Lifted Libby
11-02-2005, 06:22 PM
#31
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Re: Lifted Libby
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
: You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
: act:
:
http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
**I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
(except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
: For an explanation:
: http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
:
: That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
: 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
**That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with pride,
FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
still very serious.
:
: I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
**All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without voiding
the warranty, not a suspension lift.
I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
approved, to let him know.
:
: I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
: like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come up
with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
KJK
11-02-2005, 06:49 PM
#32
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Posts: n/a
Re: Lifted Libby
Daystar has a couple Libby lift kits. you can just go with polyurethane
coil spacers or replacement struts and coil springs in varying heights.
For example: Their catalogue came the other day
http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/produ...ension&man=DAY
Some dealerships are more tolerant than others and some will look the other
way if they do the lifting without warranty worries. It doesn't hurt to
ask.
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
coil spacers or replacement struts and coil springs in varying heights.
For example: Their catalogue came the other day
http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/produ...ension&man=DAY
Some dealerships are more tolerant than others and some will look the other
way if they do the lifting without warranty worries. It doesn't hurt to
ask.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
11-02-2005, 06:49 PM
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: Lifted Libby
Daystar has a couple Libby lift kits. you can just go with polyurethane
coil spacers or replacement struts and coil springs in varying heights.
For example: Their catalogue came the other day
http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/produ...ension&man=DAY
Some dealerships are more tolerant than others and some will look the other
way if they do the lifting without warranty worries. It doesn't hurt to
ask.
--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
coil spacers or replacement struts and coil springs in varying heights.
For example: Their catalogue came the other day
http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/produ...ension&man=DAY
Some dealerships are more tolerant than others and some will look the other
way if they do the lifting without warranty worries. It doesn't hurt to
ask.
--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
11-02-2005, 06:49 PM
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lifted Libby
Daystar has a couple Libby lift kits. you can just go with polyurethane
coil spacers or replacement struts and coil springs in varying heights.
For example: Their catalogue came the other day
http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/produ...ension&man=DAY
Some dealerships are more tolerant than others and some will look the other
way if they do the lifting without warranty worries. It doesn't hurt to
ask.
--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
coil spacers or replacement struts and coil springs in varying heights.
For example: Their catalogue came the other day
http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/produ...ension&man=DAY
Some dealerships are more tolerant than others and some will look the other
way if they do the lifting without warranty worries. It doesn't hurt to
ask.
--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
11-02-2005, 06:53 PM
#35
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Re: Lifted Libby
Who told you that, the dealer?
End-user modifications are NOT grounds for voiding the entire warranty on a
vehicle. For instance, the dealer can't void the warranty on the radio if
your radio craps out after you installed a lift.
Now, they may have grounds for voiding the warranty if the modification
caused the failure...say if you installed a lift and larger tires and the
transmission pukes. But it's their responsibility to prove the modification
caused the failure. They will hem and haw and figure most people won't
pursue it.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:CfW9f.34313$ty1.25352@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:6jbgm1120efq6g731kvi4b57mbnk78g0jv@4ax.com...
> :I saw a Libby in a parking lot this evening, it had aprox a 4-5" lift on
> it. Also
> : Bigger and more agressive tires. Suprisingly, it didnt look half bad
> like
> that.
> : Granted a nice splash of mud here and there would have done a lot for it
> too...
>
> Did you know, that anything other than a body lift voids the warranty?
> *&^%$#@!!!
>
> KJK
>
>
End-user modifications are NOT grounds for voiding the entire warranty on a
vehicle. For instance, the dealer can't void the warranty on the radio if
your radio craps out after you installed a lift.
Now, they may have grounds for voiding the warranty if the modification
caused the failure...say if you installed a lift and larger tires and the
transmission pukes. But it's their responsibility to prove the modification
caused the failure. They will hem and haw and figure most people won't
pursue it.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:CfW9f.34313$ty1.25352@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:6jbgm1120efq6g731kvi4b57mbnk78g0jv@4ax.com...
> :I saw a Libby in a parking lot this evening, it had aprox a 4-5" lift on
> it. Also
> : Bigger and more agressive tires. Suprisingly, it didnt look half bad
> like
> that.
> : Granted a nice splash of mud here and there would have done a lot for it
> too...
>
> Did you know, that anything other than a body lift voids the warranty?
> *&^%$#@!!!
>
> KJK
>
>
11-02-2005, 06:53 PM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lifted Libby
Who told you that, the dealer?
End-user modifications are NOT grounds for voiding the entire warranty on a
vehicle. For instance, the dealer can't void the warranty on the radio if
your radio craps out after you installed a lift.
Now, they may have grounds for voiding the warranty if the modification
caused the failure...say if you installed a lift and larger tires and the
transmission pukes. But it's their responsibility to prove the modification
caused the failure. They will hem and haw and figure most people won't
pursue it.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:CfW9f.34313$ty1.25352@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:6jbgm1120efq6g731kvi4b57mbnk78g0jv@4ax.com...
> :I saw a Libby in a parking lot this evening, it had aprox a 4-5" lift on
> it. Also
> : Bigger and more agressive tires. Suprisingly, it didnt look half bad
> like
> that.
> : Granted a nice splash of mud here and there would have done a lot for it
> too...
>
> Did you know, that anything other than a body lift voids the warranty?
> *&^%$#@!!!
>
> KJK
>
>
End-user modifications are NOT grounds for voiding the entire warranty on a
vehicle. For instance, the dealer can't void the warranty on the radio if
your radio craps out after you installed a lift.
Now, they may have grounds for voiding the warranty if the modification
caused the failure...say if you installed a lift and larger tires and the
transmission pukes. But it's their responsibility to prove the modification
caused the failure. They will hem and haw and figure most people won't
pursue it.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:CfW9f.34313$ty1.25352@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:6jbgm1120efq6g731kvi4b57mbnk78g0jv@4ax.com...
> :I saw a Libby in a parking lot this evening, it had aprox a 4-5" lift on
> it. Also
> : Bigger and more agressive tires. Suprisingly, it didnt look half bad
> like
> that.
> : Granted a nice splash of mud here and there would have done a lot for it
> too...
>
> Did you know, that anything other than a body lift voids the warranty?
> *&^%$#@!!!
>
> KJK
>
>
11-02-2005, 06:53 PM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lifted Libby
Who told you that, the dealer?
End-user modifications are NOT grounds for voiding the entire warranty on a
vehicle. For instance, the dealer can't void the warranty on the radio if
your radio craps out after you installed a lift.
Now, they may have grounds for voiding the warranty if the modification
caused the failure...say if you installed a lift and larger tires and the
transmission pukes. But it's their responsibility to prove the modification
caused the failure. They will hem and haw and figure most people won't
pursue it.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:CfW9f.34313$ty1.25352@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:6jbgm1120efq6g731kvi4b57mbnk78g0jv@4ax.com...
> :I saw a Libby in a parking lot this evening, it had aprox a 4-5" lift on
> it. Also
> : Bigger and more agressive tires. Suprisingly, it didnt look half bad
> like
> that.
> : Granted a nice splash of mud here and there would have done a lot for it
> too...
>
> Did you know, that anything other than a body lift voids the warranty?
> *&^%$#@!!!
>
> KJK
>
>
End-user modifications are NOT grounds for voiding the entire warranty on a
vehicle. For instance, the dealer can't void the warranty on the radio if
your radio craps out after you installed a lift.
Now, they may have grounds for voiding the warranty if the modification
caused the failure...say if you installed a lift and larger tires and the
transmission pukes. But it's their responsibility to prove the modification
caused the failure. They will hem and haw and figure most people won't
pursue it.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:CfW9f.34313$ty1.25352@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:6jbgm1120efq6g731kvi4b57mbnk78g0jv@4ax.com...
> :I saw a Libby in a parking lot this evening, it had aprox a 4-5" lift on
> it. Also
> : Bigger and more agressive tires. Suprisingly, it didnt look half bad
> like
> that.
> : Granted a nice splash of mud here and there would have done a lot for it
> too...
>
> Did you know, that anything other than a body lift voids the warranty?
> *&^%$#@!!!
>
> KJK
>
>
11-02-2005, 07:01 PM
#38
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Re: Lifted Libby
Your service manager is full of horse poop. The KJ is a unit body
vehicle...the only way to lift is is through a suspension lift. And he's
either ignorant of the Magnusson Moss act or he's lying. Probably both.
I had issue with D-C when the NV3550 manual tranny came out and the manuals
said only Mopar brand transmission fluid can be used or the warranty would
be voided on the tranny. The way I understood it, if the manufacturer
requires only their products for maintenance of the vehicle and specifically
forbids aftermarket maintenance products, they have to provide those
products free of charge. When I pointed this out to D-C customer service,
they basically told me to have intercourse with myself.
I even contacted New Venture Gear about it, they sent me the specs on the
fluid. Since then an aftermarket product has come out, and meets the specs.
Point being, I think they will fight it tooth and nail if the issue comes
up.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
vehicle...the only way to lift is is through a suspension lift. And he's
either ignorant of the Magnusson Moss act or he's lying. Probably both.
I had issue with D-C when the NV3550 manual tranny came out and the manuals
said only Mopar brand transmission fluid can be used or the warranty would
be voided on the tranny. The way I understood it, if the manufacturer
requires only their products for maintenance of the vehicle and specifically
forbids aftermarket maintenance products, they have to provide those
products free of charge. When I pointed this out to D-C customer service,
they basically told me to have intercourse with myself.
I even contacted New Venture Gear about it, they sent me the specs on the
fluid. Since then an aftermarket product has come out, and meets the specs.
Point being, I think they will fight it tooth and nail if the issue comes
up.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
11-02-2005, 07:01 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lifted Libby
Your service manager is full of horse poop. The KJ is a unit body
vehicle...the only way to lift is is through a suspension lift. And he's
either ignorant of the Magnusson Moss act or he's lying. Probably both.
I had issue with D-C when the NV3550 manual tranny came out and the manuals
said only Mopar brand transmission fluid can be used or the warranty would
be voided on the tranny. The way I understood it, if the manufacturer
requires only their products for maintenance of the vehicle and specifically
forbids aftermarket maintenance products, they have to provide those
products free of charge. When I pointed this out to D-C customer service,
they basically told me to have intercourse with myself.
I even contacted New Venture Gear about it, they sent me the specs on the
fluid. Since then an aftermarket product has come out, and meets the specs.
Point being, I think they will fight it tooth and nail if the issue comes
up.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
vehicle...the only way to lift is is through a suspension lift. And he's
either ignorant of the Magnusson Moss act or he's lying. Probably both.
I had issue with D-C when the NV3550 manual tranny came out and the manuals
said only Mopar brand transmission fluid can be used or the warranty would
be voided on the tranny. The way I understood it, if the manufacturer
requires only their products for maintenance of the vehicle and specifically
forbids aftermarket maintenance products, they have to provide those
products free of charge. When I pointed this out to D-C customer service,
they basically told me to have intercourse with myself.
I even contacted New Venture Gear about it, they sent me the specs on the
fluid. Since then an aftermarket product has come out, and meets the specs.
Point being, I think they will fight it tooth and nail if the issue comes
up.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
11-02-2005, 07:01 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lifted Libby
Your service manager is full of horse poop. The KJ is a unit body
vehicle...the only way to lift is is through a suspension lift. And he's
either ignorant of the Magnusson Moss act or he's lying. Probably both.
I had issue with D-C when the NV3550 manual tranny came out and the manuals
said only Mopar brand transmission fluid can be used or the warranty would
be voided on the tranny. The way I understood it, if the manufacturer
requires only their products for maintenance of the vehicle and specifically
forbids aftermarket maintenance products, they have to provide those
products free of charge. When I pointed this out to D-C customer service,
they basically told me to have intercourse with myself.
I even contacted New Venture Gear about it, they sent me the specs on the
fluid. Since then an aftermarket product has come out, and meets the specs.
Point being, I think they will fight it tooth and nail if the issue comes
up.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
vehicle...the only way to lift is is through a suspension lift. And he's
either ignorant of the Magnusson Moss act or he's lying. Probably both.
I had issue with D-C when the NV3550 manual tranny came out and the manuals
said only Mopar brand transmission fluid can be used or the warranty would
be voided on the tranny. The way I understood it, if the manufacturer
requires only their products for maintenance of the vehicle and specifically
forbids aftermarket maintenance products, they have to provide those
products free of charge. When I pointed this out to D-C customer service,
they basically told me to have intercourse with myself.
I even contacted New Venture Gear about it, they sent me the specs on the
fluid. Since then an aftermarket product has come out, and meets the specs.
Point being, I think they will fight it tooth and nail if the issue comes
up.
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:3Rbaf.32666$x6.24997@bignews6.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4368C7A9.AEA64242@sympatico.ca...
> : You are in the USA correct? If so you have the Magnuson Moss Warranty
> : act:
> :
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=magnus...&ie=ISO-8859-1
>
> **I'll have to look. I bought the extended so I am 7/75 bumper to bumer
> (except of course that ONE thing that goes wrong!)
>
> : For an explanation:
> : http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
> :
> : That mean they have to prove the lift caused the damage, not just say
> : 'no warranty'. Lots of TJ owners have found out all about this.
>
> **That's the way Ford does it. This is my first, and I say that with
> pride,
> FIRST mopar..... I don't know how they do battle.
> The service manager was pretty adamant about it though. In good humor, but
> still very serious.
>
> :
> : I also am 'really' curious about a body lift on a Liberty?????
>
> **All I know about it, since I thought it would be a waste of time and
> money, is that the service manager says I can do a body lift without
> voiding
> the warranty, not a suspension lift.
> I talked to him today. he says if I find a way, or a lift that is mopar
> approved, to let him know.
>
> :
> : I was under the impression they have no frame or at the most a uniframe
> : like the Cherokee. This means a body lift doesn't exist.
>
> ** You may be right. I will do more research and let you know what I come
> up
> with. What you are saying makes perfect sense. Not to mention screwing up
> the dynamics of a whole bunch of stuff.
>
> KJK
>
>
