Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
 

William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the bottom
> there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now what
> do you think?

It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
so check everything else first.

Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.

Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around the
clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.

> "William Oliveri" wrote ...
>> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the jeep
>> warms up and gets more water pressure?

Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.

--
DougW

Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
 

William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the bottom
> there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now what
> do you think?

It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
so check everything else first.

Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.

Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around the
clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.

> "William Oliveri" wrote ...
>> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the jeep
>> warms up and gets more water pressure?

Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.

--
DougW

Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
 

William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the bottom
> there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now what
> do you think?

It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
so check everything else first.

Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.

Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around the
clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.

> "William Oliveri" wrote ...
>> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the jeep
>> warms up and gets more water pressure?

Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.

--
DougW

Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
 

Ok,

Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
talking about.

http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg

I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
specifically looking for this as I start the engine.

Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
the flow of liquid escaping.

There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.

I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
problem.

So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)

Bill



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
bottom
> > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
what
> > do you think?
>
> It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> so check everything else first.
>
> Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
>
> Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
the
> clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
>
> > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
jeep
> >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
>
> Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>

Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
 

Ok,

Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
talking about.

http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg

I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
specifically looking for this as I start the engine.

Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
the flow of liquid escaping.

There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.

I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
problem.

So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)

Bill



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
bottom
> > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
what
> > do you think?
>
> It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> so check everything else first.
>
> Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
>
> Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
the
> clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
>
> > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
jeep
> >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
>
> Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>

Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
 

Ok,

Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
talking about.

http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg

I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
specifically looking for this as I start the engine.

Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
the flow of liquid escaping.

There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.

I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
problem.

So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)

Bill



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
bottom
> > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
what
> > do you think?
>
> It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> so check everything else first.
>
> Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
>
> Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
the
> clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
>
> > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
jeep
> >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
>
> Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>

Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
 

Ok,

Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
talking about.

http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg

I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
specifically looking for this as I start the engine.

Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
the flow of liquid escaping.

There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.

I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
problem.

So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)

Bill



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
bottom
> > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
what
> > do you think?
>
> It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> so check everything else first.
>
> Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
>
> Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
the
> clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
>
> > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
jeep
> >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
>
> Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>

Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
 

William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> Ok,
>
> Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
> talking about.
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg

Yep. It's unusual for one to leak but not impossible.

> I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
> it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
> specifically looking for this as I start the engine.

I had a hard time finding the leak in my ZJ. Opened the hood moved one
hose and it pissed all over me. :/

> Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
> the flow of liquid escaping.

Yes.

> There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
> freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.
>
> I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
> problem.

If it's just the plug it shouldn't be that long, day or two.

> So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)

I know the feeling. Between the exhaust header breaking and various
other things I've spent the last several weekends working on the Jeep
rather than off-roading.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
 

William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> Ok,
>
> Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
> talking about.
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg

Yep. It's unusual for one to leak but not impossible.

> I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
> it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
> specifically looking for this as I start the engine.

I had a hard time finding the leak in my ZJ. Opened the hood moved one
hose and it pissed all over me. :/

> Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
> the flow of liquid escaping.

Yes.

> There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
> freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.
>
> I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
> problem.

If it's just the plug it shouldn't be that long, day or two.

> So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)

I know the feeling. Between the exhaust header breaking and various
other things I've spent the last several weekends working on the Jeep
rather than off-roading.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
 

William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> Ok,
>
> Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
> talking about.
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg

Yep. It's unusual for one to leak but not impossible.

> I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
> it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
> specifically looking for this as I start the engine.

I had a hard time finding the leak in my ZJ. Opened the hood moved one
hose and it pissed all over me. :/

> Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
> the flow of liquid escaping.

Yes.

> There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
> freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.
>
> I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
> problem.

If it's just the plug it shouldn't be that long, day or two.

> So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)

I know the feeling. Between the exhaust header breaking and various
other things I've spent the last several weekends working on the Jeep
rather than off-roading.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!