Re: Just to let everyone know
 

Yes, but everyone knows that's fake:
http://www.southernhighrollers.com/t..._miss_from.htm
Tow strap breaks: http://166.70.18.182/video/cc.mpeg
Sounds like a job for a backhoe.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Patrick Ô¿Ô" wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I'm surprised you didn't post the pic of the tow strap through the seat.
>
> I was in clay, in a swampy area that has been flooded for about 20 years.
> After we got out of the mud, my brother said he had a 4 wheeler stuck there
> about a week earlier, and almost didn't get it out. We looked for a
> come-a-long, but couldn't find it. The tires on the tractor are about 5
> feet tall, and it couldn't pull me out. A come-a-long probably would have
> broken, I had the frame on the ground. When I get a winch, it will probably
> be the Warn 9500ti. I will probably get a come-a-long until then, and also
> use my highlift to pull with. A lift with bigger tires might have helped a
> little bit.
>
> When in mud, are you supposed to air up or down? I was at normal psi, just
> wondering if less would have been better. Also learned the best way to bust
> up a beaver dam is to drive over it. I know tread lightly, but they are
> destroying farm land, so we are trying to encourage them to move without
> having to kill them. I am also thinking a boat anchor tied to the jeep will
> work to pull it throught the dam to bust it up.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4294C3CF.6F0EE0E0@cox.net...
> > http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> If you don't practice safe winching procedures, no place around or even
> >> in the vehicle is safe.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Just to let everyone know
 

Yes, but everyone knows that's fake:
http://www.southernhighrollers.com/t..._miss_from.htm
Tow strap breaks: http://166.70.18.182/video/cc.mpeg
Sounds like a job for a backhoe.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Patrick Ô¿Ô" wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I'm surprised you didn't post the pic of the tow strap through the seat.
>
> I was in clay, in a swampy area that has been flooded for about 20 years.
> After we got out of the mud, my brother said he had a 4 wheeler stuck there
> about a week earlier, and almost didn't get it out. We looked for a
> come-a-long, but couldn't find it. The tires on the tractor are about 5
> feet tall, and it couldn't pull me out. A come-a-long probably would have
> broken, I had the frame on the ground. When I get a winch, it will probably
> be the Warn 9500ti. I will probably get a come-a-long until then, and also
> use my highlift to pull with. A lift with bigger tires might have helped a
> little bit.
>
> When in mud, are you supposed to air up or down? I was at normal psi, just
> wondering if less would have been better. Also learned the best way to bust
> up a beaver dam is to drive over it. I know tread lightly, but they are
> destroying farm land, so we are trying to encourage them to move without
> having to kill them. I am also thinking a boat anchor tied to the jeep will
> work to pull it throught the dam to bust it up.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4294C3CF.6F0EE0E0@cox.net...
> > http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> If you don't practice safe winching procedures, no place around or even
> >> in the vehicle is safe.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Just to let everyone know
 

Yes, but everyone knows that's fake:
http://www.southernhighrollers.com/t..._miss_from.htm
Tow strap breaks: http://166.70.18.182/video/cc.mpeg
Sounds like a job for a backhoe.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Patrick Ô¿Ô" wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I'm surprised you didn't post the pic of the tow strap through the seat.
>
> I was in clay, in a swampy area that has been flooded for about 20 years.
> After we got out of the mud, my brother said he had a 4 wheeler stuck there
> about a week earlier, and almost didn't get it out. We looked for a
> come-a-long, but couldn't find it. The tires on the tractor are about 5
> feet tall, and it couldn't pull me out. A come-a-long probably would have
> broken, I had the frame on the ground. When I get a winch, it will probably
> be the Warn 9500ti. I will probably get a come-a-long until then, and also
> use my highlift to pull with. A lift with bigger tires might have helped a
> little bit.
>
> When in mud, are you supposed to air up or down? I was at normal psi, just
> wondering if less would have been better. Also learned the best way to bust
> up a beaver dam is to drive over it. I know tread lightly, but they are
> destroying farm land, so we are trying to encourage them to move without
> having to kill them. I am also thinking a boat anchor tied to the jeep will
> work to pull it throught the dam to bust it up.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4294C3CF.6F0EE0E0@cox.net...
> > http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> If you don't practice safe winching procedures, no place around or even
> >> in the vehicle is safe.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Just to let everyone know
 

I'm glad you haven't had a bad experience with one, Bill. My dad had a cheap
one and the rope broke and cut his leg quite nastily. I bought him a tirfor
thing after that which was allegedly the same rating (3 ton) - very nice
piece of kit indeed to have. (and the price was several hundred bucks more
than the cheapo one that broke).

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:429515A5.3E31EEFB@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> I've never had a bad experience with them other than the cheap ones
> their handles bend, making them useless. This one on the left I got from
> an San Diego Gas & Electric employee in their tool a month club:
> http://www.----------.com/chaintightener.jpg I do treat it with respect
> covering it with a carpet remits, while pulling a dead pine tree in the
> back yard bank over: http://www.----------.com/pineTree.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Steve - those things are f*king lethal - no way are their
ratings
> > real. Buy something decent like a griphoist/tirfor or whatever you call
them
> > your side of the pond, and you will see what their interpretation of a
1.5-3
> > ton winch is ; a lot bigger.
> >
> > You can't avoid being near those come-along things, and they don't obey
the
> > number one rule of winch design; i.e. the rope is NOT the weakest link.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Just to let everyone know
 

I'm glad you haven't had a bad experience with one, Bill. My dad had a cheap
one and the rope broke and cut his leg quite nastily. I bought him a tirfor
thing after that which was allegedly the same rating (3 ton) - very nice
piece of kit indeed to have. (and the price was several hundred bucks more
than the cheapo one that broke).

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:429515A5.3E31EEFB@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> I've never had a bad experience with them other than the cheap ones
> their handles bend, making them useless. This one on the left I got from
> an San Diego Gas & Electric employee in their tool a month club:
> http://www.----------.com/chaintightener.jpg I do treat it with respect
> covering it with a carpet remits, while pulling a dead pine tree in the
> back yard bank over: http://www.----------.com/pineTree.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Steve - those things are f*king lethal - no way are their
ratings
> > real. Buy something decent like a griphoist/tirfor or whatever you call
them
> > your side of the pond, and you will see what their interpretation of a
1.5-3
> > ton winch is ; a lot bigger.
> >
> > You can't avoid being near those come-along things, and they don't obey
the
> > number one rule of winch design; i.e. the rope is NOT the weakest link.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Just to let everyone know
 

I'm glad you haven't had a bad experience with one, Bill. My dad had a cheap
one and the rope broke and cut his leg quite nastily. I bought him a tirfor
thing after that which was allegedly the same rating (3 ton) - very nice
piece of kit indeed to have. (and the price was several hundred bucks more
than the cheapo one that broke).

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:429515A5.3E31EEFB@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> I've never had a bad experience with them other than the cheap ones
> their handles bend, making them useless. This one on the left I got from
> an San Diego Gas & Electric employee in their tool a month club:
> http://www.----------.com/chaintightener.jpg I do treat it with respect
> covering it with a carpet remits, while pulling a dead pine tree in the
> back yard bank over: http://www.----------.com/pineTree.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Steve - those things are f*king lethal - no way are their
ratings
> > real. Buy something decent like a griphoist/tirfor or whatever you call
them
> > your side of the pond, and you will see what their interpretation of a
1.5-3
> > ton winch is ; a lot bigger.
> >
> > You can't avoid being near those come-along things, and they don't obey
the
> > number one rule of winch design; i.e. the rope is NOT the weakest link.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Just to let everyone know
 

I'm glad you haven't had a bad experience with one, Bill. My dad had a cheap
one and the rope broke and cut his leg quite nastily. I bought him a tirfor
thing after that which was allegedly the same rating (3 ton) - very nice
piece of kit indeed to have. (and the price was several hundred bucks more
than the cheapo one that broke).

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:429515A5.3E31EEFB@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> I've never had a bad experience with them other than the cheap ones
> their handles bend, making them useless. This one on the left I got from
> an San Diego Gas & Electric employee in their tool a month club:
> http://www.----------.com/chaintightener.jpg I do treat it with respect
> covering it with a carpet remits, while pulling a dead pine tree in the
> back yard bank over: http://www.----------.com/pineTree.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Steve - those things are f*king lethal - no way are their
ratings
> > real. Buy something decent like a griphoist/tirfor or whatever you call
them
> > your side of the pond, and you will see what their interpretation of a
1.5-3
> > ton winch is ; a lot bigger.
> >
> > You can't avoid being near those come-along things, and they don't obey
the
> > number one rule of winch design; i.e. the rope is NOT the weakest link.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Just to let everyone know
 

Hi Dave,
Rope? Even the cheapies are cable here. Maybe we're thinking of
something different.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm glad you haven't had a bad experience with one, Bill. My dad had a cheap
> one and the rope broke and cut his leg quite nastily. I bought him a tirfor
> thing after that which was allegedly the same rating (3 ton) - very nice
> piece of kit indeed to have. (and the price was several hundred bucks more
> than the cheapo one that broke).

Re: Just to let everyone know
 

Hi Dave,
Rope? Even the cheapies are cable here. Maybe we're thinking of
something different.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm glad you haven't had a bad experience with one, Bill. My dad had a cheap
> one and the rope broke and cut his leg quite nastily. I bought him a tirfor
> thing after that which was allegedly the same rating (3 ton) - very nice
> piece of kit indeed to have. (and the price was several hundred bucks more
> than the cheapo one that broke).

Re: Just to let everyone know
 

Hi Dave,
Rope? Even the cheapies are cable here. Maybe we're thinking of
something different.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm glad you haven't had a bad experience with one, Bill. My dad had a cheap
> one and the rope broke and cut his leg quite nastily. I bought him a tirfor
> thing after that which was allegedly the same rating (3 ton) - very nice
> piece of kit indeed to have. (and the price was several hundred bucks more
> than the cheapo one that broke).