Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

Just nosin' around on the Internet can find some interesting information. I
realize that it might have limited interest at this time, but since I just
bought a new Liberty CRD, the engine is unique to me after years of tinkering
with "normal" engines. I'm also having a time convincing my wife that it isn't
noisy, it simply 'sounds' different!


VM Motori

VM Motori S.p.A. is a diesel engine manufacturing company in Cento, Italy, which
is the heart of Emilia Romagna and also home to Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati
and Ducati. Founded by two entrepreneurs, Vancini and Martelli (hence the "VM")
in 1947, the company produced the first Italian diesel engine, aircooled and
with direct injection.

In 1964 the company introduced entire new families of air-cooled diesel engines
for fishing boats and the industrial machine markets. VM merges with
"Stabilimenti Meccanici Triestini" in Trieste in 1971, Finmeccanica takes
majority stake in the combined company. 1974 saw the introduction of a new
series of high speed (4200 rpm) HR, pre-combustion chamber, water cooled,
turbocharged engines. The Alfa Romeo Alfetta produced in Arese, rolls off the
line with a VM Motori engine under the hood in 1979, signaling VM's move to the
OEM automotive market. In 1989 Finmeccanica restructers, sells VM Motori stake
to company managers and Midland Montague in a leveraged buyout (LBO), company
back to single Cento plant.

The after-cooled, electronic-combustion, Turbotronic® engine was unveiled in
1990. It was supplied to Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, and Rover.
Detroit Diesel Corporation (DDC) buys VM Motori in 1995, OEM automotive sales
account for 75% of income. Cherokee (#1 in SUV's) and Voyager (#1 in mini-vans)
become a major customer for VM in major deal with Chrysler. 2000 saw change
again with the purchase of DDC by DaimlerChrysler AG. In 2003 Penske Corporation
purchased a 51% stake, and today the company is co-owned by Penske and
DaimlerChrysler (49% stake), and produces diesel engines for a variety of auto
makers.

Recently, Jeep selected VM Motori's 2.8 L common rail turbo engine for the
Liberty CRD. GM Daewoo has also licensed the 1.5 L and 2.0 L common rail engine
designs, and they are building a dedicated engine plant, aiming to start
production in 2006.

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

Does it have separate cylinder heads ?

Dave

<budman@suckeggs.ca> wrote in message
news:edrk72t2qhe58j939qpqp2lrgursstgrh4@4ax.com...
> Just nosin' around on the Internet can find some interesting information.
I
> realize that it might have limited interest at this time, but since I just
> bought a new Liberty CRD, the engine is unique to me after years of
tinkering
> with "normal" engines. I'm also having a time convincing my wife that it
isn't
> noisy, it simply 'sounds' different!
>
>
> VM Motori
> Recently, Jeep selected VM Motori's 2.8 L common rail turbo engine for the
> Liberty CRD. GM Daewoo has also licensed the 1.5 L and 2.0 L common rail
engine
> designs, and they are building a dedicated engine plant, aiming to start
> production in 2006.
>

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

Does it have separate cylinder heads ?

Dave

<budman@suckeggs.ca> wrote in message
news:edrk72t2qhe58j939qpqp2lrgursstgrh4@4ax.com...
> Just nosin' around on the Internet can find some interesting information.
I
> realize that it might have limited interest at this time, but since I just
> bought a new Liberty CRD, the engine is unique to me after years of
tinkering
> with "normal" engines. I'm also having a time convincing my wife that it
isn't
> noisy, it simply 'sounds' different!
>
>
> VM Motori
> Recently, Jeep selected VM Motori's 2.8 L common rail turbo engine for the
> Liberty CRD. GM Daewoo has also licensed the 1.5 L and 2.0 L common rail
engine
> designs, and they are building a dedicated engine plant, aiming to start
> production in 2006.
>

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

Does it have separate cylinder heads ?

Dave

<budman@suckeggs.ca> wrote in message
news:edrk72t2qhe58j939qpqp2lrgursstgrh4@4ax.com...
> Just nosin' around on the Internet can find some interesting information.
I
> realize that it might have limited interest at this time, but since I just
> bought a new Liberty CRD, the engine is unique to me after years of
tinkering
> with "normal" engines. I'm also having a time convincing my wife that it
isn't
> noisy, it simply 'sounds' different!
>
>
> VM Motori
> Recently, Jeep selected VM Motori's 2.8 L common rail turbo engine for the
> Liberty CRD. GM Daewoo has also licensed the 1.5 L and 2.0 L common rail
engine
> designs, and they are building a dedicated engine plant, aiming to start
> production in 2006.
>

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

So I am curious, besides the noise, how bad is the smell? Our dirty
diesel fuel puts out an amazing rotted egg sulfur smell from any diesel
I have had the misfortune to be following in my open topped Jeep....
Especially on trails where the wind can't blow it right away.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

budman@suckeggs.ca wrote:
>
> Just nosin' around on the Internet can find some interesting information. I
> realize that it might have limited interest at this time, but since I just
> bought a new Liberty CRD, the engine is unique to me after years of tinkering
> with "normal" engines. I'm also having a time convincing my wife that it isn't
> noisy, it simply 'sounds' different!
>
> VM Motori
>
> VM Motori S.p.A. is a diesel engine manufacturing company in Cento, Italy, which
> is the heart of Emilia Romagna and also home to Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati
> and Ducati. Founded by two entrepreneurs, Vancini and Martelli (hence the "VM")
> in 1947, the company produced the first Italian diesel engine, aircooled and
> with direct injection.
>
> In 1964 the company introduced entire new families of air-cooled diesel engines
> for fishing boats and the industrial machine markets. VM merges with
> "Stabilimenti Meccanici Triestini" in Trieste in 1971, Finmeccanica takes
> majority stake in the combined company. 1974 saw the introduction of a new
> series of high speed (4200 rpm) HR, pre-combustion chamber, water cooled,
> turbocharged engines. The Alfa Romeo Alfetta produced in Arese, rolls off the
> line with a VM Motori engine under the hood in 1979, signaling VM's move to the
> OEM automotive market. In 1989 Finmeccanica restructers, sells VM Motori stake
> to company managers and Midland Montague in a leveraged buyout (LBO), company
> back to single Cento plant.
>
> The after-cooled, electronic-combustion, Turbotronic® engine was unveiled in
> 1990. It was supplied to Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, and Rover.
> Detroit Diesel Corporation (DDC) buys VM Motori in 1995, OEM automotive sales
> account for 75% of income. Cherokee (#1 in SUV's) and Voyager (#1 in mini-vans)
> become a major customer for VM in major deal with Chrysler. 2000 saw change
> again with the purchase of DDC by DaimlerChrysler AG. In 2003 Penske Corporation
> purchased a 51% stake, and today the company is co-owned by Penske and
> DaimlerChrysler (49% stake), and produces diesel engines for a variety of auto
> makers.
>
> Recently, Jeep selected VM Motori's 2.8 L common rail turbo engine for the
> Liberty CRD. GM Daewoo has also licensed the 1.5 L and 2.0 L common rail engine
> designs, and they are building a dedicated engine plant, aiming to start
> production in 2006.

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

So I am curious, besides the noise, how bad is the smell? Our dirty
diesel fuel puts out an amazing rotted egg sulfur smell from any diesel
I have had the misfortune to be following in my open topped Jeep....
Especially on trails where the wind can't blow it right away.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

budman@suckeggs.ca wrote:
>
> Just nosin' around on the Internet can find some interesting information. I
> realize that it might have limited interest at this time, but since I just
> bought a new Liberty CRD, the engine is unique to me after years of tinkering
> with "normal" engines. I'm also having a time convincing my wife that it isn't
> noisy, it simply 'sounds' different!
>
> VM Motori
>
> VM Motori S.p.A. is a diesel engine manufacturing company in Cento, Italy, which
> is the heart of Emilia Romagna and also home to Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati
> and Ducati. Founded by two entrepreneurs, Vancini and Martelli (hence the "VM")
> in 1947, the company produced the first Italian diesel engine, aircooled and
> with direct injection.
>
> In 1964 the company introduced entire new families of air-cooled diesel engines
> for fishing boats and the industrial machine markets. VM merges with
> "Stabilimenti Meccanici Triestini" in Trieste in 1971, Finmeccanica takes
> majority stake in the combined company. 1974 saw the introduction of a new
> series of high speed (4200 rpm) HR, pre-combustion chamber, water cooled,
> turbocharged engines. The Alfa Romeo Alfetta produced in Arese, rolls off the
> line with a VM Motori engine under the hood in 1979, signaling VM's move to the
> OEM automotive market. In 1989 Finmeccanica restructers, sells VM Motori stake
> to company managers and Midland Montague in a leveraged buyout (LBO), company
> back to single Cento plant.
>
> The after-cooled, electronic-combustion, Turbotronic® engine was unveiled in
> 1990. It was supplied to Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, and Rover.
> Detroit Diesel Corporation (DDC) buys VM Motori in 1995, OEM automotive sales
> account for 75% of income. Cherokee (#1 in SUV's) and Voyager (#1 in mini-vans)
> become a major customer for VM in major deal with Chrysler. 2000 saw change
> again with the purchase of DDC by DaimlerChrysler AG. In 2003 Penske Corporation
> purchased a 51% stake, and today the company is co-owned by Penske and
> DaimlerChrysler (49% stake), and produces diesel engines for a variety of auto
> makers.
>
> Recently, Jeep selected VM Motori's 2.8 L common rail turbo engine for the
> Liberty CRD. GM Daewoo has also licensed the 1.5 L and 2.0 L common rail engine
> designs, and they are building a dedicated engine plant, aiming to start
> production in 2006.

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

So I am curious, besides the noise, how bad is the smell? Our dirty
diesel fuel puts out an amazing rotted egg sulfur smell from any diesel
I have had the misfortune to be following in my open topped Jeep....
Especially on trails where the wind can't blow it right away.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

budman@suckeggs.ca wrote:
>
> Just nosin' around on the Internet can find some interesting information. I
> realize that it might have limited interest at this time, but since I just
> bought a new Liberty CRD, the engine is unique to me after years of tinkering
> with "normal" engines. I'm also having a time convincing my wife that it isn't
> noisy, it simply 'sounds' different!
>
> VM Motori
>
> VM Motori S.p.A. is a diesel engine manufacturing company in Cento, Italy, which
> is the heart of Emilia Romagna and also home to Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati
> and Ducati. Founded by two entrepreneurs, Vancini and Martelli (hence the "VM")
> in 1947, the company produced the first Italian diesel engine, aircooled and
> with direct injection.
>
> In 1964 the company introduced entire new families of air-cooled diesel engines
> for fishing boats and the industrial machine markets. VM merges with
> "Stabilimenti Meccanici Triestini" in Trieste in 1971, Finmeccanica takes
> majority stake in the combined company. 1974 saw the introduction of a new
> series of high speed (4200 rpm) HR, pre-combustion chamber, water cooled,
> turbocharged engines. The Alfa Romeo Alfetta produced in Arese, rolls off the
> line with a VM Motori engine under the hood in 1979, signaling VM's move to the
> OEM automotive market. In 1989 Finmeccanica restructers, sells VM Motori stake
> to company managers and Midland Montague in a leveraged buyout (LBO), company
> back to single Cento plant.
>
> The after-cooled, electronic-combustion, Turbotronic® engine was unveiled in
> 1990. It was supplied to Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, and Rover.
> Detroit Diesel Corporation (DDC) buys VM Motori in 1995, OEM automotive sales
> account for 75% of income. Cherokee (#1 in SUV's) and Voyager (#1 in mini-vans)
> become a major customer for VM in major deal with Chrysler. 2000 saw change
> again with the purchase of DDC by DaimlerChrysler AG. In 2003 Penske Corporation
> purchased a 51% stake, and today the company is co-owned by Penske and
> DaimlerChrysler (49% stake), and produces diesel engines for a variety of auto
> makers.
>
> Recently, Jeep selected VM Motori's 2.8 L common rail turbo engine for the
> Liberty CRD. GM Daewoo has also licensed the 1.5 L and 2.0 L common rail engine
> designs, and they are building a dedicated engine plant, aiming to start
> production in 2006.

Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

I rented a VW Golf in Spain six months ago, and the smell was barely
detectable. I walked around the city of Vitoria-Gasteiz, País Vasco for
months, diesel burning rigs everywhere, and I barely noticed it. Not even
the buses. In fact the air was so clean, that I once saw a tourist from
L.A., down on his hands and knees, trying to get a breath of smog from a bus
exhaust. ;^)

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447AF7B5.DBB54CF5@sympatico.ca...
> So I am curious, besides the noise, how bad is the smell? Our dirty
> diesel fuel puts out an amazing rotted egg sulfur smell from any diesel
> I have had the misfortune to be following in my open topped Jeep....
> Especially on trails where the wind can't blow it right away.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> budman@suckeggs.ca wrote:
> >
> > Just nosin' around on the Internet can find some interesting
information. I
> > realize that it might have limited interest at this time, but since I
just
> > bought a new Liberty CRD, the engine is unique to me after years of
tinkering
> > with "normal" engines. I'm also having a time convincing my wife that
it isn't
> > noisy, it simply 'sounds' different!
> >
> > VM Motori
> >
> > VM Motori S.p.A. is a diesel engine manufacturing company in Cento,
Italy, which
> > is the heart of Emilia Romagna and also home to Ferrari, Lamborghini,
Maserati
> > and Ducati. Founded by two entrepreneurs, Vancini and Martelli (hence
the "VM")
> > in 1947, the company produced the first Italian diesel engine, aircooled
and
> > with direct injection.
> >
> > In 1964 the company introduced entire new families of air-cooled diesel
engines
> > for fishing boats and the industrial machine markets. VM merges with
> > "Stabilimenti Meccanici Triestini" in Trieste in 1971, Finmeccanica
takes
> > majority stake in the combined company. 1974 saw the introduction of a
new
> > series of high speed (4200 rpm) HR, pre-combustion chamber, water
cooled,
> > turbocharged engines. The Alfa Romeo Alfetta produced in Arese, rolls
off the
> > line with a VM Motori engine under the hood in 1979, signaling VM's move
to the
> > OEM automotive market. In 1989 Finmeccanica restructers, sells VM Motori
stake
> > to company managers and Midland Montague in a leveraged buyout (LBO),
company
> > back to single Cento plant.
> >
> > The after-cooled, electronic-combustion, Turbotronic® engine was
unveiled in
> > 1990. It was supplied to Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, and
Rover.
> > Detroit Diesel Corporation (DDC) buys VM Motori in 1995, OEM automotive
sales
> > account for 75% of income. Cherokee (#1 in SUV's) and Voyager (#1 in
mini-vans)
> > become a major customer for VM in major deal with Chrysler. 2000 saw
change
> > again with the purchase of DDC by DaimlerChrysler AG. In 2003 Penske
Corporation
> > purchased a 51% stake, and today the company is co-owned by Penske and
> > DaimlerChrysler (49% stake), and produces diesel engines for a variety
of auto
> > makers.
> >
> > Recently, Jeep selected VM Motori's 2.8 L common rail turbo engine for
the
> > Liberty CRD. GM Daewoo has also licensed the 1.5 L and 2.0 L common rail
engine
> > designs, and they are building a dedicated engine plant, aiming to start
> > production in 2006.



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Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

I rented a VW Golf in Spain six months ago, and the smell was barely
detectable. I walked around the city of Vitoria-Gasteiz, País Vasco for
months, diesel burning rigs everywhere, and I barely noticed it. Not even
the buses. In fact the air was so clean, that I once saw a tourist from
L.A., down on his hands and knees, trying to get a breath of smog from a bus
exhaust. ;^)

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447AF7B5.DBB54CF5@sympatico.ca...
> So I am curious, besides the noise, how bad is the smell? Our dirty
> diesel fuel puts out an amazing rotted egg sulfur smell from any diesel
> I have had the misfortune to be following in my open topped Jeep....
> Especially on trails where the wind can't blow it right away.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> budman@suckeggs.ca wrote:
> >
> > Just nosin' around on the Internet can find some interesting
information. I
> > realize that it might have limited interest at this time, but since I
just
> > bought a new Liberty CRD, the engine is unique to me after years of
tinkering
> > with "normal" engines. I'm also having a time convincing my wife that
it isn't
> > noisy, it simply 'sounds' different!
> >
> > VM Motori
> >
> > VM Motori S.p.A. is a diesel engine manufacturing company in Cento,
Italy, which
> > is the heart of Emilia Romagna and also home to Ferrari, Lamborghini,
Maserati
> > and Ducati. Founded by two entrepreneurs, Vancini and Martelli (hence
the "VM")
> > in 1947, the company produced the first Italian diesel engine, aircooled
and
> > with direct injection.
> >
> > In 1964 the company introduced entire new families of air-cooled diesel
engines
> > for fishing boats and the industrial machine markets. VM merges with
> > "Stabilimenti Meccanici Triestini" in Trieste in 1971, Finmeccanica
takes
> > majority stake in the combined company. 1974 saw the introduction of a
new
> > series of high speed (4200 rpm) HR, pre-combustion chamber, water
cooled,
> > turbocharged engines. The Alfa Romeo Alfetta produced in Arese, rolls
off the
> > line with a VM Motori engine under the hood in 1979, signaling VM's move
to the
> > OEM automotive market. In 1989 Finmeccanica restructers, sells VM Motori
stake
> > to company managers and Midland Montague in a leveraged buyout (LBO),
company
> > back to single Cento plant.
> >
> > The after-cooled, electronic-combustion, Turbotronic® engine was
unveiled in
> > 1990. It was supplied to Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, and
Rover.
> > Detroit Diesel Corporation (DDC) buys VM Motori in 1995, OEM automotive
sales
> > account for 75% of income. Cherokee (#1 in SUV's) and Voyager (#1 in
mini-vans)
> > become a major customer for VM in major deal with Chrysler. 2000 saw
change
> > again with the purchase of DDC by DaimlerChrysler AG. In 2003 Penske
Corporation
> > purchased a 51% stake, and today the company is co-owned by Penske and
> > DaimlerChrysler (49% stake), and produces diesel engines for a variety
of auto
> > makers.
> >
> > Recently, Jeep selected VM Motori's 2.8 L common rail turbo engine for
the
> > Liberty CRD. GM Daewoo has also licensed the 1.5 L and 2.0 L common rail
engine
> > designs, and they are building a dedicated engine plant, aiming to start
> > production in 2006.



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Re: Liberty CRD engine trivia
 

I rented a VW Golf in Spain six months ago, and the smell was barely
detectable. I walked around the city of Vitoria-Gasteiz, País Vasco for
months, diesel burning rigs everywhere, and I barely noticed it. Not even
the buses. In fact the air was so clean, that I once saw a tourist from
L.A., down on his hands and knees, trying to get a breath of smog from a bus
exhaust. ;^)

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447AF7B5.DBB54CF5@sympatico.ca...
> So I am curious, besides the noise, how bad is the smell? Our dirty
> diesel fuel puts out an amazing rotted egg sulfur smell from any diesel
> I have had the misfortune to be following in my open topped Jeep....
> Especially on trails where the wind can't blow it right away.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> budman@suckeggs.ca wrote:
> >
> > Just nosin' around on the Internet can find some interesting
information. I
> > realize that it might have limited interest at this time, but since I
just
> > bought a new Liberty CRD, the engine is unique to me after years of
tinkering
> > with "normal" engines. I'm also having a time convincing my wife that
it isn't
> > noisy, it simply 'sounds' different!
> >
> > VM Motori
> >
> > VM Motori S.p.A. is a diesel engine manufacturing company in Cento,
Italy, which
> > is the heart of Emilia Romagna and also home to Ferrari, Lamborghini,
Maserati
> > and Ducati. Founded by two entrepreneurs, Vancini and Martelli (hence
the "VM")
> > in 1947, the company produced the first Italian diesel engine, aircooled
and
> > with direct injection.
> >
> > In 1964 the company introduced entire new families of air-cooled diesel
engines
> > for fishing boats and the industrial machine markets. VM merges with
> > "Stabilimenti Meccanici Triestini" in Trieste in 1971, Finmeccanica
takes
> > majority stake in the combined company. 1974 saw the introduction of a
new
> > series of high speed (4200 rpm) HR, pre-combustion chamber, water
cooled,
> > turbocharged engines. The Alfa Romeo Alfetta produced in Arese, rolls
off the
> > line with a VM Motori engine under the hood in 1979, signaling VM's move
to the
> > OEM automotive market. In 1989 Finmeccanica restructers, sells VM Motori
stake
> > to company managers and Midland Montague in a leveraged buyout (LBO),
company
> > back to single Cento plant.
> >
> > The after-cooled, electronic-combustion, Turbotronic® engine was
unveiled in
> > 1990. It was supplied to Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, and
Rover.
> > Detroit Diesel Corporation (DDC) buys VM Motori in 1995, OEM automotive
sales
> > account for 75% of income. Cherokee (#1 in SUV's) and Voyager (#1 in
mini-vans)
> > become a major customer for VM in major deal with Chrysler. 2000 saw
change
> > again with the purchase of DDC by DaimlerChrysler AG. In 2003 Penske
Corporation
> > purchased a 51% stake, and today the company is co-owned by Penske and
> > DaimlerChrysler (49% stake), and produces diesel engines for a variety
of auto
> > makers.
> >
> > Recently, Jeep selected VM Motori's 2.8 L common rail turbo engine for
the
> > Liberty CRD. GM Daewoo has also licensed the 1.5 L and 2.0 L common rail
engine
> > designs, and they are building a dedicated engine plant, aiming to start
> > production in 2006.



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