Just making sure everyone sees Bill's reply to a cop who risks hislife for us every day. Bill you're THE complete ASS!
05-20-2005 | 06:03 PM
#101
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Re: Just making sure everyone sees Bill's reply to a cop who risks his life for us every day. Bill you're THE complete ***!
I hope so, I am one of those too. I have used my jeep many times to save
life and property. That is one of the main reasons I am trying to sell my X
so I can get a Rubicon Unlimited
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"CJ5 on 35's" <kmoses@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> to be clear...firefighters are heros right?
>
life and property. That is one of the main reasons I am trying to sell my X
so I can get a Rubicon Unlimited
Patrick
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"CJ5 on 35's" <kmoses@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> to be clear...firefighters are heros right?
>
05-20-2005 | 06:07 PM
#102
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Re: Just making sure everyone sees Bill's reply to a cop who risks his life for us every day. Bill you're THE complete ***!
I carry a .40 Glock, I know alot of people don't like Glock, but I can throw
it in mud and still shoot straight. The .40 holds a few more rounds than a
..45 and around 2 less than the 9 MM. The .40 has a little less power than
the .45, but also less kick and more control, so if I have to shoot, I hit
the target and not the little kid playing down the street. Several officers
I know that work for the county carry 9 MM. Most of the firearms
instructors also carry the 9 MM because of the amount of control it allows.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428D8683.2ECE05BB@***.net...
> Part of the trouble is the cops are required to use the puny 9 MM,
> it won't stop a man coming at you, and cop probably just figured the
> first sixteen shots missed. They used to carry a .357 or .45 which if
> the charging man were hit in the arm would knock back on the ground,
> wondering whether he wanted to live.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder. The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would
>> be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
it in mud and still shoot straight. The .40 holds a few more rounds than a
..45 and around 2 less than the 9 MM. The .40 has a little less power than
the .45, but also less kick and more control, so if I have to shoot, I hit
the target and not the little kid playing down the street. Several officers
I know that work for the county carry 9 MM. Most of the firearms
instructors also carry the 9 MM because of the amount of control it allows.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428D8683.2ECE05BB@***.net...
> Part of the trouble is the cops are required to use the puny 9 MM,
> it won't stop a man coming at you, and cop probably just figured the
> first sixteen shots missed. They used to carry a .357 or .45 which if
> the charging man were hit in the arm would knock back on the ground,
> wondering whether he wanted to live.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder. The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would
>> be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
05-20-2005 | 06:07 PM
#103
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Re: Just making sure everyone sees Bill's reply to a cop who risks his life for us every day. Bill you're THE complete ***!
I carry a .40 Glock, I know alot of people don't like Glock, but I can throw
it in mud and still shoot straight. The .40 holds a few more rounds than a
..45 and around 2 less than the 9 MM. The .40 has a little less power than
the .45, but also less kick and more control, so if I have to shoot, I hit
the target and not the little kid playing down the street. Several officers
I know that work for the county carry 9 MM. Most of the firearms
instructors also carry the 9 MM because of the amount of control it allows.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428D8683.2ECE05BB@***.net...
> Part of the trouble is the cops are required to use the puny 9 MM,
> it won't stop a man coming at you, and cop probably just figured the
> first sixteen shots missed. They used to carry a .357 or .45 which if
> the charging man were hit in the arm would knock back on the ground,
> wondering whether he wanted to live.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder. The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would
>> be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
it in mud and still shoot straight. The .40 holds a few more rounds than a
..45 and around 2 less than the 9 MM. The .40 has a little less power than
the .45, but also less kick and more control, so if I have to shoot, I hit
the target and not the little kid playing down the street. Several officers
I know that work for the county carry 9 MM. Most of the firearms
instructors also carry the 9 MM because of the amount of control it allows.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428D8683.2ECE05BB@***.net...
> Part of the trouble is the cops are required to use the puny 9 MM,
> it won't stop a man coming at you, and cop probably just figured the
> first sixteen shots missed. They used to carry a .357 or .45 which if
> the charging man were hit in the arm would knock back on the ground,
> wondering whether he wanted to live.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder. The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would
>> be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
05-20-2005 | 06:07 PM
#104
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Re: Just making sure everyone sees Bill's reply to a cop who risks his life for us every day. Bill you're THE complete ***!
I carry a .40 Glock, I know alot of people don't like Glock, but I can throw
it in mud and still shoot straight. The .40 holds a few more rounds than a
..45 and around 2 less than the 9 MM. The .40 has a little less power than
the .45, but also less kick and more control, so if I have to shoot, I hit
the target and not the little kid playing down the street. Several officers
I know that work for the county carry 9 MM. Most of the firearms
instructors also carry the 9 MM because of the amount of control it allows.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428D8683.2ECE05BB@***.net...
> Part of the trouble is the cops are required to use the puny 9 MM,
> it won't stop a man coming at you, and cop probably just figured the
> first sixteen shots missed. They used to carry a .357 or .45 which if
> the charging man were hit in the arm would knock back on the ground,
> wondering whether he wanted to live.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder. The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would
>> be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
it in mud and still shoot straight. The .40 holds a few more rounds than a
..45 and around 2 less than the 9 MM. The .40 has a little less power than
the .45, but also less kick and more control, so if I have to shoot, I hit
the target and not the little kid playing down the street. Several officers
I know that work for the county carry 9 MM. Most of the firearms
instructors also carry the 9 MM because of the amount of control it allows.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428D8683.2ECE05BB@***.net...
> Part of the trouble is the cops are required to use the puny 9 MM,
> it won't stop a man coming at you, and cop probably just figured the
> first sixteen shots missed. They used to carry a .357 or .45 which if
> the charging man were hit in the arm would knock back on the ground,
> wondering whether he wanted to live.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder. The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would
>> be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
05-20-2005 | 06:07 PM
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Re: Just making sure everyone sees Bill's reply to a cop who risks his life for us every day. Bill you're THE complete ***!
I carry a .40 Glock, I know alot of people don't like Glock, but I can throw
it in mud and still shoot straight. The .40 holds a few more rounds than a
..45 and around 2 less than the 9 MM. The .40 has a little less power than
the .45, but also less kick and more control, so if I have to shoot, I hit
the target and not the little kid playing down the street. Several officers
I know that work for the county carry 9 MM. Most of the firearms
instructors also carry the 9 MM because of the amount of control it allows.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428D8683.2ECE05BB@***.net...
> Part of the trouble is the cops are required to use the puny 9 MM,
> it won't stop a man coming at you, and cop probably just figured the
> first sixteen shots missed. They used to carry a .357 or .45 which if
> the charging man were hit in the arm would knock back on the ground,
> wondering whether he wanted to live.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder. The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would
>> be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
it in mud and still shoot straight. The .40 holds a few more rounds than a
..45 and around 2 less than the 9 MM. The .40 has a little less power than
the .45, but also less kick and more control, so if I have to shoot, I hit
the target and not the little kid playing down the street. Several officers
I know that work for the county carry 9 MM. Most of the firearms
instructors also carry the 9 MM because of the amount of control it allows.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428D8683.2ECE05BB@***.net...
> Part of the trouble is the cops are required to use the puny 9 MM,
> it won't stop a man coming at you, and cop probably just figured the
> first sixteen shots missed. They used to carry a .357 or .45 which if
> the charging man were hit in the arm would knock back on the ground,
> wondering whether he wanted to live.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder. The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would
>> be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
05-20-2005 | 06:10 PM
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Re: Just making sure everyone sees Bill's reply to a cop who risks his life for us every day. Bill you're THE complete ***!
A knife is another example If you don't have your gun out and ready, you
can be killed by someone that has a knife and is within 21 feet of you. If
they make it that close to me with a knife, I will do all I can to put
several holes in them and stop the threat from advancing. If they put the
knife down like i will tell them several times, then they won't have any
problems.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"Steve" <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:oeoje.33817$Ph4.597762@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Doug wrote:
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>
> Wrong: citizen was 44 years old
>
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder.
>
> Wrong. Two shots fired after citizen advanced toward the retreating
> officer over a distance of 50 ft despite repeated verbal warnings.
>
>> The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>
> The guy was swinging a heavy 40" chain with a padlock on the end.
> Sufficient to incapacitate or kill and cannot be defended against with a
> baton.
>
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
>
> No way. He did everything by the book and there were literally bus loads
> of witnesses to corroborate.
>
> http://www.presstelegram.com/Stories...862422,00.html
>
> Sorry for responding to your off topic anecdote, but you really should
> check your facts before ranting away.
>
> The real problem is not cops but a society that refuses to take
> responsibility for the treatment and care of it's addicted and mentally
> ill citizens.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
can be killed by someone that has a knife and is within 21 feet of you. If
they make it that close to me with a knife, I will do all I can to put
several holes in them and stop the threat from advancing. If they put the
knife down like i will tell them several times, then they won't have any
problems.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"Steve" <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:oeoje.33817$Ph4.597762@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Doug wrote:
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>
> Wrong: citizen was 44 years old
>
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder.
>
> Wrong. Two shots fired after citizen advanced toward the retreating
> officer over a distance of 50 ft despite repeated verbal warnings.
>
>> The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>
> The guy was swinging a heavy 40" chain with a padlock on the end.
> Sufficient to incapacitate or kill and cannot be defended against with a
> baton.
>
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
>
> No way. He did everything by the book and there were literally bus loads
> of witnesses to corroborate.
>
> http://www.presstelegram.com/Stories...862422,00.html
>
> Sorry for responding to your off topic anecdote, but you really should
> check your facts before ranting away.
>
> The real problem is not cops but a society that refuses to take
> responsibility for the treatment and care of it's addicted and mentally
> ill citizens.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
05-20-2005 | 06:10 PM
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Re: Just making sure everyone sees Bill's reply to a cop who risks his life for us every day. Bill you're THE complete ***!
A knife is another example If you don't have your gun out and ready, you
can be killed by someone that has a knife and is within 21 feet of you. If
they make it that close to me with a knife, I will do all I can to put
several holes in them and stop the threat from advancing. If they put the
knife down like i will tell them several times, then they won't have any
problems.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"Steve" <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:oeoje.33817$Ph4.597762@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Doug wrote:
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>
> Wrong: citizen was 44 years old
>
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder.
>
> Wrong. Two shots fired after citizen advanced toward the retreating
> officer over a distance of 50 ft despite repeated verbal warnings.
>
>> The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>
> The guy was swinging a heavy 40" chain with a padlock on the end.
> Sufficient to incapacitate or kill and cannot be defended against with a
> baton.
>
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
>
> No way. He did everything by the book and there were literally bus loads
> of witnesses to corroborate.
>
> http://www.presstelegram.com/Stories...862422,00.html
>
> Sorry for responding to your off topic anecdote, but you really should
> check your facts before ranting away.
>
> The real problem is not cops but a society that refuses to take
> responsibility for the treatment and care of it's addicted and mentally
> ill citizens.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
can be killed by someone that has a knife and is within 21 feet of you. If
they make it that close to me with a knife, I will do all I can to put
several holes in them and stop the threat from advancing. If they put the
knife down like i will tell them several times, then they won't have any
problems.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"Steve" <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:oeoje.33817$Ph4.597762@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Doug wrote:
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>
> Wrong: citizen was 44 years old
>
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder.
>
> Wrong. Two shots fired after citizen advanced toward the retreating
> officer over a distance of 50 ft despite repeated verbal warnings.
>
>> The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>
> The guy was swinging a heavy 40" chain with a padlock on the end.
> Sufficient to incapacitate or kill and cannot be defended against with a
> baton.
>
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
>
> No way. He did everything by the book and there were literally bus loads
> of witnesses to corroborate.
>
> http://www.presstelegram.com/Stories...862422,00.html
>
> Sorry for responding to your off topic anecdote, but you really should
> check your facts before ranting away.
>
> The real problem is not cops but a society that refuses to take
> responsibility for the treatment and care of it's addicted and mentally
> ill citizens.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
05-20-2005 | 06:10 PM
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Re: Just making sure everyone sees Bill's reply to a cop who risks his life for us every day. Bill you're THE complete ***!
A knife is another example If you don't have your gun out and ready, you
can be killed by someone that has a knife and is within 21 feet of you. If
they make it that close to me with a knife, I will do all I can to put
several holes in them and stop the threat from advancing. If they put the
knife down like i will tell them several times, then they won't have any
problems.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"Steve" <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:oeoje.33817$Ph4.597762@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Doug wrote:
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>
> Wrong: citizen was 44 years old
>
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder.
>
> Wrong. Two shots fired after citizen advanced toward the retreating
> officer over a distance of 50 ft despite repeated verbal warnings.
>
>> The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>
> The guy was swinging a heavy 40" chain with a padlock on the end.
> Sufficient to incapacitate or kill and cannot be defended against with a
> baton.
>
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
>
> No way. He did everything by the book and there were literally bus loads
> of witnesses to corroborate.
>
> http://www.presstelegram.com/Stories...862422,00.html
>
> Sorry for responding to your off topic anecdote, but you really should
> check your facts before ranting away.
>
> The real problem is not cops but a society that refuses to take
> responsibility for the treatment and care of it's addicted and mentally
> ill citizens.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
can be killed by someone that has a knife and is within 21 feet of you. If
they make it that close to me with a knife, I will do all I can to put
several holes in them and stop the threat from advancing. If they put the
knife down like i will tell them several times, then they won't have any
problems.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"Steve" <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:oeoje.33817$Ph4.597762@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Doug wrote:
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>
> Wrong: citizen was 44 years old
>
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder.
>
> Wrong. Two shots fired after citizen advanced toward the retreating
> officer over a distance of 50 ft despite repeated verbal warnings.
>
>> The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>
> The guy was swinging a heavy 40" chain with a padlock on the end.
> Sufficient to incapacitate or kill and cannot be defended against with a
> baton.
>
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
>
> No way. He did everything by the book and there were literally bus loads
> of witnesses to corroborate.
>
> http://www.presstelegram.com/Stories...862422,00.html
>
> Sorry for responding to your off topic anecdote, but you really should
> check your facts before ranting away.
>
> The real problem is not cops but a society that refuses to take
> responsibility for the treatment and care of it's addicted and mentally
> ill citizens.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
05-20-2005 | 06:10 PM
#109
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Re: Just making sure everyone sees Bill's reply to a cop who risks his life for us every day. Bill you're THE complete ***!
A knife is another example If you don't have your gun out and ready, you
can be killed by someone that has a knife and is within 21 feet of you. If
they make it that close to me with a knife, I will do all I can to put
several holes in them and stop the threat from advancing. If they put the
knife down like i will tell them several times, then they won't have any
problems.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"Steve" <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:oeoje.33817$Ph4.597762@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Doug wrote:
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>
> Wrong: citizen was 44 years old
>
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder.
>
> Wrong. Two shots fired after citizen advanced toward the retreating
> officer over a distance of 50 ft despite repeated verbal warnings.
>
>> The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>
> The guy was swinging a heavy 40" chain with a padlock on the end.
> Sufficient to incapacitate or kill and cannot be defended against with a
> baton.
>
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
>
> No way. He did everything by the book and there were literally bus loads
> of witnesses to corroborate.
>
> http://www.presstelegram.com/Stories...862422,00.html
>
> Sorry for responding to your off topic anecdote, but you really should
> check your facts before ranting away.
>
> The real problem is not cops but a society that refuses to take
> responsibility for the treatment and care of it's addicted and mentally
> ill citizens.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
can be killed by someone that has a knife and is within 21 feet of you. If
they make it that close to me with a knife, I will do all I can to put
several holes in them and stop the threat from advancing. If they put the
knife down like i will tell them several times, then they won't have any
problems.
Patrick
Ô¿Ô
"Steve" <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:oeoje.33817$Ph4.597762@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Doug wrote:
>> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
>> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
>
> Wrong: citizen was 44 years old
>
>> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
>> f'ing murder.
>
> Wrong. Two shots fired after citizen advanced toward the retreating
> officer over a distance of 50 ft despite repeated verbal warnings.
>
>> The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
>
> The guy was swinging a heavy 40" chain with a padlock on the end.
> Sufficient to incapacitate or kill and cannot be defended against with a
> baton.
>
>> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
>> would be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
>
> No way. He did everything by the book and there were literally bus loads
> of witnesses to corroborate.
>
> http://www.presstelegram.com/Stories...862422,00.html
>
> Sorry for responding to your off topic anecdote, but you really should
> check your facts before ranting away.
>
> The real problem is not cops but a society that refuses to take
> responsibility for the treatment and care of it's addicted and mentally
> ill citizens.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
05-20-2005 | 11:15 PM
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Re: Just making sure everyone sees Bill's reply to a cop who risks hislife for us every day. Bill you're THE complete ***!
Good idea for your instructors to carry a nine, if he misses and
hits you, your vest will stop it, if he fires a .357, it's gone through
you and engine block killing your patrol car, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Patrick Ô¿Ô" wrote:
>
> I carry a .40 Glock, I know alot of people don't like Glock, but I can throw
> it in mud and still shoot straight. The .40 holds a few more rounds than a
> .45 and around 2 less than the 9 MM. The .40 has a little less power than
> the .45, but also less kick and more control, so if I have to shoot, I hit
> the target and not the little kid playing down the street. Several officers
> I know that work for the county carry 9 MM. Most of the firearms
> instructors also carry the 9 MM because of the amount of control it allows.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:428D8683.2ECE05BB@***.net...
> > Part of the trouble is the cops are required to use the puny 9 MM,
> > it won't stop a man coming at you, and cop probably just figured the
> > first sixteen shots missed. They used to carry a .357 or .45 which if
> > the charging man were hit in the arm would knock back on the ground,
> > wondering whether he wanted to live.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Doug wrote:
> >>
> >> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
> >> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
> >> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
> >> f'ing murder. The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
> >> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
> >> would
> >> be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.
hits you, your vest will stop it, if he fires a .357, it's gone through
you and engine block killing your patrol car, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Patrick Ô¿Ô" wrote:
>
> I carry a .40 Glock, I know alot of people don't like Glock, but I can throw
> it in mud and still shoot straight. The .40 holds a few more rounds than a
> .45 and around 2 less than the 9 MM. The .40 has a little less power than
> the .45, but also less kick and more control, so if I have to shoot, I hit
> the target and not the little kid playing down the street. Several officers
> I know that work for the county carry 9 MM. Most of the firearms
> instructors also carry the 9 MM because of the amount of control it allows.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:428D8683.2ECE05BB@***.net...
> > Part of the trouble is the cops are required to use the puny 9 MM,
> > it won't stop a man coming at you, and cop probably just figured the
> > first sixteen shots missed. They used to carry a .357 or .45 which if
> > the charging man were hit in the arm would knock back on the ground,
> > wondering whether he wanted to live.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Doug wrote:
> >>
> >> 60 year old homeless guy, in obviously poor shape vs. 20-something cop in
> >> excellent shape and he felt he had to fill him full of lead?
> >> I'm not talking one shot, I'm talking emptying a mag. Tell me that's not
> >> f'ing murder. The guy had a bicycle chain, how dangerous is that?
> >> ---- if anyone had emptied a mag into a guy out of self-defense they
> >> would
> >> be up on murder charges like that cop should BE.