Liberty diesel...when?
08-30-2003, 05:04 PM
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Re: Liberty diesel...when?
Oh great, that is all we need more smog.
Curt
"WAM11" <wam11@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Anything new on when it will hit the dealer's showroom? I know that it
will be
> a 2005 model, but "when"...
Curt
"WAM11" <wam11@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Anything new on when it will hit the dealer's showroom? I know that it
will be
> a 2005 model, but "when"...
08-30-2003, 05:04 PM
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Re: Liberty diesel...when?
Oh great, that is all we need more smog.
Curt
"WAM11" <wam11@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Anything new on when it will hit the dealer's showroom? I know that it
will be
> a 2005 model, but "when"...
Curt
"WAM11" <wam11@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Anything new on when it will hit the dealer's showroom? I know that it
will be
> a 2005 model, but "when"...
08-30-2003, 11:52 PM
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Re: Liberty diesel...when?
Diesel??? Why would anyone with a choice want that rattling, clattering
smoking low output engine anyway? Let me guess, you need it to tow heavy
trailers with liberty... right?
"WAM11" <wam11@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030830113923.07600.00000158@mb-m17.aol.com...
> Anything new on when it will hit the dealer's showroom? I know that it
will be
> a 2005 model, but "when"...
smoking low output engine anyway? Let me guess, you need it to tow heavy
trailers with liberty... right?
"WAM11" <wam11@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030830113923.07600.00000158@mb-m17.aol.com...
> Anything new on when it will hit the dealer's showroom? I know that it
will be
> a 2005 model, but "when"...
08-30-2003, 11:52 PM
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Re: Liberty diesel...when?
Diesel??? Why would anyone with a choice want that rattling, clattering
smoking low output engine anyway? Let me guess, you need it to tow heavy
trailers with liberty... right?
"WAM11" <wam11@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030830113923.07600.00000158@mb-m17.aol.com...
> Anything new on when it will hit the dealer's showroom? I know that it
will be
> a 2005 model, but "when"...
smoking low output engine anyway? Let me guess, you need it to tow heavy
trailers with liberty... right?
"WAM11" <wam11@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030830113923.07600.00000158@mb-m17.aol.com...
> Anything new on when it will hit the dealer's showroom? I know that it
will be
> a 2005 model, but "when"...
08-31-2003, 01:28 AM
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Re: Liberty diesel...when?
"A.H. MacIntosh aka USERNAME" wrote ...
> Diesel??? Why would anyone with a choice want that rattling, clattering
> smoking low output engine anyway? Let me guess, you need it to tow heavy
> trailers with liberty... right?
From what I understand, the newer turbo diesels are a lot better... Better
acceleration, horsepower, plus you get the low end torque for pulling a
trailer... When my I-6 finally goes out on my '95 XJ, I'm tempted to put a
Detroit Diesel 4.0L engine in it... It'll still give me 180 or so
horsepower, but the torque should be great for towing a trailer... I guess
it'll depend upon what the price of gasoline is at that point compared to
diesel fuel... Diesels have been more popular in Europe than here in the US
since there is more of a price difference in diesel fuel vs autogas...
> Diesel??? Why would anyone with a choice want that rattling, clattering
> smoking low output engine anyway? Let me guess, you need it to tow heavy
> trailers with liberty... right?
From what I understand, the newer turbo diesels are a lot better... Better
acceleration, horsepower, plus you get the low end torque for pulling a
trailer... When my I-6 finally goes out on my '95 XJ, I'm tempted to put a
Detroit Diesel 4.0L engine in it... It'll still give me 180 or so
horsepower, but the torque should be great for towing a trailer... I guess
it'll depend upon what the price of gasoline is at that point compared to
diesel fuel... Diesels have been more popular in Europe than here in the US
since there is more of a price difference in diesel fuel vs autogas...
08-31-2003, 01:28 AM
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Re: Liberty diesel...when?
"A.H. MacIntosh aka USERNAME" wrote ...
> Diesel??? Why would anyone with a choice want that rattling, clattering
> smoking low output engine anyway? Let me guess, you need it to tow heavy
> trailers with liberty... right?
From what I understand, the newer turbo diesels are a lot better... Better
acceleration, horsepower, plus you get the low end torque for pulling a
trailer... When my I-6 finally goes out on my '95 XJ, I'm tempted to put a
Detroit Diesel 4.0L engine in it... It'll still give me 180 or so
horsepower, but the torque should be great for towing a trailer... I guess
it'll depend upon what the price of gasoline is at that point compared to
diesel fuel... Diesels have been more popular in Europe than here in the US
since there is more of a price difference in diesel fuel vs autogas...
> Diesel??? Why would anyone with a choice want that rattling, clattering
> smoking low output engine anyway? Let me guess, you need it to tow heavy
> trailers with liberty... right?
From what I understand, the newer turbo diesels are a lot better... Better
acceleration, horsepower, plus you get the low end torque for pulling a
trailer... When my I-6 finally goes out on my '95 XJ, I'm tempted to put a
Detroit Diesel 4.0L engine in it... It'll still give me 180 or so
horsepower, but the torque should be great for towing a trailer... I guess
it'll depend upon what the price of gasoline is at that point compared to
diesel fuel... Diesels have been more popular in Europe than here in the US
since there is more of a price difference in diesel fuel vs autogas...
08-31-2003, 02:12 AM
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Re: Liberty diesel...when?
Then I'd put one in your plane if I thought like you.
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Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> From what I understand, the newer turbo diesels are a lot better... Better
> acceleration, horsepower, plus you get the low end torque for pulling a
> trailer... When my I-6 finally goes out on my '95 XJ, I'm tempted to put a
> Detroit Diesel 4.0L engine in it... It'll still give me 180 or so
> horsepower, but the torque should be great for towing a trailer... I guess
> it'll depend upon what the price of gasoline is at that point compared to
> diesel fuel... Diesels have been more popular in Europe than here in the US
> since there is more of a price difference in diesel fuel vs autogas...
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> From what I understand, the newer turbo diesels are a lot better... Better
> acceleration, horsepower, plus you get the low end torque for pulling a
> trailer... When my I-6 finally goes out on my '95 XJ, I'm tempted to put a
> Detroit Diesel 4.0L engine in it... It'll still give me 180 or so
> horsepower, but the torque should be great for towing a trailer... I guess
> it'll depend upon what the price of gasoline is at that point compared to
> diesel fuel... Diesels have been more popular in Europe than here in the US
> since there is more of a price difference in diesel fuel vs autogas...
08-31-2003, 02:12 AM
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Re: Liberty diesel...when?
Then I'd put one in your plane if I thought like you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> From what I understand, the newer turbo diesels are a lot better... Better
> acceleration, horsepower, plus you get the low end torque for pulling a
> trailer... When my I-6 finally goes out on my '95 XJ, I'm tempted to put a
> Detroit Diesel 4.0L engine in it... It'll still give me 180 or so
> horsepower, but the torque should be great for towing a trailer... I guess
> it'll depend upon what the price of gasoline is at that point compared to
> diesel fuel... Diesels have been more popular in Europe than here in the US
> since there is more of a price difference in diesel fuel vs autogas...
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> From what I understand, the newer turbo diesels are a lot better... Better
> acceleration, horsepower, plus you get the low end torque for pulling a
> trailer... When my I-6 finally goes out on my '95 XJ, I'm tempted to put a
> Detroit Diesel 4.0L engine in it... It'll still give me 180 or so
> horsepower, but the torque should be great for towing a trailer... I guess
> it'll depend upon what the price of gasoline is at that point compared to
> diesel fuel... Diesels have been more popular in Europe than here in the US
> since there is more of a price difference in diesel fuel vs autogas...
08-31-2003, 04:10 AM
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"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" wrote ...
> Then I'd put one in your plane if I thought like you.
There's some development going on these days to make a light weight reliable
diesel engine for aircraft... If my engine had not been recently overhauled,
I would be tempted to wait for one of them... The ability to run Jet-A or
diesel fuel is quite a fuel savings... Especially over in Europe where 100LL
is quite a bit more expensive that Jet-A... In some ways, a diesel is more
practical for an aircraft since it only has 3 speeds it really operates
at -- idle speed while on the ground, takeoff speed, and cruising speed...
Diesel fuel contains more energy per pound of fuel and weighs slightly more
per gallon... Combining this with a better fuel efficiency equates to longer
range...
> Then I'd put one in your plane if I thought like you.
There's some development going on these days to make a light weight reliable
diesel engine for aircraft... If my engine had not been recently overhauled,
I would be tempted to wait for one of them... The ability to run Jet-A or
diesel fuel is quite a fuel savings... Especially over in Europe where 100LL
is quite a bit more expensive that Jet-A... In some ways, a diesel is more
practical for an aircraft since it only has 3 speeds it really operates
at -- idle speed while on the ground, takeoff speed, and cruising speed...
Diesel fuel contains more energy per pound of fuel and weighs slightly more
per gallon... Combining this with a better fuel efficiency equates to longer
range...