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Re: Koenig winch
It is not a PTO. PTO means Power Take Off, and this power source is a
mechanical connection to the drive train via the transfer case. Your winch is a hydraulic winch. It runs by hydraulic means via a pump that is driven by a motor. The pump could be a PTO design, but typically is simply connected to the crankshaft by a belt. In an automotive application -- such as your Jeep -- a hydraulic winch is often run by the power steering pump. The beauty of a hydraulic winch over an electric one is that it can run pretty much forever without stopping, wheras an electric winch needs to rest frequently because it gets hot. The downside of the hydraulic winch is that if it is your own Jeep that needs to be recovered, the engine must be able to run for the winch to work. As a practical matter, the recovery operation while offroading is usually far shorter than the duty cycle of the winch -- you can get the vehicle back on its wheels long before the winch gets hot and needs to rest. An electric winch is well suited for self recovery because it can work even if the vehicle is belly up, and the engine will not run. "Randy" <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:1190266640.810206.319480@e9g2000prf.googlegro ups.com... > I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me > what the specs are? > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor. > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original > unit. > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be > appreciated. > |
Re: Koenig winch
It is not a PTO. PTO means Power Take Off, and this power source is a
mechanical connection to the drive train via the transfer case. Your winch is a hydraulic winch. It runs by hydraulic means via a pump that is driven by a motor. The pump could be a PTO design, but typically is simply connected to the crankshaft by a belt. In an automotive application -- such as your Jeep -- a hydraulic winch is often run by the power steering pump. The beauty of a hydraulic winch over an electric one is that it can run pretty much forever without stopping, wheras an electric winch needs to rest frequently because it gets hot. The downside of the hydraulic winch is that if it is your own Jeep that needs to be recovered, the engine must be able to run for the winch to work. As a practical matter, the recovery operation while offroading is usually far shorter than the duty cycle of the winch -- you can get the vehicle back on its wheels long before the winch gets hot and needs to rest. An electric winch is well suited for self recovery because it can work even if the vehicle is belly up, and the engine will not run. "Randy" <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:1190266640.810206.319480@e9g2000prf.googlegro ups.com... > I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me > what the specs are? > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor. > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original > unit. > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be > appreciated. > |
Re: Koenig winch
It is not a PTO. PTO means Power Take Off, and this power source is a
mechanical connection to the drive train via the transfer case. Your winch is a hydraulic winch. It runs by hydraulic means via a pump that is driven by a motor. The pump could be a PTO design, but typically is simply connected to the crankshaft by a belt. In an automotive application -- such as your Jeep -- a hydraulic winch is often run by the power steering pump. The beauty of a hydraulic winch over an electric one is that it can run pretty much forever without stopping, wheras an electric winch needs to rest frequently because it gets hot. The downside of the hydraulic winch is that if it is your own Jeep that needs to be recovered, the engine must be able to run for the winch to work. As a practical matter, the recovery operation while offroading is usually far shorter than the duty cycle of the winch -- you can get the vehicle back on its wheels long before the winch gets hot and needs to rest. An electric winch is well suited for self recovery because it can work even if the vehicle is belly up, and the engine will not run. "Randy" <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:1190266640.810206.319480@e9g2000prf.googlegro ups.com... > I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me > what the specs are? > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor. > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original > unit. > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be > appreciated. > |
Re: Koenig winch
For Christ sake, either top post or bottom post, but not both.
It doesn't matter what netiquette is, follow suit so I don't have to look for the discussion. There is nothing worse than sticking to "right" when somebody else has already screwed it up. "Randy" <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:1190277741.561484.40060@e9g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com... > On Sep 20, 1:40 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" > <LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote: >> Does it separate from the motor to look like the old Koenig winch use >> with Power Take >> Offs:http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Phot.../HHKoenigWinch... >> ? >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/ >> >> "Randy" <arwolkow...@shaw.ca> wrote in message >> >> news:1190266640.810206.319480@e9g2000prf.googlegro ups.com... >> >> > I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs >> > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I >> > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it >> > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm >> > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me >> > what the specs are? >> > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I >> > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor. >> > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They >> > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather >> > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original >> > unit. >> > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be >> > appreciated. >> >> -- >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com > > It looks like a similar design as in your photo except there is an > adapter spool that bolts onto the bottom of the drive end. This is > where the hydraulic motor is bolted and coupled to the winch. I would > like to attach a photo but I don't know how!!! > You can not post pictures (binary files) to a non-binary group. You have to post the binary to another server, then provide the link. You can create a Photo Album in Yahoo!, pack it full of pictures, then post links here so we can go there. POINT OF ORDER Do you see how stupid it is to adhere to netiquette after somebody else has violated the rules? Sheesh. Just follow suit ... |
Re: Koenig winch
For Christ sake, either top post or bottom post, but not both.
It doesn't matter what netiquette is, follow suit so I don't have to look for the discussion. There is nothing worse than sticking to "right" when somebody else has already screwed it up. "Randy" <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:1190277741.561484.40060@e9g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com... > On Sep 20, 1:40 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" > <LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote: >> Does it separate from the motor to look like the old Koenig winch use >> with Power Take >> Offs:http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Phot.../HHKoenigWinch... >> ? >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/ >> >> "Randy" <arwolkow...@shaw.ca> wrote in message >> >> news:1190266640.810206.319480@e9g2000prf.googlegro ups.com... >> >> > I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs >> > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I >> > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it >> > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm >> > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me >> > what the specs are? >> > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I >> > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor. >> > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They >> > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather >> > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original >> > unit. >> > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be >> > appreciated. >> >> -- >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com > > It looks like a similar design as in your photo except there is an > adapter spool that bolts onto the bottom of the drive end. This is > where the hydraulic motor is bolted and coupled to the winch. I would > like to attach a photo but I don't know how!!! > You can not post pictures (binary files) to a non-binary group. You have to post the binary to another server, then provide the link. You can create a Photo Album in Yahoo!, pack it full of pictures, then post links here so we can go there. POINT OF ORDER Do you see how stupid it is to adhere to netiquette after somebody else has violated the rules? Sheesh. Just follow suit ... |
Re: Koenig winch
For Christ sake, either top post or bottom post, but not both.
It doesn't matter what netiquette is, follow suit so I don't have to look for the discussion. There is nothing worse than sticking to "right" when somebody else has already screwed it up. "Randy" <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:1190277741.561484.40060@e9g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com... > On Sep 20, 1:40 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" > <LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote: >> Does it separate from the motor to look like the old Koenig winch use >> with Power Take >> Offs:http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Phot.../HHKoenigWinch... >> ? >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/ >> >> "Randy" <arwolkow...@shaw.ca> wrote in message >> >> news:1190266640.810206.319480@e9g2000prf.googlegro ups.com... >> >> > I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs >> > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I >> > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it >> > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm >> > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me >> > what the specs are? >> > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I >> > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor. >> > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They >> > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather >> > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original >> > unit. >> > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be >> > appreciated. >> >> -- >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com > > It looks like a similar design as in your photo except there is an > adapter spool that bolts onto the bottom of the drive end. This is > where the hydraulic motor is bolted and coupled to the winch. I would > like to attach a photo but I don't know how!!! > You can not post pictures (binary files) to a non-binary group. You have to post the binary to another server, then provide the link. You can create a Photo Album in Yahoo!, pack it full of pictures, then post links here so we can go there. POINT OF ORDER Do you see how stupid it is to adhere to netiquette after somebody else has violated the rules? Sheesh. Just follow suit ... |
Re: Koenig winch
For Christ sake, either top post or bottom post, but not both.
It doesn't matter what netiquette is, follow suit so I don't have to look for the discussion. There is nothing worse than sticking to "right" when somebody else has already screwed it up. "Randy" <arwolkowski@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:1190277741.561484.40060@e9g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com... > On Sep 20, 1:40 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" > <LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote: >> Does it separate from the motor to look like the old Koenig winch use >> with Power Take >> Offs:http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Phot.../HHKoenigWinch... >> ? >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/ >> >> "Randy" <arwolkow...@shaw.ca> wrote in message >> >> news:1190266640.810206.319480@e9g2000prf.googlegro ups.com... >> >> > I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs >> > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I >> > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it >> > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm >> > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me >> > what the specs are? >> > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I >> > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor. >> > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They >> > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather >> > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original >> > unit. >> > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be >> > appreciated. >> >> -- >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com > > It looks like a similar design as in your photo except there is an > adapter spool that bolts onto the bottom of the drive end. This is > where the hydraulic motor is bolted and coupled to the winch. I would > like to attach a photo but I don't know how!!! > You can not post pictures (binary files) to a non-binary group. You have to post the binary to another server, then provide the link. You can create a Photo Album in Yahoo!, pack it full of pictures, then post links here so we can go there. POINT OF ORDER Do you see how stupid it is to adhere to netiquette after somebody else has violated the rules? Sheesh. Just follow suit ... |
Re: Koenig winch
Randy wrote:
> I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me > what the specs are? > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor. > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original > unit. > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be > appreciated. > That winch 'can' be driven off the PTO if you have such, otherwise it is just a hydraulic winch. It might even have been made for Jeeps. http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Tech/KoenigWinch.html I believe you are correct about the pump and speed, though speed isn't always a good thing when winching.... If you had a PTO, then a hand throttle would control the winch speed. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Koenig winch
Randy wrote:
> I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me > what the specs are? > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor. > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original > unit. > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be > appreciated. > That winch 'can' be driven off the PTO if you have such, otherwise it is just a hydraulic winch. It might even have been made for Jeeps. http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Tech/KoenigWinch.html I believe you are correct about the pump and speed, though speed isn't always a good thing when winching.... If you had a PTO, then a hand throttle would control the winch speed. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Koenig winch
Randy wrote:
> I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me > what the specs are? > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor. > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original > unit. > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be > appreciated. > That winch 'can' be driven off the PTO if you have such, otherwise it is just a hydraulic winch. It might even have been made for Jeeps. http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Tech/KoenigWinch.html I believe you are correct about the pump and speed, though speed isn't always a good thing when winching.... If you had a PTO, then a hand throttle would control the winch speed. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
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