Land Rover/Range Rover engines and Chevy Novas?
07-05-2004, 11:43 AM
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Re: Land Rover/Range Rover engines and Chevy Novas?
On 05 Jul 2004 05:17:01 GMT, wblane@aol.combotizer (Wblane) wrote:
>I remember reading that Chevy Novas (which had overhead cams!) had a great
>motor slated to go in them that was sold off to Land Rover/Range Rover. I think
>it was the same block as the Chevy Nova but was all AL? Does anyone know more
>about this?
>
This is WAAAAY off topic, so I will post these links to kill this
thread. This discussion needs to be in a LR forum or group..
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~lloyd...Rover/Engines/
QUOTE from above link:
The 3.5L carburettor version was produced in a variety of states of
tune from 135bhp / 190 lb-ft in the early RR down to 91bhp / 166 lb ft
in the Stage-1 (thanks to intake restrictor plates). Fuel injection
increased power to 165bhp. The 3.9L version gave 185bhp and the 4.2L
200bhp.
1950: Buick light-alloy 3.5L V8, ohv.
1960: Engine used in Buick Skylark, Pontiac Tempest, Oldsmobile
Cutlass.
1964: Rover buy the design. First used in Rover 3500 sedan.
1966, 1967: Jack Brabham wins the (3.0L) Formula One world
championship using a `Repco' derivative of the engine. My recollection
is that it has 2v/cyl, sohc/bank giving about 350bhp.
1970: Engine used in Range Rover 4WD.
1960s/70s: 4.4L in Australian P76 sedan and Terrier trucks.
1979: 3.5L used in Stage-1 Land-Rover.
1983: 110 and
1984: 90.
1986ish: Supaspares (Queensland) making 5.0L versions with 94.1mm
(3.705") bore, from P76 and Terrier engines.
1990: 3.5L used in Discovery.
1992: Land-Rover 3.9L and 4.2L versions in Discovery / RR.
1994: Land-Rover 4.0L and 4.6L versions in revised Range Rover.
4.0L: (3950cc) 94mm x 71mm, 9.34:1 cr, 140kW at 4750rpm, 320Nm at
3000rpm
4.6L: (4554cc) 94mm x 82mm, 9.34:1 cr, 166kW at 4750rpm, 377Nm at
3000rpm
UNQUOTE.
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~lloyd...Engines/V8.txt -
long and interesting history of the engine's development.
http://www.rpiv8.com/engine.htm
Engines and tech articles
The LR engine is very expensive to fix, esp considering its age and
lack of sophistication. It was never OHC, and it was not used in the
Nova.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
>I remember reading that Chevy Novas (which had overhead cams!) had a great
>motor slated to go in them that was sold off to Land Rover/Range Rover. I think
>it was the same block as the Chevy Nova but was all AL? Does anyone know more
>about this?
>
This is WAAAAY off topic, so I will post these links to kill this
thread. This discussion needs to be in a LR forum or group..
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~lloyd...Rover/Engines/
QUOTE from above link:
The 3.5L carburettor version was produced in a variety of states of
tune from 135bhp / 190 lb-ft in the early RR down to 91bhp / 166 lb ft
in the Stage-1 (thanks to intake restrictor plates). Fuel injection
increased power to 165bhp. The 3.9L version gave 185bhp and the 4.2L
200bhp.
1950: Buick light-alloy 3.5L V8, ohv.
1960: Engine used in Buick Skylark, Pontiac Tempest, Oldsmobile
Cutlass.
1964: Rover buy the design. First used in Rover 3500 sedan.
1966, 1967: Jack Brabham wins the (3.0L) Formula One world
championship using a `Repco' derivative of the engine. My recollection
is that it has 2v/cyl, sohc/bank giving about 350bhp.
1970: Engine used in Range Rover 4WD.
1960s/70s: 4.4L in Australian P76 sedan and Terrier trucks.
1979: 3.5L used in Stage-1 Land-Rover.
1983: 110 and
1984: 90.
1986ish: Supaspares (Queensland) making 5.0L versions with 94.1mm
(3.705") bore, from P76 and Terrier engines.
1990: 3.5L used in Discovery.
1992: Land-Rover 3.9L and 4.2L versions in Discovery / RR.
1994: Land-Rover 4.0L and 4.6L versions in revised Range Rover.
4.0L: (3950cc) 94mm x 71mm, 9.34:1 cr, 140kW at 4750rpm, 320Nm at
3000rpm
4.6L: (4554cc) 94mm x 82mm, 9.34:1 cr, 166kW at 4750rpm, 377Nm at
3000rpm
UNQUOTE.
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~lloyd...Engines/V8.txt -
long and interesting history of the engine's development.
http://www.rpiv8.com/engine.htm
Engines and tech articles
The LR engine is very expensive to fix, esp considering its age and
lack of sophistication. It was never OHC, and it was not used in the
Nova.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
07-05-2004, 02:20 PM
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Re: Land Rover/Range Rover engines and Chevy Novas?
<.... was sold off to Land Rover/Range Rover. >>
Back in the '60's Rover bought the old small block aluminum Buick V8 and
ended up putting it in everything they sold. Since most of the4 brands are
now history, only Land Rover continues with this well over-used OHV engine.
FWIW, Land Rover will beging using the Jaguar AJV8 next year in the
replacement for the Disc II. Eventually the Range Rover will get the Jaguar
V8 in place of the current BMW4.4L.
Back in the '60's Rover bought the old small block aluminum Buick V8 and
ended up putting it in everything they sold. Since most of the4 brands are
now history, only Land Rover continues with this well over-used OHV engine.
FWIW, Land Rover will beging using the Jaguar AJV8 next year in the
replacement for the Disc II. Eventually the Range Rover will get the Jaguar
V8 in place of the current BMW4.4L.
07-05-2004, 02:20 PM
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Re: Land Rover/Range Rover engines and Chevy Novas?
<.... was sold off to Land Rover/Range Rover. >>
Back in the '60's Rover bought the old small block aluminum Buick V8 and
ended up putting it in everything they sold. Since most of the4 brands are
now history, only Land Rover continues with this well over-used OHV engine.
FWIW, Land Rover will beging using the Jaguar AJV8 next year in the
replacement for the Disc II. Eventually the Range Rover will get the Jaguar
V8 in place of the current BMW4.4L.
Back in the '60's Rover bought the old small block aluminum Buick V8 and
ended up putting it in everything they sold. Since most of the4 brands are
now history, only Land Rover continues with this well over-used OHV engine.
FWIW, Land Rover will beging using the Jaguar AJV8 next year in the
replacement for the Disc II. Eventually the Range Rover will get the Jaguar
V8 in place of the current BMW4.4L.
07-05-2004, 02:20 PM
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Re: Land Rover/Range Rover engines and Chevy Novas?
<.... was sold off to Land Rover/Range Rover. >>
Back in the '60's Rover bought the old small block aluminum Buick V8 and
ended up putting it in everything they sold. Since most of the4 brands are
now history, only Land Rover continues with this well over-used OHV engine.
FWIW, Land Rover will beging using the Jaguar AJV8 next year in the
replacement for the Disc II. Eventually the Range Rover will get the Jaguar
V8 in place of the current BMW4.4L.
Back in the '60's Rover bought the old small block aluminum Buick V8 and
ended up putting it in everything they sold. Since most of the4 brands are
now history, only Land Rover continues with this well over-used OHV engine.
FWIW, Land Rover will beging using the Jaguar AJV8 next year in the
replacement for the Disc II. Eventually the Range Rover will get the Jaguar
V8 in place of the current BMW4.4L.
07-05-2004, 02:20 PM
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Re: Land Rover/Range Rover engines and Chevy Novas?
<.... was sold off to Land Rover/Range Rover. >>
Back in the '60's Rover bought the old small block aluminum Buick V8 and
ended up putting it in everything they sold. Since most of the4 brands are
now history, only Land Rover continues with this well over-used OHV engine.
FWIW, Land Rover will beging using the Jaguar AJV8 next year in the
replacement for the Disc II. Eventually the Range Rover will get the Jaguar
V8 in place of the current BMW4.4L.
Back in the '60's Rover bought the old small block aluminum Buick V8 and
ended up putting it in everything they sold. Since most of the4 brands are
now history, only Land Rover continues with this well over-used OHV engine.
FWIW, Land Rover will beging using the Jaguar AJV8 next year in the
replacement for the Disc II. Eventually the Range Rover will get the Jaguar
V8 in place of the current BMW4.4L.
07-05-2004, 02:47 PM
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Re: Land Rover/Range Rover engines and Chevy Novas?
It was probably 215" as an American it's hard to think V8 so small!
Buick ran 455" that same year, people that bought that would be laughed
at. And we didn't know how to take care them, no one changes the coolant
every other year at the time, so at the end of two years electrolysis
destroyed the little dinky thing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was it a 225 originally ? It was 215 (3528cc) when LR put it out, but I dont
> know if they modified it much. I'm still running headgaskets from the 61-63
> Buick in my Rover ( the head has fewer bolt holes now as the original had
> too many on the inside of the V which led to the gaskets blowing on the
> outside of the V )
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Buick ran 455" that same year, people that bought that would be laughed
at. And we didn't know how to take care them, no one changes the coolant
every other year at the time, so at the end of two years electrolysis
destroyed the little dinky thing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was it a 225 originally ? It was 215 (3528cc) when LR put it out, but I dont
> know if they modified it much. I'm still running headgaskets from the 61-63
> Buick in my Rover ( the head has fewer bolt holes now as the original had
> too many on the inside of the V which led to the gaskets blowing on the
> outside of the V )
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-05-2004, 02:47 PM
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Re: Land Rover/Range Rover engines and Chevy Novas?
It was probably 215" as an American it's hard to think V8 so small!
Buick ran 455" that same year, people that bought that would be laughed
at. And we didn't know how to take care them, no one changes the coolant
every other year at the time, so at the end of two years electrolysis
destroyed the little dinky thing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was it a 225 originally ? It was 215 (3528cc) when LR put it out, but I dont
> know if they modified it much. I'm still running headgaskets from the 61-63
> Buick in my Rover ( the head has fewer bolt holes now as the original had
> too many on the inside of the V which led to the gaskets blowing on the
> outside of the V )
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Buick ran 455" that same year, people that bought that would be laughed
at. And we didn't know how to take care them, no one changes the coolant
every other year at the time, so at the end of two years electrolysis
destroyed the little dinky thing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was it a 225 originally ? It was 215 (3528cc) when LR put it out, but I dont
> know if they modified it much. I'm still running headgaskets from the 61-63
> Buick in my Rover ( the head has fewer bolt holes now as the original had
> too many on the inside of the V which led to the gaskets blowing on the
> outside of the V )
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-05-2004, 02:47 PM
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Re: Land Rover/Range Rover engines and Chevy Novas?
It was probably 215" as an American it's hard to think V8 so small!
Buick ran 455" that same year, people that bought that would be laughed
at. And we didn't know how to take care them, no one changes the coolant
every other year at the time, so at the end of two years electrolysis
destroyed the little dinky thing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was it a 225 originally ? It was 215 (3528cc) when LR put it out, but I dont
> know if they modified it much. I'm still running headgaskets from the 61-63
> Buick in my Rover ( the head has fewer bolt holes now as the original had
> too many on the inside of the V which led to the gaskets blowing on the
> outside of the V )
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Buick ran 455" that same year, people that bought that would be laughed
at. And we didn't know how to take care them, no one changes the coolant
every other year at the time, so at the end of two years electrolysis
destroyed the little dinky thing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was it a 225 originally ? It was 215 (3528cc) when LR put it out, but I dont
> know if they modified it much. I'm still running headgaskets from the 61-63
> Buick in my Rover ( the head has fewer bolt holes now as the original had
> too many on the inside of the V which led to the gaskets blowing on the
> outside of the V )
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-05-2004, 02:47 PM
#29
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Re: Land Rover/Range Rover engines and Chevy Novas?
It was probably 215" as an American it's hard to think V8 so small!
Buick ran 455" that same year, people that bought that would be laughed
at. And we didn't know how to take care them, no one changes the coolant
every other year at the time, so at the end of two years electrolysis
destroyed the little dinky thing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was it a 225 originally ? It was 215 (3528cc) when LR put it out, but I dont
> know if they modified it much. I'm still running headgaskets from the 61-63
> Buick in my Rover ( the head has fewer bolt holes now as the original had
> too many on the inside of the V which led to the gaskets blowing on the
> outside of the V )
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Buick ran 455" that same year, people that bought that would be laughed
at. And we didn't know how to take care them, no one changes the coolant
every other year at the time, so at the end of two years electrolysis
destroyed the little dinky thing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Was it a 225 originally ? It was 215 (3528cc) when LR put it out, but I dont
> know if they modified it much. I'm still running headgaskets from the 61-63
> Buick in my Rover ( the head has fewer bolt holes now as the original had
> too many on the inside of the V which led to the gaskets blowing on the
> outside of the V )
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-05-2004, 02:56 PM
#30
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OT Re: Land Rover/Range Rover engines and Chevy Novas?
Your site is off at least on the Buick, they used straight eights
until 1953.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Davies wrote:
>
> This is WAAAAY off topic, so I will post these links to kill this
> thread. This discussion needs to be in a LR forum or group..
>
> http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~lloyd...Rover/Engines/
>
> QUOTE from above link:
>
> The 3.5L carburettor version was produced in a variety of states of
> tune from 135bhp / 190 lb-ft in the early RR down to 91bhp / 166 lb ft
> in the Stage-1 (thanks to intake restrictor plates). Fuel injection
> increased power to 165bhp. The 3.9L version gave 185bhp and the 4.2L
> 200bhp.
>
> 1950: Buick light-alloy 3.5L V8, ohv.
> 1960: Engine used in Buick Skylark, Pontiac Tempest, Oldsmobile
> Cutlass.
> 1964: Rover buy the design. First used in Rover 3500 sedan.
> 1966, 1967: Jack Brabham wins the (3.0L) Formula One world
> championship using a `Repco' derivative of the engine. My recollection
> is that it has 2v/cyl, sohc/bank giving about 350bhp.
> 1970: Engine used in Range Rover 4WD.
> 1960s/70s: 4.4L in Australian P76 sedan and Terrier trucks.
> 1979: 3.5L used in Stage-1 Land-Rover.
> 1983: 110 and
> 1984: 90.
> 1986ish: Supaspares (Queensland) making 5.0L versions with 94.1mm
> (3.705") bore, from P76 and Terrier engines.
> 1990: 3.5L used in Discovery.
> 1992: Land-Rover 3.9L and 4.2L versions in Discovery / RR.
> 1994: Land-Rover 4.0L and 4.6L versions in revised Range Rover.
> 4.0L: (3950cc) 94mm x 71mm, 9.34:1 cr, 140kW at 4750rpm, 320Nm at
> 3000rpm
> 4.6L: (4554cc) 94mm x 82mm, 9.34:1 cr, 166kW at 4750rpm, 377Nm at
> 3000rpm
>
> UNQUOTE.
>
> http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~lloyd...Engines/V8.txt -
> long and interesting history of the engine's development.
>
> http://www.rpiv8.com/engine.htm
> Engines and tech articles
>
> The LR engine is very expensive to fix, esp considering its age and
> lack of sophistication. It was never OHC, and it was not used in the
> Nova.
>
> John Davies
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA
until 1953.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Davies wrote:
>
> This is WAAAAY off topic, so I will post these links to kill this
> thread. This discussion needs to be in a LR forum or group..
>
> http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~lloyd...Rover/Engines/
>
> QUOTE from above link:
>
> The 3.5L carburettor version was produced in a variety of states of
> tune from 135bhp / 190 lb-ft in the early RR down to 91bhp / 166 lb ft
> in the Stage-1 (thanks to intake restrictor plates). Fuel injection
> increased power to 165bhp. The 3.9L version gave 185bhp and the 4.2L
> 200bhp.
>
> 1950: Buick light-alloy 3.5L V8, ohv.
> 1960: Engine used in Buick Skylark, Pontiac Tempest, Oldsmobile
> Cutlass.
> 1964: Rover buy the design. First used in Rover 3500 sedan.
> 1966, 1967: Jack Brabham wins the (3.0L) Formula One world
> championship using a `Repco' derivative of the engine. My recollection
> is that it has 2v/cyl, sohc/bank giving about 350bhp.
> 1970: Engine used in Range Rover 4WD.
> 1960s/70s: 4.4L in Australian P76 sedan and Terrier trucks.
> 1979: 3.5L used in Stage-1 Land-Rover.
> 1983: 110 and
> 1984: 90.
> 1986ish: Supaspares (Queensland) making 5.0L versions with 94.1mm
> (3.705") bore, from P76 and Terrier engines.
> 1990: 3.5L used in Discovery.
> 1992: Land-Rover 3.9L and 4.2L versions in Discovery / RR.
> 1994: Land-Rover 4.0L and 4.6L versions in revised Range Rover.
> 4.0L: (3950cc) 94mm x 71mm, 9.34:1 cr, 140kW at 4750rpm, 320Nm at
> 3000rpm
> 4.6L: (4554cc) 94mm x 82mm, 9.34:1 cr, 166kW at 4750rpm, 377Nm at
> 3000rpm
>
> UNQUOTE.
>
> http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~lloyd...Engines/V8.txt -
> long and interesting history of the engine's development.
>
> http://www.rpiv8.com/engine.htm
> Engines and tech articles
>
> The LR engine is very expensive to fix, esp considering its age and
> lack of sophistication. It was never OHC, and it was not used in the
> Nova.
>
> John Davies
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA