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09-28-2003 08:10 PM

Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems and
they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with the
features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off and new
metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch whatsoever. Had
an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on it
with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I only
have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy this
one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.

Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at the
body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that the
body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts were
almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings shot
obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second can
they be welded onto the frame?
Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like crap.
Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle through the
gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch in,..the
noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment that
can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch replaced
yesterday.
And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the float in
the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!



Allen



Onlyinajeepcj7 09-28-2003 08:36 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
I feel your frustration. I looked for 4 years before I bought my first CJ. I
wanted to spend 4 to 5 K and ended up spending just under 8K, but got a 42K
mile rust free/mint, fully loaded.....you get the idea. I didn''t have to put
any sizable $ into it for amost 10 years and even then it has been more
reliable than a Toyota I owned. In short, don't buy junk unless you like to
spend a lot of time and bucks.
Those mounts are part of the frame condition and can hide rust problems under
the bushings. Rust from the inside out is a problem too. Yes, you can buy just
the mount extensions and reweld them on....kinda a big project.
I feel that 5500 is high if it has all a lot of problems and such. Where are
you looking for a CJ, the south and west US are good places to start for less
rusty CJs. Carbs are always a PITA

Onlyinajeepcj7 09-28-2003 08:36 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
I feel your frustration. I looked for 4 years before I bought my first CJ. I
wanted to spend 4 to 5 K and ended up spending just under 8K, but got a 42K
mile rust free/mint, fully loaded.....you get the idea. I didn''t have to put
any sizable $ into it for amost 10 years and even then it has been more
reliable than a Toyota I owned. In short, don't buy junk unless you like to
spend a lot of time and bucks.
Those mounts are part of the frame condition and can hide rust problems under
the bushings. Rust from the inside out is a problem too. Yes, you can buy just
the mount extensions and reweld them on....kinda a big project.
I feel that 5500 is high if it has all a lot of problems and such. Where are
you looking for a CJ, the south and west US are good places to start for less
rusty CJs. Carbs are always a PITA

Glenn Wainwright 09-29-2003 01:12 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Hi Allen,

in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if the
both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator in the
fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced but, are
not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of replacing
mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end I bought
aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument cluster,
was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't have that
silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.

Glenn
74 CJ5
XJ Cherokee

<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems and
> they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with the
> features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off and

new
> metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch whatsoever.

Had
> an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on it
> with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I

only
> have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy this
> one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
>
> Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at the
> body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that the
> body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts were
> almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings

shot
> obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second can
> they be welded onto the frame?
> Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like crap.
> Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle through

the
> gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch in,..the
> noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment that
> can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch replaced
> yesterday.
> And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the float

in
> the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
>
>
>
> Allen
>
>




Glenn Wainwright 09-29-2003 01:12 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Hi Allen,

in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if the
both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator in the
fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced but, are
not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of replacing
mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end I bought
aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument cluster,
was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't have that
silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.

Glenn
74 CJ5
XJ Cherokee

<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems and
> they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with the
> features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off and

new
> metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch whatsoever.

Had
> an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on it
> with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I

only
> have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy this
> one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
>
> Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at the
> body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that the
> body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts were
> almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings

shot
> obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second can
> they be welded onto the frame?
> Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like crap.
> Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle through

the
> gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch in,..the
> noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment that
> can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch replaced
> yesterday.
> And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the float

in
> the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
>
>
>
> Allen
>
>




Paul Brogren 09-29-2003 02:25 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
You can't buy the perfect CJ. I've been using mine as the hobby. There
will always be work to be done. If you have money that's cool, but I want
you to know that this vehicle requires an owner that know how to use a
wrench.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.
"Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> Hi Allen,
>
> in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if the
> both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator in the
> fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced but, are
> not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of replacing
> mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end I

bought
> aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument cluster,
> was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't have that
> silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
>
> Glenn
> 74 CJ5
> XJ Cherokee
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems

and
> > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with

the
> > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off and

> new
> > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch whatsoever.

> Had
> > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on it
> > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I

> only
> > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy

this
> > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> >
> > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at

the
> > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that

the
> > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts

were
> > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings

> shot
> > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second

can
> > they be welded onto the frame?
> > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like crap.
> > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle through

> the
> > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch in,..the
> > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment

that
> > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch replaced
> > yesterday.
> > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the float

> in
> > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> >
> >
> >
> > Allen
> >
> >

>
>




Paul Brogren 09-29-2003 02:25 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
You can't buy the perfect CJ. I've been using mine as the hobby. There
will always be work to be done. If you have money that's cool, but I want
you to know that this vehicle requires an owner that know how to use a
wrench.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.
"Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> Hi Allen,
>
> in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if the
> both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator in the
> fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced but, are
> not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of replacing
> mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end I

bought
> aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument cluster,
> was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't have that
> silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
>
> Glenn
> 74 CJ5
> XJ Cherokee
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems

and
> > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with

the
> > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off and

> new
> > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch whatsoever.

> Had
> > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on it
> > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I

> only
> > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy

this
> > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> >
> > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at

the
> > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that

the
> > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts

were
> > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings

> shot
> > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second

can
> > they be welded onto the frame?
> > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like crap.
> > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle through

> the
> > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch in,..the
> > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment

that
> > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch replaced
> > yesterday.
> > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the float

> in
> > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> >
> >
> >
> > Allen
> >
> >

>
>




Casey Teague 09-29-2003 06:35 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
I agree with Paul. I have a 1973 CJ5 that I bought about 4 years ago for
$2,800. All I was looking for was a Jeep with a solid frame, body, and ran.
Let me tell you, that's all I got. A couple of months ago I ran through all
the repairs and upgrades I've made and I've got, including purchase price,
about $10k tied up in mine. It's in really good shape now but still
requires a lot of attention. If you don't want to wrench on it at all then
I'd probably shy away from the CJ's and look at the YJ's. If you don't mind
getting your hands dirty then the CJ is the way to go. I love mine and
wouldn't trade it for the world.

Good luck,

Casey Teague
http://justjeeps.jeepz.com



"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:bl8j3i$96no7$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> You can't buy the perfect CJ. I've been using mine as the hobby. There
> will always be work to be done. If you have money that's cool, but I want
> you to know that this vehicle requires an owner that know how to use a
> wrench.
>
> --
> Thanks Always !!!
> Paul '75 CJ5 258
> Vail, CO.
> "Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > Hi Allen,
> >
> > in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if the
> > both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator in

the
> > fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced but,

are
> > not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of replacing
> > mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end I

> bought
> > aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument

cluster,
> > was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't have

that
> > silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
> >
> > Glenn
> > 74 CJ5
> > XJ Cherokee
> >
> > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems

> and
> > > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with

> the
> > > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off

and
> > new
> > > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch

whatsoever.
> > Had
> > > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on

it
> > > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I

> > only
> > > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy

> this
> > > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> > >
> > > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at

> the
> > > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that

> the
> > > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts

> were
> > > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings

> > shot
> > > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second

> can
> > > they be welded onto the frame?
> > > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like

crap.
> > > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> > > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle

through
> > the
> > > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> > > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch

in,..the
> > > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment

> that
> > > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch

replaced
> > > yesterday.
> > > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the

float
> > in
> > > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Casey Teague 09-29-2003 06:35 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
I agree with Paul. I have a 1973 CJ5 that I bought about 4 years ago for
$2,800. All I was looking for was a Jeep with a solid frame, body, and ran.
Let me tell you, that's all I got. A couple of months ago I ran through all
the repairs and upgrades I've made and I've got, including purchase price,
about $10k tied up in mine. It's in really good shape now but still
requires a lot of attention. If you don't want to wrench on it at all then
I'd probably shy away from the CJ's and look at the YJ's. If you don't mind
getting your hands dirty then the CJ is the way to go. I love mine and
wouldn't trade it for the world.

Good luck,

Casey Teague
http://justjeeps.jeepz.com



"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:bl8j3i$96no7$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> You can't buy the perfect CJ. I've been using mine as the hobby. There
> will always be work to be done. If you have money that's cool, but I want
> you to know that this vehicle requires an owner that know how to use a
> wrench.
>
> --
> Thanks Always !!!
> Paul '75 CJ5 258
> Vail, CO.
> "Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > Hi Allen,
> >
> > in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if the
> > both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator in

the
> > fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced but,

are
> > not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of replacing
> > mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end I

> bought
> > aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument

cluster,
> > was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't have

that
> > silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
> >
> > Glenn
> > 74 CJ5
> > XJ Cherokee
> >
> > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems

> and
> > > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with

> the
> > > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off

and
> > new
> > > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch

whatsoever.
> > Had
> > > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on

it
> > > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I

> > only
> > > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy

> this
> > > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> > >
> > > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at

> the
> > > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that

> the
> > > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts

> were
> > > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings

> > shot
> > > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second

> can
> > > they be welded onto the frame?
> > > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like

crap.
> > > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> > > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle

through
> > the
> > > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> > > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch

in,..the
> > > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment

> that
> > > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch

replaced
> > > yesterday.
> > > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the

float
> > in
> > > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




aGraham 09-29-2003 10:02 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
In article <YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>,
"Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
in the end I bought
> aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument cluster,
> was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't have that
> silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
>


Glenn-
Do you have pictures or a write up how you did this? I am about to try
to fix mine but this sounds like a better way. What brand gauges did
you use? How do they look?





> Glenn
> 74 CJ5
> XJ Cherokee
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems and
> > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with the
> > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off and

> new
> > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch whatsoever.

> Had
> > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on it
> > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I

> only
> > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy this
> > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> >
> > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at the
> > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that the
> > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts were
> > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings

> shot
> > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second can
> > they be welded onto the frame?
> > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like crap.
> > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle through

> the
> > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch in,..the
> > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment that
> > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch replaced
> > yesterday.
> > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the float

> in
> > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> >
> >
> >
> > Allen
> >
> >

>
>


aGraham 09-29-2003 10:02 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
In article <YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>,
"Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
in the end I bought
> aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument cluster,
> was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't have that
> silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
>


Glenn-
Do you have pictures or a write up how you did this? I am about to try
to fix mine but this sounds like a better way. What brand gauges did
you use? How do they look?





> Glenn
> 74 CJ5
> XJ Cherokee
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems and
> > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with the
> > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off and

> new
> > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch whatsoever.

> Had
> > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on it
> > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I

> only
> > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy this
> > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> >
> > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at the
> > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that the
> > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts were
> > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings

> shot
> > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second can
> > they be welded onto the frame?
> > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like crap.
> > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle through

> the
> > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch in,..the
> > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment that
> > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch replaced
> > yesterday.
> > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the float

> in
> > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> >
> >
> >
> > Allen
> >
> >

>
>


Joshua Nelson 09-29-2003 10:12 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
No offense, but $5k is kind of a low budget if you are looking for a
CJ in nice shape. The reason you are finding CJs with lots of rust
and problems is because you're shopping in the bottom of the barrel.
We spent $15k on our CJ. Admittedly that is the high end, but it was
in near-perfect shape with brand new paint and 8-cyl engine, and zero
leaks, rust, or other problems. Some people would laugh at paying
that much for a CJ but it was worth that to us to get a solid vehicle
right out of the box and not have to spend tons of time and money in
repairs. And it's still better than any comparable new SUV you could
get on a dealer's lot for the same price.


<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:<9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
> I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems and
> they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with the
> features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off and new
> metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch whatsoever. Had
> an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on it
> with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I only
> have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy this
> one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
>
> Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at the
> body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that the
> body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts were
> almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings shot
> obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second can
> they be welded onto the frame?
> Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like crap.
> Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle through the
> gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch in,..the
> noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment that
> can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch replaced
> yesterday.
> And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the float in
> the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
>
>
>
> Allen


Joshua Nelson 09-29-2003 10:12 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
No offense, but $5k is kind of a low budget if you are looking for a
CJ in nice shape. The reason you are finding CJs with lots of rust
and problems is because you're shopping in the bottom of the barrel.
We spent $15k on our CJ. Admittedly that is the high end, but it was
in near-perfect shape with brand new paint and 8-cyl engine, and zero
leaks, rust, or other problems. Some people would laugh at paying
that much for a CJ but it was worth that to us to get a solid vehicle
right out of the box and not have to spend tons of time and money in
repairs. And it's still better than any comparable new SUV you could
get on a dealer's lot for the same price.


<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:<9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
> I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems and
> they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with the
> features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off and new
> metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch whatsoever. Had
> an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on it
> with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I only
> have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy this
> one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
>
> Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at the
> body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that the
> body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts were
> almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings shot
> obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second can
> they be welded onto the frame?
> Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like crap.
> Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle through the
> gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch in,..the
> noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment that
> can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch replaced
> yesterday.
> And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the float in
> the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
>
>
>
> Allen


Gerald G. McGeorge 09-29-2003 10:29 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Your tale caused me to chuckle. I found a '76 CJ5 last year and went to look
it over. From a glance my best sense said "run away, right now!", but it had
a solid frame, no rust and it ran. (I didn't say it ran well!) Barely any
oil pressure when warmed up, bad snapping racket from left rear (loose hub,
I thought...right.), ugly maroon paint, add-a leaf rock hard
suspension....love at first sight! It was a tailgate model, which I'm fond
of, so I gave the guy $3,500 for it (about $3,500 more than it was worth)
and he drove it about 20 miles to my house the next day. (He must have had a
death wish.)

After stripping off all the home made bumpers, light bar, tire carrier,
Mexican seat covers & other embarrassing crap, replacing the engine &
clutch, rebuilding the rear end & installing new differential assy &
one-piece axles, replacing the wiring harness, all new light assemblies,
roll bar, steering & brakes, new rear drive shaft (old one was twisted
nearly 45 degrees), new front u-joints, new seats & top, new Weber carb &
DUI ignition, new gauges, new tires and a zillion other little parts, a
complete strip to metal, body repair and repaint in the original Firecracker
Red paint......Hey, it's nearly done!

To date I've (only?) got about $25k invested in it. I did most of the work
myself, which saved a bundle, but otherwise, for anyone not in love with it
wouldn't have been good for anything but a parts stripper and maybe a pigeon
roost. Never have I seen a vehicle so completely abused & neglected. But, a
fool,in love is a fool indeed.

Now it's in it's glory, looks & drives like a new vehicle and is an absolute
blast to own. It draws crowds whenever its' parked downtown and, well, no it
wasn't worth it, but it sure has been fun! (Hey, I'm retired, what else am
I gong to do?)


"Casey Teague" <abnsigo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:_UTdb.4158$md5.3173@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> I agree with Paul. I have a 1973 CJ5 that I bought about 4 years ago for
> $2,800. All I was looking for was a Jeep with a solid frame, body, and

ran.
> Let me tell you, that's all I got. A couple of months ago I ran through

all
> the repairs and upgrades I've made and I've got, including purchase price,
> about $10k tied up in mine. It's in really good shape now but still
> requires a lot of attention. If you don't want to wrench on it at all

then
> I'd probably shy away from the CJ's and look at the YJ's. If you don't

mind
> getting your hands dirty then the CJ is the way to go. I love mine and
> wouldn't trade it for the world.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Casey Teague
> http://justjeeps.jeepz.com
>
>
>
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:bl8j3i$96no7$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > You can't buy the perfect CJ. I've been using mine as the hobby. There
> > will always be work to be done. If you have money that's cool, but I

want
> > you to know that this vehicle requires an owner that know how to use a
> > wrench.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks Always !!!
> > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > Vail, CO.
> > "Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > Hi Allen,
> > >
> > > in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if

the
> > > both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator in

> the
> > > fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced but,

> are
> > > not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of

replacing
> > > mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end I

> > bought
> > > aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument

> cluster,
> > > was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't have

> that
> > > silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > > 74 CJ5
> > > XJ Cherokee
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have

problems
> > and
> > > > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one

with
> > the
> > > > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off

> and
> > > new
> > > > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch

> whatsoever.
> > > Had
> > > > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s

on
> it
> > > > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that

I
> > > only
> > > > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy

> > this
> > > > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> > > >
> > > > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted

at
> > the
> > > > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame

that
> > the
> > > > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts

> > were
> > > > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The

bushings
> > > shot
> > > > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and

second
> > can
> > > > they be welded onto the frame?
> > > > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like

> crap.
> > > > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or

what?!
> > > > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > > > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle

> through
> > > the
> > > > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the

gear
> > > > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch

> in,..the
> > > > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an

adjustment
> > that
> > > > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch

> replaced
> > > > yesterday.
> > > > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the

> float
> > > in
> > > > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > > > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Gerald G. McGeorge 09-29-2003 10:29 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Your tale caused me to chuckle. I found a '76 CJ5 last year and went to look
it over. From a glance my best sense said "run away, right now!", but it had
a solid frame, no rust and it ran. (I didn't say it ran well!) Barely any
oil pressure when warmed up, bad snapping racket from left rear (loose hub,
I thought...right.), ugly maroon paint, add-a leaf rock hard
suspension....love at first sight! It was a tailgate model, which I'm fond
of, so I gave the guy $3,500 for it (about $3,500 more than it was worth)
and he drove it about 20 miles to my house the next day. (He must have had a
death wish.)

After stripping off all the home made bumpers, light bar, tire carrier,
Mexican seat covers & other embarrassing crap, replacing the engine &
clutch, rebuilding the rear end & installing new differential assy &
one-piece axles, replacing the wiring harness, all new light assemblies,
roll bar, steering & brakes, new rear drive shaft (old one was twisted
nearly 45 degrees), new front u-joints, new seats & top, new Weber carb &
DUI ignition, new gauges, new tires and a zillion other little parts, a
complete strip to metal, body repair and repaint in the original Firecracker
Red paint......Hey, it's nearly done!

To date I've (only?) got about $25k invested in it. I did most of the work
myself, which saved a bundle, but otherwise, for anyone not in love with it
wouldn't have been good for anything but a parts stripper and maybe a pigeon
roost. Never have I seen a vehicle so completely abused & neglected. But, a
fool,in love is a fool indeed.

Now it's in it's glory, looks & drives like a new vehicle and is an absolute
blast to own. It draws crowds whenever its' parked downtown and, well, no it
wasn't worth it, but it sure has been fun! (Hey, I'm retired, what else am
I gong to do?)


"Casey Teague" <abnsigo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:_UTdb.4158$md5.3173@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> I agree with Paul. I have a 1973 CJ5 that I bought about 4 years ago for
> $2,800. All I was looking for was a Jeep with a solid frame, body, and

ran.
> Let me tell you, that's all I got. A couple of months ago I ran through

all
> the repairs and upgrades I've made and I've got, including purchase price,
> about $10k tied up in mine. It's in really good shape now but still
> requires a lot of attention. If you don't want to wrench on it at all

then
> I'd probably shy away from the CJ's and look at the YJ's. If you don't

mind
> getting your hands dirty then the CJ is the way to go. I love mine and
> wouldn't trade it for the world.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Casey Teague
> http://justjeeps.jeepz.com
>
>
>
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:bl8j3i$96no7$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > You can't buy the perfect CJ. I've been using mine as the hobby. There
> > will always be work to be done. If you have money that's cool, but I

want
> > you to know that this vehicle requires an owner that know how to use a
> > wrench.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks Always !!!
> > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > Vail, CO.
> > "Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > Hi Allen,
> > >
> > > in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if

the
> > > both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator in

> the
> > > fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced but,

> are
> > > not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of

replacing
> > > mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end I

> > bought
> > > aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument

> cluster,
> > > was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't have

> that
> > > silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > > 74 CJ5
> > > XJ Cherokee
> > >
> > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have

problems
> > and
> > > > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one

with
> > the
> > > > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off

> and
> > > new
> > > > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch

> whatsoever.
> > > Had
> > > > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s

on
> it
> > > > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that

I
> > > only
> > > > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy

> > this
> > > > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> > > >
> > > > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted

at
> > the
> > > > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame

that
> > the
> > > > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts

> > were
> > > > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The

bushings
> > > shot
> > > > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and

second
> > can
> > > > they be welded onto the frame?
> > > > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like

> crap.
> > > > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or

what?!
> > > > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > > > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle

> through
> > > the
> > > > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the

gear
> > > > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch

> in,..the
> > > > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an

adjustment
> > that
> > > > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch

> replaced
> > > > yesterday.
> > > > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the

> float
> > > in
> > > > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > > > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




twaldron 09-29-2003 10:32 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
America if need be, not a CJ.

I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.

Joshua Nelson wrote:

> No offense, but $5k is kind of a low budget if you are looking for a
> CJ in nice shape. The reason you are finding CJs with lots of rust
> and problems is because you're shopping in the bottom of the barrel.
> We spent $15k on our CJ. Admittedly that is the high end, but it was
> in near-perfect shape with brand new paint and 8-cyl engine, and zero
> leaks, rust, or other problems. Some people would laugh at paying
> that much for a CJ but it was worth that to us to get a solid vehicle
> right out of the box and not have to spend tons of time and money in
> repairs. And it's still better than any comparable new SUV you could
> get on a dealer's lot for the same price.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 09-29-2003 10:32 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
America if need be, not a CJ.

I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.

Joshua Nelson wrote:

> No offense, but $5k is kind of a low budget if you are looking for a
> CJ in nice shape. The reason you are finding CJs with lots of rust
> and problems is because you're shopping in the bottom of the barrel.
> We spent $15k on our CJ. Admittedly that is the high end, but it was
> in near-perfect shape with brand new paint and 8-cyl engine, and zero
> leaks, rust, or other problems. Some people would laugh at paying
> that much for a CJ but it was worth that to us to get a solid vehicle
> right out of the box and not have to spend tons of time and money in
> repairs. And it's still better than any comparable new SUV you could
> get on a dealer's lot for the same price.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


Joe 09-29-2003 10:41 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Do not rush buying the CJ... I looked for months. I was going to buy one
(actually had a loan and everything). Something about it was just not right
(too leaky for me). He wanted $4900, talked him down to $4000. Last time I
looked at it it had a major coolant leak. Decided not to buy. Actually put
the whole "buy a jeep" thing on hold. About a month later, a guy in my
neighborhood decided to sell his 85 CJ7. $3000 I found my jeep withing
walking distance of my house (I didn't even know they owned a Jeep)! Plus
his wife is HOT...


<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems and
> they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with the
> features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off and

new
> metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch whatsoever.

Had
> an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on it
> with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I

only
> have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy this
> one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
>
> Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at the
> body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that the
> body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts were
> almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings

shot
> obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second can
> they be welded onto the frame?
> Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like crap.
> Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle through

the
> gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch in,..the
> noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment that
> can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch replaced
> yesterday.
> And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the float

in
> the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
>
>
>
> Allen
>
>




Joe 09-29-2003 10:41 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Do not rush buying the CJ... I looked for months. I was going to buy one
(actually had a loan and everything). Something about it was just not right
(too leaky for me). He wanted $4900, talked him down to $4000. Last time I
looked at it it had a major coolant leak. Decided not to buy. Actually put
the whole "buy a jeep" thing on hold. About a month later, a guy in my
neighborhood decided to sell his 85 CJ7. $3000 I found my jeep withing
walking distance of my house (I didn't even know they owned a Jeep)! Plus
his wife is HOT...


<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have problems and
> they all have so many different features...just haven't found one with the
> features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was off and

new
> metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch whatsoever.

Had
> an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s on it
> with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is that I

only
> have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to buy this
> one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
>
> Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted at the
> body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame that the
> body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these mounts were
> almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The bushings

shot
> obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and second can
> they be welded onto the frame?
> Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like crap.
> Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or what?!
> Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle through

the
> gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the gear
> shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch in,..the
> noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an adjustment that
> can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch replaced
> yesterday.
> And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the float

in
> the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
>
>
>
> Allen
>
>




Joe 09-29-2003 10:46 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
all that and no picture????????

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnggioacsiv6c2@corp.supernews.com...
> Your tale caused me to chuckle. I found a '76 CJ5 last year and went to

look
> it over. From a glance my best sense said "run away, right now!", but it

had
> a solid frame, no rust and it ran. (I didn't say it ran well!) Barely any
> oil pressure when warmed up, bad snapping racket from left rear (loose

hub,
> I thought...right.), ugly maroon paint, add-a leaf rock hard
> suspension....love at first sight! It was a tailgate model, which I'm fond
> of, so I gave the guy $3,500 for it (about $3,500 more than it was worth)
> and he drove it about 20 miles to my house the next day. (He must have had

a
> death wish.)
>
> After stripping off all the home made bumpers, light bar, tire carrier,
> Mexican seat covers & other embarrassing crap, replacing the engine &
> clutch, rebuilding the rear end & installing new differential assy &
> one-piece axles, replacing the wiring harness, all new light assemblies,
> roll bar, steering & brakes, new rear drive shaft (old one was twisted
> nearly 45 degrees), new front u-joints, new seats & top, new Weber carb &
> DUI ignition, new gauges, new tires and a zillion other little parts, a
> complete strip to metal, body repair and repaint in the original

Firecracker
> Red paint......Hey, it's nearly done!
>
> To date I've (only?) got about $25k invested in it. I did most of the work
> myself, which saved a bundle, but otherwise, for anyone not in love with

it
> wouldn't have been good for anything but a parts stripper and maybe a

pigeon
> roost. Never have I seen a vehicle so completely abused & neglected. But,

a
> fool,in love is a fool indeed.
>
> Now it's in it's glory, looks & drives like a new vehicle and is an

absolute
> blast to own. It draws crowds whenever its' parked downtown and, well, no

it
> wasn't worth it, but it sure has been fun! (Hey, I'm retired, what else

am
> I gong to do?)
>
>
> "Casey Teague" <abnsigo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:_UTdb.4158$md5.3173@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > I agree with Paul. I have a 1973 CJ5 that I bought about 4 years ago

for
> > $2,800. All I was looking for was a Jeep with a solid frame, body, and

> ran.
> > Let me tell you, that's all I got. A couple of months ago I ran through

> all
> > the repairs and upgrades I've made and I've got, including purchase

price,
> > about $10k tied up in mine. It's in really good shape now but still
> > requires a lot of attention. If you don't want to wrench on it at all

> then
> > I'd probably shy away from the CJ's and look at the YJ's. If you don't

> mind
> > getting your hands dirty then the CJ is the way to go. I love mine and
> > wouldn't trade it for the world.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Casey Teague
> > http://justjeeps.jeepz.com
> >
> >
> >
> > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:bl8j3i$96no7$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > You can't buy the perfect CJ. I've been using mine as the hobby.

There
> > > will always be work to be done. If you have money that's cool, but I

> want
> > > you to know that this vehicle requires an owner that know how to use a
> > > wrench.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks Always !!!
> > > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > > Vail, CO.
> > > "Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > > Hi Allen,
> > > >
> > > > in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if

> the
> > > > both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator

in
> > the
> > > > fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced

but,
> > are
> > > > not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of

> replacing
> > > > mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end

I
> > > bought
> > > > aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument

> > cluster,
> > > > was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't

have
> > that
> > > > silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
> > > >
> > > > Glenn
> > > > 74 CJ5
> > > > XJ Cherokee
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have

> problems
> > > and
> > > > > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one

> with
> > > the
> > > > > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was

off
> > and
> > > > new
> > > > > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch

> > whatsoever.
> > > > Had
> > > > > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s

> on
> > it
> > > > > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is

that
> I
> > > > only
> > > > > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to

buy
> > > this
> > > > > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted

> at
> > > the
> > > > > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame

> that
> > > the
> > > > > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these

mounts
> > > were
> > > > > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The

> bushings
> > > > shot
> > > > > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and

> second
> > > can
> > > > > they be welded onto the frame?
> > > > > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like

> > crap.
> > > > > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or

> what?!
> > > > > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > > > > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle

> > through
> > > > the
> > > > > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the

> gear
> > > > > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch

> > in,..the
> > > > > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an

> adjustment
> > > that
> > > > > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch

> > replaced
> > > > > yesterday.
> > > > > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the

> > float
> > > > in
> > > > > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > > > > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Joe 09-29-2003 10:46 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
all that and no picture????????

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnggioacsiv6c2@corp.supernews.com...
> Your tale caused me to chuckle. I found a '76 CJ5 last year and went to

look
> it over. From a glance my best sense said "run away, right now!", but it

had
> a solid frame, no rust and it ran. (I didn't say it ran well!) Barely any
> oil pressure when warmed up, bad snapping racket from left rear (loose

hub,
> I thought...right.), ugly maroon paint, add-a leaf rock hard
> suspension....love at first sight! It was a tailgate model, which I'm fond
> of, so I gave the guy $3,500 for it (about $3,500 more than it was worth)
> and he drove it about 20 miles to my house the next day. (He must have had

a
> death wish.)
>
> After stripping off all the home made bumpers, light bar, tire carrier,
> Mexican seat covers & other embarrassing crap, replacing the engine &
> clutch, rebuilding the rear end & installing new differential assy &
> one-piece axles, replacing the wiring harness, all new light assemblies,
> roll bar, steering & brakes, new rear drive shaft (old one was twisted
> nearly 45 degrees), new front u-joints, new seats & top, new Weber carb &
> DUI ignition, new gauges, new tires and a zillion other little parts, a
> complete strip to metal, body repair and repaint in the original

Firecracker
> Red paint......Hey, it's nearly done!
>
> To date I've (only?) got about $25k invested in it. I did most of the work
> myself, which saved a bundle, but otherwise, for anyone not in love with

it
> wouldn't have been good for anything but a parts stripper and maybe a

pigeon
> roost. Never have I seen a vehicle so completely abused & neglected. But,

a
> fool,in love is a fool indeed.
>
> Now it's in it's glory, looks & drives like a new vehicle and is an

absolute
> blast to own. It draws crowds whenever its' parked downtown and, well, no

it
> wasn't worth it, but it sure has been fun! (Hey, I'm retired, what else

am
> I gong to do?)
>
>
> "Casey Teague" <abnsigo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:_UTdb.4158$md5.3173@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > I agree with Paul. I have a 1973 CJ5 that I bought about 4 years ago

for
> > $2,800. All I was looking for was a Jeep with a solid frame, body, and

> ran.
> > Let me tell you, that's all I got. A couple of months ago I ran through

> all
> > the repairs and upgrades I've made and I've got, including purchase

price,
> > about $10k tied up in mine. It's in really good shape now but still
> > requires a lot of attention. If you don't want to wrench on it at all

> then
> > I'd probably shy away from the CJ's and look at the YJ's. If you don't

> mind
> > getting your hands dirty then the CJ is the way to go. I love mine and
> > wouldn't trade it for the world.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Casey Teague
> > http://justjeeps.jeepz.com
> >
> >
> >
> > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:bl8j3i$96no7$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > You can't buy the perfect CJ. I've been using mine as the hobby.

There
> > > will always be work to be done. If you have money that's cool, but I

> want
> > > you to know that this vehicle requires an owner that know how to use a
> > > wrench.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks Always !!!
> > > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > > Vail, CO.
> > > "Glenn Wainwright" <jeepthing66@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:YCPdb.83$t44.3427@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > > Hi Allen,
> > > >
> > > > in regards to the gas gauge, I think they probably are a problem, if

> the
> > > > both the temp and the fuel gauge aren't working then the regulator

in
> > the
> > > > fuel gauge is probably burned out, the gauges are easily replaced

but,
> > are
> > > > not very reliable from my experience, I went to the expense of

> replacing
> > > > mine only to have them burn out again within six months. in the end

I
> > > bought
> > > > aftermarket two inch gauges and made them fit into the instrument

> > cluster,
> > > > was a very tight fit but can be done, half the price and doesn't

have
> > that
> > > > silly regulator thingy in them to burn out.
> > > >
> > > > Glenn
> > > > 74 CJ5
> > > > XJ Cherokee
> > > >
> > > > <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:9MKdb.37627$uJ2.4480@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > > > I've looked at so many I'm about to drop over. They all have

> problems
> > > and
> > > > > they all have so many different features...just haven't found one

> with
> > > the
> > > > > features I want. I looked at one today that the entire body was

off
> > and
> > > > new
> > > > > metal put in...floor boards you name it. Not a ding, scratch

> > whatsoever.
> > > > Had
> > > > > an old hard top with piece of crap doors. Ran beautifully. Had 31s

> on
> > it
> > > > > with great tread. He wants $5,500. Not too bad. Only problem is

that
> I
> > > > only
> > > > > have about 5k to play with and I want 33s without a doubt. So to

buy
> > > this
> > > > > one,...I'd have to spend another 2k to get tires/wheels/lift.
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay I'm rambling..here are my questions: Many jeeps are so rusted

> at
> > > the
> > > > > body mounts. On the frame, there are supports welded on the frame

> that
> > > the
> > > > > body bushings rest on. On the jeep I looked at today,...these

mounts
> > > were
> > > > > almost rusted through...but the frame was in great shape. The

> bushings
> > > > shot
> > > > > obviously. My question is....can these mounts be purchased and

> second
> > > can
> > > > > they be welded onto the frame?
> > > > > Carb,...this one had a holley two bbl with manual choke. Ran like

> > crap.
> > > > > Does the regular Joe mechanic know how to tune these things or

> what?!
> > > > > Or,..should I just spend the 300 bucks and get a new one?
> > > > > Transmission,....I'm sure all of you have heard a vehicle rattle

> > through
> > > > the
> > > > > gear shift...like metal on metal rattle that comes up through the

> gear
> > > > > shift,....buses usually sound like this. When I put the clutch

> > in,..the
> > > > > noise goes away. Sounds like a whirling noise. Is there an

> adjustment
> > > that
> > > > > can be made...is something serious here? He just had the clutch

> > replaced
> > > > > yesterday.
> > > > > And lastly....the gas gauge doesn't work....is it common to be the

> > float
> > > > in
> > > > > the tank or is it a gauge problem. And the temp gauge doens't
> > > > > work....rambling again. Anyway....any advice would be great!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Allen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-29-2003 12:03 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Ditto.

Joe wrote:
>
> all that and no picture????????


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-29-2003 12:03 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Ditto.

Joe wrote:
>
> all that and no picture????????


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-29-2003 12:14 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Geez, you're not trying to compare an Real Civilian Jeep with a XJ
are?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


twaldron wrote:
>
> Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> America if need be, not a CJ.
>
> I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-29-2003 12:14 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Geez, you're not trying to compare an Real Civilian Jeep with a XJ
are?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


twaldron wrote:
>
> Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> America if need be, not a CJ.
>
> I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 09-29-2003 12:38 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Sure am. He even used the word "SUV" so I am even at "liberty" to bring
in the Liberty to the discussion.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Geez, you're not trying to compare an Real Civilian Jeep with a XJ
> are?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
>>around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
>>America if need be, not a CJ.
>>
>>I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
>>for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
>>and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 09-29-2003 12:38 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Sure am. He even used the word "SUV" so I am even at "liberty" to bring
in the Liberty to the discussion.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Geez, you're not trying to compare an Real Civilian Jeep with a XJ
> are?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
>>around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
>>America if need be, not a CJ.
>>
>>I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
>>for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
>>and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


Gerald G. McGeorge 09-29-2003 05:22 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Hey, I tried to UL a JPG of the CJ and it wouldn't post. Any trick to this I
need to know?

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7857B4.D5C3E462@cox.net...
> Ditto.
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > all that and no picture????????




Gerald G. McGeorge 09-29-2003 05:22 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Hey, I tried to UL a JPG of the CJ and it wouldn't post. Any trick to this I
need to know?

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7857B4.D5C3E462@cox.net...
> Ditto.
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > all that and no picture????????




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-29-2003 05:33 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Hi Gerald,
Most news servers will not let you post binaries to a text only
group. Your Internet Service Provider usually will supply their clients
with web storage space. You may activate yours at:
http://www.frontier.net/support/html.html if Frontier is your ISP. Then
make a link like you see in my signature.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Hey, I tried to UL a JPG of the CJ and it wouldn't post. Any trick to this I
> need to know?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-29-2003 05:33 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Hi Gerald,
Most news servers will not let you post binaries to a text only
group. Your Internet Service Provider usually will supply their clients
with web storage space. You may activate yours at:
http://www.frontier.net/support/html.html if Frontier is your ISP. Then
make a link like you see in my signature.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Hey, I tried to UL a JPG of the CJ and it wouldn't post. Any trick to this I
> need to know?


Gerald G. McGeorge 09-29-2003 08:14 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Hey, thanks Bill. I'll check it out.


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F78A518.5CFB21D5@cox.net...
> Hi Gerald,
> Most news servers will not let you post binaries to a text only
> group. Your Internet Service Provider usually will supply their clients
> with web storage space. You may activate yours at:
> http://www.frontier.net/support/html.html if Frontier is your ISP. Then
> make a link like you see in my signature.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> >
> > Hey, I tried to UL a JPG of the CJ and it wouldn't post. Any trick to

this I
> > need to know?




Gerald G. McGeorge 09-29-2003 08:14 PM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Hey, thanks Bill. I'll check it out.


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F78A518.5CFB21D5@cox.net...
> Hi Gerald,
> Most news servers will not let you post binaries to a text only
> group. Your Internet Service Provider usually will supply their clients
> with web storage space. You may activate yours at:
> http://www.frontier.net/support/html.html if Frontier is your ISP. Then
> make a link like you see in my signature.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> >
> > Hey, I tried to UL a JPG of the CJ and it wouldn't post. Any trick to

this I
> > need to know?




Joshua Nelson 09-30-2003 09:26 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Ours was a CJ8 so there is somewhat a premium due to rarity of that
model, but around here $5k would still be the very low end for a
rustbucket CJ7.

twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message news:<7oXdb.663$8S2.530484393@newssvr11.news.prodi gy.com>...
> Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> America if need be, not a CJ.
>
> I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > No offense, but $5k is kind of a low budget if you are looking for a
> > CJ in nice shape. The reason you are finding CJs with lots of rust
> > and problems is because you're shopping in the bottom of the barrel.
> > We spent $15k on our CJ. Admittedly that is the high end, but it was
> > in near-perfect shape with brand new paint and 8-cyl engine, and zero
> > leaks, rust, or other problems. Some people would laugh at paying
> > that much for a CJ but it was worth that to us to get a solid vehicle
> > right out of the box and not have to spend tons of time and money in
> > repairs. And it's still better than any comparable new SUV you could
> > get on a dealer's lot for the same price.

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________


Joshua Nelson 09-30-2003 09:26 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Ours was a CJ8 so there is somewhat a premium due to rarity of that
model, but around here $5k would still be the very low end for a
rustbucket CJ7.

twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message news:<7oXdb.663$8S2.530484393@newssvr11.news.prodi gy.com>...
> Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> America if need be, not a CJ.
>
> I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > No offense, but $5k is kind of a low budget if you are looking for a
> > CJ in nice shape. The reason you are finding CJs with lots of rust
> > and problems is because you're shopping in the bottom of the barrel.
> > We spent $15k on our CJ. Admittedly that is the high end, but it was
> > in near-perfect shape with brand new paint and 8-cyl engine, and zero
> > leaks, rust, or other problems. Some people would laugh at paying
> > that much for a CJ but it was worth that to us to get a solid vehicle
> > right out of the box and not have to spend tons of time and money in
> > repairs. And it's still better than any comparable new SUV you could
> > get on a dealer's lot for the same price.

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________


Greg 09-30-2003 09:52 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Gee I looked at an 81 with glass body, frame looks good, but it runs ruff,
been told by several seperate people that the engine/trans are shot, but
this guy only wants $4,000.00 Canadian, about 3 K US, given that it looks
brand new but may need a lot of engine transmition work, should I still be
considering this vehicle?

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:7oXdb.663$8S2.530484393@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> America if need be, not a CJ.
>
> I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > No offense, but $5k is kind of a low budget if you are looking for a
> > CJ in nice shape. The reason you are finding CJs with lots of rust
> > and problems is because you're shopping in the bottom of the barrel.
> > We spent $15k on our CJ. Admittedly that is the high end, but it was
> > in near-perfect shape with brand new paint and 8-cyl engine, and zero
> > leaks, rust, or other problems. Some people would laugh at paying
> > that much for a CJ but it was worth that to us to get a solid vehicle
> > right out of the box and not have to spend tons of time and money in
> > repairs. And it's still better than any comparable new SUV you could
> > get on a dealer's lot for the same price.

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>




Greg 09-30-2003 09:52 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
Gee I looked at an 81 with glass body, frame looks good, but it runs ruff,
been told by several seperate people that the engine/trans are shot, but
this guy only wants $4,000.00 Canadian, about 3 K US, given that it looks
brand new but may need a lot of engine transmition work, should I still be
considering this vehicle?

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:7oXdb.663$8S2.530484393@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> America if need be, not a CJ.
>
> I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > No offense, but $5k is kind of a low budget if you are looking for a
> > CJ in nice shape. The reason you are finding CJs with lots of rust
> > and problems is because you're shopping in the bottom of the barrel.
> > We spent $15k on our CJ. Admittedly that is the high end, but it was
> > in near-perfect shape with brand new paint and 8-cyl engine, and zero
> > leaks, rust, or other problems. Some people would laugh at paying
> > that much for a CJ but it was worth that to us to get a solid vehicle
> > right out of the box and not have to spend tons of time and money in
> > repairs. And it's still better than any comparable new SUV you could
> > get on a dealer's lot for the same price.

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>




Joe 09-30-2003 10:04 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
I'd think you could have a rebuilt engine and tranny installed for under
$3k...

"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:UUfeb.51755$TM4.6390@pd7tw2no...
> Gee I looked at an 81 with glass body, frame looks good, but it runs

ruff,
> been told by several seperate people that the engine/trans are shot, but
> this guy only wants $4,000.00 Canadian, about 3 K US, given that it looks
> brand new but may need a lot of engine transmition work, should I still be
> considering this vehicle?
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:7oXdb.663$8S2.530484393@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> > Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> > around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> > America if need be, not a CJ.
> >
> > I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> > for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> > and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
> >
> > Joshua Nelson wrote:
> >
> > > No offense, but $5k is kind of a low budget if you are looking for a
> > > CJ in nice shape. The reason you are finding CJs with lots of rust
> > > and problems is because you're shopping in the bottom of the barrel.
> > > We spent $15k on our CJ. Admittedly that is the high end, but it was
> > > in near-perfect shape with brand new paint and 8-cyl engine, and zero
> > > leaks, rust, or other problems. Some people would laugh at paying
> > > that much for a CJ but it was worth that to us to get a solid vehicle
> > > right out of the box and not have to spend tons of time and money in
> > > repairs. And it's still better than any comparable new SUV you could
> > > get on a dealer's lot for the same price.

> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >

>
>




Joe 09-30-2003 10:04 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
I'd think you could have a rebuilt engine and tranny installed for under
$3k...

"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:UUfeb.51755$TM4.6390@pd7tw2no...
> Gee I looked at an 81 with glass body, frame looks good, but it runs

ruff,
> been told by several seperate people that the engine/trans are shot, but
> this guy only wants $4,000.00 Canadian, about 3 K US, given that it looks
> brand new but may need a lot of engine transmition work, should I still be
> considering this vehicle?
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:7oXdb.663$8S2.530484393@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> > Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
> > around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
> > America if need be, not a CJ.
> >
> > I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
> > for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
> > and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
> >
> > Joshua Nelson wrote:
> >
> > > No offense, but $5k is kind of a low budget if you are looking for a
> > > CJ in nice shape. The reason you are finding CJs with lots of rust
> > > and problems is because you're shopping in the bottom of the barrel.
> > > We spent $15k on our CJ. Admittedly that is the high end, but it was
> > > in near-perfect shape with brand new paint and 8-cyl engine, and zero
> > > leaks, rust, or other problems. Some people would laugh at paying
> > > that much for a CJ but it was worth that to us to get a solid vehicle
> > > right out of the box and not have to spend tons of time and money in
> > > repairs. And it's still better than any comparable new SUV you could
> > > get on a dealer's lot for the same price.

> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >

>
>




twaldron 09-30-2003 10:11 AM

Re: Looking for CJ,..need help!
 
I wouldn't, but I'm not a fan of 'glass bodies. I'd look for a good
running, rust free specimen.

Greg wrote:

> Gee I looked at an 81 with glass body, frame looks good, but it runs ruff,
> been told by several seperate people that the engine/trans are shot, but
> this guy only wants $4,000.00 Canadian, about 3 K US, given that it looks
> brand new but may need a lot of engine transmition work, should I still be
> considering this vehicle?
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:7oXdb.663$8S2.530484393@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
>
>>Gee, I don't agree with that. I bought my 01 XJ Sport with 11k for
>>around $15k a year ago. While I love CJs, I'd drive my XJ to South
>>America if need be, not a CJ.
>>
>>I don't know where you live, but you can get a solid CJ in the southwest
>>for $5000. It might not be as pretty as yours, but it will be rust free
>>and $10k will plug a lot of leaks.
>>
>>Joshua Nelson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>No offense, but $5k is kind of a low budget if you are looking for a
>>>CJ in nice shape. The reason you are finding CJs with lots of rust
>>>and problems is because you're shopping in the bottom of the barrel.
>>>We spent $15k on our CJ. Admittedly that is the high end, but it was
>>>in near-perfect shape with brand new paint and 8-cyl engine, and zero
>>>leaks, rust, or other problems. Some people would laugh at paying
>>>that much for a CJ but it was worth that to us to get a solid vehicle
>>>right out of the box and not have to spend tons of time and money in
>>>repairs. And it's still better than any comparable new SUV you could
>>>get on a dealer's lot for the same price.

>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>

>
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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