Dave Milne

I note that the IRA have now decided to stop being terrorists (yeah right).

The White house said it understood that "the IRA and its members will no
longer have any contact with any foreign paramilitary and ---------
organisations".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm

However, our whining ----wit spinless wonder of a prime-minister, who has
been responsible for letting these murdering bastards out of gaol on the
grounds that they are political prisoners, said it was a "step of
unparalleled magnitude".

Somehow If Al Quaeda terrorists renounced bombs, I can't see Bush reacting
with praise and claims that it was the greatest thing ever.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b0dab$42e7b8bd$42a1cc8c$30903@FUSE.NET...
> I tell genealogy friends I an 50% German, 25% Swedish, and 25% Irish and
> they can finedme "Crying in my beer while I plan to take over the world
and
> make it safe for statuesque blonds and petite redheads."
>
> My grandfather Kelly's parents were from County Louth so I heard all the
> stories growing up.
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:EZGFe.77880$G8.73436@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > We had several conventional wars over it. Ireland is a bit different;
the
> > northern irish (protestant) don't want to be one country with the
southern
> > irish (catholic). That's the conventional line; the truth is that the
IRA
> > and the ulster lot ran protection rackets using the above as an excuse.
As
> > long as everyone paid up to one side or the other, they were happy. Not
> > really about occupation or religion.
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:bc862$42e6bc72$42a1cc8c$20400@FUSE.NET...
> >>
> >> 'political prisoners' ; they swiftly realised that they had better stop
> >> or
> >> > else, and the misty-eyed "my great grandpappy was a leprechaun"
> >> > Irish-Americans stopped funding them).
> >> >
> >>
> >> Weren't the Scots kinda upset about the British occupation of their
> > country
> >> for a while?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Billy Ray

I wouldn't expect the IRA would give up. Not unless some major changes are
made concerning home rule and/or independence and those changes won't be
made as long as the IRA is in a strong opposing position. A classic example
of an 'Catch-22'

Like most Americans, I really don't know much about Mr. Blair or Mr. Ahern
but I do know a little about the Irish. They are by nature and nurture a
contrary, passionate, and obstinate bunch and it they ever manage to get
unified they would be a populace to be reckoned with. I can not foresee them
coming together because they blindly hate each other and themselves too much
to allow self integration.



"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:xqaGe.78846$G8.77548@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>I note that the IRA have now decided to stop being terrorists (yeah
>right).
>
> The White house said it understood that "the IRA and its members will no
> longer have any contact with any foreign paramilitary and ---------
> organisations".
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm
>
> However, our whining ----wit spinless wonder of a prime-minister, who has
> been responsible for letting these murdering bastards out of gaol on the
> grounds that they are political prisoners, said it was a "step of
> unparalleled magnitude".
>
> Somehow If Al Quaeda terrorists renounced bombs, I can't see Bush reacting
> with praise and claims that it was the greatest thing ever.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b0dab$42e7b8bd$42a1cc8c$30903@FUSE.NET...
>> I tell genealogy friends I an 50% German, 25% Swedish, and 25% Irish and
>> they can finedme "Crying in my beer while I plan to take over the world
> and
>> make it safe for statuesque blonds and petite redheads."
>>
>> My grandfather Kelly's parents were from County Louth so I heard all the
>> stories growing up.
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:EZGFe.77880$G8.73436@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> > We had several conventional wars over it. Ireland is a bit different;
> the
>> > northern irish (protestant) don't want to be one country with the
> southern
>> > irish (catholic). That's the conventional line; the truth is that the
> IRA
>> > and the ulster lot ran protection rackets using the above as an excuse.
> As
>> > long as everyone paid up to one side or the other, they were happy. Not
>> > really about occupation or religion.
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:bc862$42e6bc72$42a1cc8c$20400@FUSE.NET...
>> >>
>> >> 'political prisoners' ; they swiftly realised that they had better
>> >> stop
>> >> or
>> >> > else, and the misty-eyed "my great grandpappy was a leprechaun"
>> >> > Irish-Americans stopped funding them).
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Weren't the Scots kinda upset about the British occupation of their
>> > country
>> >> for a while?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Billy Ray

I wouldn't expect the IRA would give up. Not unless some major changes are
made concerning home rule and/or independence and those changes won't be
made as long as the IRA is in a strong opposing position. A classic example
of an 'Catch-22'

Like most Americans, I really don't know much about Mr. Blair or Mr. Ahern
but I do know a little about the Irish. They are by nature and nurture a
contrary, passionate, and obstinate bunch and it they ever manage to get
unified they would be a populace to be reckoned with. I can not foresee them
coming together because they blindly hate each other and themselves too much
to allow self integration.



"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:xqaGe.78846$G8.77548@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>I note that the IRA have now decided to stop being terrorists (yeah
>right).
>
> The White house said it understood that "the IRA and its members will no
> longer have any contact with any foreign paramilitary and ---------
> organisations".
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm
>
> However, our whining ----wit spinless wonder of a prime-minister, who has
> been responsible for letting these murdering bastards out of gaol on the
> grounds that they are political prisoners, said it was a "step of
> unparalleled magnitude".
>
> Somehow If Al Quaeda terrorists renounced bombs, I can't see Bush reacting
> with praise and claims that it was the greatest thing ever.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b0dab$42e7b8bd$42a1cc8c$30903@FUSE.NET...
>> I tell genealogy friends I an 50% German, 25% Swedish, and 25% Irish and
>> they can finedme "Crying in my beer while I plan to take over the world
> and
>> make it safe for statuesque blonds and petite redheads."
>>
>> My grandfather Kelly's parents were from County Louth so I heard all the
>> stories growing up.
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:EZGFe.77880$G8.73436@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> > We had several conventional wars over it. Ireland is a bit different;
> the
>> > northern irish (protestant) don't want to be one country with the
> southern
>> > irish (catholic). That's the conventional line; the truth is that the
> IRA
>> > and the ulster lot ran protection rackets using the above as an excuse.
> As
>> > long as everyone paid up to one side or the other, they were happy. Not
>> > really about occupation or religion.
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:bc862$42e6bc72$42a1cc8c$20400@FUSE.NET...
>> >>
>> >> 'political prisoners' ; they swiftly realised that they had better
>> >> stop
>> >> or
>> >> > else, and the misty-eyed "my great grandpappy was a leprechaun"
>> >> > Irish-Americans stopped funding them).
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Weren't the Scots kinda upset about the British occupation of their
>> > country
>> >> for a while?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Billy Ray

I wouldn't expect the IRA would give up. Not unless some major changes are
made concerning home rule and/or independence and those changes won't be
made as long as the IRA is in a strong opposing position. A classic example
of an 'Catch-22'

Like most Americans, I really don't know much about Mr. Blair or Mr. Ahern
but I do know a little about the Irish. They are by nature and nurture a
contrary, passionate, and obstinate bunch and it they ever manage to get
unified they would be a populace to be reckoned with. I can not foresee them
coming together because they blindly hate each other and themselves too much
to allow self integration.



"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:xqaGe.78846$G8.77548@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>I note that the IRA have now decided to stop being terrorists (yeah
>right).
>
> The White house said it understood that "the IRA and its members will no
> longer have any contact with any foreign paramilitary and ---------
> organisations".
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm
>
> However, our whining ----wit spinless wonder of a prime-minister, who has
> been responsible for letting these murdering bastards out of gaol on the
> grounds that they are political prisoners, said it was a "step of
> unparalleled magnitude".
>
> Somehow If Al Quaeda terrorists renounced bombs, I can't see Bush reacting
> with praise and claims that it was the greatest thing ever.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b0dab$42e7b8bd$42a1cc8c$30903@FUSE.NET...
>> I tell genealogy friends I an 50% German, 25% Swedish, and 25% Irish and
>> they can finedme "Crying in my beer while I plan to take over the world
> and
>> make it safe for statuesque blonds and petite redheads."
>>
>> My grandfather Kelly's parents were from County Louth so I heard all the
>> stories growing up.
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:EZGFe.77880$G8.73436@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> > We had several conventional wars over it. Ireland is a bit different;
> the
>> > northern irish (protestant) don't want to be one country with the
> southern
>> > irish (catholic). That's the conventional line; the truth is that the
> IRA
>> > and the ulster lot ran protection rackets using the above as an excuse.
> As
>> > long as everyone paid up to one side or the other, they were happy. Not
>> > really about occupation or religion.
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:bc862$42e6bc72$42a1cc8c$20400@FUSE.NET...
>> >>
>> >> 'political prisoners' ; they swiftly realised that they had better
>> >> stop
>> >> or
>> >> > else, and the misty-eyed "my great grandpappy was a leprechaun"
>> >> > Irish-Americans stopped funding them).
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Weren't the Scots kinda upset about the British occupation of their
>> > country
>> >> for a while?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Billy Ray

I wouldn't expect the IRA would give up. Not unless some major changes are
made concerning home rule and/or independence and those changes won't be
made as long as the IRA is in a strong opposing position. A classic example
of an 'Catch-22'

Like most Americans, I really don't know much about Mr. Blair or Mr. Ahern
but I do know a little about the Irish. They are by nature and nurture a
contrary, passionate, and obstinate bunch and it they ever manage to get
unified they would be a populace to be reckoned with. I can not foresee them
coming together because they blindly hate each other and themselves too much
to allow self integration.



"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:xqaGe.78846$G8.77548@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>I note that the IRA have now decided to stop being terrorists (yeah
>right).
>
> The White house said it understood that "the IRA and its members will no
> longer have any contact with any foreign paramilitary and ---------
> organisations".
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm
>
> However, our whining ----wit spinless wonder of a prime-minister, who has
> been responsible for letting these murdering bastards out of gaol on the
> grounds that they are political prisoners, said it was a "step of
> unparalleled magnitude".
>
> Somehow If Al Quaeda terrorists renounced bombs, I can't see Bush reacting
> with praise and claims that it was the greatest thing ever.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b0dab$42e7b8bd$42a1cc8c$30903@FUSE.NET...
>> I tell genealogy friends I an 50% German, 25% Swedish, and 25% Irish and
>> they can finedme "Crying in my beer while I plan to take over the world
> and
>> make it safe for statuesque blonds and petite redheads."
>>
>> My grandfather Kelly's parents were from County Louth so I heard all the
>> stories growing up.
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:EZGFe.77880$G8.73436@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> > We had several conventional wars over it. Ireland is a bit different;
> the
>> > northern irish (protestant) don't want to be one country with the
> southern
>> > irish (catholic). That's the conventional line; the truth is that the
> IRA
>> > and the ulster lot ran protection rackets using the above as an excuse.
> As
>> > long as everyone paid up to one side or the other, they were happy. Not
>> > really about occupation or religion.
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:bc862$42e6bc72$42a1cc8c$20400@FUSE.NET...
>> >>
>> >> 'political prisoners' ; they swiftly realised that they had better
>> >> stop
>> >> or
>> >> > else, and the misty-eyed "my great grandpappy was a leprechaun"
>> >> > Irish-Americans stopped funding them).
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Weren't the Scots kinda upset about the British occupation of their
>> > country
>> >> for a while?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Dave Milne

I'm not sure you are right, Billy. The Irish I have met are decent people
not full of hatred, who just wish the organised crime and violence would
stop on both sides.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b62c6$42e96034$42a1cc8c$31133@FUSE.NET...
> I wouldn't expect the IRA would give up. Not unless some major changes
are
> made concerning home rule and/or independence and those changes won't be
> made as long as the IRA is in a strong opposing position. A classic
example
> of an 'Catch-22'
>
> Like most Americans, I really don't know much about Mr. Blair or Mr. Ahern
> but I do know a little about the Irish. They are by nature and nurture a
> contrary, passionate, and obstinate bunch and it they ever manage to get
> unified they would be a populace to be reckoned with. I can not foresee
them
> coming together because they blindly hate each other and themselves too
much
> to allow self integration.
>
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:xqaGe.78846$G8.77548@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> >I note that the IRA have now decided to stop being terrorists (yeah
> >right).
> >
> > The White house said it understood that "the IRA and its members will
no
> > longer have any contact with any foreign paramilitary and ---------
> > organisations".
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm
> >
> > However, our whining ----wit spinless wonder of a prime-minister, who
has
> > been responsible for letting these murdering bastards out of gaol on the
> > grounds that they are political prisoners, said it was a "step of
> > unparalleled magnitude".
> >
> > Somehow If Al Quaeda terrorists renounced bombs, I can't see Bush
reacting
> > with praise and claims that it was the greatest thing ever.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:b0dab$42e7b8bd$42a1cc8c$30903@FUSE.NET...
> >> I tell genealogy friends I an 50% German, 25% Swedish, and 25% Irish
and
> >> they can finedme "Crying in my beer while I plan to take over the world
> > and
> >> make it safe for statuesque blonds and petite redheads."
> >>
> >> My grandfather Kelly's parents were from County Louth so I heard all
the
> >> stories growing up.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> news:EZGFe.77880$G8.73436@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> >> > We had several conventional wars over it. Ireland is a bit different;
> > the
> >> > northern irish (protestant) don't want to be one country with the
> > southern
> >> > irish (catholic). That's the conventional line; the truth is that the
> > IRA
> >> > and the ulster lot ran protection rackets using the above as an
excuse.
> > As
> >> > long as everyone paid up to one side or the other, they were happy.
Not
> >> > really about occupation or religion.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >
> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:bc862$42e6bc72$42a1cc8c$20400@FUSE.NET...
> >> >>
> >> >> 'political prisoners' ; they swiftly realised that they had better
> >> >> stop
> >> >> or
> >> >> > else, and the misty-eyed "my great grandpappy was a leprechaun"
> >> >> > Irish-Americans stopped funding them).
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Weren't the Scots kinda upset about the British occupation of their
> >> > country
> >> >> for a while?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

I'm not sure you are right, Billy. The Irish I have met are decent people
not full of hatred, who just wish the organised crime and violence would
stop on both sides.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b62c6$42e96034$42a1cc8c$31133@FUSE.NET...
> I wouldn't expect the IRA would give up. Not unless some major changes
are
> made concerning home rule and/or independence and those changes won't be
> made as long as the IRA is in a strong opposing position. A classic
example
> of an 'Catch-22'
>
> Like most Americans, I really don't know much about Mr. Blair or Mr. Ahern
> but I do know a little about the Irish. They are by nature and nurture a
> contrary, passionate, and obstinate bunch and it they ever manage to get
> unified they would be a populace to be reckoned with. I can not foresee
them
> coming together because they blindly hate each other and themselves too
much
> to allow self integration.
>
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:xqaGe.78846$G8.77548@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> >I note that the IRA have now decided to stop being terrorists (yeah
> >right).
> >
> > The White house said it understood that "the IRA and its members will
no
> > longer have any contact with any foreign paramilitary and ---------
> > organisations".
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm
> >
> > However, our whining ----wit spinless wonder of a prime-minister, who
has
> > been responsible for letting these murdering bastards out of gaol on the
> > grounds that they are political prisoners, said it was a "step of
> > unparalleled magnitude".
> >
> > Somehow If Al Quaeda terrorists renounced bombs, I can't see Bush
reacting
> > with praise and claims that it was the greatest thing ever.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:b0dab$42e7b8bd$42a1cc8c$30903@FUSE.NET...
> >> I tell genealogy friends I an 50% German, 25% Swedish, and 25% Irish
and
> >> they can finedme "Crying in my beer while I plan to take over the world
> > and
> >> make it safe for statuesque blonds and petite redheads."
> >>
> >> My grandfather Kelly's parents were from County Louth so I heard all
the
> >> stories growing up.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> news:EZGFe.77880$G8.73436@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> >> > We had several conventional wars over it. Ireland is a bit different;
> > the
> >> > northern irish (protestant) don't want to be one country with the
> > southern
> >> > irish (catholic). That's the conventional line; the truth is that the
> > IRA
> >> > and the ulster lot ran protection rackets using the above as an
excuse.
> > As
> >> > long as everyone paid up to one side or the other, they were happy.
Not
> >> > really about occupation or religion.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >
> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:bc862$42e6bc72$42a1cc8c$20400@FUSE.NET...
> >> >>
> >> >> 'political prisoners' ; they swiftly realised that they had better
> >> >> stop
> >> >> or
> >> >> > else, and the misty-eyed "my great grandpappy was a leprechaun"
> >> >> > Irish-Americans stopped funding them).
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Weren't the Scots kinda upset about the British occupation of their
> >> > country
> >> >> for a while?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

I'm not sure you are right, Billy. The Irish I have met are decent people
not full of hatred, who just wish the organised crime and violence would
stop on both sides.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b62c6$42e96034$42a1cc8c$31133@FUSE.NET...
> I wouldn't expect the IRA would give up. Not unless some major changes
are
> made concerning home rule and/or independence and those changes won't be
> made as long as the IRA is in a strong opposing position. A classic
example
> of an 'Catch-22'
>
> Like most Americans, I really don't know much about Mr. Blair or Mr. Ahern
> but I do know a little about the Irish. They are by nature and nurture a
> contrary, passionate, and obstinate bunch and it they ever manage to get
> unified they would be a populace to be reckoned with. I can not foresee
them
> coming together because they blindly hate each other and themselves too
much
> to allow self integration.
>
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:xqaGe.78846$G8.77548@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> >I note that the IRA have now decided to stop being terrorists (yeah
> >right).
> >
> > The White house said it understood that "the IRA and its members will
no
> > longer have any contact with any foreign paramilitary and ---------
> > organisations".
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm
> >
> > However, our whining ----wit spinless wonder of a prime-minister, who
has
> > been responsible for letting these murdering bastards out of gaol on the
> > grounds that they are political prisoners, said it was a "step of
> > unparalleled magnitude".
> >
> > Somehow If Al Quaeda terrorists renounced bombs, I can't see Bush
reacting
> > with praise and claims that it was the greatest thing ever.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:b0dab$42e7b8bd$42a1cc8c$30903@FUSE.NET...
> >> I tell genealogy friends I an 50% German, 25% Swedish, and 25% Irish
and
> >> they can finedme "Crying in my beer while I plan to take over the world
> > and
> >> make it safe for statuesque blonds and petite redheads."
> >>
> >> My grandfather Kelly's parents were from County Louth so I heard all
the
> >> stories growing up.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> news:EZGFe.77880$G8.73436@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> >> > We had several conventional wars over it. Ireland is a bit different;
> > the
> >> > northern irish (protestant) don't want to be one country with the
> > southern
> >> > irish (catholic). That's the conventional line; the truth is that the
> > IRA
> >> > and the ulster lot ran protection rackets using the above as an
excuse.
> > As
> >> > long as everyone paid up to one side or the other, they were happy.
Not
> >> > really about occupation or religion.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >
> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:bc862$42e6bc72$42a1cc8c$20400@FUSE.NET...
> >> >>
> >> >> 'political prisoners' ; they swiftly realised that they had better
> >> >> stop
> >> >> or
> >> >> > else, and the misty-eyed "my great grandpappy was a leprechaun"
> >> >> > Irish-Americans stopped funding them).
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Weren't the Scots kinda upset about the British occupation of their
> >> > country
> >> >> for a while?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

I'm not sure you are right, Billy. The Irish I have met are decent people
not full of hatred, who just wish the organised crime and violence would
stop on both sides.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b62c6$42e96034$42a1cc8c$31133@FUSE.NET...
> I wouldn't expect the IRA would give up. Not unless some major changes
are
> made concerning home rule and/or independence and those changes won't be
> made as long as the IRA is in a strong opposing position. A classic
example
> of an 'Catch-22'
>
> Like most Americans, I really don't know much about Mr. Blair or Mr. Ahern
> but I do know a little about the Irish. They are by nature and nurture a
> contrary, passionate, and obstinate bunch and it they ever manage to get
> unified they would be a populace to be reckoned with. I can not foresee
them
> coming together because they blindly hate each other and themselves too
much
> to allow self integration.
>
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:xqaGe.78846$G8.77548@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> >I note that the IRA have now decided to stop being terrorists (yeah
> >right).
> >
> > The White house said it understood that "the IRA and its members will
no
> > longer have any contact with any foreign paramilitary and ---------
> > organisations".
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm
> >
> > However, our whining ----wit spinless wonder of a prime-minister, who
has
> > been responsible for letting these murdering bastards out of gaol on the
> > grounds that they are political prisoners, said it was a "step of
> > unparalleled magnitude".
> >
> > Somehow If Al Quaeda terrorists renounced bombs, I can't see Bush
reacting
> > with praise and claims that it was the greatest thing ever.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:b0dab$42e7b8bd$42a1cc8c$30903@FUSE.NET...
> >> I tell genealogy friends I an 50% German, 25% Swedish, and 25% Irish
and
> >> they can finedme "Crying in my beer while I plan to take over the world
> > and
> >> make it safe for statuesque blonds and petite redheads."
> >>
> >> My grandfather Kelly's parents were from County Louth so I heard all
the
> >> stories growing up.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> news:EZGFe.77880$G8.73436@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> >> > We had several conventional wars over it. Ireland is a bit different;
> > the
> >> > northern irish (protestant) don't want to be one country with the
> > southern
> >> > irish (catholic). That's the conventional line; the truth is that the
> > IRA
> >> > and the ulster lot ran protection rackets using the above as an
excuse.
> > As
> >> > long as everyone paid up to one side or the other, they were happy.
Not
> >> > really about occupation or religion.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >
> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:bc862$42e6bc72$42a1cc8c$20400@FUSE.NET...
> >> >>
> >> >> 'political prisoners' ; they swiftly realised that they had better
> >> >> stop
> >> >> or
> >> >> > else, and the misty-eyed "my great grandpappy was a leprechaun"
> >> >> > Irish-Americans stopped funding them).
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Weren't the Scots kinda upset about the British occupation of their
> >> > country
> >> >> for a while?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

That's true of my Son-in-law's parents and their clan mostly from
Cork City, that visit us every other year. They get very upset at my
loaded firearms in varoius racks through out my home. They'll be out
next week: http://www.----------.com/irishclan.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm not sure you are right, Billy. The Irish I have met are decent people
> not full of hatred, who just wish the organised crime and violence would
> stop on both sides.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ