Looking for a Grand Cherokee
07-16-2007, 09:20 PM
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Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:39:21 +0000, Dean wrote:
>Transfer cases options and any to avoid?
I've got the full-time capable NP242/NV242. It gives you full-time 4wd,
part-time (offroad) 4wd-high, part-time 4wd-low, and plain old 2wd, along
with a true neutral for towing. Also available on the ZJs was a standard
part-time (same as above but with no full-time 4wd) which is probably
more reliable than what I have. Later models had an all-wheel-drive
option that selectively sent power to any wheel that needed it, and the
newest GCs (WK series) only have this option or standard 2wd IIRC.
BTW, don't be scared off of the NP242 just because I'm having to replace
mine. The dumbass who owned it before me never did any maintenance and
now I'm suffering the consequences. You MUST do the 36,000 tranny and
transfer case maintenance religiously or you will lose one or both within
100k miles, much sooner if you do any offroading at all. Change the
fluids, and on the tranny, change the filter and adjust the bands if
needed.
>How does the Grand do in accidents?
Thankfully I can't answer this one firsthand, though from what I've seen
they fare well for their class of vehicle. They're quite the tank.
Not to dissuade you from the GCs, but I sometimes wish I'd saved a few
thousand bucks and bought that '90 XJ Cherokee Sport I had looked at
first. The guy scared me off the deal though because he absolutely
refused to let me drive it, even so much as down his driveway and back.
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it if I can't test drive it. However, I've
spent close to $2500 in repairs (mostly due to the previous owner's
negligence) on the Grand when I might have been in for about half that on
the XJ I looked at, if any at all (I still think the guy was just kooky
and not sneaky). Oh well, hindsight and all. Anyways, good luck to you.
Morgan
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>Transfer cases options and any to avoid?
I've got the full-time capable NP242/NV242. It gives you full-time 4wd,
part-time (offroad) 4wd-high, part-time 4wd-low, and plain old 2wd, along
with a true neutral for towing. Also available on the ZJs was a standard
part-time (same as above but with no full-time 4wd) which is probably
more reliable than what I have. Later models had an all-wheel-drive
option that selectively sent power to any wheel that needed it, and the
newest GCs (WK series) only have this option or standard 2wd IIRC.
BTW, don't be scared off of the NP242 just because I'm having to replace
mine. The dumbass who owned it before me never did any maintenance and
now I'm suffering the consequences. You MUST do the 36,000 tranny and
transfer case maintenance religiously or you will lose one or both within
100k miles, much sooner if you do any offroading at all. Change the
fluids, and on the tranny, change the filter and adjust the bands if
needed.
>How does the Grand do in accidents?
Thankfully I can't answer this one firsthand, though from what I've seen
they fare well for their class of vehicle. They're quite the tank.
Not to dissuade you from the GCs, but I sometimes wish I'd saved a few
thousand bucks and bought that '90 XJ Cherokee Sport I had looked at
first. The guy scared me off the deal though because he absolutely
refused to let me drive it, even so much as down his driveway and back.
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it if I can't test drive it. However, I've
spent close to $2500 in repairs (mostly due to the previous owner's
negligence) on the Grand when I might have been in for about half that on
the XJ I looked at, if any at all (I still think the guy was just kooky
and not sneaky). Oh well, hindsight and all. Anyways, good luck to you.
Morgan
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07-16-2007, 09:20 PM
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Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:39:21 +0000, Dean wrote:
>Transfer cases options and any to avoid?
I've got the full-time capable NP242/NV242. It gives you full-time 4wd,
part-time (offroad) 4wd-high, part-time 4wd-low, and plain old 2wd, along
with a true neutral for towing. Also available on the ZJs was a standard
part-time (same as above but with no full-time 4wd) which is probably
more reliable than what I have. Later models had an all-wheel-drive
option that selectively sent power to any wheel that needed it, and the
newest GCs (WK series) only have this option or standard 2wd IIRC.
BTW, don't be scared off of the NP242 just because I'm having to replace
mine. The dumbass who owned it before me never did any maintenance and
now I'm suffering the consequences. You MUST do the 36,000 tranny and
transfer case maintenance religiously or you will lose one or both within
100k miles, much sooner if you do any offroading at all. Change the
fluids, and on the tranny, change the filter and adjust the bands if
needed.
>How does the Grand do in accidents?
Thankfully I can't answer this one firsthand, though from what I've seen
they fare well for their class of vehicle. They're quite the tank.
Not to dissuade you from the GCs, but I sometimes wish I'd saved a few
thousand bucks and bought that '90 XJ Cherokee Sport I had looked at
first. The guy scared me off the deal though because he absolutely
refused to let me drive it, even so much as down his driveway and back.
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it if I can't test drive it. However, I've
spent close to $2500 in repairs (mostly due to the previous owner's
negligence) on the Grand when I might have been in for about half that on
the XJ I looked at, if any at all (I still think the guy was just kooky
and not sneaky). Oh well, hindsight and all. Anyways, good luck to you.
Morgan
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>Transfer cases options and any to avoid?
I've got the full-time capable NP242/NV242. It gives you full-time 4wd,
part-time (offroad) 4wd-high, part-time 4wd-low, and plain old 2wd, along
with a true neutral for towing. Also available on the ZJs was a standard
part-time (same as above but with no full-time 4wd) which is probably
more reliable than what I have. Later models had an all-wheel-drive
option that selectively sent power to any wheel that needed it, and the
newest GCs (WK series) only have this option or standard 2wd IIRC.
BTW, don't be scared off of the NP242 just because I'm having to replace
mine. The dumbass who owned it before me never did any maintenance and
now I'm suffering the consequences. You MUST do the 36,000 tranny and
transfer case maintenance religiously or you will lose one or both within
100k miles, much sooner if you do any offroading at all. Change the
fluids, and on the tranny, change the filter and adjust the bands if
needed.
>How does the Grand do in accidents?
Thankfully I can't answer this one firsthand, though from what I've seen
they fare well for their class of vehicle. They're quite the tank.
Not to dissuade you from the GCs, but I sometimes wish I'd saved a few
thousand bucks and bought that '90 XJ Cherokee Sport I had looked at
first. The guy scared me off the deal though because he absolutely
refused to let me drive it, even so much as down his driveway and back.
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it if I can't test drive it. However, I've
spent close to $2500 in repairs (mostly due to the previous owner's
negligence) on the Grand when I might have been in for about half that on
the XJ I looked at, if any at all (I still think the guy was just kooky
and not sneaky). Oh well, hindsight and all. Anyways, good luck to you.
Morgan
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07-16-2007, 09:20 PM
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Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:39:21 +0000, Dean wrote:
>Transfer cases options and any to avoid?
I've got the full-time capable NP242/NV242. It gives you full-time 4wd,
part-time (offroad) 4wd-high, part-time 4wd-low, and plain old 2wd, along
with a true neutral for towing. Also available on the ZJs was a standard
part-time (same as above but with no full-time 4wd) which is probably
more reliable than what I have. Later models had an all-wheel-drive
option that selectively sent power to any wheel that needed it, and the
newest GCs (WK series) only have this option or standard 2wd IIRC.
BTW, don't be scared off of the NP242 just because I'm having to replace
mine. The dumbass who owned it before me never did any maintenance and
now I'm suffering the consequences. You MUST do the 36,000 tranny and
transfer case maintenance religiously or you will lose one or both within
100k miles, much sooner if you do any offroading at all. Change the
fluids, and on the tranny, change the filter and adjust the bands if
needed.
>How does the Grand do in accidents?
Thankfully I can't answer this one firsthand, though from what I've seen
they fare well for their class of vehicle. They're quite the tank.
Not to dissuade you from the GCs, but I sometimes wish I'd saved a few
thousand bucks and bought that '90 XJ Cherokee Sport I had looked at
first. The guy scared me off the deal though because he absolutely
refused to let me drive it, even so much as down his driveway and back.
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it if I can't test drive it. However, I've
spent close to $2500 in repairs (mostly due to the previous owner's
negligence) on the Grand when I might have been in for about half that on
the XJ I looked at, if any at all (I still think the guy was just kooky
and not sneaky). Oh well, hindsight and all. Anyways, good luck to you.
Morgan
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>Transfer cases options and any to avoid?
I've got the full-time capable NP242/NV242. It gives you full-time 4wd,
part-time (offroad) 4wd-high, part-time 4wd-low, and plain old 2wd, along
with a true neutral for towing. Also available on the ZJs was a standard
part-time (same as above but with no full-time 4wd) which is probably
more reliable than what I have. Later models had an all-wheel-drive
option that selectively sent power to any wheel that needed it, and the
newest GCs (WK series) only have this option or standard 2wd IIRC.
BTW, don't be scared off of the NP242 just because I'm having to replace
mine. The dumbass who owned it before me never did any maintenance and
now I'm suffering the consequences. You MUST do the 36,000 tranny and
transfer case maintenance religiously or you will lose one or both within
100k miles, much sooner if you do any offroading at all. Change the
fluids, and on the tranny, change the filter and adjust the bands if
needed.
>How does the Grand do in accidents?
Thankfully I can't answer this one firsthand, though from what I've seen
they fare well for their class of vehicle. They're quite the tank.
Not to dissuade you from the GCs, but I sometimes wish I'd saved a few
thousand bucks and bought that '90 XJ Cherokee Sport I had looked at
first. The guy scared me off the deal though because he absolutely
refused to let me drive it, even so much as down his driveway and back.
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it if I can't test drive it. However, I've
spent close to $2500 in repairs (mostly due to the previous owner's
negligence) on the Grand when I might have been in for about half that on
the XJ I looked at, if any at all (I still think the guy was just kooky
and not sneaky). Oh well, hindsight and all. Anyways, good luck to you.
Morgan
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07-16-2007, 09:32 PM
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Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
Argh, usenet ate the first part of my post. Here's what got left out:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:39:21 +0000, Dean wrote:
>
>Which years should I look for/avoid?
I've heard bad things about the WJs ('99-'04). I know a few people with
them and for the most part they are less reliable than the older and
newer generations. Then again, my '96 has given me its fair share of
problems.
>Gas mileage, how bad is it?
I get 20-22mpg highway, about 18mpg city with my 4.0L. I've heard here
and elsewhere that the V8 is not much worse, so go for power over mileage
if you've got the money.
>Is the gas mileage for the 6 better than the V8?
See above. :)
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> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:39:21 +0000, Dean wrote:
>
>Which years should I look for/avoid?
I've heard bad things about the WJs ('99-'04). I know a few people with
them and for the most part they are less reliable than the older and
newer generations. Then again, my '96 has given me its fair share of
problems.
>Gas mileage, how bad is it?
I get 20-22mpg highway, about 18mpg city with my 4.0L. I've heard here
and elsewhere that the V8 is not much worse, so go for power over mileage
if you've got the money.
>Is the gas mileage for the 6 better than the V8?
See above. :)
Sorry for the split post; I'm still learning this new usenet client.
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07-16-2007, 09:32 PM
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Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
Argh, usenet ate the first part of my post. Here's what got left out:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:39:21 +0000, Dean wrote:
>
>Which years should I look for/avoid?
I've heard bad things about the WJs ('99-'04). I know a few people with
them and for the most part they are less reliable than the older and
newer generations. Then again, my '96 has given me its fair share of
problems.
>Gas mileage, how bad is it?
I get 20-22mpg highway, about 18mpg city with my 4.0L. I've heard here
and elsewhere that the V8 is not much worse, so go for power over mileage
if you've got the money.
>Is the gas mileage for the 6 better than the V8?
See above. :)
Sorry for the split post; I'm still learning this new usenet client.
Morgan
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> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:39:21 +0000, Dean wrote:
>
>Which years should I look for/avoid?
I've heard bad things about the WJs ('99-'04). I know a few people with
them and for the most part they are less reliable than the older and
newer generations. Then again, my '96 has given me its fair share of
problems.
>Gas mileage, how bad is it?
I get 20-22mpg highway, about 18mpg city with my 4.0L. I've heard here
and elsewhere that the V8 is not much worse, so go for power over mileage
if you've got the money.
>Is the gas mileage for the 6 better than the V8?
See above. :)
Sorry for the split post; I'm still learning this new usenet client.
Morgan
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07-16-2007, 09:32 PM
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Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
Argh, usenet ate the first part of my post. Here's what got left out:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:39:21 +0000, Dean wrote:
>
>Which years should I look for/avoid?
I've heard bad things about the WJs ('99-'04). I know a few people with
them and for the most part they are less reliable than the older and
newer generations. Then again, my '96 has given me its fair share of
problems.
>Gas mileage, how bad is it?
I get 20-22mpg highway, about 18mpg city with my 4.0L. I've heard here
and elsewhere that the V8 is not much worse, so go for power over mileage
if you've got the money.
>Is the gas mileage for the 6 better than the V8?
See above. :)
Sorry for the split post; I'm still learning this new usenet client.
Morgan
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> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:39:21 +0000, Dean wrote:
>
>Which years should I look for/avoid?
I've heard bad things about the WJs ('99-'04). I know a few people with
them and for the most part they are less reliable than the older and
newer generations. Then again, my '96 has given me its fair share of
problems.
>Gas mileage, how bad is it?
I get 20-22mpg highway, about 18mpg city with my 4.0L. I've heard here
and elsewhere that the V8 is not much worse, so go for power over mileage
if you've got the money.
>Is the gas mileage for the 6 better than the V8?
See above. :)
Sorry for the split post; I'm still learning this new usenet client.
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07-16-2007, 09:32 PM
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Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
Argh, usenet ate the first part of my post. Here's what got left out:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:39:21 +0000, Dean wrote:
>
>Which years should I look for/avoid?
I've heard bad things about the WJs ('99-'04). I know a few people with
them and for the most part they are less reliable than the older and
newer generations. Then again, my '96 has given me its fair share of
problems.
>Gas mileage, how bad is it?
I get 20-22mpg highway, about 18mpg city with my 4.0L. I've heard here
and elsewhere that the V8 is not much worse, so go for power over mileage
if you've got the money.
>Is the gas mileage for the 6 better than the V8?
See above. :)
Sorry for the split post; I'm still learning this new usenet client.
Morgan
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> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:39:21 +0000, Dean wrote:
>
>Which years should I look for/avoid?
I've heard bad things about the WJs ('99-'04). I know a few people with
them and for the most part they are less reliable than the older and
newer generations. Then again, my '96 has given me its fair share of
problems.
>Gas mileage, how bad is it?
I get 20-22mpg highway, about 18mpg city with my 4.0L. I've heard here
and elsewhere that the V8 is not much worse, so go for power over mileage
if you've got the money.
>Is the gas mileage for the 6 better than the V8?
See above. :)
Sorry for the split post; I'm still learning this new usenet client.
Morgan
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