Like I needed another reason not to trust a dealership...
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Re: Like I needed another reason not to trust a dealership...
On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
wrote:
>
>"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
>> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
>
>You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the Chinese.
>Liberal much?
Two more false assumptions.
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>
>"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
>> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
>
>You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the Chinese.
>Liberal much?
Two more false assumptions.
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Re: Like I needed another reason not to trust a dealership...
"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
> >
> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
Chinese.
> >Liberal much?
>
> Two more false assumptions.
Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
out of you. Have a nice day.
Jerry
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Re: Like I needed another reason not to trust a dealership...
"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
> >
> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
Chinese.
> >Liberal much?
>
> Two more false assumptions.
Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
out of you. Have a nice day.
Jerry
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Re: Like I needed another reason not to trust a dealership...
"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
> >
> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
Chinese.
> >Liberal much?
>
> Two more false assumptions.
Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
out of you. Have a nice day.
Jerry
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Re: Like I needed another reason not to trust a dealership...
"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
> >
> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
Chinese.
> >Liberal much?
>
> Two more false assumptions.
Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
out of you. Have a nice day.
Jerry
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Re: Like I needed another reason not to trust a dealership...
On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:46:19 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
wrote:
>
>"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:facaa0tc1g42t0ejf89hgtg9og6vsj477m@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
>> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
>> >
>> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
>Chinese.
>> >Liberal much?
>>
>> Two more false assumptions.
>
>Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
>out of you. Have a nice day.
I thought you'd never ask. Roughly 28% of American farm land is
planted in soybeans. The Chinese are the largest importer of American
soybeans (286 million bushels in 2004). Those farmers certainly gain
by trade with China.
American soybeans:
http://www.asasoya.org/
China's soybean imports:
http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/news...-China-Strong/
US is the second largest exporter to China behind only Japan. We do
import more from China than we sell, but the Chinese market is growing
and our exports are growing with it.
US/Chinese import/export numbers
http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
Not all Americans can afford the cost of US made products, especially
if they are no better than cheaper Chinese imports.
Free trade generates more jobs for the US than it loses. They are
different jobs, more of them are in the service sector than in
manufacturing, but they pay better and are more interesting.
We can close our borders to free trade, but we will lose the jobs
anyway and will end up paying more for the goods we manufacture here.
wrote:
>
>"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:facaa0tc1g42t0ejf89hgtg9og6vsj477m@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
>> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
>> >
>> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
>Chinese.
>> >Liberal much?
>>
>> Two more false assumptions.
>
>Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
>out of you. Have a nice day.
I thought you'd never ask. Roughly 28% of American farm land is
planted in soybeans. The Chinese are the largest importer of American
soybeans (286 million bushels in 2004). Those farmers certainly gain
by trade with China.
American soybeans:
http://www.asasoya.org/
China's soybean imports:
http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/news...-China-Strong/
US is the second largest exporter to China behind only Japan. We do
import more from China than we sell, but the Chinese market is growing
and our exports are growing with it.
US/Chinese import/export numbers
http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
Not all Americans can afford the cost of US made products, especially
if they are no better than cheaper Chinese imports.
Free trade generates more jobs for the US than it loses. They are
different jobs, more of them are in the service sector than in
manufacturing, but they pay better and are more interesting.
We can close our borders to free trade, but we will lose the jobs
anyway and will end up paying more for the goods we manufacture here.
Guest
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Re: Like I needed another reason not to trust a dealership...
On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:46:19 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
wrote:
>
>"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:facaa0tc1g42t0ejf89hgtg9og6vsj477m@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
>> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
>> >
>> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
>Chinese.
>> >Liberal much?
>>
>> Two more false assumptions.
>
>Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
>out of you. Have a nice day.
I thought you'd never ask. Roughly 28% of American farm land is
planted in soybeans. The Chinese are the largest importer of American
soybeans (286 million bushels in 2004). Those farmers certainly gain
by trade with China.
American soybeans:
http://www.asasoya.org/
China's soybean imports:
http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/news...-China-Strong/
US is the second largest exporter to China behind only Japan. We do
import more from China than we sell, but the Chinese market is growing
and our exports are growing with it.
US/Chinese import/export numbers
http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
Not all Americans can afford the cost of US made products, especially
if they are no better than cheaper Chinese imports.
Free trade generates more jobs for the US than it loses. They are
different jobs, more of them are in the service sector than in
manufacturing, but they pay better and are more interesting.
We can close our borders to free trade, but we will lose the jobs
anyway and will end up paying more for the goods we manufacture here.
wrote:
>
>"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:facaa0tc1g42t0ejf89hgtg9og6vsj477m@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
>> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
>> >
>> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
>Chinese.
>> >Liberal much?
>>
>> Two more false assumptions.
>
>Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
>out of you. Have a nice day.
I thought you'd never ask. Roughly 28% of American farm land is
planted in soybeans. The Chinese are the largest importer of American
soybeans (286 million bushels in 2004). Those farmers certainly gain
by trade with China.
American soybeans:
http://www.asasoya.org/
China's soybean imports:
http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/news...-China-Strong/
US is the second largest exporter to China behind only Japan. We do
import more from China than we sell, but the Chinese market is growing
and our exports are growing with it.
US/Chinese import/export numbers
http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
Not all Americans can afford the cost of US made products, especially
if they are no better than cheaper Chinese imports.
Free trade generates more jobs for the US than it loses. They are
different jobs, more of them are in the service sector than in
manufacturing, but they pay better and are more interesting.
We can close our borders to free trade, but we will lose the jobs
anyway and will end up paying more for the goods we manufacture here.
Guest
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Re: Like I needed another reason not to trust a dealership...
On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:46:19 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
wrote:
>
>"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:facaa0tc1g42t0ejf89hgtg9og6vsj477m@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
>> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
>> >
>> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
>Chinese.
>> >Liberal much?
>>
>> Two more false assumptions.
>
>Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
>out of you. Have a nice day.
I thought you'd never ask. Roughly 28% of American farm land is
planted in soybeans. The Chinese are the largest importer of American
soybeans (286 million bushels in 2004). Those farmers certainly gain
by trade with China.
American soybeans:
http://www.asasoya.org/
China's soybean imports:
http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/news...-China-Strong/
US is the second largest exporter to China behind only Japan. We do
import more from China than we sell, but the Chinese market is growing
and our exports are growing with it.
US/Chinese import/export numbers
http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
Not all Americans can afford the cost of US made products, especially
if they are no better than cheaper Chinese imports.
Free trade generates more jobs for the US than it loses. They are
different jobs, more of them are in the service sector than in
manufacturing, but they pay better and are more interesting.
We can close our borders to free trade, but we will lose the jobs
anyway and will end up paying more for the goods we manufacture here.
wrote:
>
>"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:facaa0tc1g42t0ejf89hgtg9og6vsj477m@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
>> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
>> >
>> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
>Chinese.
>> >Liberal much?
>>
>> Two more false assumptions.
>
>Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
>out of you. Have a nice day.
I thought you'd never ask. Roughly 28% of American farm land is
planted in soybeans. The Chinese are the largest importer of American
soybeans (286 million bushels in 2004). Those farmers certainly gain
by trade with China.
American soybeans:
http://www.asasoya.org/
China's soybean imports:
http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/news...-China-Strong/
US is the second largest exporter to China behind only Japan. We do
import more from China than we sell, but the Chinese market is growing
and our exports are growing with it.
US/Chinese import/export numbers
http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
Not all Americans can afford the cost of US made products, especially
if they are no better than cheaper Chinese imports.
Free trade generates more jobs for the US than it loses. They are
different jobs, more of them are in the service sector than in
manufacturing, but they pay better and are more interesting.
We can close our borders to free trade, but we will lose the jobs
anyway and will end up paying more for the goods we manufacture here.
Guest
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Re: Like I needed another reason not to trust a dealership...
On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:46:19 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
wrote:
>
>"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:facaa0tc1g42t0ejf89hgtg9og6vsj477m@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
>> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
>> >
>> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
>Chinese.
>> >Liberal much?
>>
>> Two more false assumptions.
>
>Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
>out of you. Have a nice day.
I thought you'd never ask. Roughly 28% of American farm land is
planted in soybeans. The Chinese are the largest importer of American
soybeans (286 million bushels in 2004). Those farmers certainly gain
by trade with China.
American soybeans:
http://www.asasoya.org/
China's soybean imports:
http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/news...-China-Strong/
US is the second largest exporter to China behind only Japan. We do
import more from China than we sell, but the Chinese market is growing
and our exports are growing with it.
US/Chinese import/export numbers
http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
Not all Americans can afford the cost of US made products, especially
if they are no better than cheaper Chinese imports.
Free trade generates more jobs for the US than it loses. They are
different jobs, more of them are in the service sector than in
manufacturing, but they pay better and are more interesting.
We can close our borders to free trade, but we will lose the jobs
anyway and will end up paying more for the goods we manufacture here.
wrote:
>
>"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:facaa0tc1g42t0ejf89hgtg9og6vsj477m@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
>> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
>> >
>> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
>Chinese.
>> >Liberal much?
>>
>> Two more false assumptions.
>
>Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat it
>out of you. Have a nice day.
I thought you'd never ask. Roughly 28% of American farm land is
planted in soybeans. The Chinese are the largest importer of American
soybeans (286 million bushels in 2004). Those farmers certainly gain
by trade with China.
American soybeans:
http://www.asasoya.org/
China's soybean imports:
http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/news...-China-Strong/
US is the second largest exporter to China behind only Japan. We do
import more from China than we sell, but the Chinese market is growing
and our exports are growing with it.
US/Chinese import/export numbers
http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
Not all Americans can afford the cost of US made products, especially
if they are no better than cheaper Chinese imports.
Free trade generates more jobs for the US than it loses. They are
different jobs, more of them are in the service sector than in
manufacturing, but they pay better and are more interesting.
We can close our borders to free trade, but we will lose the jobs
anyway and will end up paying more for the goods we manufacture here.
Guest
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Re: Like I needed another reason not to trust a dealership...
US subsidies to soybean farmers equal $11,000,000,000 (yes, billion) from
1995-2002. Source: USDA. Maybe you can explain to me why I need to pay
our farmers to grow soybeans to sell to China.
Jerry
"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:5o5ba0dauvcecuevht3oqt9ir5fq6ri5ri@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:46:19 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >news:facaa0tc1g42t0ejf89hgtg9og6vsj477m@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
> >> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
> >> >
> >> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
> >Chinese.
> >> >Liberal much?
> >>
> >> Two more false assumptions.
> >
> >Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat
it
> >out of you. Have a nice day.
>
> I thought you'd never ask. Roughly 28% of American farm land is
> planted in soybeans. The Chinese are the largest importer of American
> soybeans (286 million bushels in 2004). Those farmers certainly gain
> by trade with China.
>
> American soybeans:
> http://www.asasoya.org/
>
> China's soybean imports:
> http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/news...-China-Strong/
>
> US is the second largest exporter to China behind only Japan. We do
> import more from China than we sell, but the Chinese market is growing
> and our exports are growing with it.
>
> US/Chinese import/export numbers
> http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
>
> Not all Americans can afford the cost of US made products, especially
> if they are no better than cheaper Chinese imports.
>
> Free trade generates more jobs for the US than it loses. They are
> different jobs, more of them are in the service sector than in
> manufacturing, but they pay better and are more interesting.
>
> We can close our borders to free trade, but we will lose the jobs
> anyway and will end up paying more for the goods we manufacture here.
1995-2002. Source: USDA. Maybe you can explain to me why I need to pay
our farmers to grow soybeans to sell to China.
Jerry
"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:5o5ba0dauvcecuevht3oqt9ir5fq6ri5ri@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:46:19 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >news:facaa0tc1g42t0ejf89hgtg9og6vsj477m@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:18:01 -0400, "Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:4bd8a01l2e8540ucikuqti8ruljvf99lia@4ax.com.. .
> >> >> You seem to be convinced that we can't do both.
> >> >
> >> >You seem to have the opinion that it is my job to give money to the
> >Chinese.
> >> >Liberal much?
> >>
> >> Two more false assumptions.
> >
> >Well, if you aren't going to state your opinion, I am not going to beat
it
> >out of you. Have a nice day.
>
> I thought you'd never ask. Roughly 28% of American farm land is
> planted in soybeans. The Chinese are the largest importer of American
> soybeans (286 million bushels in 2004). Those farmers certainly gain
> by trade with China.
>
> American soybeans:
> http://www.asasoya.org/
>
> China's soybean imports:
> http://cornandsoybeandigest.com/news...-China-Strong/
>
> US is the second largest exporter to China behind only Japan. We do
> import more from China than we sell, but the Chinese market is growing
> and our exports are growing with it.
>
> US/Chinese import/export numbers
> http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
>
> Not all Americans can afford the cost of US made products, especially
> if they are no better than cheaper Chinese imports.
>
> Free trade generates more jobs for the US than it loses. They are
> different jobs, more of them are in the service sector than in
> manufacturing, but they pay better and are more interesting.
>
> We can close our borders to free trade, but we will lose the jobs
> anyway and will end up paying more for the goods we manufacture here.
