Looking for CJ,..need help!
09-29-2003, 10:46 AM
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Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
all that and no picture????????
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnggioacsiv6c2@corp.supernews.com...
> Your tale caused me to chuckle. I found a '76 CJ5 last year and went to
look
> it over. From a glance my best sense said "run away, right now!", but it
had
> a solid frame, no rust and it ran. (I didn't say it ran well!) Barely any
> oil pressure when warmed up, bad snapping racket from left rear (loose
hub,
> I thought...right.), ugly maroon paint, add-a leaf rock hard
> suspension....love at first sight! It was a tailgate model, which I'm fond
> of, so I gave the guy $3,500 for it (about $3,500 more than it was worth)
> and he drove it about 20 miles to my house the next day. (He must have had
a
> death wish.)
>
> After stripping off all the home made bumpers, light bar, tire carrier,
> Mexican seat covers & other embarrassing crap, replacing the engine &
> clutch, rebuilding the rear end & installing new differential assy &
> one-piece axles, replacing the wiring harness, all new light assemblies,
> roll bar, steering & brakes, new rear drive shaft (old one was twisted
> nearly 45 degrees), new front u-joints, new seats & top, new Weber carb &
> DUI ignition, new gauges, new tires and a zillion other little parts, a
> complete strip to metal, body repair and repaint in the original
Firecracker
> Red paint......Hey, it's nearly done!
>
> To date I've (only?) got about $25k invested in it. I did most of the work
> myself, which saved a bundle, but otherwise, for anyone not in love with
it
> wouldn't have been good for anything but a parts stripper and maybe a
pigeon
> roost. Never have I seen a vehicle so completely abused & neglected. But,
a
> fool,in love is a fool indeed.
>
> Now it's in it's glory, looks & drives like a new vehicle and is an
absolute
> blast to own. It draws crowds whenever its' parked downtown and, well, no
it
> wasn't worth it, but it sure has been fun! (Hey, I'm retired, what else
am
> I gong to do?)
>
>
> "Casey Teague" <abnsigo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:_UTdb.4158$md5.3173@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > I agree with Paul. I have a 1973 CJ5 that I bought about 4 years ago
for
> > $2,800. All I was looking for was a Jeep with a solid frame, body, and
> ran.
> > Let me tell you, that's all I got. A couple of months ago I ran through
> all
> > the repairs and upgrades I've made and I've got, including purchase
price,
> > about $10k tied up in mine. It's in really good shape now but still
> > requires a lot of attention. If you don't want to wrench on it at all
> then
> > I'd probably shy away from the CJ's and look at the YJ's. If you don't
> mind
> > getting your hands dirty then the CJ is the way to go. I love mine and
> > wouldn't trade it for the world.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Casey Teague
> > http://justjeeps.jeepz.com
> >
> >
> >
> > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:bl8j3i$96no7$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > You can't buy the perfect CJ. I've been using mine as the hobby.
There
> > > will always be work to be done. If you have money that's cool, but I
> want
> > > you to know that this vehicle requires an owner that know how to use a
> > > wrench.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks Always !!!
> > > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > > Vail, CO.
> > > "Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > > Hi Allen,
> > > >
> > > > in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if
> the
> > > > both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator
in
> > the
> > > > fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced
but,
> > are
> > > > not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of
> replacing
> > > > mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end
I
> > > bought
> > > > aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument
> > cluster,
> > > > was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't
have
> > that
> > > > silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
> > > >
> > > > Glenn
> > > > 74 CJ5
> > > > XJ Cherokee
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have
> problems
> > > and
> > > > > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one
> with
> > > the
> > > > > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was
off
> > and
> > > > new
> > > > > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch
> > whatsoever.
> > > > Had
> > > > > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s
> on
> > it
> > > > > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is
that
> I
> > > > only
> > > > > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to
buy
> > > this
> > > > > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted
> at
> > > the
> > > > > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame
> that
> > > the
> > > > > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these
mounts
> > > were
> > > > > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The
> bushings
> > > > shot
> > > > > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and
> second
> > > can
> > > > > they be welded onto the frame?
> > > > > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like
> > crap.
> > > > > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or
> what?!
> > > > > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > > > > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle
> > through
> > > > the
> > > > > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the
> gear
> > > > > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch
> > in,..the
> > > > > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an
> adjustment
> > > that
> > > > > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch
> > replaced
> > > > > yesterday.
> > > > > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the
> > float
> > > > in
> > > > > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > > > > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnggioacsiv6c2@corp.supernews.com...
> Your tale caused me to chuckle. I found a '76 CJ5 last year and went to
look
> it over. From a glance my best sense said "run away, right now!", but it
had
> a solid frame, no rust and it ran. (I didn't say it ran well!) Barely any
> oil pressure when warmed up, bad snapping racket from left rear (loose
hub,
> I thought...right.), ugly maroon paint, add-a leaf rock hard
> suspension....love at first sight! It was a tailgate model, which I'm fond
> of, so I gave the guy $3,500 for it (about $3,500 more than it was worth)
> and he drove it about 20 miles to my house the next day. (He must have had
a
> death wish.)
>
> After stripping off all the home made bumpers, light bar, tire carrier,
> Mexican seat covers & other embarrassing crap, replacing the engine &
> clutch, rebuilding the rear end & installing new differential assy &
> one-piece axles, replacing the wiring harness, all new light assemblies,
> roll bar, steering & brakes, new rear drive shaft (old one was twisted
> nearly 45 degrees), new front u-joints, new seats & top, new Weber carb &
> DUI ignition, new gauges, new tires and a zillion other little parts, a
> complete strip to metal, body repair and repaint in the original
Firecracker
> Red paint......Hey, it's nearly done!
>
> To date I've (only?) got about $25k invested in it. I did most of the work
> myself, which saved a bundle, but otherwise, for anyone not in love with
it
> wouldn't have been good for anything but a parts stripper and maybe a
pigeon
> roost. Never have I seen a vehicle so completely abused & neglected. But,
a
> fool,in love is a fool indeed.
>
> Now it's in it's glory, looks & drives like a new vehicle and is an
absolute
> blast to own. It draws crowds whenever its' parked downtown and, well, no
it
> wasn't worth it, but it sure has been fun! (Hey, I'm retired, what else
am
> I gong to do?)
>
>
> "Casey Teague" <abnsigo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:_UTdb.4158$md5.3173@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > I agree with Paul. I have a 1973 CJ5 that I bought about 4 years ago
for
> > $2,800. All I was looking for was a Jeep with a solid frame, body, and
> ran.
> > Let me tell you, that's all I got. A couple of months ago I ran through
> all
> > the repairs and upgrades I've made and I've got, including purchase
price,
> > about $10k tied up in mine. It's in really good shape now but still
> > requires a lot of attention. If you don't want to wrench on it at all
> then
> > I'd probably shy away from the CJ's and look at the YJ's. If you don't
> mind
> > getting your hands dirty then the CJ is the way to go. I love mine and
> > wouldn't trade it for the world.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Casey Teague
> > http://justjeeps.jeepz.com
> >
> >
> >
> > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:bl8j3i$96no7$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > You can't buy the perfect CJ. I've been using mine as the hobby.
There
> > > will always be work to be done. If you have money that's cool, but I
> want
> > > you to know that this vehicle requires an owner that know how to use a
> > > wrench.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks Always !!!
> > > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > > Vail, CO.
> > > "Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > > Hi Allen,
> > > >
> > > > in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if
> the
> > > > both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator
in
> > the
> > > > fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced
but,
> > are
> > > > not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of
> replacing
> > > > mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end
I
> > > bought
> > > > aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument
> > cluster,
> > > > was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't
have
> > that
> > > > silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
> > > >
> > > > Glenn
> > > > 74 CJ5
> > > > XJ Cherokee
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have
> problems
> > > and
> > > > > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one
> with
> > > the
> > > > > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was
off
> > and
> > > > new
> > > > > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch
> > whatsoever.
> > > > Had
> > > > > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s
> on
> > it
> > > > > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is
that
> I
> > > > only
> > > > > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to
buy
> > > this
> > > > > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted
> at
> > > the
> > > > > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame
> that
> > > the
> > > > > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these
mounts
> > > were
> > > > > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The
> bushings
> > > > shot
> > > > > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and
> second
> > > can
> > > > > they be welded onto the frame?
> > > > > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like
> > crap.
> > > > > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or
> what?!
> > > > > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > > > > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle
> > through
> > > > the
> > > > > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the
> gear
> > > > > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch
> > in,..the
> > > > > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an
> adjustment
> > > that
> > > > > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch
> > replaced
> > > > > yesterday.
> > > > > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the
> > float
> > > > in
> > > > > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > > > > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
09-29-2003, 12:14 PM
#24
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Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
Geez, you're not trying to compare an Real Civilian Jeep with a XJ
are?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> America if need be, not a CJ.
>
> I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
are?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> America if need be, not a CJ.
>
> I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
09-29-2003, 12:14 PM
#25
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Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
Geez, you're not trying to compare an Real Civilian Jeep with a XJ
are?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> America if need be, not a CJ.
>
> I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
are?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> America if need be, not a CJ.
>
> I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
09-29-2003, 12:38 PM
#26
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Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
Sure am. He even used the word "SUV" so I am even at "liberty" to bring
in the Liberty to the discussion.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Geez, you're not trying to compare an Real Civilian Jeep with a XJ
> are?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
>>around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
>>America if need be, not a CJ.
>>
>>I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
>>for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
>>and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
in the Liberty to the discussion.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Geez, you're not trying to compare an Real Civilian Jeep with a XJ
> are?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
>>around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
>>America if need be, not a CJ.
>>
>>I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
>>for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
>>and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
09-29-2003, 12:38 PM
#27
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Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
Sure am. He even used the word "SUV" so I am even at "liberty" to bring
in the Liberty to the discussion.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Geez, you're not trying to compare an Real Civilian Jeep with a XJ
> are?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
>>around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
>>America if need be, not a CJ.
>>
>>I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
>>for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
>>and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
in the Liberty to the discussion.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Geez, you're not trying to compare an Real Civilian Jeep with a XJ
> are?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
>>around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
>>America if need be, not a CJ.
>>
>>I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
>>for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
>>and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
09-29-2003, 05:22 PM
#28
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Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
Hey, I tried to UL a JPG of the CJ and it wouldn't post. Any trick to this I
need to know?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F7857B4.D5C3E462@***.net...
> Ditto.
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > all that and no picture????????
need to know?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F7857B4.D5C3E462@***.net...
> Ditto.
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > all that and no picture????????
09-29-2003, 05:22 PM
#29
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Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
Hey, I tried to UL a JPG of the CJ and it wouldn't post. Any trick to this I
need to know?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F7857B4.D5C3E462@***.net...
> Ditto.
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > all that and no picture????????
need to know?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F7857B4.D5C3E462@***.net...
> Ditto.
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > all that and no picture????????
09-29-2003, 05:33 PM
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Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
Hi Gerald,
Most news servers will not let you post binaries to a text only
group. Your Internet Service Provider usually will supply their clients
with web storage space. You may activate yours at:
http://www.frontier.net/support/html.html if Frontier is your ISP. Then
make a link like you see in my signature.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Hey, I tried to UL a JPG of the CJ and it wouldn't post. Any trick to this I
> need to know?
Most news servers will not let you post binaries to a text only
group. Your Internet Service Provider usually will supply their clients
with web storage space. You may activate yours at:
http://www.frontier.net/support/html.html if Frontier is your ISP. Then
make a link like you see in my signature.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Hey, I tried to UL a JPG of the CJ and it wouldn't post. Any trick to this I
> need to know?
