lifting an all wheel drive vehicle
#11
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: lifting an all wheel drive vehicle
<kmattes@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:1176653418.973125.3300@p77g2000hsh.googlegrou ps.com...
> On Apr 14, 2:32 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > We are Jeep people, and most of us have lifted Jeeps. If you are looking
for
> > something in the range of 2 inches, I can't think of any potential
problems.
> > If you are think more in terms of 4+ inches, then you need to consider
the
> > impact on differential angles, driveshaft length, steering geometry, and
a
> > host of things in the same vein.
> >
> > Lots of Jeep drivers put in 2 inches of suspension lift (longer springs
and
> > related parts) and an inch of body lift. Body lift is accomplished by
> > installing longer body mounting bolts and rubber cushions. The lft kits
are
> > sold in sets that include all of the stuff that is commonly needed.
There
> > are occasions where vibrations develop, and we usually have a solution.
> >
> > Your tire selection can have an affect on your speedometer. This is
remedied
> > by replacing a small plastic gear that is mounted to the
> > transmission/transfer case. The next gear you need is easily calculated,
and
> > the gear costs typically in the range of $10. If you have the work done
by a
> > shop, they should install the new gear as part of the service they are
> > providing.
> >
> > You will want to take you Dakota somewhere where they install this sort
of
> > stuff and get some input from them.
> >
> > <kmat...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1176566010.014637.181720@o5g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > I have a 2001 Dodge Dakota with all wheel drive. I was considering
> > > installing a lift kit and slightly oversized tires on it for more
> > > ground clearance. Has anyone heard of any potential issues with doing
> > > this. My concern is that it may negatively impact the way the all
> > > wheel drive performs. I would like to hear from someone with
> > > experience with this.
> > > Thanks for any feedback.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
People with experience with this are not likely to hang out in this
newsgroup, but there is no reason that lifting suspension would confuse your
awd system. If you don't do it right, it might stress your drive shaft and
wear out your cv joints, but that is a different issue, eh? Big tires, on
the other hand, are likely to confuse things unless you get your speedometer
recalibrated. If you do that, all should be fine. Also consider that big
tires will change your shift points and the torque on your axles. That
could have a negative or positive effect on your fuel economy, depending on
which gear ratio you have now.
Earle
Earle
news:1176653418.973125.3300@p77g2000hsh.googlegrou ps.com...
> On Apr 14, 2:32 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > We are Jeep people, and most of us have lifted Jeeps. If you are looking
for
> > something in the range of 2 inches, I can't think of any potential
problems.
> > If you are think more in terms of 4+ inches, then you need to consider
the
> > impact on differential angles, driveshaft length, steering geometry, and
a
> > host of things in the same vein.
> >
> > Lots of Jeep drivers put in 2 inches of suspension lift (longer springs
and
> > related parts) and an inch of body lift. Body lift is accomplished by
> > installing longer body mounting bolts and rubber cushions. The lft kits
are
> > sold in sets that include all of the stuff that is commonly needed.
There
> > are occasions where vibrations develop, and we usually have a solution.
> >
> > Your tire selection can have an affect on your speedometer. This is
remedied
> > by replacing a small plastic gear that is mounted to the
> > transmission/transfer case. The next gear you need is easily calculated,
and
> > the gear costs typically in the range of $10. If you have the work done
by a
> > shop, they should install the new gear as part of the service they are
> > providing.
> >
> > You will want to take you Dakota somewhere where they install this sort
of
> > stuff and get some input from them.
> >
> > <kmat...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1176566010.014637.181720@o5g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > I have a 2001 Dodge Dakota with all wheel drive. I was considering
> > > installing a lift kit and slightly oversized tires on it for more
> > > ground clearance. Has anyone heard of any potential issues with doing
> > > this. My concern is that it may negatively impact the way the all
> > > wheel drive performs. I would like to hear from someone with
> > > experience with this.
> > > Thanks for any feedback.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
People with experience with this are not likely to hang out in this
newsgroup, but there is no reason that lifting suspension would confuse your
awd system. If you don't do it right, it might stress your drive shaft and
wear out your cv joints, but that is a different issue, eh? Big tires, on
the other hand, are likely to confuse things unless you get your speedometer
recalibrated. If you do that, all should be fine. Also consider that big
tires will change your shift points and the torque on your axles. That
could have a negative or positive effect on your fuel economy, depending on
which gear ratio you have now.
Earle
Earle
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: lifting an all wheel drive vehicle
<kmattes@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:1176653418.973125.3300@p77g2000hsh.googlegrou ps.com...
> On Apr 14, 2:32 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > We are Jeep people, and most of us have lifted Jeeps. If you are looking
for
> > something in the range of 2 inches, I can't think of any potential
problems.
> > If you are think more in terms of 4+ inches, then you need to consider
the
> > impact on differential angles, driveshaft length, steering geometry, and
a
> > host of things in the same vein.
> >
> > Lots of Jeep drivers put in 2 inches of suspension lift (longer springs
and
> > related parts) and an inch of body lift. Body lift is accomplished by
> > installing longer body mounting bolts and rubber cushions. The lft kits
are
> > sold in sets that include all of the stuff that is commonly needed.
There
> > are occasions where vibrations develop, and we usually have a solution.
> >
> > Your tire selection can have an affect on your speedometer. This is
remedied
> > by replacing a small plastic gear that is mounted to the
> > transmission/transfer case. The next gear you need is easily calculated,
and
> > the gear costs typically in the range of $10. If you have the work done
by a
> > shop, they should install the new gear as part of the service they are
> > providing.
> >
> > You will want to take you Dakota somewhere where they install this sort
of
> > stuff and get some input from them.
> >
> > <kmat...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1176566010.014637.181720@o5g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > I have a 2001 Dodge Dakota with all wheel drive. I was considering
> > > installing a lift kit and slightly oversized tires on it for more
> > > ground clearance. Has anyone heard of any potential issues with doing
> > > this. My concern is that it may negatively impact the way the all
> > > wheel drive performs. I would like to hear from someone with
> > > experience with this.
> > > Thanks for any feedback.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
People with experience with this are not likely to hang out in this
newsgroup, but there is no reason that lifting suspension would confuse your
awd system. If you don't do it right, it might stress your drive shaft and
wear out your cv joints, but that is a different issue, eh? Big tires, on
the other hand, are likely to confuse things unless you get your speedometer
recalibrated. If you do that, all should be fine. Also consider that big
tires will change your shift points and the torque on your axles. That
could have a negative or positive effect on your fuel economy, depending on
which gear ratio you have now.
Earle
Earle
news:1176653418.973125.3300@p77g2000hsh.googlegrou ps.com...
> On Apr 14, 2:32 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > We are Jeep people, and most of us have lifted Jeeps. If you are looking
for
> > something in the range of 2 inches, I can't think of any potential
problems.
> > If you are think more in terms of 4+ inches, then you need to consider
the
> > impact on differential angles, driveshaft length, steering geometry, and
a
> > host of things in the same vein.
> >
> > Lots of Jeep drivers put in 2 inches of suspension lift (longer springs
and
> > related parts) and an inch of body lift. Body lift is accomplished by
> > installing longer body mounting bolts and rubber cushions. The lft kits
are
> > sold in sets that include all of the stuff that is commonly needed.
There
> > are occasions where vibrations develop, and we usually have a solution.
> >
> > Your tire selection can have an affect on your speedometer. This is
remedied
> > by replacing a small plastic gear that is mounted to the
> > transmission/transfer case. The next gear you need is easily calculated,
and
> > the gear costs typically in the range of $10. If you have the work done
by a
> > shop, they should install the new gear as part of the service they are
> > providing.
> >
> > You will want to take you Dakota somewhere where they install this sort
of
> > stuff and get some input from them.
> >
> > <kmat...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1176566010.014637.181720@o5g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > I have a 2001 Dodge Dakota with all wheel drive. I was considering
> > > installing a lift kit and slightly oversized tires on it for more
> > > ground clearance. Has anyone heard of any potential issues with doing
> > > this. My concern is that it may negatively impact the way the all
> > > wheel drive performs. I would like to hear from someone with
> > > experience with this.
> > > Thanks for any feedback.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
People with experience with this are not likely to hang out in this
newsgroup, but there is no reason that lifting suspension would confuse your
awd system. If you don't do it right, it might stress your drive shaft and
wear out your cv joints, but that is a different issue, eh? Big tires, on
the other hand, are likely to confuse things unless you get your speedometer
recalibrated. If you do that, all should be fine. Also consider that big
tires will change your shift points and the torque on your axles. That
could have a negative or positive effect on your fuel economy, depending on
which gear ratio you have now.
Earle
Earle
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: lifting an all wheel drive vehicle
kmattes@netzero.net wrote:
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
with 4WD systems that manually engage.
My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
discussions we've had.
Good luck,
tw
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
with 4WD systems that manually engage.
My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
discussions we've had.
Good luck,
tw
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: lifting an all wheel drive vehicle
kmattes@netzero.net wrote:
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
with 4WD systems that manually engage.
My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
discussions we've had.
Good luck,
tw
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
with 4WD systems that manually engage.
My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
discussions we've had.
Good luck,
tw
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: lifting an all wheel drive vehicle
kmattes@netzero.net wrote:
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
with 4WD systems that manually engage.
My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
discussions we've had.
Good luck,
tw
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
with 4WD systems that manually engage.
My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
discussions we've had.
Good luck,
tw
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: lifting an all wheel drive vehicle
kmattes@netzero.net wrote:
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
with 4WD systems that manually engage.
My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
discussions we've had.
Good luck,
tw
> With that understood. All wheel drive is different in 4 wheel drive in
> that the front wheels will engage when the rear wheels slip during
> normal driving(4x4 off). The question is can lifting suspension or
> oversizing tires confuse or cause problems with that system? All wheel
> drive is also available to the cherokee model Jeeps.
>
I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
with 4WD systems that manually engage.
My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
discussions we've had.
Good luck,
tw
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: lifting an all wheel drive vehicle
That should read, "..have a separate lift for an AWD..."
twaldron wrote:
> I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
> vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
> Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
> Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
> with 4WD systems that manually engage.
>
> My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
> and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
> best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
> you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
> group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
> discussions we've had.
>
> Good luck,
> tw
twaldron wrote:
> I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
> vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
> Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
> Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
> with 4WD systems that manually engage.
>
> My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
> and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
> best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
> you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
> group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
> discussions we've had.
>
> Good luck,
> tw
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: lifting an all wheel drive vehicle
That should read, "..have a separate lift for an AWD..."
twaldron wrote:
> I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
> vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
> Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
> Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
> with 4WD systems that manually engage.
>
> My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
> and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
> best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
> you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
> group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
> discussions we've had.
>
> Good luck,
> tw
twaldron wrote:
> I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
> vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
> Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
> Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
> with 4WD systems that manually engage.
>
> My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
> and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
> best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
> you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
> group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
> discussions we've had.
>
> Good luck,
> tw
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: lifting an all wheel drive vehicle
That should read, "..have a separate lift for an AWD..."
twaldron wrote:
> I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
> vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
> Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
> Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
> with 4WD systems that manually engage.
>
> My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
> and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
> best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
> you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
> group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
> discussions we've had.
>
> Good luck,
> tw
twaldron wrote:
> I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
> vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
> Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
> Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
> with 4WD systems that manually engage.
>
> My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
> and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
> best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
> you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
> group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
> discussions we've had.
>
> Good luck,
> tw
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: lifting an all wheel drive vehicle
That should read, "..have a separate lift for an AWD..."
twaldron wrote:
> I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
> vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
> Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
> Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
> with 4WD systems that manually engage.
>
> My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
> and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
> best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
> you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
> group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
> discussions we've had.
>
> Good luck,
> tw
twaldron wrote:
> I think your challenge is finding a group of AWD folks that lift
> vehicles, specifically Dakotas. My guess is that most people with AWD
> Grand Cherokees aren't the lifting type, so your sources will be slim.
> Most people who want lifts, wheel. Most of those folks want solid axles
> with 4WD systems that manually engage.
>
> My suggestion is to find the lift manufacturer of choice for the Dakota
> and see if they HAVE a lift for an AWD version. If so, they will be the
> best source for any concerns you have. We seem to be telling you that
> you are barking up the wrong tree, but keep at it, I guess. Try a google
> group search on this NG and it will bring up all the AWD/lift
> discussions we've had.
>
> Good luck,
> tw