Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:sfJeg.52195$9c6.26922@dukeread11...
> Earle Horton did pass the time by typing:
> > I rented a VW Golf in Spain six months ago, and the smell was barely
> > detectable. I walked around the city of Vitoria-Gasteiz, País Vasco for
> > months, diesel burning rigs everywhere, and I barely noticed it. Not
even
> > the buses. In fact the air was so clean, that I once saw a tourist from
> > L.A., down on his hands and knees, trying to get a breath of smog from
> > a bus exhaust. ;^)
>
> They use a much higher refined and lower sulfer diesel fuel over there.
> Thank your stars you got a diesel, unleaded fuel is bloody expensive
> over there.
> (at least it was in Italy when I was there)
>
I became a bus and train convert while in Europe. It's not the cost, but
the convenience, and you don't have to worry about parking a bus or a train.
"Gasoleo", or diesel as we call it, isn't very cheap there either. :o( It's
too bad we don't have buses and trains like that here.

Avis gave me a diesel, because it was all they happened to have in town. I
thought I knew Spanish, until I tried to read the instructions on the pump.
Who would have thought, that a nozzle would be a "boquilla"? The raw fuel
doesn't smell so bad either. You can tell it is some kind of diesel, but
not like ours. I put a drop on my finger and smelled it, thereby convincing
the station attendant that I was "loco americano".

Earle



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Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:sfJeg.52195$9c6.26922@dukeread11...
> Earle Horton did pass the time by typing:
> > I rented a VW Golf in Spain six months ago, and the smell was barely
> > detectable. I walked around the city of Vitoria-Gasteiz, País Vasco for
> > months, diesel burning rigs everywhere, and I barely noticed it. Not
even
> > the buses. In fact the air was so clean, that I once saw a tourist from
> > L.A., down on his hands and knees, trying to get a breath of smog from
> > a bus exhaust. ;^)
>
> They use a much higher refined and lower sulfer diesel fuel over there.
> Thank your stars you got a diesel, unleaded fuel is bloody expensive
> over there.
> (at least it was in Italy when I was there)
>
I became a bus and train convert while in Europe. It's not the cost, but
the convenience, and you don't have to worry about parking a bus or a train.
"Gasoleo", or diesel as we call it, isn't very cheap there either. :o( It's
too bad we don't have buses and trains like that here.

Avis gave me a diesel, because it was all they happened to have in town. I
thought I knew Spanish, until I tried to read the instructions on the pump.
Who would have thought, that a nozzle would be a "boquilla"? The raw fuel
doesn't smell so bad either. You can tell it is some kind of diesel, but
not like ours. I put a drop on my finger and smelled it, thereby convincing
the station attendant that I was "loco americano".

Earle



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Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

Hi Earle,
We have always put a color and/or smells into our otherwise
colorless, or odorless home gases. In the seventies Chevrons 105 octane
was clear as a bell and we pumped it from our white painted pumps, just
the blue tinted gas came from our blue painted pumps, and our regular
from the red pumps. You can understand why we put a smell into our
natural gas, and interestingly we all recognize it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Avis gave me a diesel, because it was all they happened to have in town. I
> thought I knew Spanish, until I tried to read the instructions on the pump.
> Who would have thought, that a nozzle would be a "boquilla"? The raw fuel
> doesn't smell so bad either. You can tell it is some kind of diesel, but
> not like ours. I put a drop on my finger and smelled it, thereby convincing
> the station attendant that I was "loco americano".
>
> Earle

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

Hi Earle,
We have always put a color and/or smells into our otherwise
colorless, or odorless home gases. In the seventies Chevrons 105 octane
was clear as a bell and we pumped it from our white painted pumps, just
the blue tinted gas came from our blue painted pumps, and our regular
from the red pumps. You can understand why we put a smell into our
natural gas, and interestingly we all recognize it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Avis gave me a diesel, because it was all they happened to have in town. I
> thought I knew Spanish, until I tried to read the instructions on the pump.
> Who would have thought, that a nozzle would be a "boquilla"? The raw fuel
> doesn't smell so bad either. You can tell it is some kind of diesel, but
> not like ours. I put a drop on my finger and smelled it, thereby convincing
> the station attendant that I was "loco americano".
>
> Earle

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

Hi Earle,
We have always put a color and/or smells into our otherwise
colorless, or odorless home gases. In the seventies Chevrons 105 octane
was clear as a bell and we pumped it from our white painted pumps, just
the blue tinted gas came from our blue painted pumps, and our regular
from the red pumps. You can understand why we put a smell into our
natural gas, and interestingly we all recognize it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Avis gave me a diesel, because it was all they happened to have in town. I
> thought I knew Spanish, until I tried to read the instructions on the pump.
> Who would have thought, that a nozzle would be a "boquilla"? The raw fuel
> doesn't smell so bad either. You can tell it is some kind of diesel, but
> not like ours. I put a drop on my finger and smelled it, thereby convincing
> the station attendant that I was "loco americano".
>
> Earle

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

It has been legislated that by Sept. 1 2006, all on-road diesel fuel must not
contain any more than 15 ppm sulphur.
http://www.petrocanada.ca/eng/prodserv/fuels/6816.htm




>>You guys still haven't got the ultra low sulphur diesel yet.
>>According to this link:
>>http://www.gmcanada.com/inm/gmcanada..._Tailpipe.html
>>"In 2000, the average Canadian level of sulphur in gasoline was about 350
>>parts per million (ppm), among the highest in the industrialized world. At
>>450 ppm, Ontario has the highest average sulphur level in Canada.. "
>>
>>We have been running ultra low sulphur diesel for some time
>>now, which is less than 50 ppm.
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:447AF7B5.DBB54CF5@sympatico.ca...
>>> So I am curious, besides the noise, how bad is the smell? Our dirty
>>> diesel fuel puts out an amazing rotted egg sulfur smell from any diesel
>>> I have had the misfortune to be following in my open topped Jeep....
>>> Especially on trails where the wind can't blow it right away.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

It has been legislated that by Sept. 1 2006, all on-road diesel fuel must not
contain any more than 15 ppm sulphur.
http://www.petrocanada.ca/eng/prodserv/fuels/6816.htm




>>You guys still haven't got the ultra low sulphur diesel yet.
>>According to this link:
>>http://www.gmcanada.com/inm/gmcanada..._Tailpipe.html
>>"In 2000, the average Canadian level of sulphur in gasoline was about 350
>>parts per million (ppm), among the highest in the industrialized world. At
>>450 ppm, Ontario has the highest average sulphur level in Canada.. "
>>
>>We have been running ultra low sulphur diesel for some time
>>now, which is less than 50 ppm.
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:447AF7B5.DBB54CF5@sympatico.ca...
>>> So I am curious, besides the noise, how bad is the smell? Our dirty
>>> diesel fuel puts out an amazing rotted egg sulfur smell from any diesel
>>> I have had the misfortune to be following in my open topped Jeep....
>>> Especially on trails where the wind can't blow it right away.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

It has been legislated that by Sept. 1 2006, all on-road diesel fuel must not
contain any more than 15 ppm sulphur.
http://www.petrocanada.ca/eng/prodserv/fuels/6816.htm




>>You guys still haven't got the ultra low sulphur diesel yet.
>>According to this link:
>>http://www.gmcanada.com/inm/gmcanada..._Tailpipe.html
>>"In 2000, the average Canadian level of sulphur in gasoline was about 350
>>parts per million (ppm), among the highest in the industrialized world. At
>>450 ppm, Ontario has the highest average sulphur level in Canada.. "
>>
>>We have been running ultra low sulphur diesel for some time
>>now, which is less than 50 ppm.
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:447AF7B5.DBB54CF5@sympatico.ca...
>>> So I am curious, besides the noise, how bad is the smell? Our dirty
>>> diesel fuel puts out an amazing rotted egg sulfur smell from any diesel
>>> I have had the misfortune to be following in my open topped Jeep....
>>> Especially on trails where the wind can't blow it right away.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

Don't forget we just changed governments and the new one dumped all the
clean air laws the old one made up.

I don't know how much that affects the diesel quality, but they are
forcing alcohol on us that actually has something like 20% less BTU
output than the input to make and deliver the junk and blows tons more
CO2 into the air according to the local news. 'They' say that this
extra CO2 will magically get blown to the corn fields for them to ingest
so it doesn't count as pollution. LOL!

It is just a pure farm subsidy.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

budman@suckeggs.ca wrote:
>
> It has been legislated that by Sept. 1 2006, all on-road diesel fuel must not
> contain any more than 15 ppm sulphur.
> http://www.petrocanada.ca/eng/prodserv/fuels/6816.htm
>
> >>You guys still haven't got the ultra low sulphur diesel yet.
> >>According to this link:
> >>http://www.gmcanada.com/inm/gmcanada..._Tailpipe.html
> >>"In 2000, the average Canadian level of sulphur in gasoline was about 350
> >>parts per million (ppm), among the highest in the industrialized world. At
> >>450 ppm, Ontario has the highest average sulphur level in Canada.. "
> >>
> >>We have been running ultra low sulphur diesel for some time
> >>now, which is less than 50 ppm.
> >>
> >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> >>
> >>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:447AF7B5.DBB54CF5@sympatico.ca...
> >>> So I am curious, besides the noise, how bad is the smell? Our dirty
> >>> diesel fuel puts out an amazing rotted egg sulfur smell from any diesel
> >>> I have had the misfortune to be following in my open topped Jeep....
> >>> Especially on trails where the wind can't blow it right away.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

Don't forget we just changed governments and the new one dumped all the
clean air laws the old one made up.

I don't know how much that affects the diesel quality, but they are
forcing alcohol on us that actually has something like 20% less BTU
output than the input to make and deliver the junk and blows tons more
CO2 into the air according to the local news. 'They' say that this
extra CO2 will magically get blown to the corn fields for them to ingest
so it doesn't count as pollution. LOL!

It is just a pure farm subsidy.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

budman@suckeggs.ca wrote:
>
> It has been legislated that by Sept. 1 2006, all on-road diesel fuel must not
> contain any more than 15 ppm sulphur.
> http://www.petrocanada.ca/eng/prodserv/fuels/6816.htm
>
> >>You guys still haven't got the ultra low sulphur diesel yet.
> >>According to this link:
> >>http://www.gmcanada.com/inm/gmcanada..._Tailpipe.html
> >>"In 2000, the average Canadian level of sulphur in gasoline was about 350
> >>parts per million (ppm), among the highest in the industrialized world. At
> >>450 ppm, Ontario has the highest average sulphur level in Canada.. "
> >>
> >>We have been running ultra low sulphur diesel for some time
> >>now, which is less than 50 ppm.
> >>
> >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> >>
> >>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:447AF7B5.DBB54CF5@sympatico.ca...
> >>> So I am curious, besides the noise, how bad is the smell? Our dirty
> >>> diesel fuel puts out an amazing rotted egg sulfur smell from any diesel
> >>> I have had the misfortune to be following in my open topped Jeep....
> >>> Especially on trails where the wind can't blow it right away.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>