pressurized but at temp
> > long enough to get the hoses fully softened.
> >
> > Ed had a tiny little split hidden by the radiator clamp. Turns out the hoses
> > were factory from '96. It is lucky he didn't have to walk home...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4586BB80.2C5D5D18@sympatico.ca...
> > >I also had one of those recently. Drove me nuts until I noticed my
> > > battery was covered in coolant. Same deal a mini pin hole that would
> > > only open up at highway speeds when it was really hot.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > c wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You might have one of those mysterious leaks that only happens when the
> > >> vehicle is totally warmed up. I have a Chevy truck a while back that was
> > >> losing coolant. I knew it was a leak because I would see a puddle of
> > >> coolant
> > >> on the ground once in a while. A system pressure test showed no leaks. My
> > >> friend eventually found the leak. (He has a repair shop that is based on
> > >> AC
> > >> and radiator repair) The way he eventually found the problem was to
> > >> pressurize the system with a pressure tester and let the truck run. If I
> > >> recall, he said it took about 90 minutes, but eventually a small pinhole
> > >> in
> > >> the upper hose started spewing coolant. The thing absolutely would not
> > >> leak
> > >> until it was at full operating temperature.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> <realtreebob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1166439689.392296.265190@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I have all the same symtoms on my 2000 Grand Cherokee 4,0 Ltd.
> > >> >
> > >> > I know everything points to a head gasket but its twice the price to do
> > >> > here in the UK.
> > >> > Jeep have had my car for 2 days and they say it is NOT the head gasket.
> > >> >
> > >> > There is no microscopic parts per million of oil in the water or water
> > >> > in the oil
> > >> > but I still get through a litre in 40 to 80 miles with no leaks or loss
> > >> > of power.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bob
> > >> >
12-21-2006, 10:25 AM
#73
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Re: Losing Coolant and dropping oil pressure gauge
Bummer....
They want 'way' too much labor for the installation by the way.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
tk wrote:
>
> Back from the dealer, they say I have a cracked head and the crack is
> visible from the oil filler hole in the valve cover. The service
> advisor said that they have seen these before in a range of motors that
> my year falls in. This is where the coolant is going and that I am
> burning it he says.
>
> He also ran a mechanical oil pressure gauge to the sending unit and the
> engine is 9 psi at idle which he thinks is below normal and that there
> is bearing damage.
>
> He is recommending a new long block at $3000 plus installation ($1500),
> he also mentioned that they could find and install a used one as well
> for around a $1000, installed for $2500
>
> Not to mention the rear end needs an overhaul with new bearings as
> metal is coming out in the oil.
>
> Nice xmas present.... thoughts anyone?
>
> Tom
>
> billy ray wrote:
> > Not only does the engine have to be at full temp and pressurized but at temp
> > long enough to get the hoses fully softened.
> >
> > Ed had a tiny little split hidden by the radiator clamp. Turns out the hoses
> > were factory from '96. It is lucky he didn't have to walk home...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4586BB80.2C5D5D18@sympatico.ca...
> > >I also had one of those recently. Drove me nuts until I noticed my
> > > battery was covered in coolant. Same deal a mini pin hole that would
> > > only open up at highway speeds when it was really hot.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > c wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You might have one of those mysterious leaks that only happens when the
> > >> vehicle is totally warmed up. I have a Chevy truck a while back that was
> > >> losing coolant. I knew it was a leak because I would see a puddle of
> > >> coolant
> > >> on the ground once in a while. A system pressure test showed no leaks. My
> > >> friend eventually found the leak. (He has a repair shop that is based on
> > >> AC
> > >> and radiator repair) The way he eventually found the problem was to
> > >> pressurize the system with a pressure tester and let the truck run. If I
> > >> recall, he said it took about 90 minutes, but eventually a small pinhole
> > >> in
> > >> the upper hose started spewing coolant. The thing absolutely would not
> > >> leak
> > >> until it was at full operating temperature.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> <realtreebob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1166439689.392296.265190@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I have all the same symtoms on my 2000 Grand Cherokee 4,0 Ltd.
> > >> >
> > >> > I know everything points to a head gasket but its twice the price to do
> > >> > here in the UK.
> > >> > Jeep have had my car for 2 days and they say it is NOT the head gasket.
> > >> >
> > >> > There is no microscopic parts per million of oil in the water or water
> > >> > in the oil
> > >> > but I still get through a litre in 40 to 80 miles with no leaks or loss
> > >> > of power.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bob
> > >> >
They want 'way' too much labor for the installation by the way.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
tk wrote:
>
> Back from the dealer, they say I have a cracked head and the crack is
> visible from the oil filler hole in the valve cover. The service
> advisor said that they have seen these before in a range of motors that
> my year falls in. This is where the coolant is going and that I am
> burning it he says.
>
> He also ran a mechanical oil pressure gauge to the sending unit and the
> engine is 9 psi at idle which he thinks is below normal and that there
> is bearing damage.
>
> He is recommending a new long block at $3000 plus installation ($1500),
> he also mentioned that they could find and install a used one as well
> for around a $1000, installed for $2500
>
> Not to mention the rear end needs an overhaul with new bearings as
> metal is coming out in the oil.
>
> Nice xmas present.... thoughts anyone?
>
> Tom
>
> billy ray wrote:
> > Not only does the engine have to be at full temp and pressurized but at temp
> > long enough to get the hoses fully softened.
> >
> > Ed had a tiny little split hidden by the radiator clamp. Turns out the hoses
> > were factory from '96. It is lucky he didn't have to walk home...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4586BB80.2C5D5D18@sympatico.ca...
> > >I also had one of those recently. Drove me nuts until I noticed my
> > > battery was covered in coolant. Same deal a mini pin hole that would
> > > only open up at highway speeds when it was really hot.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > c wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You might have one of those mysterious leaks that only happens when the
> > >> vehicle is totally warmed up. I have a Chevy truck a while back that was
> > >> losing coolant. I knew it was a leak because I would see a puddle of
> > >> coolant
> > >> on the ground once in a while. A system pressure test showed no leaks. My
> > >> friend eventually found the leak. (He has a repair shop that is based on
> > >> AC
> > >> and radiator repair) The way he eventually found the problem was to
> > >> pressurize the system with a pressure tester and let the truck run. If I
> > >> recall, he said it took about 90 minutes, but eventually a small pinhole
> > >> in
> > >> the upper hose started spewing coolant. The thing absolutely would not
> > >> leak
> > >> until it was at full operating temperature.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> <realtreebob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1166439689.392296.265190@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I have all the same symtoms on my 2000 Grand Cherokee 4,0 Ltd.
> > >> >
> > >> > I know everything points to a head gasket but its twice the price to do
> > >> > here in the UK.
> > >> > Jeep have had my car for 2 days and they say it is NOT the head gasket.
> > >> >
> > >> > There is no microscopic parts per million of oil in the water or water
> > >> > in the oil
> > >> > but I still get through a litre in 40 to 80 miles with no leaks or loss
> > >> > of power.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bob
> > >> >
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