Jerry Newton

If you are talking about a flat tax with no exemptions, then I am on board
with you. Where do I sign up? 10% beats the hell out of the 50% that I
currently pay. I wish I could get my hands on the bastards that keep
writing these fat checks out at my expense.

I don't mean to come off as cynical, Matt, but apparently I do. I must just
have a ----ed up writing sense.

Jerry


"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> They don't need to, they just do. Personally, I think a 10% individual
> income tax, split between the state and feds (let them fight out the
> division), would eliminate most of this favoritism.
>
> On Sat, 15 May 2004 12:56:19 -0400, "Jerry Newton"
> <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote:
>
> >US subsidies to soybean farmers equal $11,000,000,000 (yes, billion) from
> >1995-2002. Source: USDA. Maybe you can explain to me why I need to
pay
> >our farmers to grow soybeans to sell to China.
> >
> >Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >news:5o5ba0dauvcecuevht3oqt9ir5fq6ri5ri@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:46:19 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:facaa0tc1g42t0ejf89hgtg9og6vsj477m@4ax.com.. .
> >> >> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton"
<leaveme@lone.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
> >> >> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
> >> >Chinese.
> >> >> >Liberal much?
> >> >>
> >> >> Two more false assumptions.
> >> >
> >> >Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to
beat
> >it
> >> >out of you. Have a nice day.
> >>
> >> I thought you'd never ask. Roughly 28% of American farm land is
> >> planted in soybeans. The Chinese are the largest importer of American
> >> soybeans (286 million bushels in 2004). Those farmers certainly gain
> >> by trade with China.
> >>
> >> American soybeans:
> >> http://www.asasoya.org/
> >>
> >> China's soybean imports:
> >> http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/news...-China-Strong/
> >>
> >> US is the second largest exporter to China behind only Japan. We do
> >> import more from China than we sell, but the Chinese market is growing
> >> and our exports are growing with it.
> >>
> >> US/Chinese import/export numbers
> >> http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
> >>
> >> Not all Americans can afford the cost of US made products, especially
> >> if they are no better than cheaper Chinese imports.
> >>
> >> Free trade generates more jobs for the US than it loses. They are
> >> different jobs, more of them are in the service sector than in
> >> manufacturing, but they pay better and are more interesting.
> >>
> >> We can close our borders to free trade, but we will lose the jobs
> >> anyway and will end up paying more for the goods we manufacture here.
> >
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The top federal tax bracket is thirty five percent.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> If you are talking about a flat tax with no exemptions, then I am on board
> with you. Where do I sign up? 10% beats the hell out of the 50% that I
> currently pay. I wish I could get my hands on the bastards that keep
> writing these fat checks out at my expense.
>
> I don't mean to come off as cynical, Matt, but apparently I do. I must just
> have a ----ed up writing sense.
>
> Jerry

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The top federal tax bracket is thirty five percent.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> If you are talking about a flat tax with no exemptions, then I am on board
> with you. Where do I sign up? 10% beats the hell out of the 50% that I
> currently pay. I wish I could get my hands on the bastards that keep
> writing these fat checks out at my expense.
>
> I don't mean to come off as cynical, Matt, but apparently I do. I must just
> have a ----ed up writing sense.
>
> Jerry

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The top federal tax bracket is thirty five percent.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> If you are talking about a flat tax with no exemptions, then I am on board
> with you. Where do I sign up? 10% beats the hell out of the 50% that I
> currently pay. I wish I could get my hands on the bastards that keep
> writing these fat checks out at my expense.
>
> I don't mean to come off as cynical, Matt, but apparently I do. I must just
> have a ----ed up writing sense.
>
> Jerry

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The top federal tax bracket is thirty five percent.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> If you are talking about a flat tax with no exemptions, then I am on board
> with you. Where do I sign up? 10% beats the hell out of the 50% that I
> currently pay. I wish I could get my hands on the bastards that keep
> writing these fat checks out at my expense.
>
> I don't mean to come off as cynical, Matt, but apparently I do. I must just
> have a ----ed up writing sense.
>
> Jerry

Jerry Newton

I am aware of that..... however, not included in that number is social
security, property tax, sales tax, capital gains tax, gasoline tax.........
don't think about it too much, you will want to slash your wrists.

Jerry



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> The top federal tax bracket is thirty five percent.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > If you are talking about a flat tax with no exemptions, then I am on
board
> > with you. Where do I sign up? 10% beats the hell out of the 50% that I
> > currently pay. I wish I could get my hands on the bastards that keep
> > writing these fat checks out at my expense.
> >
> > I don't mean to come off as cynical, Matt, but apparently I do. I must
just
> > have a ----ed up writing sense.
> >
> > Jerry

Jerry Newton

I am aware of that..... however, not included in that number is social
security, property tax, sales tax, capital gains tax, gasoline tax.........
don't think about it too much, you will want to slash your wrists.

Jerry



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40A6A6F9.6D85D16B@***.net...
> The top federal tax bracket is thirty five percent.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > If you are talking about a flat tax with no exemptions, then I am on
board
> > with you. Where do I sign up? 10% beats the hell out of the 50% that I
> > currently pay. I wish I could get my hands on the bastards that keep
> > writing these fat checks out at my expense.
> >
> > I don't mean to come off as cynical, Matt, but apparently I do. I must
just
> > have a ----ed up writing sense.
> >
> > Jerry

Jerry Newton

I am aware of that..... however, not included in that number is social
security, property tax, sales tax, capital gains tax, gasoline tax.........
don't think about it too much, you will want to slash your wrists.

Jerry



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40A6A6F9.6D85D16B@***.net...
> The top federal tax bracket is thirty five percent.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > If you are talking about a flat tax with no exemptions, then I am on
board
> > with you. Where do I sign up? 10% beats the hell out of the 50% that I
> > currently pay. I wish I could get my hands on the bastards that keep
> > writing these fat checks out at my expense.
> >
> > I don't mean to come off as cynical, Matt, but apparently I do. I must
just
> > have a ----ed up writing sense.
> >
> > Jerry

Jerry Newton

I am aware of that..... however, not included in that number is social
security, property tax, sales tax, capital gains tax, gasoline tax.........
don't think about it too much, you will want to slash your wrists.

Jerry



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40A6A6F9.6D85D16B@***.net...
> The top federal tax bracket is thirty five percent.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > If you are talking about a flat tax with no exemptions, then I am on
board
> > with you. Where do I sign up? 10% beats the hell out of the 50% that I
> > currently pay. I wish I could get my hands on the bastards that keep
> > writing these fat checks out at my expense.
> >
> > I don't mean to come off as cynical, Matt, but apparently I do. I must
just
> > have a ----ed up writing sense.
> >
> > Jerry

Charlie

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> The top federal tax bracket is thirty five percent.

Yes, BUT, after you add state taxes, sales tax, license taxes, estate taxes,
permits for this, fees for that, and in some areas county taxes plus city
taxes, etc, etc, etc. It can go to 50 percent AND MORE in some cases. Just
look at gas taxes for example. I don't know about other states but here in
Arizona that's about 35 cents a gallon.

Taxes are WAY out if line. A straight sales tax of 10 percent or 15 percent
or whatever works out to be fair percentage would be a much better deal for
everyone. And by a "fair percentage" I don't mean what they think they can
gouge us for. I mean what is the least they really have to have to run the
government. (Which is already WAY too big!)



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