lift questions?
11-08-2006, 06:58 AM
#2
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Re: lift questions?
Did you ask them?
Here in pennsylvania it would fail inspection at a reputable shop. 3"
body and 3" suspension are max.
On 7 Nov 2006 23:19:22 -0800, "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
>professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
>drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
>a drop pitman?
Here in pennsylvania it would fail inspection at a reputable shop. 3"
body and 3" suspension are max.
On 7 Nov 2006 23:19:22 -0800, "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
>professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
>drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
>a drop pitman?
11-08-2006, 06:58 AM
#3
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Re: lift questions?
Did you ask them?
Here in pennsylvania it would fail inspection at a reputable shop. 3"
body and 3" suspension are max.
On 7 Nov 2006 23:19:22 -0800, "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
>professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
>drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
>a drop pitman?
Here in pennsylvania it would fail inspection at a reputable shop. 3"
body and 3" suspension are max.
On 7 Nov 2006 23:19:22 -0800, "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
>professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
>drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
>a drop pitman?
11-08-2006, 06:58 AM
#4
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Posts: n/a
Re: lift questions?
Did you ask them?
Here in pennsylvania it would fail inspection at a reputable shop. 3"
body and 3" suspension are max.
On 7 Nov 2006 23:19:22 -0800, "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
>professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
>drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
>a drop pitman?
Here in pennsylvania it would fail inspection at a reputable shop. 3"
body and 3" suspension are max.
On 7 Nov 2006 23:19:22 -0800, "j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
>professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
>drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
>a drop pitman?
11-08-2006, 10:04 AM
#5
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Re: lift questions?
Well, driving on the street with no sway bar is illegal in most places
because it is a major safety part of the suspension. If you get in an
accident and they inspect the vehicle, you can be denied insurance
coverage for 'intentionally' disabling the safety features of the
suspension and at least up here in Ontario Canada be charged
automatically as the 'at fault' driver in any accident.
I was told by the police and insurance that that could mean the
difference between an 'accident' and vehicular homicide if the accident
is bad enough to kill someone.
Modified vehicles are far more likely to get inspected after an accident
than regular vehicles.
The only reason they didn't hook up all the parts is because the parts
need to be modified so they cost money to do. Either for the brackets
to relocate the track bars or the disconnects for the sway bar links.
Some folks disconnect the sway bar for off road use, but it needs to be
on for the street.
This would lead me to suspect 'every' part of the work that was done....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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j wrote:
>
> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
because it is a major safety part of the suspension. If you get in an
accident and they inspect the vehicle, you can be denied insurance
coverage for 'intentionally' disabling the safety features of the
suspension and at least up here in Ontario Canada be charged
automatically as the 'at fault' driver in any accident.
I was told by the police and insurance that that could mean the
difference between an 'accident' and vehicular homicide if the accident
is bad enough to kill someone.
Modified vehicles are far more likely to get inspected after an accident
than regular vehicles.
The only reason they didn't hook up all the parts is because the parts
need to be modified so they cost money to do. Either for the brackets
to relocate the track bars or the disconnects for the sway bar links.
Some folks disconnect the sway bar for off road use, but it needs to be
on for the street.
This would lead me to suspect 'every' part of the work that was done....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
j wrote:
>
> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
11-08-2006, 10:04 AM
#6
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Posts: n/a
Re: lift questions?
Well, driving on the street with no sway bar is illegal in most places
because it is a major safety part of the suspension. If you get in an
accident and they inspect the vehicle, you can be denied insurance
coverage for 'intentionally' disabling the safety features of the
suspension and at least up here in Ontario Canada be charged
automatically as the 'at fault' driver in any accident.
I was told by the police and insurance that that could mean the
difference between an 'accident' and vehicular homicide if the accident
is bad enough to kill someone.
Modified vehicles are far more likely to get inspected after an accident
than regular vehicles.
The only reason they didn't hook up all the parts is because the parts
need to be modified so they cost money to do. Either for the brackets
to relocate the track bars or the disconnects for the sway bar links.
Some folks disconnect the sway bar for off road use, but it needs to be
on for the street.
This would lead me to suspect 'every' part of the work that was done....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
j wrote:
>
> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
because it is a major safety part of the suspension. If you get in an
accident and they inspect the vehicle, you can be denied insurance
coverage for 'intentionally' disabling the safety features of the
suspension and at least up here in Ontario Canada be charged
automatically as the 'at fault' driver in any accident.
I was told by the police and insurance that that could mean the
difference between an 'accident' and vehicular homicide if the accident
is bad enough to kill someone.
Modified vehicles are far more likely to get inspected after an accident
than regular vehicles.
The only reason they didn't hook up all the parts is because the parts
need to be modified so they cost money to do. Either for the brackets
to relocate the track bars or the disconnects for the sway bar links.
Some folks disconnect the sway bar for off road use, but it needs to be
on for the street.
This would lead me to suspect 'every' part of the work that was done....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
j wrote:
>
> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
11-08-2006, 10:04 AM
#7
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: lift questions?
Well, driving on the street with no sway bar is illegal in most places
because it is a major safety part of the suspension. If you get in an
accident and they inspect the vehicle, you can be denied insurance
coverage for 'intentionally' disabling the safety features of the
suspension and at least up here in Ontario Canada be charged
automatically as the 'at fault' driver in any accident.
I was told by the police and insurance that that could mean the
difference between an 'accident' and vehicular homicide if the accident
is bad enough to kill someone.
Modified vehicles are far more likely to get inspected after an accident
than regular vehicles.
The only reason they didn't hook up all the parts is because the parts
need to be modified so they cost money to do. Either for the brackets
to relocate the track bars or the disconnects for the sway bar links.
Some folks disconnect the sway bar for off road use, but it needs to be
on for the street.
This would lead me to suspect 'every' part of the work that was done....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
j wrote:
>
> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
because it is a major safety part of the suspension. If you get in an
accident and they inspect the vehicle, you can be denied insurance
coverage for 'intentionally' disabling the safety features of the
suspension and at least up here in Ontario Canada be charged
automatically as the 'at fault' driver in any accident.
I was told by the police and insurance that that could mean the
difference between an 'accident' and vehicular homicide if the accident
is bad enough to kill someone.
Modified vehicles are far more likely to get inspected after an accident
than regular vehicles.
The only reason they didn't hook up all the parts is because the parts
need to be modified so they cost money to do. Either for the brackets
to relocate the track bars or the disconnects for the sway bar links.
Some folks disconnect the sway bar for off road use, but it needs to be
on for the street.
This would lead me to suspect 'every' part of the work that was done....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
j wrote:
>
> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
11-08-2006, 10:08 AM
#8
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Re: lift questions?
Now you know what "professionally done" means, exactly nothing.
Sway bars will interfere with off road operation. Track bar is necessary
for safety. Need for drop pitman depends on lift height. Without it you
may get bump steer. Shackle lifts are frowned upon, because they change the
pinion shaft angle, and can lead to driveline vibrations. Any shackle lift
should at least be heavy duty shackles, and hopefully one piece welded
together, so it looks a little like the capital letter "H".
Earle
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
>
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Sway bars will interfere with off road operation. Track bar is necessary
for safety. Need for drop pitman depends on lift height. Without it you
may get bump steer. Shackle lifts are frowned upon, because they change the
pinion shaft angle, and can lead to driveline vibrations. Any shackle lift
should at least be heavy duty shackles, and hopefully one piece welded
together, so it looks a little like the capital letter "H".
Earle
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162970362.112508.294330@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
>
--
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11-08-2006, 10:08 AM
#9
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Posts: n/a
Re: lift questions?
Now you know what "professionally done" means, exactly nothing.
Sway bars will interfere with off road operation. Track bar is necessary
for safety. Need for drop pitman depends on lift height. Without it you
may get bump steer. Shackle lifts are frowned upon, because they change the
pinion shaft angle, and can lead to driveline vibrations. Any shackle lift
should at least be heavy duty shackles, and hopefully one piece welded
together, so it looks a little like the capital letter "H".
Earle
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162970362.112508.294330@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Sway bars will interfere with off road operation. Track bar is necessary
for safety. Need for drop pitman depends on lift height. Without it you
may get bump steer. Shackle lifts are frowned upon, because they change the
pinion shaft angle, and can lead to driveline vibrations. Any shackle lift
should at least be heavy duty shackles, and hopefully one piece welded
together, so it looks a little like the capital letter "H".
Earle
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162970362.112508.294330@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
11-08-2006, 10:08 AM
#10
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Posts: n/a
Re: lift questions?
Now you know what "professionally done" means, exactly nothing.
Sway bars will interfere with off road operation. Track bar is necessary
for safety. Need for drop pitman depends on lift height. Without it you
may get bump steer. Shackle lifts are frowned upon, because they change the
pinion shaft angle, and can lead to driveline vibrations. Any shackle lift
should at least be heavy duty shackles, and hopefully one piece welded
together, so it looks a little like the capital letter "H".
Earle
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162970362.112508.294330@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Sway bars will interfere with off road operation. Track bar is necessary
for safety. Need for drop pitman depends on lift height. Without it you
may get bump steer. Shackle lifts are frowned upon, because they change the
pinion shaft angle, and can lead to driveline vibrations. Any shackle lift
should at least be heavy duty shackles, and hopefully one piece welded
together, so it looks a little like the capital letter "H".
Earle
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162970362.112508.294330@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with 4 inches of spring and 1.5 from the shackles.
> professionally done at a shop by the PO why would you not hook up the
> drag bar? why would you not hook up the sway bars? why did they not use
> a drop pitman?
>
--
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