Lets Talk Jacks
11-21-2003, 06:25 PM
#51
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Guess so...sheesh. Maybe it's just due to all the 'air' Jerry gets when
hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
CRWLR wrote:
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>I think that was Jerry.
>>>
>>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
>>>right.
>>
>>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
>>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
>
> rods
>
>>were bolted to.
>>
>
>
> So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
CRWLR wrote:
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>I think that was Jerry.
>>>
>>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
>>>right.
>>
>>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
>>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
>
> rods
>
>>were bolted to.
>>
>
>
> So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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11-21-2003, 06:25 PM
#52
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Guess so...sheesh. Maybe it's just due to all the 'air' Jerry gets when
hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
CRWLR wrote:
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>I think that was Jerry.
>>>
>>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
>>>right.
>>
>>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
>>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
>
> rods
>
>>were bolted to.
>>
>
>
> So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
CRWLR wrote:
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>I think that was Jerry.
>>>
>>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
>>>right.
>>
>>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
>>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
>
> rods
>
>>were bolted to.
>>
>
>
> So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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11-21-2003, 06:37 PM
#53
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail?
Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
bottle jack would not have done the trick.
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com...
> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
jacks under
> the passenger seat instead.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
stored
> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>
> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
been
> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
brand
> >>that
> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>>
> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
changing
> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
> >>extremely
> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
kill
> >>you.
> >>>
> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
> >>never
> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>>
> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
whether
> >>you
> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>>
> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
own
> >>from a
> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>>
> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> Orange County CA
> >>>
> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>
Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
bottle jack would not have done the trick.
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com...
> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
jacks under
> the passenger seat instead.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
stored
> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>
> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
been
> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
brand
> >>that
> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>>
> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
changing
> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
> >>extremely
> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
kill
> >>you.
> >>>
> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
> >>never
> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>>
> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
whether
> >>you
> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>>
> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
own
> >>from a
> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>>
> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> Orange County CA
> >>>
> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>
11-21-2003, 06:37 PM
#54
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail?
Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
bottle jack would not have done the trick.
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com...
> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
jacks under
> the passenger seat instead.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
stored
> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>
> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
been
> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
brand
> >>that
> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>>
> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
changing
> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
> >>extremely
> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
kill
> >>you.
> >>>
> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
> >>never
> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>>
> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
whether
> >>you
> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>>
> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
own
> >>from a
> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>>
> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> Orange County CA
> >>>
> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>
Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
bottle jack would not have done the trick.
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com...
> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
jacks under
> the passenger seat instead.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
stored
> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>
> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
been
> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
brand
> >>that
> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>>
> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
changing
> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
> >>extremely
> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
kill
> >>you.
> >>>
> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
> >>never
> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>>
> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
whether
> >>you
> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>>
> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
own
> >>from a
> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>>
> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> Orange County CA
> >>>
> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>
11-21-2003, 06:37 PM
#55
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail?
Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
bottle jack would not have done the trick.
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com...
> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
jacks under
> the passenger seat instead.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
stored
> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>
> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
been
> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
brand
> >>that
> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>>
> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
changing
> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
> >>extremely
> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
kill
> >>you.
> >>>
> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
> >>never
> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>>
> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
whether
> >>you
> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>>
> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
own
> >>from a
> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>>
> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> Orange County CA
> >>>
> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>
Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
bottle jack would not have done the trick.
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com...
> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
jacks under
> the passenger seat instead.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
stored
> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>
> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
been
> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
brand
> >>that
> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>>
> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
changing
> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
> >>extremely
> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
kill
> >>you.
> >>>
> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
> >>never
> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>>
> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
whether
> >>you
> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>>
> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
own
> >>from a
> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>>
> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> Orange County CA
> >>>
> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>
11-21-2003, 06:38 PM
#56
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
And that's because he sets the Cruise Control ... (hehehe)
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:h9xvb.2191$ZJ7.1871@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> Guess so...sheesh. Maybe it's just due to all the 'air' Jerry gets when
> hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
> >
> >>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> >>
> >>>I think that was Jerry.
> >>>
> >>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> >>>right.
> >>
> >>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
> >>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
> >
> > rods
> >
> >>were bolted to.
> >>
> >
> >
> > So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:h9xvb.2191$ZJ7.1871@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> Guess so...sheesh. Maybe it's just due to all the 'air' Jerry gets when
> hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
> >
> >>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> >>
> >>>I think that was Jerry.
> >>>
> >>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> >>>right.
> >>
> >>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
> >>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
> >
> > rods
> >
> >>were bolted to.
> >>
> >
> >
> > So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
11-21-2003, 06:38 PM
#57
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
And that's because he sets the Cruise Control ... (hehehe)
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:h9xvb.2191$ZJ7.1871@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> Guess so...sheesh. Maybe it's just due to all the 'air' Jerry gets when
> hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
> >
> >>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> >>
> >>>I think that was Jerry.
> >>>
> >>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> >>>right.
> >>
> >>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
> >>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
> >
> > rods
> >
> >>were bolted to.
> >>
> >
> >
> > So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:h9xvb.2191$ZJ7.1871@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> Guess so...sheesh. Maybe it's just due to all the 'air' Jerry gets when
> hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
> >
> >>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> >>
> >>>I think that was Jerry.
> >>>
> >>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> >>>right.
> >>
> >>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
> >>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
> >
> > rods
> >
> >>were bolted to.
> >>
> >
> >
> > So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
11-21-2003, 06:38 PM
#58
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
And that's because he sets the Cruise Control ... (hehehe)
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:h9xvb.2191$ZJ7.1871@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> Guess so...sheesh. Maybe it's just due to all the 'air' Jerry gets when
> hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
> >
> >>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> >>
> >>>I think that was Jerry.
> >>>
> >>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> >>>right.
> >>
> >>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
> >>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
> >
> > rods
> >
> >>were bolted to.
> >>
> >
> >
> > So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:h9xvb.2191$ZJ7.1871@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> Guess so...sheesh. Maybe it's just due to all the 'air' Jerry gets when
> hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
> >
> >>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> >>
> >>>I think that was Jerry.
> >>>
> >>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> >>>right.
> >>
> >>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
> >>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
> >
> > rods
> >
> >>were bolted to.
> >>
> >
> >
> > So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
11-21-2003, 07:15 PM
#59
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the high-lift only
when there is no other choice.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail?
>>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
>>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
>>
>>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
>>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
>>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
>>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
>>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
>>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
>>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
>>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
>>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
>>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
>>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
>>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
>>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
>>jacks under
>>> the passenger seat instead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
>>stored
>>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>> >>
>>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
>>been
>>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
>>brand
>>> >>that
>>> >>> >is a better choice?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
>>changing
>>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>> >>extremely
>>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
>>kill
>>> >>you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>> >>never
>>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>> >>Hi-Lift
>>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
>>whether
>>> >>you
>>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
>>own
>>> >>from a
>>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Robert Bills
>>> >>> KG6LMV
>>> >>> Orange County CA
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>>>
when there is no other choice.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail?
>>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
>>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
>>
>>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
>>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
>>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
>>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
>>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
>>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
>>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
>>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
>>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
>>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
>>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
>>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
>>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
>>jacks under
>>> the passenger seat instead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
>>stored
>>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>> >>
>>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
>>been
>>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
>>brand
>>> >>that
>>> >>> >is a better choice?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
>>changing
>>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>> >>extremely
>>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
>>kill
>>> >>you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>> >>never
>>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>> >>Hi-Lift
>>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
>>whether
>>> >>you
>>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
>>own
>>> >>from a
>>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Robert Bills
>>> >>> KG6LMV
>>> >>> Orange County CA
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>>>
11-21-2003, 07:15 PM
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the high-lift only
when there is no other choice.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail?
>>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
>>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
>>
>>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
>>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
>>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
>>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
>>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
>>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
>>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
>>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
>>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
>>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
>>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
>>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
>>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
>>jacks under
>>> the passenger seat instead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
>>stored
>>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>> >>
>>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
>>been
>>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
>>brand
>>> >>that
>>> >>> >is a better choice?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
>>changing
>>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>> >>extremely
>>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
>>kill
>>> >>you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>> >>never
>>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>> >>Hi-Lift
>>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
>>whether
>>> >>you
>>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
>>own
>>> >>from a
>>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Robert Bills
>>> >>> KG6LMV
>>> >>> Orange County CA
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>>>
when there is no other choice.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail?
>>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
>>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
>>
>>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
>>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
>>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
>>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
>>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
>>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
>>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
>>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
>>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
>>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
>>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
>>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
>>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
>>jacks under
>>> the passenger seat instead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
>>stored
>>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>> >>
>>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
>>been
>>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
>>brand
>>> >>that
>>> >>> >is a better choice?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
>>changing
>>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>> >>extremely
>>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
>>kill
>>> >>you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>> >>never
>>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>> >>Hi-Lift
>>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
>>whether
>>> >>you
>>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
>>own
>>> >>from a
>>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Robert Bills
>>> >>> KG6LMV
>>> >>> Orange County CA
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>>>