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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-25-2005 08:17 PM

Re: Just to let everyone know
 
Hi Dave,
I've never had a bad experience with them other than the cheap ones
their handles bend, making them useless. This one on the left I got from
an San Diego Gas & Electric employee in their tool a month club:
http://www.----------.com/chaintightener.jpg I do treat it with respect
covering it with a carpet remits, while pulling a dead pine tree in the
back yard bank over: http://www.----------.com/pineTree.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm with Steve - those things are f*king lethal - no way are their ratings
> real. Buy something decent like a griphoist/tirfor or whatever you call them
> your side of the pond, and you will see what their interpretation of a 1.5-3
> ton winch is ; a lot bigger.
>
> You can't avoid being near those come-along things, and they don't obey the
> number one rule of winch design; i.e. the rope is NOT the weakest link.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


Patrick Ô¿Ô 05-25-2005 09:39 PM

Re: Just to let everyone know
 
Bill,
I'm surprised you didn't post the pic of the tow strap through the seat.

I was in clay, in a swampy area that has been flooded for about 20 years.
After we got out of the mud, my brother said he had a 4 wheeler stuck there
about a week earlier, and almost didn't get it out. We looked for a
come-a-long, but couldn't find it. The tires on the tractor are about 5
feet tall, and it couldn't pull me out. A come-a-long probably would have
broken, I had the frame on the ground. When I get a winch, it will probably
be the Warn 9500ti. I will probably get a come-a-long until then, and also
use my highlift to pull with. A lift with bigger tires might have helped a
little bit.

When in mud, are you supposed to air up or down? I was at normal psi, just
wondering if less would have been better. Also learned the best way to bust
up a beaver dam is to drive over it. I know tread lightly, but they are
destroying farm land, so we are trying to encourage them to move without
having to kill them. I am also thinking a boat anchor tied to the jeep will
work to pull it throught the dam to bust it up.

Patrick
Ô¿Ô

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4294C3CF.6F0EE0E0@cox.net...
> http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> If you don't practice safe winching procedures, no place around or even
>> in the vehicle is safe.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




Patrick Ô¿Ô 05-25-2005 09:39 PM

Re: Just to let everyone know
 
Bill,
I'm surprised you didn't post the pic of the tow strap through the seat.

I was in clay, in a swampy area that has been flooded for about 20 years.
After we got out of the mud, my brother said he had a 4 wheeler stuck there
about a week earlier, and almost didn't get it out. We looked for a
come-a-long, but couldn't find it. The tires on the tractor are about 5
feet tall, and it couldn't pull me out. A come-a-long probably would have
broken, I had the frame on the ground. When I get a winch, it will probably
be the Warn 9500ti. I will probably get a come-a-long until then, and also
use my highlift to pull with. A lift with bigger tires might have helped a
little bit.

When in mud, are you supposed to air up or down? I was at normal psi, just
wondering if less would have been better. Also learned the best way to bust
up a beaver dam is to drive over it. I know tread lightly, but they are
destroying farm land, so we are trying to encourage them to move without
having to kill them. I am also thinking a boat anchor tied to the jeep will
work to pull it throught the dam to bust it up.

Patrick
Ô¿Ô

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4294C3CF.6F0EE0E0@cox.net...
> http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> If you don't practice safe winching procedures, no place around or even
>> in the vehicle is safe.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




Patrick Ô¿Ô 05-25-2005 09:39 PM

Re: Just to let everyone know
 
Bill,
I'm surprised you didn't post the pic of the tow strap through the seat.

I was in clay, in a swampy area that has been flooded for about 20 years.
After we got out of the mud, my brother said he had a 4 wheeler stuck there
about a week earlier, and almost didn't get it out. We looked for a
come-a-long, but couldn't find it. The tires on the tractor are about 5
feet tall, and it couldn't pull me out. A come-a-long probably would have
broken, I had the frame on the ground. When I get a winch, it will probably
be the Warn 9500ti. I will probably get a come-a-long until then, and also
use my highlift to pull with. A lift with bigger tires might have helped a
little bit.

When in mud, are you supposed to air up or down? I was at normal psi, just
wondering if less would have been better. Also learned the best way to bust
up a beaver dam is to drive over it. I know tread lightly, but they are
destroying farm land, so we are trying to encourage them to move without
having to kill them. I am also thinking a boat anchor tied to the jeep will
work to pull it throught the dam to bust it up.

Patrick
Ô¿Ô

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4294C3CF.6F0EE0E0@cox.net...
> http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> If you don't practice safe winching procedures, no place around or even
>> in the vehicle is safe.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




Patrick Ô¿Ô 05-25-2005 09:39 PM

Re: Just to let everyone know
 
Bill,
I'm surprised you didn't post the pic of the tow strap through the seat.

I was in clay, in a swampy area that has been flooded for about 20 years.
After we got out of the mud, my brother said he had a 4 wheeler stuck there
about a week earlier, and almost didn't get it out. We looked for a
come-a-long, but couldn't find it. The tires on the tractor are about 5
feet tall, and it couldn't pull me out. A come-a-long probably would have
broken, I had the frame on the ground. When I get a winch, it will probably
be the Warn 9500ti. I will probably get a come-a-long until then, and also
use my highlift to pull with. A lift with bigger tires might have helped a
little bit.

When in mud, are you supposed to air up or down? I was at normal psi, just
wondering if less would have been better. Also learned the best way to bust
up a beaver dam is to drive over it. I know tread lightly, but they are
destroying farm land, so we are trying to encourage them to move without
having to kill them. I am also thinking a boat anchor tied to the jeep will
work to pull it throught the dam to bust it up.

Patrick
Ô¿Ô

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4294C3CF.6F0EE0E0@cox.net...
> http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> If you don't practice safe winching procedures, no place around or even
>> in the vehicle is safe.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




Patrick Ô¿Ô 05-25-2005 09:45 PM

Re: Just to let everyone know
 
I forgot to mention, I went to Gatlinburg, TN, and got 18 miles to the
gallon. I thought it would be alot less. All the travel was on backroads.
I figured going over the mountains would take less gas, bit didn't. I can't
wait to see what it will be when the computer gets to know me.

Patrick
Ô¿Ô

"Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> wrote in message
news:wlRke.35848$rt1.26662@fe04.lga...
> Good thing for me is she cant drive a stick :-). Got it in the mud today,
> found out first thing to buy for it is a winch. I did the stupid thing
> and stoped in mud, wanted to test the tires, not as good as I hoped. Went
> and got one of the tractors to pull it out, and got it stuck too. Had to
> get a second tractor to push the first to take slack off tow strap, then
> had to use chain and lengthen everything. Second tractor is new, so had
> better tires. It pulled it out without much trouble. Kaki does look
> pretty good with mud. Now I just have to wait until next weekend to see
> how it does on dry trails. Already have 500 miles on it and Love It.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:kjs491dq5rc4bm9f9jid631lb1h42p9up0@4ax.com...
>> Now...all she has to do is get the keys away from you! =)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 23 May 2005 08:28:44 -0400, "Patrick Ô¿Ô"
>> <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>She loves the color of mud, she almost cried when we gave them the keys
>>>>to
>>>>my 02. Yellow and mud go good together, now to just find out what kaki
>>>>and
>>>>mud look like.
>>>>
>>>>Patrick
>>>>Ô¿Ô
>>>>
>>>>"Patrick" <patrick.guarnaccia@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:z8OdnWxTjt6pwQzfRVn-tw@b2b2c.ca...
>>>>>i hope you wife will like the color of the mud on that new toy !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat
>>>>>
>>>>> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> a écrit dans le
>>>>> message
>>>>> de news: N7cke.10042$eR.4540@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>I asked the dealer if they could switch tops, but my wife said no she
>>>>>>like
>>>>>>the matching colors. That solved that, she let me get the jeep so I
>>>>>>didn't want to push my luck. How many rubicons did you end up
>>>>>>getting? I
>>>>>>remember you have trouble with atleast one that DC replaced for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>> Ô¿Ô
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1192jf3gv9uo057@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>> congratulations patrick, thats awesome. youll grow to love the
>>>>>>> khaki, i
>>>>>>> sure did. its my favorite color i think. i would have got my '05
>>>>>>> rubicon in khaki (just like my '03 was) had it been available with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> black top.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Nathan W. Collier
>>>>>>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>>>>>>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Ywbke.10035$eR.7926@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>>> Went to the Stealership today to see what they had, they had
>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>> sold the red unlimited rubi a few weeks earlier, and they had a
>>>>>>>> kaki
>>>>>>>> one on the lot. It had all the options I wanted, but hadn't
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> about the kaki, but my wife said she liked it, so I looked at it a
>>>>>>>> little closer. It is the 6 spd, so I took it for a test drive. It
>>>>>>>> drove Great. Went back to the dealership and salesman wanted to
>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>> money. I had been talking to a different dealer for a while and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> couldn't get the money where I wanted it. an hour later I traded
>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>> 2002 X and drove away in a Kaki Rubicon Unlimited. I guess it is
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> wifes fault since I was going to wait and find a Red one. Only one
>>>>>>>> thing I don't like is already running 2K RPM's in 6th at 50.
>>>>>>>> Mileage
>>>>>>>> is going to suffer I guess. Guess that is what happens when you go
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> 3.07 gears to 4.11. Tires were about the same, I had 31 inch BFG
>>>>>>>> A/T's
>>>>>>>> on the other, these equate to about 30 and 1/2 inches.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>> Ô¿Ô
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

>>

>
>




Patrick Ô¿Ô 05-25-2005 09:45 PM

Re: Just to let everyone know
 
I forgot to mention, I went to Gatlinburg, TN, and got 18 miles to the
gallon. I thought it would be alot less. All the travel was on backroads.
I figured going over the mountains would take less gas, bit didn't. I can't
wait to see what it will be when the computer gets to know me.

Patrick
Ô¿Ô

"Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> wrote in message
news:wlRke.35848$rt1.26662@fe04.lga...
> Good thing for me is she cant drive a stick :-). Got it in the mud today,
> found out first thing to buy for it is a winch. I did the stupid thing
> and stoped in mud, wanted to test the tires, not as good as I hoped. Went
> and got one of the tractors to pull it out, and got it stuck too. Had to
> get a second tractor to push the first to take slack off tow strap, then
> had to use chain and lengthen everything. Second tractor is new, so had
> better tires. It pulled it out without much trouble. Kaki does look
> pretty good with mud. Now I just have to wait until next weekend to see
> how it does on dry trails. Already have 500 miles on it and Love It.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:kjs491dq5rc4bm9f9jid631lb1h42p9up0@4ax.com...
>> Now...all she has to do is get the keys away from you! =)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 23 May 2005 08:28:44 -0400, "Patrick Ô¿Ô"
>> <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>She loves the color of mud, she almost cried when we gave them the keys
>>>>to
>>>>my 02. Yellow and mud go good together, now to just find out what kaki
>>>>and
>>>>mud look like.
>>>>
>>>>Patrick
>>>>Ô¿Ô
>>>>
>>>>"Patrick" <patrick.guarnaccia@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:z8OdnWxTjt6pwQzfRVn-tw@b2b2c.ca...
>>>>>i hope you wife will like the color of the mud on that new toy !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat
>>>>>
>>>>> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> a écrit dans le
>>>>> message
>>>>> de news: N7cke.10042$eR.4540@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>I asked the dealer if they could switch tops, but my wife said no she
>>>>>>like
>>>>>>the matching colors. That solved that, she let me get the jeep so I
>>>>>>didn't want to push my luck. How many rubicons did you end up
>>>>>>getting? I
>>>>>>remember you have trouble with atleast one that DC replaced for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>> Ô¿Ô
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1192jf3gv9uo057@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>> congratulations patrick, thats awesome. youll grow to love the
>>>>>>> khaki, i
>>>>>>> sure did. its my favorite color i think. i would have got my '05
>>>>>>> rubicon in khaki (just like my '03 was) had it been available with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> black top.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Nathan W. Collier
>>>>>>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>>>>>>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Ywbke.10035$eR.7926@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>>> Went to the Stealership today to see what they had, they had
>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>> sold the red unlimited rubi a few weeks earlier, and they had a
>>>>>>>> kaki
>>>>>>>> one on the lot. It had all the options I wanted, but hadn't
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> about the kaki, but my wife said she liked it, so I looked at it a
>>>>>>>> little closer. It is the 6 spd, so I took it for a test drive. It
>>>>>>>> drove Great. Went back to the dealership and salesman wanted to
>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>> money. I had been talking to a different dealer for a while and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> couldn't get the money where I wanted it. an hour later I traded
>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>> 2002 X and drove away in a Kaki Rubicon Unlimited. I guess it is
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> wifes fault since I was going to wait and find a Red one. Only one
>>>>>>>> thing I don't like is already running 2K RPM's in 6th at 50.
>>>>>>>> Mileage
>>>>>>>> is going to suffer I guess. Guess that is what happens when you go
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> 3.07 gears to 4.11. Tires were about the same, I had 31 inch BFG
>>>>>>>> A/T's
>>>>>>>> on the other, these equate to about 30 and 1/2 inches.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>> Ô¿Ô
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

>>

>
>




Patrick Ô¿Ô 05-25-2005 09:45 PM

Re: Just to let everyone know
 
I forgot to mention, I went to Gatlinburg, TN, and got 18 miles to the
gallon. I thought it would be alot less. All the travel was on backroads.
I figured going over the mountains would take less gas, bit didn't. I can't
wait to see what it will be when the computer gets to know me.

Patrick
Ô¿Ô

"Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> wrote in message
news:wlRke.35848$rt1.26662@fe04.lga...
> Good thing for me is she cant drive a stick :-). Got it in the mud today,
> found out first thing to buy for it is a winch. I did the stupid thing
> and stoped in mud, wanted to test the tires, not as good as I hoped. Went
> and got one of the tractors to pull it out, and got it stuck too. Had to
> get a second tractor to push the first to take slack off tow strap, then
> had to use chain and lengthen everything. Second tractor is new, so had
> better tires. It pulled it out without much trouble. Kaki does look
> pretty good with mud. Now I just have to wait until next weekend to see
> how it does on dry trails. Already have 500 miles on it and Love It.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:kjs491dq5rc4bm9f9jid631lb1h42p9up0@4ax.com...
>> Now...all she has to do is get the keys away from you! =)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 23 May 2005 08:28:44 -0400, "Patrick Ô¿Ô"
>> <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>She loves the color of mud, she almost cried when we gave them the keys
>>>>to
>>>>my 02. Yellow and mud go good together, now to just find out what kaki
>>>>and
>>>>mud look like.
>>>>
>>>>Patrick
>>>>Ô¿Ô
>>>>
>>>>"Patrick" <patrick.guarnaccia@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:z8OdnWxTjt6pwQzfRVn-tw@b2b2c.ca...
>>>>>i hope you wife will like the color of the mud on that new toy !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat
>>>>>
>>>>> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> a écrit dans le
>>>>> message
>>>>> de news: N7cke.10042$eR.4540@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>I asked the dealer if they could switch tops, but my wife said no she
>>>>>>like
>>>>>>the matching colors. That solved that, she let me get the jeep so I
>>>>>>didn't want to push my luck. How many rubicons did you end up
>>>>>>getting? I
>>>>>>remember you have trouble with atleast one that DC replaced for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>> Ô¿Ô
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1192jf3gv9uo057@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>> congratulations patrick, thats awesome. youll grow to love the
>>>>>>> khaki, i
>>>>>>> sure did. its my favorite color i think. i would have got my '05
>>>>>>> rubicon in khaki (just like my '03 was) had it been available with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> black top.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Nathan W. Collier
>>>>>>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>>>>>>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Ywbke.10035$eR.7926@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>>> Went to the Stealership today to see what they had, they had
>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>> sold the red unlimited rubi a few weeks earlier, and they had a
>>>>>>>> kaki
>>>>>>>> one on the lot. It had all the options I wanted, but hadn't
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> about the kaki, but my wife said she liked it, so I looked at it a
>>>>>>>> little closer. It is the 6 spd, so I took it for a test drive. It
>>>>>>>> drove Great. Went back to the dealership and salesman wanted to
>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>> money. I had been talking to a different dealer for a while and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> couldn't get the money where I wanted it. an hour later I traded
>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>> 2002 X and drove away in a Kaki Rubicon Unlimited. I guess it is
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> wifes fault since I was going to wait and find a Red one. Only one
>>>>>>>> thing I don't like is already running 2K RPM's in 6th at 50.
>>>>>>>> Mileage
>>>>>>>> is going to suffer I guess. Guess that is what happens when you go
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> 3.07 gears to 4.11. Tires were about the same, I had 31 inch BFG
>>>>>>>> A/T's
>>>>>>>> on the other, these equate to about 30 and 1/2 inches.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>> Ô¿Ô
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

>>

>
>




Patrick Ô¿Ô 05-25-2005 09:45 PM

Re: Just to let everyone know
 
I forgot to mention, I went to Gatlinburg, TN, and got 18 miles to the
gallon. I thought it would be alot less. All the travel was on backroads.
I figured going over the mountains would take less gas, bit didn't. I can't
wait to see what it will be when the computer gets to know me.

Patrick
Ô¿Ô

"Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> wrote in message
news:wlRke.35848$rt1.26662@fe04.lga...
> Good thing for me is she cant drive a stick :-). Got it in the mud today,
> found out first thing to buy for it is a winch. I did the stupid thing
> and stoped in mud, wanted to test the tires, not as good as I hoped. Went
> and got one of the tractors to pull it out, and got it stuck too. Had to
> get a second tractor to push the first to take slack off tow strap, then
> had to use chain and lengthen everything. Second tractor is new, so had
> better tires. It pulled it out without much trouble. Kaki does look
> pretty good with mud. Now I just have to wait until next weekend to see
> how it does on dry trails. Already have 500 miles on it and Love It.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:kjs491dq5rc4bm9f9jid631lb1h42p9up0@4ax.com...
>> Now...all she has to do is get the keys away from you! =)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 23 May 2005 08:28:44 -0400, "Patrick Ô¿Ô"
>> <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>She loves the color of mud, she almost cried when we gave them the keys
>>>>to
>>>>my 02. Yellow and mud go good together, now to just find out what kaki
>>>>and
>>>>mud look like.
>>>>
>>>>Patrick
>>>>Ô¿Ô
>>>>
>>>>"Patrick" <patrick.guarnaccia@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:z8OdnWxTjt6pwQzfRVn-tw@b2b2c.ca...
>>>>>i hope you wife will like the color of the mud on that new toy !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat
>>>>>
>>>>> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> a écrit dans le
>>>>> message
>>>>> de news: N7cke.10042$eR.4540@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>I asked the dealer if they could switch tops, but my wife said no she
>>>>>>like
>>>>>>the matching colors. That solved that, she let me get the jeep so I
>>>>>>didn't want to push my luck. How many rubicons did you end up
>>>>>>getting? I
>>>>>>remember you have trouble with atleast one that DC replaced for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>> Ô¿Ô
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1192jf3gv9uo057@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>> congratulations patrick, thats awesome. youll grow to love the
>>>>>>> khaki, i
>>>>>>> sure did. its my favorite color i think. i would have got my '05
>>>>>>> rubicon in khaki (just like my '03 was) had it been available with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> black top.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Nathan W. Collier
>>>>>>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>>>>>>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" <patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Ywbke.10035$eR.7926@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>>> Went to the Stealership today to see what they had, they had
>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>> sold the red unlimited rubi a few weeks earlier, and they had a
>>>>>>>> kaki
>>>>>>>> one on the lot. It had all the options I wanted, but hadn't
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> about the kaki, but my wife said she liked it, so I looked at it a
>>>>>>>> little closer. It is the 6 spd, so I took it for a test drive. It
>>>>>>>> drove Great. Went back to the dealership and salesman wanted to
>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>> money. I had been talking to a different dealer for a while and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> couldn't get the money where I wanted it. an hour later I traded
>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>> 2002 X and drove away in a Kaki Rubicon Unlimited. I guess it is
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> wifes fault since I was going to wait and find a Red one. Only one
>>>>>>>> thing I don't like is already running 2K RPM's in 6th at 50.
>>>>>>>> Mileage
>>>>>>>> is going to suffer I guess. Guess that is what happens when you go
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> 3.07 gears to 4.11. Tires were about the same, I had 31 inch BFG
>>>>>>>> A/T's
>>>>>>>> on the other, these equate to about 30 and 1/2 inches.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>> Ô¿Ô
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

>>

>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-25-2005 10:44 PM

Re: Just to let everyone know
 
Yes, but everyone knows that's fake:
http://www.southernhighrollers.com/t..._miss_from.htm
Tow strap breaks: http://166.70.18.182/video/cc.mpeg
Sounds like a job for a backhoe.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Patrick Ô¿Ô" wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I'm surprised you didn't post the pic of the tow strap through the seat.
>
> I was in clay, in a swampy area that has been flooded for about 20 years.
> After we got out of the mud, my brother said he had a 4 wheeler stuck there
> about a week earlier, and almost didn't get it out. We looked for a
> come-a-long, but couldn't find it. The tires on the tractor are about 5
> feet tall, and it couldn't pull me out. A come-a-long probably would have
> broken, I had the frame on the ground. When I get a winch, it will probably
> be the Warn 9500ti. I will probably get a come-a-long until then, and also
> use my highlift to pull with. A lift with bigger tires might have helped a
> little bit.
>
> When in mud, are you supposed to air up or down? I was at normal psi, just
> wondering if less would have been better. Also learned the best way to bust
> up a beaver dam is to drive over it. I know tread lightly, but they are
> destroying farm land, so we are trying to encourage them to move without
> having to kill them. I am also thinking a boat anchor tied to the jeep will
> work to pull it throught the dam to bust it up.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4294C3CF.6F0EE0E0@cox.net...
> > http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> If you don't practice safe winching procedures, no place around or even
> >> in the vehicle is safe.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's



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