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Re: multi-culturalism
Most people, no matter where in the world you happen to be, are decent
people.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:3SiGe.79055$G8.40117@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I'm not sure you are right, Billy. The Irish I have met are decent people
> not full of hatred, who just wish the organised crime and violence would
> stop on both sides.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b62c6$42e96034$42a1cc8c$31133@FUSE.NET...
>> I wouldn't expect the IRA would give up. Not unless some major changes
> are
>> made concerning home rule and/or independence and those changes won't be
>> made as long as the IRA is in a strong opposing position. A classic
> example
>> of an 'Catch-22'
>>
>> Like most Americans, I really don't know much about Mr. Blair or Mr.
>> Ahern
>> but I do know a little about the Irish. They are by nature and nurture a
>> contrary, passionate, and obstinate bunch and it they ever manage to get
>> unified they would be a populace to be reckoned with. I can not foresee
> them
>> coming together because they blindly hate each other and themselves too
> much
>> to allow self integration.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:xqaGe.78846$G8.77548@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> >I note that the IRA have now decided to stop being terrorists (yeah
>> >right).
>> >
>> > The White house said it understood that "the IRA and its members will
> no
>> > longer have any contact with any foreign paramilitary and ---------
>> > organisations".
>> >
>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm
>> >
>> > However, our whining ----wit spinless wonder of a prime-minister, who
> has
>> > been responsible for letting these murdering bastards out of gaol on
>> > the
>> > grounds that they are political prisoners, said it was a "step of
>> > unparalleled magnitude".
>> >
>> > Somehow If Al Quaeda terrorists renounced bombs, I can't see Bush
> reacting
>> > with praise and claims that it was the greatest thing ever.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:b0dab$42e7b8bd$42a1cc8c$30903@FUSE.NET...
>> >> I tell genealogy friends I an 50% German, 25% Swedish, and 25% Irish
> and
>> >> they can finedme "Crying in my beer while I plan to take over the
>> >> world
>> > and
>> >> make it safe for statuesque blonds and petite redheads."
>> >>
>> >> My grandfather Kelly's parents were from County Louth so I heard all
> the
>> >> stories growing up.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> news:EZGFe.77880$G8.73436@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> >> > We had several conventional wars over it. Ireland is a bit
>> >> > different;
>> > the
>> >> > northern irish (protestant) don't want to be one country with the
>> > southern
>> >> > irish (catholic). That's the conventional line; the truth is that
>> >> > the
>> > IRA
>> >> > and the ulster lot ran protection rackets using the above as an
> excuse.
>> > As
>> >> > long as everyone paid up to one side or the other, they were happy.
> Not
>> >> > really about occupation or religion.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >> >
>> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:bc862$42e6bc72$42a1cc8c$20400@FUSE.NET...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 'political prisoners' ; they swiftly realised that they had better
>> >> >> stop
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> > else, and the misty-eyed "my great grandpappy was a leprechaun"
>> >> >> > Irish-Americans stopped funding them).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Weren't the Scots kinda upset about the British occupation of their
>> >> > country
>> >> >> for a while?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
people.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:3SiGe.79055$G8.40117@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I'm not sure you are right, Billy. The Irish I have met are decent people
> not full of hatred, who just wish the organised crime and violence would
> stop on both sides.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b62c6$42e96034$42a1cc8c$31133@FUSE.NET...
>> I wouldn't expect the IRA would give up. Not unless some major changes
> are
>> made concerning home rule and/or independence and those changes won't be
>> made as long as the IRA is in a strong opposing position. A classic
> example
>> of an 'Catch-22'
>>
>> Like most Americans, I really don't know much about Mr. Blair or Mr.
>> Ahern
>> but I do know a little about the Irish. They are by nature and nurture a
>> contrary, passionate, and obstinate bunch and it they ever manage to get
>> unified they would be a populace to be reckoned with. I can not foresee
> them
>> coming together because they blindly hate each other and themselves too
> much
>> to allow self integration.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:xqaGe.78846$G8.77548@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> >I note that the IRA have now decided to stop being terrorists (yeah
>> >right).
>> >
>> > The White house said it understood that "the IRA and its members will
> no
>> > longer have any contact with any foreign paramilitary and ---------
>> > organisations".
>> >
>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm
>> >
>> > However, our whining ----wit spinless wonder of a prime-minister, who
> has
>> > been responsible for letting these murdering bastards out of gaol on
>> > the
>> > grounds that they are political prisoners, said it was a "step of
>> > unparalleled magnitude".
>> >
>> > Somehow If Al Quaeda terrorists renounced bombs, I can't see Bush
> reacting
>> > with praise and claims that it was the greatest thing ever.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:b0dab$42e7b8bd$42a1cc8c$30903@FUSE.NET...
>> >> I tell genealogy friends I an 50% German, 25% Swedish, and 25% Irish
> and
>> >> they can finedme "Crying in my beer while I plan to take over the
>> >> world
>> > and
>> >> make it safe for statuesque blonds and petite redheads."
>> >>
>> >> My grandfather Kelly's parents were from County Louth so I heard all
> the
>> >> stories growing up.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> news:EZGFe.77880$G8.73436@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> >> > We had several conventional wars over it. Ireland is a bit
>> >> > different;
>> > the
>> >> > northern irish (protestant) don't want to be one country with the
>> > southern
>> >> > irish (catholic). That's the conventional line; the truth is that
>> >> > the
>> > IRA
>> >> > and the ulster lot ran protection rackets using the above as an
> excuse.
>> > As
>> >> > long as everyone paid up to one side or the other, they were happy.
> Not
>> >> > really about occupation or religion.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >> >
>> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:bc862$42e6bc72$42a1cc8c$20400@FUSE.NET...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 'political prisoners' ; they swiftly realised that they had better
>> >> >> stop
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> > else, and the misty-eyed "my great grandpappy was a leprechaun"
>> >> >> > Irish-Americans stopped funding them).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Weren't the Scots kinda upset about the British occupation of their
>> >> > country
>> >> >> for a while?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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